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Man Sentenced To Life For DWI
Click2Houston.com ^ | 10/29/2010 | Click2Houston.com

Posted on 10/29/2010 8:21:11 AM PDT by Buffalo Bob

CONROE, Texas — Montgomery County jurors sent a message that drunk driving in the county will not be tolerated.

George Harvey, 59, was sentenced to life in prison Wednesday after a jury thought eight convictions for driving while intoxicated was too many to let him back on the streets.

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Eight convictions for driving while intoxicated?

He should have been sentenced to life in prison at the 5th conviction. latest!

1 posted on 10/29/2010 8:21:12 AM PDT by Buffalo Bob
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To: Buffalo Bob

He should have moved to NM, he might have gotten probation.


2 posted on 10/29/2010 8:22:51 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim (Pablo lives jubtabulously!)
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To: Buffalo Bob
That's absurd and not justice. In no way is that sentence proportional to the crime...

Mike

3 posted on 10/29/2010 8:24:49 AM PDT by MichaelP (Put a Stake in the RATS hearts November 2nd)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I expect the sentence will be overturned on appeal. This does seem to be the only way to keep repeated drunk driving offenders off the roads, though, because they’ll just drive anyway, without license, insurance or registration.


4 posted on 10/29/2010 8:25:28 AM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: Buffalo Bob
He should have been sentenced to life in prison at the 5th conviction. latest!

Maybe [because] he was a DEMOCRAT congressman? Nah, if he was he would have got a raise, a new car and house.

5 posted on 10/29/2010 8:26:15 AM PDT by mikelets456
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To: Buffalo Bob

If this was a muslim country, we would just cut off his hands and feet so he can’t drive anymore. Optionally, I guess we could poke his eyes out so he can’t see to drive, but then he might get one of those Chinese cars that can drive itself, but I guess that would be okay.


6 posted on 10/29/2010 8:26:47 AM PDT by smokingfrog (Because you don't live near a bakery doesn't mean you have to go without cheesecake.)
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To: MichaelP
<> That's absurd and not justice. In no way is that sentence proportional to the crime...
Mike

In what way?? I mean death penalty is too stiff.

Have you ever known anyone killed by a drunk driver??

I agree if it was a first offense it would be too much, but by the 8th time, he got what he deserved.

7 posted on 10/29/2010 8:32:03 AM PDT by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: MichaelP
That's absurd and not justice. In no way is that sentence proportional to the crime...

I agree completely. Although DUI is stupid behavior and should not be tolerated, there's no way to justify a sentence usually applied to murderers if no harm was done to anyone, even it it was his 100th offense. This reeks of 'Minority Report' and should never happen in a free society.

8 posted on 10/29/2010 8:34:27 AM PDT by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: Vaquero
That is my opinion. You are entitled to yours!

Mike

9 posted on 10/29/2010 8:35:05 AM PDT by MichaelP (Put a Stake in the RATS hearts November 2nd)
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To: Buffalo Bob

I wonder how the judge would feel about the guy who racked up 20 DUIs in Minnesota?

http://jonathanturley.org/2009/12/29/minnesota-man-racks-up-20th-dui-offense/


10 posted on 10/29/2010 8:35:26 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: MichaelP

I agree with you. Life for a DWI is crazy. 8th or not..


11 posted on 10/29/2010 8:38:22 AM PDT by wardaddy (the redress over anything minority is a cancer in our country...stage 4)
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To: Buffalo Bob

He should have moved to Massachusetts where he would likely have been able to become a member of the legislature.


12 posted on 10/29/2010 8:41:12 AM PDT by MIchaelTArchangel (Obama makes me miss Jimmah Cahtah!)
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To: MichaelP

Sounds like a white guy - no minority would get that sentence.


13 posted on 10/29/2010 8:41:44 AM PDT by edcoil (No "D's" for me!)
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To: Buffalo Bob

More info at Houston Chronicle

On April 3, 2009, sometime around midnight, Harvey got behind the wheel of his pickup after spending the day drinking at a friend’s house on FM 1485, near Kings Road in New Caney. As he pulled out of the driveway with his headlights off, Wanda Medford, who also had been drinking, plowed into his pickup, according to police.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7267393.html


14 posted on 10/29/2010 8:45:14 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: -YYZ-

Yep. And when he kills somebody, we’ll all shrug and say, “Gee, somebody should have stopped him a long time ago”.


15 posted on 10/29/2010 8:45:44 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: MichaelP
"That's absurd and not justice. In no way is that sentence proportional to the crime..."

You are right, Mike. They should wait until he has killed someone, or better yet a whole family!

16 posted on 10/29/2010 8:46:20 AM PDT by johnandrhonda (have you hugged your banjo today?)
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To: Vaquero

There’s no way to argue it. Drunk driving is something people don’t want treated too harshly lest they get busted themselves.


