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Labor Unions Fear Rollback of Rights if G.O.P. Wins
New York Times ^ | November 1m 2010 | Steven Greenhouse

Posted on 11/01/2010 9:33:27 AM PDT by lbryce

Organized labor is deeply worried about what happens after Tuesday.

By many measures, labor unions have been the Republicans’ fiercest, biggest-spending opponents in this year’s campaign, laying out more than $200 million in hopes of safeguarding the Democratic majorities in the House and Senate.

So it should be no surprise that Republicans, who appear to stand a good chance of winning control of the House or Senate, are signaling that they plan to push bills and strategies to undermine labor’s political clout and ability to grow.

“Republicans are likely to pursue a version of what Samuel Gompers often said: ‘Reward your friends and punish your enemies,’ ” said Joseph McCartin, a labor historian at Georgetown University.

One bill that is popular among Republicans would prohibit employers from ever agreeing to unionization through “card check,” a process often used today in which an employer recognizes a union as soon as a majority of workers sign pro-union cards — without holding a secret-ballot election. Another bill would severely crimp labor’s campaign spending by barring unions from using any portion of a union member’s dues money for political purposes unless the member first gives written permission.

A Republican-led House or Senate is expected to be more eager than a Democratic-controlled one to approve free trade agreements that unions oppose, and to be more reluctant to enact stimulus plans that unions have supported, like the recent bill that gave states $26 billion to help save the jobs of teachers, police and other government employees. A Republican-controlled House or Senate would probably block a labor-backed bill that would give firefighters and police officers in every state the right to unionize.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: democrats; organizedlabor; unions; unionscum
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......And this is a bad thing?
1 posted on 11/01/2010 9:33:31 AM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

‘Reward your friends and punish your enemies,’

Now where did I recently hear those words?


2 posted on 11/01/2010 9:34:50 AM PDT by MNDude (Ask the Native American's how their "Open Borders" policy worked out for them.)
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To: lbryce

They must also fear going back to work. There are a lot of union workers that are not earning a paycheck.


3 posted on 11/01/2010 9:34:52 AM PDT by texmexis best
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To: lbryce

MAKE THEM DEFINE THE TERMS

What “rights” are they talking about?

MAKE THEM DEFINE THE TERMS
and leftists will always lose the argument.


4 posted on 11/01/2010 9:35:57 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: lbryce

Enact legislation that makes all unions illegal. Anyone caught organizing one will be executed.

I know, I can dream right?


5 posted on 11/01/2010 9:36:18 AM PDT by Peter from Rutland
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To: lbryce
They better fear for their very existence.
6 posted on 11/01/2010 9:37:00 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: lbryce

The first thing that has to be done is a full scale investigation into SEIU. Their finances and intimidation tactics. Especially the pension funds.


7 posted on 11/01/2010 9:37:15 AM PDT by Marty62 (marty60)
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To: Peter from Rutland

I’m sure you were posting with your tongue firmly in your cheek, but...

no need to make unions illegal. Just as there is no need to make immoral behavior illegal.

Just repeal all laws that support union power,
give the choice back to the people,
enforce laws against intimidation and thuggery,

and unions will go bye bye all on their own.


8 posted on 11/01/2010 9:38:11 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: MrB
What “rights” are they talking about?

Precisely. These aren't 'rights', they're Government enforced privileges.

9 posted on 11/01/2010 9:38:30 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: lbryce
The entire point of a union is to keep people from working.

By creating barriers to entry in a given labor market, they raise their own wages by restricting supply. That's the point of monopsony. As a consequence, the public suffers through higher prices, the unemployed suffer through fewer available jobs, companies suffer from less competitiveness.

Screw the unions.
10 posted on 11/01/2010 9:38:45 AM PDT by JHBowden (Keep the Change!)
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To: lbryce

The union scumbags have no rights to any of our tax dollars or any other rights not defined by the Constitution. Special deals made for them can and should be rolled back.


11 posted on 11/01/2010 9:38:45 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: lbryce

I hope the GOP rips the funding guts out of the unions. They’ve nearly destroyed Michigan, and the fight to defund the forced unionization of day care providers here is still in court.

