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MUSLIM WORLD: Young European man explains why he converted to Islam (Marxist turns to Islam)
latimes ^ | October 30, 2010 | Alexandra Sandels

Posted on 11/01/2010 3:21:39 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn

Why would a left-leaning young man from one of the world's most secular and liberal countries choose to become a pious Muslim?

The 34-year old Swedish music teacher from Stockholm, who asked that his last name not be published, attempted to explain his decision, describing it as the culmination of a long journey searching for faith and him solidifying his religious beliefs that he couldn’t always place.

What’s the appeal? In part, Malcolm said, Islam fits in well with his left-wing views. ”In that sense, Islam fits me really well,” he said. “I am completely against capitalism.”

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1 posted on 11/01/2010 3:21:47 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Why would a left-leaning young man from one of the world's most secular and liberal countries choose to become a pious Muslim?
Stupid f*ing liberals still haven't figured it out.

BECAUSE THEY BOTH (the left & the muzzies) HATE FREEDOM!!!!

2 posted on 11/01/2010 3:24:15 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Steve Van Doorn

islam and communism have alot in common.

both are extremely totalitarian and coercive whereas Christianity won`t coerce anyone.


3 posted on 11/01/2010 3:25:03 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Kill Christians, ditch the US Constitution in favor of some authoritarian rag, give the spoils to Allah (c/o Big Brother).

Whats not to love?

4 posted on 11/01/2010 3:26:14 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Steve Van Doorn
In part, Malcolm said, Islam fits in well with his left-wing views. "In that sense, Islam fits me really well," he said. "I am completely against capitalism."
Capitalism = Freedom

THEY BOTH HATE FREEDOM!!!

5 posted on 11/01/2010 3:27:03 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Steve Van Doorn
He had attended Friday prayer service in the grand mosque of Stockholm,

Stockholm syndrome. Seriously.
6 posted on 11/01/2010 3:27:54 PM PDT by HushTX (Yep. It's confirmed. Liberals are all idiots.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

This does not surprise me in the least. The logical progression is: Liberal => Secular Leftist => Atheist Marxist => Islamic Marxist. Atheisism just creates a void that Islam is waiting to fill.


7 posted on 11/01/2010 3:28:24 PM PDT by rbg81 (When you see Obama, shout: "DO YOUR JOB!!")
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To: Steve Van Doorn

If your goal in life is to exert control over the lives of others, Islam gets you there a lot faster than Marxism.


8 posted on 11/01/2010 3:29:25 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: Steve Van Doorn
Why would a left-leaning young man from one of the world's most secular and liberal countries choose to become a pious Muslim?

Perfect illustration of Chesterton's epigram, that he who stands for nothing will fall for anything.

9 posted on 11/01/2010 3:29:27 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Marxist turns to Islam, wow. Next thing you will know a pig will turn into a hog.


10 posted on 11/01/2010 3:30:10 PM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever)
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To: samtheman

Yep. Both Islam and the left are essentially anarchist in their immediate social and political agenda. Easy cross over for lefties since all the babbling about “workers,” or “justice” was BS from day one.

Modern western civilization has become a bleak spectacle of emptiness bereft of meaning and comfort for the individual, especially in Europe. Conversions such as this do not surprise me. In a battle between Something and Nothing, Something will win even if its as insane as radical Islam.

The left has been undermining the foundations in the west for 100+ years. We now see the terrible legacy of that folly and crime.


11 posted on 11/01/2010 3:30:30 PM PDT by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Sort of like flying IFR without an attitude indicator or turn and slip needle.

Death spiral soon to follow.

Only fools and Kennedys try this sort of sh*t.


12 posted on 11/01/2010 3:32:05 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: samtheman

Nazis teamed up with Muslims during WW2.

NEVER see that reported by any LSM source.

Maybe if Muslims keep mailing bombs to Jews here in the U.S. the media coverage will change a bit?


13 posted on 11/01/2010 3:34:16 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Steve Van Doorn
In that sense, Islam fits me really well,...

He gets to add abuse of women to his socialist goals.

14 posted on 11/01/2010 3:34:27 PM PDT by 3niner (When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
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To: Mad_as_heck

Good post. Well said.


15 posted on 11/01/2010 3:36:21 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: Steve Van Doorn

You can’t fix stupid. Of course the Left constantly criticizes Christians for being moralistic and puritanical, but so long as its Islam, then religious and moral sentiments are noble.


16 posted on 11/01/2010 3:37:53 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: Steve Van Doorn
I guess he likes:

Blowing things up.
Hating Jews and Christians.
70 virgins in Land O' Allah

Gee, what's not to like?
Unfortunately the poor fellow hasn't looked behind the curtain and found that he's hitching himself to a wagon that is taking him straight to hell.
Prayers for the lost. Hope they get 'un-lost' before its too late.

17 posted on 11/01/2010 3:38:22 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: samtheman

That’s why the spiritual and political battles so often go hand-in-hand.