17 posted on 10/29/2010 8:47:32 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: MichaelP
He's 59 years old.

They should have given him 20 years.

That would have been a completely just punishment for his recidivism, and it would have effectively been a life sentence anyway.

18 posted on 10/29/2010 8:47:32 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: edcoil

Actually more than 8 prior convictions but 8 were used as evidence in this trial including 2 prior felony DWI convictions.

19 posted on 10/29/2010 8:48:04 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Wolfie
There’s no way to argue it. Drunk driving is something people don’t want treated too harshly lest they get busted themselves.

America actually has pretty lenient drunk driving penalties, --even among many Western countries.

20 posted on 10/29/2010 8:51:23 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Buffalo Bob

If he had been in Travis county, he would have gotten probation.


21 posted on 10/29/2010 8:51:49 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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To: Drew68

That’s because the judiciary and legsilatures identify with the drunk driver.


22 posted on 10/29/2010 8:53:01 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Buffalo Bob

I would have given him 3 convictions.


23 posted on 10/29/2010 8:54:05 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: MichaelP
That's absurd and not justice. In no way is that sentence proportional to the crime...

Drunk drivers kill innocent people. It is no different than stepping out in the street with a loaded gun and firing at random. He should have been sentenced to 10 years for the second offense, 20 years for the 3rd and life for the fourth. My family is out on those streets and I would like them home safe at the end of teh day.

24 posted on 10/29/2010 8:54:58 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: Wolfie
That’s because the judiciary and legsilatures identify with the drunk driver.

I don't disagree. There's a lot of people who when they read of horrific crashes caused by drunk drivers think to themselves, "There but for the grace of God..."

25 posted on 10/29/2010 8:56:07 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: bassmaner
agree completely. Although DUI is stupid behavior and should not be tolerated, there's no way to justify a sentence usually applied to murderers if no harm was done to anyone, even it it was his 100th offense. This reeks of 'Minority Report' and should never happen in a free society.

Drunk drivers kill people. They are threatening the lives of everyone who is on the road with them. It's no diffent than if the closed their eyes and fired a gun at random.

26 posted on 10/29/2010 8:57:42 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: Wolfie

“There’s no way to argue it. Drunk driving is something people don’t want treated too harshly lest they get busted themselves.”

A first conviction with a marginal BAC is one thing, but repeated convictions with high BAC are another. Such people are a real, known danger to everyone else on the road - an accident waiting to happen.


27 posted on 10/29/2010 8:57:46 AM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: Vaquero

And that’s just the 8 times he got CAUGHT. It’s not as if the guy only did it 8 times, and unluckily was caught every time. He’s got to be a constant menace on the roads. Risking manslaughter every time.


28 posted on 10/29/2010 8:58:03 AM PDT by Huck (Antifederalist BRUTUS should be required reading.)
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To: wideawake
He's 59 years old. They should have given him 20 years. That would have been a completely just punishment for his recidivism, and it would have effectively been a life sentence anyway.

This man has repeatedly gone out an been a death threat to everyone on the road at the same time and you want to argue symbolism over substance. Drunk drivers kill innocent people.

29 posted on 10/29/2010 9:00:42 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: CMAC51
It is no different than stepping out in the street with a loaded gun and firing at random.

It is very different and a ridiculus anaology!

Mike

30 posted on 10/29/2010 9:02:33 AM PDT by MichaelP (Put a Stake in the RATS hearts November 2nd)
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To: MichaelP
That's absurd and not justice. In no way is that sentence proportional to the crime... Really? This guy has made it clear that he will drive drunk as long as he is living as a free man. That is a fact. How do you propose that he be kept off the roads? It cannot be any system that requires any degree of honor or trust from this man, because he has no honor and is not trustworthy. He is arrogant, and selfish and drunk. He does not value human life at all, and is willing to put the rest of humanity in danger by driving drunk repeatedly. So, what is your solution to keeping him off the road?
31 posted on 10/29/2010 9:14:42 AM PDT by passionfruit (When illegals become legal, even they won't do the work Americans won't do)
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To: CMAC51; MichaelP
I'm not arguing symbolism over substance.

I'm saying that we could call it "20 years" instead of "life" to make MichaelP happy - and the substance would still be the same: a dirtbag locked up in prison for life.

32 posted on 10/29/2010 9:18:03 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: MichaelP

It is a valid analogy because it involves blatant disregard for the lives of others.


33 posted on 10/29/2010 9:19:17 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: passionfruit
I'm sympathetic to the dangers. But, if we are to live in a free and just country, we have to accept a certain amount of uncertanty, and possible danger. We need to be cognizant of that. If we start locking people up because of "possible" dangers, where do we stop? It's part of the price we pay for a free and just society...

