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Islamic militants attack Baghdad Catholic parish during Mass; dozens slain
Catholic Culture.org ^ | 11-01-10 | CatholicCulture

Posted on 11/01/2010 3:57:58 PM PDT by Salvation

Islamic militants attack Baghdad Catholic parish during Mass; dozens slain

  November 01, 2010

Gunmen linked with al-Qaeda stormed a Catholic church in Baghdad during Mass on October 31.

“They entered the church with their weapons, wearing military uniforms,” said an 18-year-old who survived the attack. “They came into the prayer hall and immediately killed the priest.”

After the gunmen took the worshippers hostage, US troops and Iraqi police stormed the parish in a rescue attempt. One gunman detonated a suicide belt, and a shootout ensued, leaving at least 37 hostages and 7 members of security forces dead along with 5 terrorists.

The Islamic State of Iraq-- the Iraqi al-Qaeda affiliate-- said it was responsible for attacking what it called “the dirty place of the infidel which Iraqi Christians have long used as a base to fight Islam.” The group said that it was taking action in support of Muslims in Egypt, charging that Muslim women are being held hostage by Coptic Orthodox clerics. The group warned that it could take action against the Copts next.

At a midday audience on November 1, Pope Benedict XVI decried the “senseless violence—all the more ferocious because it affected defenseless civilians.”

“Faced with the brutal violence that continues to tear the peoples of the Middle East apart”, the Holy Father added, “I renew my appeal for peace.” Chaldean Catholic Bishop Shlemon Warduni—who visited survivors on Monday, together with Chaldean Patriarch Emmanuel III Delly—remarked that “the Christian community no longer feel safe, not even in the House of God.” He predicted that the attack would trigger a new round of emigration as Iraqi Christians look for security elsewhere.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 0bamasfault; baghdad; catholic; catholiclist; obamasfault; wot
The Catholic viewpoint of this massacre.

I know this happened yesterday, but I believe there are some additional facts here. (As well as other sources.)

One seems to ask, "Why, Lord?" But then I remember that out of every difficulty a greater good will come.

1 posted on 11/01/2010 3:58:07 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; markomalley; ...

News Ping!


2 posted on 11/01/2010 4:00:19 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
But then I remember that out of every difficulty a greater good will come.

With all due respect, all that can come out of a radical muzzie atrocity is the time span until the next one.

3 posted on 11/01/2010 4:03:43 PM PDT by luvbach1 (Stop Barry now. He can't help himself.)
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To: luvbach1

Sad but true — until they themselves are exterminated.


4 posted on 11/01/2010 4:08:07 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both.)
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To: Salvation

Thousands of American casualties to bring the “blessings of democracy” to this Mohammedan cesspool and this is what we have to show for it, more dead Eastern Christians!


5 posted on 11/01/2010 4:08:13 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: Salvation

Yet one more story from the Middle East that you’ll never see from any MSM outlet.


6 posted on 11/01/2010 4:10:39 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ("Give me your secrets, Bring me a sign, Give me a reason to walk the fire.")
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To: Kolokotronis

And Zero lectures the U.S. about tolerance.

Says NOTHING to Muslims other than a string of apologizes showing weakness and provoking further attacks.


7 posted on 11/01/2010 4:10:53 PM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: Salvation

I cannot say that the Pope is wrong to urge prayer for peace, but the Muslims understand much better the actions of a previous Pope. Pope UrbanII who launched the first crusade.

I believe one day a new crusade will have to be launched. These Islamics have no intention of backing off any time soon, and the atrocities in the Middle east will become worse as they become more powerful.

If I were a Christian in the Middle east, I would remember the holocaust and run before the Islamics fire up the ovens.


8 posted on 11/01/2010 4:12:45 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

So true Sam.


9 posted on 11/01/2010 4:14:24 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Venturer

**If I were a Christian in the Middle east, I would remember the holocaust and run before the Islamics fire up the ovens.**

May be happening there now — how would we know?

But those ovens are a gruesome sight — saw them at Auschwitz.


10 posted on 11/01/2010 4:16:42 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: BenLurkin

You can now expect our mooooooooderate US muslims to get to the streets to officially protest this barbarism. Our muslims are soooooo very different from those you find elsewhere.


11 posted on 11/01/2010 4:19:47 PM PDT by 353FMG (In the end, it will be either ISLAM or America -- it cannot be both.)
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To: Salvation

Hello Salvation. Hope all is well with you. Would it be to much to ask, and remove me from list?

Thanks so much,

The MotorCityBuck

Peace


12 posted on 11/01/2010 4:22:59 PM PDT by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal!)
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To: Salvation

Each Muslim in any country not ruled by Sharia Law is required to identify that country as Dar-Al-Harb...Land of War.