They are despicable. Once upon a time they served a good purpose but not anymore. Screw ‘em.


12 posted on 11/01/2010 9:38:56 AM PDT by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: lbryce

Public unions need to be ended yesterday. Cops included.

401K is the way.


13 posted on 11/01/2010 9:39:28 AM PDT by wac3rd (Somewhere in Hell, Ted Kennedy snickers....)
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To: lbryce

Unions. A boon to the working man 50 years ago
A boon to lazy rotten bastards and Union Boss Leadership nowadays.


14 posted on 11/01/2010 9:39:35 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA
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To: lbryce

Labor unions are monopolized labor and by definition should be illegal.


15 posted on 11/01/2010 9:40:21 AM PDT by paulcissa (The first requirement of Liberalism is to stand on your head and tell the world they're upside down)
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To: lbryce

How about rolling FORWARD the rights of people who DON’T belong to unions?


16 posted on 11/01/2010 9:40:24 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: lbryce

How about rolling FORWARD the rights of people who DON’T belong to unions?


17 posted on 11/01/2010 9:40:38 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: lbryce

Samuel Gompers:
Gompers retained a certain sympathy for the ideas of Karl Marx throughout his life, although believing that the socialist movement had been captured by Lassallean advocates of “political party action” rather than the “militant economic program of Marx.”[15] /Wiki

He was one of socialist ‘founding fathers’ of the union movement in the US. Of course he was a British Jew.


18 posted on 11/01/2010 9:40:57 AM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever)
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To: lbryce

Rights my @ss!

They should be dealt with a la Reagan’s confrontation with the Air Traffic Controllers!


19 posted on 11/01/2010 9:41:06 AM PDT by melancholy (It ain't Camelot, it's Scam-a-lot!)
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To: lbryce
Another bill would severely crimp labor’s campaign spending by barring unions from using any portion of a union member’s dues money for political purposes unless the member first gives written permission.

This should already be law.


20 posted on 11/01/2010 9:41:20 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Today, Congress. Tomorrow, the White House!)
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To: lbryce

I predict civil war within the unions. They blew big bucks on this election and its all for nothing


21 posted on 11/01/2010 9:41:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: wac3rd

“401K is the way.”

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columns/Unions-target-your-private-retirement-savings-1398118-106409193.html


22 posted on 11/01/2010 9:45:19 AM PDT by kevao
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To: lbryce

Poor sweeties... no more tax money to fund their retirement and healthcare entitlements? You mean they’re going to have to live like the rest of us Americans? Poor babies!


23 posted on 11/01/2010 9:49:02 AM PDT by dps.inspect (the system is rigged...)
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To: lbryce
"Stroke of the pen. Law of the land. Kinda cool." -- Clinton presidential aide Paul Begala, July 1998

President Kennedy’s Executive Order 10998, allowing Federal unions, is what opened the door for public sector unions at the state and local level, which is leading to bankruptcy from bloated public sector salaries, benefits, and retirement plans. Businesses that offered plans like many governments have would go bankrupt. Gov’t entities will, too, eventually, but it will be much more painful.

This is why unions should again be outlawed for public employees.

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24 posted on 11/01/2010 9:49:36 AM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: reagan_fanatic
This should already be law.

...how 'bout the USSC BECK Decision...
http://www.mackinac.org/1403


25 posted on 11/01/2010 9:50:01 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Imam Zer0: DeathCARE, Is my only approved plan....to hell w/ free enterprise. :^)
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To: lbryce
The only union that the Democrats care about now is the SEIU, because it's membership is vastly non-White, non-American.

The queer elitists who dominate the Democratic "leadership" and idolize the illegal alien masses from Mexico as a "victim nationality" have nothing in common with the UAW / IAM midwestern working class and only respond to them as a matter of money. Other than that, they are repelled by them - clinging to their guns and religion, ya know?

The Unions have no one to blame but the morons in the mirror. If they ever thought that Bambi gave a crap about them, they were sadly mistaken.