Mike

34 posted on 10/29/2010 9:19:48 AM PDT by MichaelP (Put a Stake in the RATS hearts November 2nd)
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To: bassmaner

In Minority Report they were convicted before committing a crime. DUI is a crime.

He is being sentenced for crimes already committed.


35 posted on 10/29/2010 9:21:12 AM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Buffalo Bob

So what about the millions of Americans who drive EQUALLY IMPAIRED while using their cellphone.


36 posted on 10/29/2010 9:21:41 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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It is very different and a ridiculus anaology!

Not at all.

A vehicle is an extremely dangerous weapon.

If you get hit in the face by a .44 slug or by the grill of a pickup going 50mph, you're just as dead.

37 posted on 10/29/2010 9:24:24 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: passionfruit

GPS ankle bracelet and court-ordered to only take public transportation? If he starts moving faster than running speed he’d better be able to show he was on public transportation, or it’s back to jail for another few years just for driving a car (whether drunk or not).


38 posted on 10/29/2010 9:35:26 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: wideawake
I'm not arguing symbolism over substance.

I'm saying that we could call it "20 years" instead of "life" to make MichaelP happy - and the substance would still be the same: a dirtbag locked up in prison for life.

Did you read your response before posting? You say the substance would be unchanged a dirtbag locked up for life but it would be better to say "20 years" rather than "life". That is exactly the definition of arguing symbolism over substance.

39 posted on 10/29/2010 9:40:56 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: MichaelP

methinks thou dost protest too much

cheers.


40 posted on 10/29/2010 9:47:05 AM PDT by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: -YYZ-

No argument here. But when everyone from the Judge to the Prosecutor looks at the defendant’s table and sees someone very much like themselves, it ain’t gonna happen.


41 posted on 10/29/2010 9:49:53 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: MichaelP
>>It is no different than stepping out in the street with a loaded gun and firing at random.<<

It is very different and a ridiculus anaology!

There is no diffence, in both cases the potential murderer has gone out on the street with a deadly weapon and threatened people at random. If you are on the street at that time your life is at serious risk.

What part of Drunk Drivers Kill Innoncent Victims do you not understand or are foolish enough to attempt to argue? Drunk drivers Kill innocent victims. I know it. You should know it. A repeat drunk driver knows it. Yet they still sit down behind the wheel and by choice proceed to put innocent peoples lives at risk. They deserve to be put away where they can't threaten people anymore.

42 posted on 10/29/2010 9:50:10 AM PDT by CMAC51
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To: EyeGuy
So what about the millions of Americans who drive EQUALLY IMPAIRED while using their cellphone

cellphones nothing...once the call is dialed it should not interfere with most people's attention span...

.....what REALLY is dangerous is those who Drive and Text....deadly.

43 posted on 10/29/2010 9:50:34 AM PDT by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: thackney

That wig and those glasses are a felony by themselves...


44 posted on 10/29/2010 9:51:21 AM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: MichaelP

So we have to wait for him to kill someone, eh?


45 posted on 10/29/2010 9:52:02 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: Vaquero

“...once the call is dialed it should not interfere with most people’s attention span...”

####

My real world experience is in direct conflict with that assumption.

Nearly every day.

YMMV.


46 posted on 10/29/2010 9:53:03 AM PDT by EyeGuy
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To: Buffalo Bob

It is excessive, when vehicular manslaughter, related to a DUI, carries less than a ten year sentence.


47 posted on 10/29/2010 9:53:39 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: CMAC51
Did you read your response before posting?

Indeed I did. You didn't read it after I posted it.

Here's a recap:

(1) "Substance" would refer to the dirtbag in question dying in prison.

(2) "Symbolism" would refer to the name you assign to the sentence that produces the substantive result - you could call it "20 years" you could call it "life", you could call it "Fred" if it makes people happy.

My posts so far have had the same message: you can call it what you like, as long as he dies in prison.

So, when I say that you can use any name you want as long as he's locked up for life, I am indeed putting the substance over the symbolism.

48 posted on 10/29/2010 9:56:13 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: MichaelP

He can’t have a license. He’s probably lost his car at least once. He’s not going to stop. What do you suggest? Maybe the cops should beat the sh*t out him every time they catch him driving? Can we execute him after he’s killed somebody?


49 posted on 10/29/2010 9:57:54 AM PDT by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: EyeGuy
So what about the millions of Americans who drive EQUALLY IMPAIRED while using their cellphone.

You're a damn fool if you believe they are the same level of impairment.

Airline pilots are not permitted to be intoxicated but it is okay for them to converse with controllers while flying a plane full of people. Could it be because the level of impairment is different or should we allow them to be intoxicated? Think about it.
50 posted on 10/29/2010 10:03:09 AM PDT by TSgt (Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho - 44th and current President of the United States)
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