The Islamic definition of peace is not a Western definition.


13 posted on 11/01/2010 4:34:31 PM PDT by givemELL (Does Taiwan eet the Criteria to Qualify as an "Overseas Territory of the United States"? by Richar)
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To: Venturer

The most bizarre aspect of this is that Saddam Hussein actually protected Christians in Iraq (which is why so many were safe there until his government fell). I remember when the US invaded, Iraqi Christians in Michigan warned what would happen in the vacuum that would be created in his absence (I believe he had actually helped build a Chaldean-Rite Church in their area). His deputy prime minister (Aziz?) is a Christian (I believe he was just sentenced to death for some thing or other).


14 posted on 11/01/2010 4:41:25 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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15 posted on 11/01/2010 4:50:00 PM PDT by SJackson (In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is freedom, In water there is bacteria.)
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To: kearnyirish2

US military should have a high-level task force to fully investigate these incidents and target the attackers involved for severe reprisal. It is our responsibility. This genocide against Christians is one of the worst legacies of “Operation Iraqi Freedom.”


16 posted on 11/01/2010 4:54:34 PM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: kearnyirish2

That is because Sadadam was a secularist and ran a secular government.

Unfortunately Iraq seems to be an Islamist country now.


17 posted on 11/01/2010 4:56:56 PM PDT by Not gonna take it anymore
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To: Salvation
[O]ut of every difficulty a greater good will come.

Yea, verily.

1 Who is this who comes from Edom,
      With dyed garments from Bozrah,
      This One who is glorious in His apparel,
      Traveling in the greatness of His strength?—


      “ I who speak in righteousness, mighty to save.”
       2 Why is Your apparel red,
      And Your garments like one who treads in the winepress?
       3 “ I have trodden the winepress alone,
      And from the peoples no one was with Me.
      For I have trodden them in My anger,
      And trampled them in My fury;
      Their blood is sprinkled upon My garments,
      And I have stained all My robes.
       4 For the day of vengeance is in My heart,
      And the year of My redeemed has come.
       5 I looked, but there was no one to help,
      And I wondered
      That there was no one to uphold;
      Therefore My own arm brought salvation for Me;
      And My own fury, it sustained Me.
       6 I have trodden down the peoples in My anger,
      Made them drunk in My fury,
      And brought down their strength to the earth.”
      -- Is: 63:1-6 NKJV

Here's to it being sooner rather than later.

18 posted on 11/01/2010 4:57:32 PM PDT by HKMk23 (Politics ain't hard! You want worse; vote Democrat. You want better; vote Conservative.)
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19 posted on 11/01/2010 5:00:39 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: SJackson

Best reaction to this story:

1. Religion of Piece strikes again
2. This is all Bush’s fault/sarc
3. This is all Israel’s fault/sarc
4. The Pope provoked this with his inflammatory rhetoric/sarc
5. All of the above.


20 posted on 11/01/2010 5:04:04 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 ( They cry "Piece, piece." And there is no peace.)
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To: mas cerveza por favor

“US military should have a high-level task force to fully investigate these incidents and target the attackers involved for severe reprisal.”

A nice idea, but we can’t even keep our troops anywhere near Iraqi population centers without high losses; they’ve pulled them back to remote bases, and they’ll operate as mobile strike forces from there, but these attackers (and a large number of other Iraqis) are part of the general population.


21 posted on 11/01/2010 5:15:23 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

Absolutely; the Shah has been replaced by an Ayatollah, so to speak. The radical Muslims we’re fighting there are the same enemies Saddam kept at bay (and we were happy to arm him to do it, both in Iraq and in Iran).


22 posted on 11/01/2010 5:17:06 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Salvation
"One seems to ask, "Why, Lord?" But then I remember that out of every difficulty a greater good will come. "

With respect, Salvation, this event is not a "difficulty". It is an atrocity of the first order, is typical of the actions of true believers in Islam, and totally in keeping with the Qu'ran of Islam. In fact, it is emblematic of Islam, which is nothing but an evil cult whose resurgence imperils Western Civilization and Christianity now just as in Medieval times. The term "moderate Muslim" is an oxymoron - there are only those Muslims who embody and execute the tenets of Islam and those who are lax. The latter are in the category of useful idiots.

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
23 posted on 11/01/2010 5:22:28 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN '69 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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To: kearnyirish2
A nice idea, but we can’t even keep our troops anywhere near Iraqi population centers without high losses

We can't guard the churches. That might backfire anyway. However, we should make it a priority to find out who is behind the attack. Which imam, tribal sheik, cell group, or militia did this? They should be hit them extra hard. That might give the Christians some breathing space to survive, even as our presence scales back. Otherwise, our legacy may be said to include the ethnic cleansing of Christians from Iraq.