Now if they were 90% Black unions, that'd be different...

26 posted on 11/01/2010 9:50:20 AM PDT by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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To: lbryce
A Republican-controlled House or Senate would probably block a labor-backed bill that would give firefighters and police officers in every state the right to unionize.

They better make it illegal for public employees to unionize. Neuter the dem/commie machine.

27 posted on 11/01/2010 9:53:27 AM PDT by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Doulos1

“Of course he was a British Jew.”

Which means what exactly?

I ask because you don’t make explicit your meaning, something here is implied, I’m curious as to what.

Are all British Jews Marxists/socialists or labor leaders?


28 posted on 11/01/2010 9:55:19 AM PDT by skepsel
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To: lbryce

No, we will kill all union members... cook their children and eat them! /S

LLS


29 posted on 11/01/2010 9:55:50 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: lbryce

Just declare them to be subversive organizations (which they are) and outlaw them.


30 posted on 11/01/2010 9:56:50 AM PDT by Iron Munro (This is our culture; fight for it. This is our flag; pick it up. This is our country; take it back.)
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To: lbryce
There are now more government employee union members than private sector union members.
31 posted on 11/01/2010 9:58:27 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: skinkinthegrass

Beck vs CWA, the unions hated it, part of the ruling was that the import of the decision had to be publicly posted, ie., the unions had to tell the members they could get a refund of that portion of their dues used for political purposes.

I’ve heard that as soon as Clinton took office the “Beck” notices came down and never went back up, I know it happened in my office.


32 posted on 11/01/2010 10:00:10 AM PDT by skepsel
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To: lbryce
...more like unions fear rollback of corruption.

Government employee unions must be eliminated.

33 posted on 11/01/2010 10:18:13 AM PDT by Zman516 (muslims, marxists, communists ---> satan's useful idiot corps)
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To: paulcissa; MrB
paulcissa: “Labor unions are monopolized labor and by definition should be illegal.”

Actually that's as bad as forcing someone to join a union in order to work. Both involve the heavy hand of government. Only public unions should be made illegal. Public “servants” should not be permitted to unionize against The People.

MrB wrote with much wisdom on the issue. Eliminate government/union collusion, and most of the unions will dry up on their own. Those that actually serve their employees and produce good results will survive. In a free society, what business is it of you or I to tell someone that cannot voluntarily associate with others to try and better their pay and benefits?

34 posted on 11/01/2010 10:18:16 AM PDT by CitizenUSA
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To: lbryce
Payback's a bitch, ain't it?

Mike

35 posted on 11/01/2010 10:19:49 AM PDT by MichaelP (Put a Stake in the RATS hearts November 2nd)
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To: skinkinthegrass

Good find.

Unfortunately, a law unenforced is about the same as no law at all :(


36 posted on 11/01/2010 10:21:00 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Today, Congress. Tomorrow, the White House!)
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To: Brett66

Agreed. Outlaw public unions. Private unions are destroying themselves on their own.


37 posted on 11/01/2010 10:22:12 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: skepsel

Are all British Jews Marxists/socialists or labor leaders?

I didn’t say that.
Kind of sensitive aren’t we.
Who was Moses Hess?
Who was Karl Marx?
etc.


38 posted on 11/01/2010 10:34:12 AM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever)
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To: lbryce
We can only hope that the Tea Party "Radicals" rally to a repeal of the statutory "labor exemption" in the Clayton Act. The proof that Unions are in restraint of trade and harmful to economic progress lies in the present condition of Detroit.

As it stands now, so long as a union acts unilaterally and in its own interest, it is immune from claims its conduct restrains trade. This was not always the case. Before the 1914 Clayton Act and the 1932 Norris Laguardia Act, "a combination of laborers to obtain a raise in wages was itself a prohibited monopoly" under the Sherman Act.

Ascribing monopoly status to trade unions did not effectively end until Norris Laguardia - passed March 23, 1932.

If you believe, as I do, that financial markets reflect what legislation will be good for the economy and which will not provide benefit, the DJIA chart for March 1932 is revealing.

