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FReeper Book Club: The Debate over the Constitution, Federalist #58
A Publius/Billthedrill Essay | 1 November 2010 | Publius & Billthedrill

Posted on 11/01/2010 7:54:17 AM PDT by Publius

Madison Addresses the Census and Enlarging the House

In his final essay on the topic, Madison takes up three charges against the makeup of the House and addresses them.

Federalist #58

The House of Representatives (Part 7 of 7)

James Madison, 20 February 1788

1 To the People of the State of New York:

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2 The remaining charge against the House of Representatives, which I am to examine, is grounded on a supposition that the number of members will not be augmented from time to time as the progress of population may demand.

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3 It has been admitted that this objection, if well supported, would have great weight.

4 The following observations will show that, like most other objections against the Constitution, it can only proceed from a partial view of the subject or from a jealousy which discolors and disfigures every object which is beheld.

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5 Those who urge the objection seem not to have recollected that the federal Constitution will not suffer by a comparison with the state constitutions in the security provided for a gradual augmentation of the number of representatives.

6 The number which is to prevail in the first instance is declared to be temporary.

7 Its duration is limited to the short term of three years.

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8 Within every successive term of ten years a census of inhabitants is to be repeated.

9 The unequivocal objects of these regulations are: first, to readjust from time to time the apportionment of representatives to the number of inhabitants under the single exception that each state shall have one representative at least; secondly, to augment the number of representatives at the same periods under the sole limitation that the whole number shall not exceed one for every 30,000 inhabitants.

10 If we review the constitutions of the several states, we shall find that some of them contain no determinate regulations on this subject, that others correspond pretty much on this point with the federal Constitution, and that the most effectual security in any of them is resolvable into a mere directory provision.

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11 As far as experience has taken place on this subject, a gradual increase of representatives under the state constitutions has at least kept pace with that of the constituents, and it appears that the former have been as ready to concur in such measures as the latter have been to call for them.

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12 There is a peculiarity in the federal Constitution which insures a watchful attention in a majority both of the people and of their representatives to a constitutional augmentation of the latter.

13 The peculiarity lies in this: that one branch of the Legislature is a representation of citizens, the other of the states: in the former, consequently, the larger states will have most weight; in the latter, the advantage will be in favor of the smaller states.

14 From this circumstance it may with certainty be inferred that the larger states will be strenuous advocates for increasing the number and weight of that part of the Legislature in which their influence predominates.

15 And it so happens that four only of the largest will have a majority of the whole votes in the House of Representatives.

16 Should the representatives or people, therefore, of the smaller states oppose at any time a reasonable addition of members, a coalition of a very few states will be sufficient to overrule the opposition, a coalition which, notwithstanding the [rivalry] and local prejudices which might prevent it on ordinary occasions, would not fail to take place when not merely prompted by common interest, but justified by equity and the principles of the Constitution.

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17 It may be alleged perhaps, that the Senate would be prompted by like motives to an adverse coalition, and as their concurrence would be indispensable, the just and constitutional views of the other branch might be defeated.

18 This is the difficulty which has probably created the most serious apprehensions in the jealous friends of a numerous representation.

19 Fortunately it is among the difficulties which, existing only in appearance, vanish on a close and accurate inspection.

20 The following reflections will, if I mistake not, be admitted to be conclusive and satisfactory on this point.

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21 Notwithstanding the equal authority which will subsist between the two Houses on all legislative subjects, except the originating of money bills, it cannot be doubted that the House, composed of the greater number of members, when supported by the more powerful states and speaking the known and determined sense of a majority of the people, will have no small advantage in a question depending on the comparative firmness of the two Houses.

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22 This advantage must be increased by the consciousness, felt by the same side of being supported in its demands by right, by reason, and by the Constitution, and the consciousness on the opposite side of contending against the force of all these solemn considerations.

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23 It is farther to be considered that in the gradation between the smallest and largest states, there are several which, though most likely in general to arrange themselves among the former, are too little removed in extent and population from the latter to second an opposition to their just and legitimate pretensions.

24 Hence it is by no means certain that a majority of votes, even in the Senate, would be unfriendly to proper augmentations in the number of representatives.

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25 It will not be looking too far to add that the senators from all the new states may be gained over to the just views of the House of Representatives by an expedient too obvious to be overlooked.

26 As these states will, for a great length of time, advance in population with peculiar rapidity, they will be interested in frequent reapportionments of the representatives to the number of inhabitants.

27 The large states, therefore, who will prevail in the House of Representatives, will have nothing to do but to make reapportionments and augmentations mutually conditions of each other, and the senators from all the most growing states will be bound to contend for the latter by the interest which their states will feel in the former.

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28 These considerations seem to afford ample security on this subject and ought alone to satisfy all the doubts and fears which have been indulged with regard to it.