This country was founded on the “self-evident truths” that all people are endowed by their Creator with rights that can’t be given by any person or government but can only be either rightly protected or wrongly violated. Some of those rights are the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

As you’ve pointed out, both repressive politics and repressive religion are enemies of life (see abortion, eugenics, and death camps on the part of communism, and terrorism and the execution of “infidels” on the part of Islam). They are the enemies of liberty (see communism’s “nothing you do makes any difference” outcome, and Islam’s forbiddance of everything joyful, as well as the enslavement of women and “infidels”). They are enemies of the pursuit of happiness (an extension of both previous items).

As Jesus said, “The thief comes only to steal, to kill, and to destroy. I have come that they may have life, and have it abundantly.”

Neither repressive politics nor repressive religion works, because neither recognizes the fallenness of man or fixes what is broken in man. They both just prescribe band-aids for symptoms.


18 posted on 11/01/2010 3:42:19 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Evidently sodomizing little boys and abusing women, stoning, chopping off hands or heads is okay with him. Talk about stupid. Well, he’ll feel right at home with the rest of the barbarians in the Middle East.


19 posted on 11/01/2010 3:44:06 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Steve Van Doorn

This doofus is a music teacher? Muslims hate music; they do not permit it in their religious services and strict Muslim societies actually don’t permit it at all.


20 posted on 11/01/2010 3:44:26 PM PDT by livius
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To: Steve Van Doorn

I guess he likes the idea of throwing people into gulags or whipping and stoning them.


21 posted on 11/01/2010 3:51:20 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Then he needs to move to an Islam country and really experience it.


22 posted on 11/01/2010 3:53:45 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Unam Sanctam

If they are not living in an Islam country; they think nothing will happen. They can scream all they want because they want to be noticed.


23 posted on 11/01/2010 3:55:24 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: livius
yeap, and it is executable to listen to music in Gaza.

A lot of musicians are attracted to Islam look at CatStevens.
Even know Music is equated to pork and alcohol in Islam.

24 posted on 11/01/2010 4:01:46 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Islam is a very attractive religion to many potential converts. It is simple, easy and there is no real demand for repentance. One can maintain and cherish animosities and pride. Islam is accommodating to the arrogant oppressor - a natural fit for any Marxist who decides maybe there is more than simple physical matter in the universe.


25 posted on 11/01/2010 4:09:23 PM PDT by Psalm 144
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Former British PM Blair’s sister in law also converted. This will accelerate.


26 posted on 11/01/2010 4:14:14 PM PDT by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

At least he admitted that being muslim means anti-capitalism.


27 posted on 11/01/2010 4:22:55 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Totally against capitalism!!

Where does he expect people to get money to pay for HIS services??


28 posted on 11/01/2010 4:24:41 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: taxesareforever

“At least he admitted that being muslim means anti-capitalism.”

Maybe he doesn’t know that Kuwait & Saudi Arabia are Muslim...


29 posted on 11/01/2010 4:51:16 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Anything that pulls civilization back and beyond the stone age, I guess.


30 posted on 11/01/2010 5:14:04 PM PDT by Moose Burger
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To: kearnyirish2

LOL!


31 posted on 11/01/2010 7:35:03 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Release Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich and let him and his family get on with their lives.)
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To: butterdezillion
Neither repressive politics nor repressive religion works...
It depends on how you define "works". If you mean "allow freedom and liberty to bloom" then you are right, neither works.

But if you mean "able to retain power for decades or centuries" then they both "work".

Communism would still be in power in the Soviet Union if there had been no USA. And in fact, communism hasn't really been defeated, has it?

And Islam can create slave societies that last a thousand years, or more.

So slavery works. It most definitely works. If free people do nothing, slave holders rise up and build slave societies.

32 posted on 11/02/2010 4:51:49 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: kearnyirish2

Kuwait and Saudi Arabia aren’t capitalist societies. Certainly Saudi Arabia isn’t. Kuwait I’m not so sure about. I suspect that Kuwait (like Saudi Arabia) allows certain types of business activity and dispenses certain business “freedoms” that the state can easily take away, anytime it wants.

And in both places, what you see as “capitalism” is just huge mountains of oil wealth. Not the same thing. Not by a long shot.


33 posted on 11/02/2010 4:54:38 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman

I guess when I say “works” I mean accomplishes what it SAYS is the goal.

It does accomplish its real goal, which is power for the ruling class. When people see it for what it is, sane people reject it, which is why both communism and Islam have to lie in order to get converts; communism lying by claiming not to be a religion, and Islam lying by claiming not to be a political system. In reality they are the same thing: a system whereby one supposedly-benevolent group of people (supposedly secular in communism and supposedly religious in Islam) dominates and controls everybody else by threats and punishment for dissenters.


34 posted on 11/02/2010 5:47:07 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: butterdezillion
In reality they are the same thing: a system whereby one supposedly-benevolent group of people (supposedly secular in communism and supposedly religious in Islam) dominates and controls everybody else by threats and punishment for dissenters.
Very true.
35 posted on 11/02/2010 7:26:53 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman

I certainly don’t see Saudis or Kuwaitis sharing the wealth with their imported workforces; what are they?


36 posted on 11/02/2010 6:16:19 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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