The Norris LaGuardia Act, at least in concept, had been before the Congress for a number of years. One of its primary features was to prohibit a "labor injunction." On March 7, 1932, 4 were killed when police fired on 3,000 unemployed workers marching at the Ford River Rouge plant.

Mid December through March of 1932 may be characterized as consolidation, with the DJIA trading in a stable range. The last "top" in this chart pattern is March 8. The average ten moves down to the depression bottom. The market probably knew Norris Laguardia passage was a forgone conclusion within 1 1/2 days of the River Rouge incident.

Now, 80 years later we have the wreckage the 1932 market predicted. 2010 Deitroit.

39 posted on 11/01/2010 10:42:11 AM PDT by frithguild (The Democrat Party Brand - Big Government protecting Entrenched Interests from Competition)
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To: melancholy

“They should be dealt with a la Reagan’s confrontation with the Air Traffic Controllers!”

EXACTLY what I was thinking. That was so cool!!


40 posted on 11/01/2010 10:43:25 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: lbryce

More specifically, the labor unions fear having to give back all the money they stole.


41 posted on 11/01/2010 10:44:15 AM PDT by Interesting Times (SwiftVets.com. WinterSoldier.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: lbryce

I would be satisfied if the fed passed a law which prohibited any state, county or city government agency from entering into a collective bargaining agreement.


42 posted on 11/01/2010 10:51:18 AM PDT by IamConservative (Our collective common sense; the only thing a 1.5GPF toilet ever flushed on the first pull.)
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To: MayflowerMadam
EXACTLY what I was thinking. That was so cool!!

At that time, I laughed my head off for hours. Reagan gave a very short deadline to anyone to get back his/her job. I don't remember if anyone did, thinking Reagan will back down because he didn't have enough trained replacements. Lo and behold, Reagan put Air Force personnel in charge, replaced them little by little with new, non-union trained civilians and the rest is history!

43 posted on 11/01/2010 11:03:03 AM PDT by melancholy (It ain't Camelot, it's Scam-a-lot!)
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To: lbryce

How sweet. This is the kind of rollback we have been waiting for.


44 posted on 11/01/2010 11:05:19 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Peter from Rutland
Enact legislation that makes all unions illegal.

Or at the very least, all public employee unions made illegal. How is it legal for those who are paid with our tax dollars to spend OUR money to support candidates against our wishes?

45 posted on 11/01/2010 11:11:52 AM PDT by Shethink13
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To: lbryce
So it should be no surprise that Republicans, who appear to stand a good chance of winning control of the House or Senate, are signaling that they plan to push bills and strategies to undermine labor’s political clout and ability to grow.

The private sector unions have been nearly extinguished by their friends, the Democrats.

Must be talking about the public sector unions.

46 posted on 11/01/2010 11:13:17 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: lbryce
Hate to remind you, losers, those aren't rights.

They are illegally coerced blackmai/protection rackets, albeit "institutionalized" with a veneer of legitimacy.

Where in the Constitution are they listed?

47 posted on 11/01/2010 12:04:31 PM PDT by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: lbryce
A Republican-controlled House or Senate would probably block a labor-backed bill that would give firefighters and police officers in every state the right to unionize.

I certainly hope so!

No rational society allows the public servants to set the rules or make demands.

They are free to go elsewhere and get (leglal) jobs that pay them what they're worth!

48 posted on 11/01/2010 12:07:31 PM PDT by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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To: lbryce

It isn’t about friends and enemies, it’s about common sense.

Pretty much everywhere a union has been, a closed business has followed. This is especially true in government.


49 posted on 11/01/2010 12:10:56 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: frithguild
On March 7, 1932, 4 were killed when police fired on 3,000 unemployed workers marching at the Ford River Rouge plant.

Hope those policemen were all fired.

That is pathetic shooting.

Just sayin'

50 posted on 11/01/2010 12:13:26 PM PDT by Publius6961 ("In 1964 the War on Poverty Began --- Poverty won.")
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