29 Admitting, however, that they should all be insufficient to subdue the unjust policy of the smaller states or their predominant influence in the councils of the Senate, a constitutional and infallible resource still remains with the larger states by which they will be able at all times to accomplish their just purposes.

30 The House of Representatives cannot only refuse, but they alone can propose, the supplies requisite for the support of government.

31 They, in a word, hold the purse, that powerful instrument by which we behold in the history of the British Constitution an infant and humble representation of the people gradually enlarging the sphere of its activity and importance, and finally reducing, as far as it seems to have wished, all the overgrown prerogatives of the other branches of the government.

32 This power over the purse may in fact be regarded as the most complete and effectual weapon with which any constitution can arm the immediate representatives of the people for obtaining a redress of every grievance and for carrying into effect every just and salutary measure.

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33 But will not the House of Representatives be as much interested as the Senate in maintaining the government in its proper functions, and will they not therefore be unwilling to stake its existence or its reputation on the pliancy of the Senate?

34 Or if such a trial of firmness between the two branches were hazarded, would not the one be as likely first to yield as the other?

35 These questions will create no difficulty with those who reflect that in all cases the smaller the number and the more permanent and conspicuous the station of men in power, the stronger must be the interest which they will individually feel in whatever concerns the government.

36 Those who represent the dignity of their country in the eyes of other nations will be particularly sensible to every prospect of public danger or of dishonorable stagnation in public affairs.

37 To those causes we are to ascribe the continual triumph of the British House of Commons over the other branches of the government whenever the engine of a money bill has been employed.

38 An absolute inflexibility on the side of the latter, although it could not have failed to involve every department of the state in the general confusion, has neither been apprehended nor experienced.

39 The utmost degree of firmness that can be displayed by the federal Senate or President will not be more than equal to a resistance in which they will be supported by constitutional and patriotic principles.

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40 In this review of the constitution of the House of Representatives, I have passed over the circumstances of economy which, in the present state of affairs, might have had some effect in lessening the temporary number of representatives, and a disregard of which would probably have been as rich a theme of declamation against the Constitution as has been shown by the smallness of the number proposed.

41 I omit also any remarks on the difficulty which might be found, under present circumstances, in engaging in the federal service a large number of such characters as the people will probably elect.

42 One observation, however, I must be permitted to add on this subject as claiming in my judgment a very serious attention.

43 It is that in all legislative assemblies, the greater the number composing them may be, the fewer will be the men who will in fact direct their proceedings.

44 In the first place, the more numerous an assembly may be of whatever characters composed, the greater is known to be the ascendency of passion over reason.

45 In the next place, the larger the number, the greater will be the proportion of members of limited information and of weak capacities.

46 Now it is precisely on characters of this description that the eloquence and address of the few are known to act with all their force.

47 In the ancient republics where the whole body of the people assembled in person, a single orator or an artful statesman was generally seen to rule with as complete a sway as if a scepter had been placed in his single hand.

48 On the same principle, the more multitudinous a representative assembly may be rendered, the more it will partake of the infirmities incident to collective meetings of the people.

49 Ignorance will be the dupe of cunning, and passion the slave of sophistry and declamation.

50 The people can never err more than in supposing that by multiplying their representatives beyond a certain limit, they strengthen the barrier against the government of a few.

51 Experience will forever admonish them that, on the contrary, after securing a sufficient number for the purposes of safety, of local information and of diffusive sympathy with the whole society, they will counteract their own views by every addition to their representatives.

52 The countenance of the government may become more democratic, but the soul that animates it will be more oligarchic.

53 The machine will be enlarged, but the fewer, and often the more secret, will be the springs by which its motions are directed.

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54 As connected with the objection against the number of representatives may properly be here noticed that which has been suggested against the number made competent for legislative business.

55 It has been said that more than a majority ought to have been required for a quorum, and in particular cases, if not in all, more than a majority of a quorum for a decision.

56 That some advantages might have resulted from such a precaution cannot be denied.

57 It might have been an additional shield to some particular interests and another obstacle generally to hasty and partial measures.

58 But these considerations are outweighed by the inconveniences in the opposite scale.

59 In all cases where justice or the general good might require new laws to be passed or active measures to be pursued, the fundamental principle of free government would be reversed.

60 It would be no longer the majority that would rule; the power would be transferred to the minority.

61 Were the defensive privilege limited to particular cases, an interested minority might take advantage of it to screen themselves from equitable sacrifices to the general weal, or in particular emergencies to extort unreasonable indulgences.

62 Lastly, it would facilitate and foster the baneful practice of secessions, a practice which has shown itself even in states where a majority only is required, a practice subversive of all the principles of order and regular government, a practice which leads more directly to public convulsions and the ruin of popular governments than any other which has yet been displayed among us.

