Skip to comments.Kirk Gets Mixed Support from Base
Posted on 10/30/2010 9:11:01 PM PDT by Maelstorm
CHICAGO Illinois U.S. Senate candidate Mark Kirk is just one of several Republicans running in down-to-the-wire races, but unlike his compatriots is enjoying mixed support from his party's fundraising arms.
The North Shore congressman has pulled into a narrow lead over Democratic Treasurer Alexi Giannoulias in the campaign's final week, according to the latest poll from the Chicago Tribune. But Kirk's three point lead falls within the poll's margin of error.
Kirk has been left out in many fundraising conservative circles.
The Senate Conservatives Fund has raised more than $5.4 million for candidates in the nation's most competitive senate races, with the exception of Illinois.
Matt Hoskins, a spokesman for the fund, would not comment on the matter. But the organization's website lists requirements of candidates, some of which the pro-choice, pro-gun control Kirk does not meet.
(Excerpt) Read more at illinois.statehousenewsonline.com ...
A rising tide for the GOP is inevitably going to carry some junk with it. Some of that’s going to get washed back out to sea two years from now.
“A rising tide for the GOP is inevitably going to carry some junk with it. Some of thats going to get washed back out to sea two years from now.”
Unless, of course, people justify re-voting in some of the flotsam and jetsam of the 2010 election. In which case, the flotsam and jetsam stay in office.
“We’ve got “pro-life” friends who are strong Christians and they’ve got two or three Kirk signs in their yard. We just don’t get it.”
Send them the link to the On the Issues page for Mark Kirk, or mention his pro-choice stance to them casually in conversation; if they have not yet voted, they may cast their vote for Mike Labno (hopefully not for Giannoulias or Jones!)
Good to see the Shumer For Senate Majority Leader folks chiming in.
Senators are elected for six year terms. Kirk will be able to screw over conservatives for many years, perhaps even after Obama's presidency is a distant memory.
Good to see the Bring Back Jim Jeffords Republicans chime in.
I don’t like it either, but look - Kirk is pretty decent on fiscal issues and for me at least, that trumps this other stuff. Would I prefer an actual Conservative? You bet. But I’ll take Kirk over Alexi anyday, because Alexi would not even blink before voting for every bit of the crap that Reid has put forward. Besides, while he seems to have trouble sticking with the truth about it, I respect Kirks military service a lot more than Alexi’s cushy career at the family candy-store aka Broadway Bank.
C’mon, it’s a no-brainer. And if Kirk tries more crap like he did on cap-and-trade, he’s damn sure going to have opposition next time. A Republican in an Illinois Senate seat is a far cry from a job for life.
Do you happen to know of an address where I could get a Labno sign for our yard? We have literally thousands of people go by our house every day as we are on a major 4-lane highway.
But you’ve already established that Kirk WILL get away with the unconstitutional nonsense that he’s done in his past term. You’re rewarding him with your vote.
Case in point:
“And if Kirk tries more crap like he did on cap-and-trade, hes damn sure going to have opposition next time.”
Of course he’s going to continue his past efforts, he will be rewarded for it, after all. How many more monstrosities like cap and trade must he help to pass before you cry “enough”? Where do you draw the line?
Sooner or later, conservatives must draw the line and tolerate NO CINOs in either the primary or general elections.
We are already far too close to the edge of the precipice to justify knowingly putting someone in the driver’s seat who is inclined to hit the gas pedal and not the brakes.
Like I said, you all can sit around and congratulate yourselves on your ideological purity while Shumer is running the Senate.
Yet Bill Brady is performing better in the race for Governor, he is conservative, and he is being supported by those groups. Who has the baggage?
And no, it isn't a matter of not being conservative enough. He isn't a conservative at all.
Kirk is going to win but I wouldn't shed a tear if he lost while Brady won. It'd be the ultimate indictment of the establishment.
Also true. Keep challenging RINOs in the primaries.
When Kirk provides the key "crossover" GOP support to get the RATs socialist agenda passed, we'll know what "conservatives" to thank.
His support of Cap and Tax negates any claim to this.