24 posted on 11/01/2010 5:34:40 PM PDT by mas cerveza por favor
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To: ConorMacNessa
Your words are well taken. There is no “moderate Muslim”. All of Islam reads the SAME book. I wanted to add that to your discussion. Thanks.
25 posted on 11/01/2010 5:38:37 PM PDT by cameraeye (A happy kufir!)
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To: mas cerveza por favor

“Otherwise, our legacy may be said to include the ethnic cleansing of Christians from Iraq.”

It already is; they’re leaving, and not going back. There is no way to secure them; at least in Lebanon they were almost half of the population (and still lost). As the French took many of them in back then, so we are taking in many of these Christians. If the US can’t deal with those killing US troops, what can they hope to achieve against those targeting Iraq’a Christians?


26 posted on 11/01/2010 5:45:04 PM PDT by kearnyirish2
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To: Salvation
One seems to ask, "Why, Lord?" But then I remember that out of every difficulty a greater good will come.

"Sangria martyria sperma eccelesia"---the blood of the Martyrs is the seed of the Church.

27 posted on 11/01/2010 6:16:35 PM PDT by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini)
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To: Salvation
why? i'd say the bigger question is why they waited so long???

i'm surprised there are any Christians left...

28 posted on 11/01/2010 6:59:47 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Voter Fraud should be a Capital Offense!!!)
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To: mas cerveza por favor

Won’t happen with Obama calling the shots. He has yet to condemn the attack.


29 posted on 11/01/2010 7:49:58 PM PDT by wiley
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Bingo.


30 posted on 11/01/2010 9:17:09 PM PDT by hershey
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To: wiley

Oh yes he did! He said the Muslims acted stupidly.

Oh wait, that was someone else.

Nevermind (in my best Emily Litella voice).


31 posted on 11/01/2010 9:23:51 PM PDT by Hoosier Catholic Momma (Arkansas resident of Hoosier upbringing--Yankee with a southern twang)
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To: Salvation

Islam (for the most part) is from the pit of He!!

There is NO such thing as moderate Muslim, there command is to CONQUER, CONVERT, or KI!! the Americans and Jews.


32 posted on 11/01/2010 9:37:59 PM PDT by TheDailyChange (Politics,Conservatism,Liberalism)
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To: wiley

Many contend that Obama is nothing more than a PANSY that is masquerading and pandering to the FREAKS of this world.

In addition, many believe he is nothing more than a MUSLIM OPERATIVE bent on destroying America from within.


33 posted on 11/01/2010 9:40:32 PM PDT by TheDailyChange (Politics,Conservatism,Liberalism)
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To: SJackson

Jihadist savages!


34 posted on 11/01/2010 9:49:53 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never "free")
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To: TigerClaws
And Zero lectures the U.S. about tolerance.

As if Bush didn't? Get real.

This catastrophe of Christian depopulation in Iraq is the direct consequence of the wicked decision to launch this unnecessary war. The blood of these martyrs is on the hands of Bush and the neocon hustlers who directed him. God forgive us.

35 posted on 11/02/2010 8:49:06 AM PDT by Romulus (The Traditional Latin Mass is the real Youth Mass)
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To: Kolokotronis
Thousands of American casualties to bring the “blessings of democracy”

Some people's devotion to "democracy" seems to violate the First Commandment.

36 posted on 11/02/2010 8:54:51 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: mas cerveza por favor
our legacy may be said to include the ethnic cleansing of Christians from Iraq.

Well gosh, how were we supposed to know?

From my post of 2/22/2003:

Christians in the Middle East are in a perilous position everywhere -- especially in Iraq. If you think Saddam Hussein's secular Baathist thugocracy is a menace to the Christian community, just wait till "democracy" is installed, reflecting the views of the majority, who are fervently Shi'ite and have already indicated their intent to hold out for shari'a as the basis for their new islamic republic. If you're wondering whether US taxpayers are about to sponsor another triumph for Christianity along the lines of Kosovo, my guess is, Yes.

Bush's fault. And how.

37 posted on 11/02/2010 9:48:19 AM PDT by Romulus (The Traditional Latin Mass is the real Youth Mass)
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To: Salvation

Those slain are Martyrs now, adoring the Face of God.

Remember the early Christian Martyrs being slaughtered by Pagan Rome, and Rome was then converted.

“The Blood of the Martyrs is the Seed of the Church.”

May God comfort and help the survivors and the families of those murdered by ISLAMIC militants this past Sunday.


38 posted on 11/02/2010 1:18:02 PM PDT by Infidel Heather (In God I trust, not the Government.)
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