Madison’s Critique

With the principal topic of this, the last of Madison’s series on the House of Representatives, the author deals rather abruptly, justifiably so from the modern perspective. In fact, the dark prediction that the membership of the House would for one reason or another not be adjusted as a result of the first of a continuing series of census activities never took concrete form. The census was held after “the short term of three years” (5), and the membership of the House did rise steadily with the expansion of the country in terms of territory and population.

The value of this particular essay lies not in the argument, but in the representation of how both nation and government would evolve in the view of one of their principal architects. Madison has demonstrated before that his is a clear and futuristic vision, and if in certain particulars the reality did not match the vision, it is not altogether difficult to point out the departures in terms of political thought that sent it in another direction.

Madison first reassures the reader that the increase of House membership is not only planned specifically within Article I, Section 2, but has a precedent in the performance of the various state governments faced with the same growth (10,11). Then rather suddenly he explains that the Connecticut Compromise is more than a simple ploy to get both large states and small to ratify the Constitution. It is, in addition, a major structural feature that promises to provide a continuing dynamic tension between the states as the nation and the government grow.

12 There is a peculiarity in the federal Constitution which...

13 ...lies in this: that one branch of the Legislature is a representation of citizens, the other of the states: in the former, consequently, the larger states will have most weight; in the latter, the advantage will be in favor of the smaller states.

In fact, a coalition of no more than four of the most populous states will ensure that the House is increased as planned, out of pure self-interest (15). The smaller states will be unable to stop that increase – in the House. Rather than diminishing to near irrelevance as it did, to Madison this split offered a potential for a rivalry between Senate and House that would mirror the contending interests of the small and large states respectively. Madison sees this as a real possibility and has guarded against the tyranny of a minority by ensuring that the power of the purse is strictly in the hands of the House (29), in other words, most likely to be used in favor of the increase of the House membership and in the interest of the majority of the national population.

It is a power at work within the British House of Commons (31), and it is intended to subject the federal government to review within that arena most responsive, at least in theory, to the direct preferences of the people. It was with something like that in mind that in 1913 Congress came to upset Madison’s model by altering the system to make the Senate as well as the House directly electable. That, however, entailed a certain diminishment of the powers of the state governments when they no longer held the responsibility of nomination of the senators. Whether that action, codified in the 17th Amendment, has actually made the Senate more responsive to the citizens remains a topic of controversy, but that it disempowered the state legislatures in the attempt seems impossible to deny.

But Madison sees a Senate and House that display a considerably more adversarial relationship than actually developed, with the President lining up with the Senate to rival the power of the only directly elected political body in the country. The latter, says Madison, is bound to prevail (39). So he, and the country under the Constitution, are committed to growth of the House. Why not, then, a House with some 10,000 members whose size reflects the modern population? Why place a ceiling on its size at all? There are two reasons, states Madison.

43 It is that in all legislative assemblies, the greater the number composing them may be, the fewer will be the men who will in fact direct their proceedings.

This observation was made through the light of experience of the state legislatures as well as exemplified in ancient history.

47 In the ancient republics where the whole body of the people assembled in person, a single orator or an artful statesman was generally seen to rule with as complete a sway as if a scepter had been placed in his single hand.

Pericles was the usual example, whose eloquence gave Athens an effective monarch through a nominal democracy.

The second reason is a consequence of the first, namely that a more numerous assembly will be more likely to lead to the ascendance of passion over reason (44) through the inclusion of members likely to be of lesser wisdom than that of the membership of a smaller body (45). In a single unflattering summation Madison describes modern politics.

49 Ignorance will be the dupe of cunning, and passion the slave of sophistry and declamation.

52 The countenance of the government may become more democratic, but the soul that animates it will be more oligarchic.

53 The machine will be enlarged, but the fewer, and often the more secret, will be the springs by which its motions are directed.

It is a grim prediction that has become an all too accurate description, not only with respect to the inevitable growth of the House, but with respect to the growth of the federal government as well. Madison closes with an argument against the proposed requirement of what is now termed a super-majority within Congress. It has its advantages, he admits (56, 57) but carries with it the ability of a much smaller proportion of each to hold the majority back from pursuing the “general good” (59). It does something else that leads Madison to express his views on a topic that is largely yet unadressed by the controversies surrounding the ratification of the Constitution. It is his attitude toward secession.

62 Lastly, it would facilitate and foster the baneful practice of secessions, a practice which has shown itself even in states where a majority only is required, a practice subversive of all the principles of order and regular government, a practice which leads more directly to public convulsions and the ruin of popular governments than any other which has yet been displayed among us.

Three quarters of a century later this description would haunt the nation.