BTW, Schumer can’t become “Senate Majority Leader” unless Harry Reid is no longer in the post. Maybe you could go on the Nevada threads and trash all the Sharon Angle voters as “Senator Majority Leader Schumer freepers” because they also refuse to vote for a socialist scumbag.
“Fiscal Conservative” Mark Kirk’s REAL record:
- Kirk voted with Taxpayers for Common Sense 33% of the time
- Kirk voted with The Club for Growth 19% of the time (9 / 48 votes)
- Kirk voted with Citizens for Tax Justice 17% of the time
- Kirk voted NO to H.J. Res. 3-Releasing Funds for Economic Stabilization Act (this act was sponsored by Republicans after the first 300 billion dollars went unaccounted for to block the remaining funds from being released without oversight)
- Kirk voted YES on Cap-n-Trade, the BIGGEST tax increase in U.S. history ( the ONLY Republican member of the Illinois congressional delegation that voted yes!) (HR 2454)
- Kirk voted YES on Democrat Charlie Rangels 90 percent bonus tax (H.R. 1586)
- Kirk voted YES on Overseas Military Facilities Abortion funding (H.R.708)
- Kirk voted YES on H.R.2 - the Democrat’s SCHIP Program-basically an expansion of welfare (includes $1 tax on cigarettes to “fund” the program)
- Kirk voted YES on H.R. 3997-First Economic Bailout Package (this is the one that failed the first time through), then voted YES on HR-1424:Second Economic Bailout Package (this one was bigger than the first!)
- Kirk SUPPORTED HR 2, Nancy Pelosi’s minimum wage hike that exempted businesses in her own district (Kirk excuse is that he didn’t read the bill)
- Mark Kirk voted to approve nearly $200 million for the Air Force to purchase three luxury aircraft for ferrying top government office and Members of Congress.
- Mark Kirk claims that he opposes all congressional earmarks, yet sponsored
$74,766,000 worth of earmarks from 2008-2010, including $4,725,000 worth of SOLE earmarks requests for himself. See all of “fiscal conservative” Mark Kirk’s earmarks here: http://www.legistorm.com/earmarks/details/member/320/Rep_Mark_Kirk/page/1/sort/amount/type/desc.html
- Mark Kirk was ONE of only two Republicans NOT to co-sponsor auditing the Federal Reserve.
- Mark Kirk voted to approve a $140,000 earmark for ACORN’s New York office.
- Mark Kirk OPPOSED Republican Senator Jim Bunning’s (R-KY) stand to use existing Stimlus funds for the extension of unemployment benefits, and supported the Democrat legislation
to pay for it using a new $10 billion expansion to budget deficit.
Gotta love the Kirk cheerleaders still insisting he’s a “fiscal conservative” after all that. Sure, and Hannibal Lecter is a strict vegetarian.
Vote for “fiscal conservative” Mark Kirk, he’ll do for Illinois what “fiscal conservative” Ahnuld Schwarzkennedy did for California.
Because McConnell is a dream come true? I have to tell you these past few years I haven’t sat around dreaming of the good ‘ol days when Frist and Mitch ran the show. The only reason Republicans stand to win is because there is some hope the new people are going to put obstacles in the path of BOTH establishments in D.C.
This is not 2004. Raising the specter of Daschle, or Reid, or Chuck no longer has any effect on conservative voters other then to make them even angrier at the “R” first crowd, put their backs up even more and re-consider if we’re right to be taking a leap in faith that new blood can produce a different result. Just be damn thankful people are voting this year for your precious GOP. The alternative was sit at home in protest or 3rd party..and both options are still on the table if the GOP screws us one last time.
If you’re thinking I’m just blowing hot air about how little your recriminations work these days, take a look at Delaware or the NY congressional race last year. Not a Single. Damn. Regret. that a Democrat was or will preside in the seat instead of the liberal establishment Republican.
Yep, he'll be the go-to person for the Dems and media to highlight the need for Republicans to "compromise" and "work with our President." Puke
And when repeal of Obamacare fails in the Senate because of Leader Shumer I’ll be sure you get the appropriate credit as well.
Good night to you.