Discussion Topic

Madison points out that the House is the more powerful body because of the requirement that all money bills originate there. He never anticipated that the President and his staff would write legislation and have sympathetic congressmen introduce them to satisfy the constitutional requirement. Is there a reasonable solution to this problem of executive supremacy?


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1 posted on 11/01/2010 7:54:20 AM PDT by Publius
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To: 14themunny; 21stCenturion; 300magnum; A Strict Constructionist; abigail2; AdvisorB; Aggie Mama; ...
Ping! The thread has been posted.

Earlier threads:

FReeper Book Club: The Debate over the Constitution
5 Oct 1787, Centinel #1
6 Oct 1787, James Wilson’s Speech at the State House
8 Oct 1787, Federal Farmer #1
9 Oct 1787, Federal Farmer #2
18 Oct 1787, Brutus #1
22 Oct 1787, John DeWitt #1
27 Oct 1787, John DeWitt #2
27 Oct 1787, Federalist #1
31 Oct 1787, Federalist #2
3 Nov 1787, Federalist #3
5 Nov 1787, John DeWitt #3
7 Nov 1787, Federalist #4
10 Nov 1787, Federalist #5
14 Nov 1787, Federalist #6
15 Nov 1787, Federalist #7
20 Nov 1787, Federalist #8
21 Nov 1787, Federalist #9
23 Nov 1787, Federalist #10
24 Nov 1787, Federalist #11
27 Nov 1787, Federalist #12
27 Nov 1787, Cato #5
28 Nov 1787, Federalist #13
29 Nov 1787, Brutus #4
30 Nov 1787, Federalist #14
1 Dec 1787, Federalist #15
4 Dec 1787, Federalist #16
5 Dec 1787, Federalist #17
7 Dec 1787, Federalist #18
8 Dec 1787, Federalist #19
11 Dec 1787, Federalist #20
12 Dec 1787, Federalist #21
14 Dec 1787, Federalist #22
18 Dec 1787, Federalist #23
18 Dec 1787, Address of the Pennsylvania Minority
19 Dec 1787, Federalist #24
21 Dec 1787, Federalist #25
22 Dec 1787, Federalist #26
25 Dec 1787, Federalist #27
26 Dec 1787, Federalist #28
27 Dec 1787, Brutus #6
28 Dec 1787, Federalist #30
1 Jan 1788, Federalist #31
3 Jan 1788, Federalist #32
3 Jan 1788, Federalist #33
3 Jan 1788, Cato #7
4 Jan 1788, Federalist #34
5 Jan 1788, Federalist #35
8 Jan 1788, Federalist #36
10 Jan 1788, Federalist #29
11 Jan 1788, Federalist #37
15 Jan 1788, Federalist #38
16 Jan 1788, Federalist #39
18 Jan 1788, Federalist #40
19 Jan 1788, Federalist #41
22 Jan 1788, Federalist #42
23 Jan 1788, Federalist #43
24 Jan 1788, Brutus #10
25 Jan 1788, Federalist #44
26 Jan 1788, Federalist #45
29 Jan 1788, Federalist #46
31 Jan 1788, Brutus #11
1 Feb 1788, Federalist #47
1 Feb 1788, Federalist #48
5 Feb 1788, Federalist #49
5 Feb 1788, Federalist #50
7 Feb 1788, Brutus #12, Part 1
8 Feb 1788, Federalist #51
8 Feb 1788, Federalist #52
12 Feb 1788, Federalist #53
12 Feb 1788, Federalist #54
14 Feb 1788, Brutus #12, Part 2
15 Feb 1788, Federalist #55
19 Feb 1788, Federalist #56
19 Feb 1788, Federalist #57

2 posted on 11/01/2010 7:56:05 AM PDT by Publius (The government only knows how to turn gold into lead.)
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To: Publius

This is a GREAT idea, one which you’ve apparently been doing for some time. Would you add me to the ping list?


3 posted on 11/01/2010 8:07:01 AM PDT by RetroSexual
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To: Publius

All is not lost as long as we have the vote AND an honest tally.


4 posted on 11/01/2010 8:30:23 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Love my country, despise my federal government.)
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To: Publius

“Madison has demonstrated before that his is a clear and futuristic vision, and if in certain particulars the reality did not match the vision . . . “

The Framers were realists, very well aware of man’s propensity to accumulate power at the expense of our liberty. In each Federalist there are warnings of corruptions to the system they designed. The first corruption they warned of begins with a debauched people who think they can trade freedom for security.


5 posted on 11/01/2010 8:42:53 AM PDT by Jacquerie (You cannot love your country if you do not love the Declaration and Constitution. Mark Levin)
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Shuuuuush!we'll have none of that now..........Just before an election???
6 posted on 11/01/2010 3:15:55 PM PDT by M-cubed
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