Oh well, at least hes not a gay RINO.
“A rising tide for the GOP is inevitably going to carry some junk with it. Some of thats going to get washed back out to sea two years from now.”
This Rino gets six years if he wins.
That scumbag Kirk must lose.
Better to be knifed in the face by an enemy than stabbed in the back by a “friend”.
He’s a Jeffords/Specter/Chafee waiting to happen.
Don’t forget Castle. That’s the type of Republican Kirk is.
I'll be sure to give you full credit for the damage he does. Like the Arnoldbots hiding in shame 7 years after they insisted we had to elect that socialist to "stop Democrats" in California.
One day you'll wake up.
And if the leftist Democrat’s elected, how long will he have to screw over the voters?
When will you draw the line? When will enough be enough for you?
And the leftist Democrat gets...?
Another poster said these Rino’s can be voted out in two years. I was clarifying.
But this clown has nearly the same voting record as my leftist Democrat congresswoman.
I will not vote for Kirk. I will vote for the conservative Libertarian.
The problem with IL politics is the Repubs are dominated by the DuPage RINOs. That's why we have Kirk instead of a real conservative. The DuPage RINOs hate conservatives more than corrupt socialist/Marxist ‘rats.
In IL politics (state level) this Rat-RINO alliance is called “The Combine”. Our last RINO governor, Ryan, utterly destroyed the Republican Party in IL. He's responsible for the election of now impeached and removed Governor Blagojevich. I really hope that Blago gets major federal prison time and he goes to room with Ryan as his cellmate. The “haircut” and Ryan deserve each other.
Kirk will have far more than six years to wreak havok on the GOP, if he gets in the Washington establishment will hold him up as a model Republican and protect him. He'll almost certainly be renominated in 2016 because the state and national party will support him no matter how badly he votes, he'll have zillions of dollars as a powerful sitting Senator, and the aforementioned liberal media in the tank for him. Most likely he'd become another Arlen Specter and stick around for decades to score wins for the Democrats and continually discredit and undermine "his" own party, while constantly trying to pull the GOP to the left in caucus meetings.
Alexi is expected to vote with Obama by default and has been so damaged by scandals that most Democrats won't even touch him with a 10 foot pole. Kirk is beloved by the national media and in a position to cause far more damage in that seat. Open your eyes.
Yeah, by all means, convince them to flush their vote.
And how long and how badly will Alexi get to screw us over?
Hell yeah, Schumer as Majority Leader is better than a bare Republican majority with people like Kirk humiliating the GOP by casting the deciding vote with the Democrats every time.
Why let the media turn around and blame the majority party Republicans, giving the Democrats cover since they are the “minority” even though Kirk will hand them effective control?
Six years and very badly, same as Kirk would get to screw us over.
I disagree, actually. Kirk would screw us over even worse. They will support the same socialist agenda, but Alexi's endorsement won't sway any RINOs or "moderate" Democrats to his side. The Democrats will get very little mileage out of Alexi's support, since he's so tainted by corruption. He'll be a weak freshman Senator who commands little respect because he's just an Obama lackey.
Kirk will be much more successful in screwing us over and enacting Obama's agenda. He has long carved out a path for himself as a "leader" of the RINOs and will do so to an even greater extent in the Senate. No longer will the Maine twins have to fight a lonely battle promoting the Dems agenda. Kirk will provide fresh young blood to the RINO cause and become the media's favorite voice of a "reasonable" Republican in the Senate. He'll make all the rounds of the nightly news shows in the next six years to promote the socialist agenda and bad mouth the Republicans positions as "too extreme". The media promote him as a decorated military vet and "conservative" Republican from Obama's home state. They'll love every minute of it.
BillyBoy has got a pathological dislike of Mark Kirk that goes way beyond ideology.
I gotta wonder if Mark Kirk beat BillyBoy in a fight when they were younger or whether Mark Kirk stole BillyBoy’s girlfriend away.
Then wait a couple years and take on Durbin. He’ll be so much easier to beat. /sarc
Well that is just great. Chuck Shumer on Earth or the Devil in Death.....I can’t believe you so called Christians want people to sell their soul for the short term. VERY SAD. Do you not know that it is a sin to support abortion lovers????? You are better than that.
BUMP what you said.
I agree 100%.
Additionally, a Kirk win would send out a message to other liberal Republicans that, “It’s okay to be a liberal Republican,” and the lame old excuse, “Only a liberal Republican can win in __________” would get new life. Yeah, this scumbag Kirk MUST lose. It WOULD be preferable for the rat to win in this case.
Kirk is on his own as far as my vote is concerned. I cannot vote for someone who thinks sucking brains out of babies is OK. If I did, it would be a sin to me. I mean that quite literally. We can’t keep rewarding Illinois’ “weasely wepublican” machine and then act all surprised when nothing improves for decades at a time.
Sometimes you have no choice. Besides, your vote is yours to flush. It’s part of that freedom thingy, or so I’m told. I’m not voting for Kirk because I can’t vote against all those babies he is helping to kill. It’s not my fault so many Illinois Republicans are so in bed with “progressivism.”
It’s a question of short term expediency versus long term learning. Electoral systems are a feedback mechanism critical to the survival of the Republic. We use them to reward wise and good leaders and to punish foolish and evil leaders. When the feedback becomes distorted through an exaggerated sense of urgency, when panic distorts our judgment and we start rewarding the evil and punishing the good, the feedback mechanism is corrupted and we end up lying to the system, which in turn creates these bizarre result we are now seeing, where an insular political class learns it can become totally independent of the feedback as long as it can manipulate our fears.
Therefore, the truly expedient thing to do is start telling the truth to the system, to provide truthful feedback that accurately represents the collective wisdom of the people, not the least of which is our commitment of conscience to the principles of our founding, namely, that life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness really are inalienable, and cannot be surrendered under any circumstances to the whims of kings and other tyrants.
A vote for Kirk, if cast by someone who alleges to be prolife, is a lie told to the Republic, and a denial of the foundational principles from which all other freedoms flow. If we don’t start voting the truth, we have no reason to expect the Republic to ever “learn” the truth, that no freedom is safe when life is cheap.
Well said. 8 years ago I would have agreed with you completely and p***** my vote away on this Labno person. These, however, are fairly extraordinary circumstances.
So Kirk has already gotten 2 votes from our household in order to try to provide the Republicans with a solid majority in the Senate.
This time, however, will be the last time I make such a decision. If the Pubs blow it this time, I’m done with them for good.
I do thank you for a well reasoned and polite response.
If you vote for Labno, it’s more likely that Alexi will win. If Alexi wins, that’s more power to the rats. More power to the rats means more unborn die.
It’s the same reason people are dropping out of the NRA. The NRA is supporting a total of some 85 rats because they have good voting records when it comes to guns. But supporting them, if they win, gives more power to the rat platform of gun-grabbing. By the way, if all the House candidates that the NRA are supporting were to win, we will not take back the House.
Letting a rat win over the abortion issue is no different. When you vote for a rat or throw your vote away on someone who can’t win, you enhance the power and control of the very platform you least want to embrace.
We went through this in ‘06 and ‘08. Wasn’t getting zero, Pelosi and Reid enough of a lesson for you? Isn’t 17% unemployment high enough for you? How about the 3 trillion in debt? Want more? Yeah? Really? Then, yeah, go throw your vote away on Labno so Giannoulias wins. That’ll really save a lot unborn babies. /sarc
Enough with the calculus already. I get that part. But being true to my conscience is more important to me, and really, if you thought about it, to you too. The Apostle Paul taught we should never do evil in order to do good. The ends do not justify the means. As long as America is free, I will not ever use my vote for anyone who is OK with killing babies and, by extension, is OK with destroying the foundations of the Republic. Youre free to engage in short-term triangulation if it suits you, but in the case of Kirk I cant go there without sinning against God. I cant help it if the dems outnumber me in any given election cycle; theyre responsible for their vote and Im responsible for mine. But if the Republicans Party of Illinois is serious about wanting my vote, theyll have to do a better job fielding candidates that do not put me at odds with the Almighty.