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Judge questions Justice Department's lawsuit against Arizona immigration law
Washington Post ^ | 11/1/10 | Jerry Markon & Julie Tate

Posted on 11/01/2010 5:45:30 PM PDT by Nachum

A federal appellate judge expressed deep skepticism Monday about a Justice Department lawsuit challenging Arizona's new immigration law, leaving uncertain the Obama administration's chances of stopping the law from taking effect.

"I've read your brief, I've read the District Court opinion, I've heard your interchange with my two colleagues, and I don't understand your argument," Noonan told deputy solicitor general Edwin S. Kneedler. "We are dependent as a court on counsel being responsive. . . . You keep saying the problem is that a state officer is told to do something. That's not a matter of preemption. . . . I would think the proper thing to do is to concede that this is a point where you don't have an argument."

"With respect, I do believe we have an argument," said Kneedler, who asserts that the Arizona law is unconstitutional and threatens civil liberties by subjecting lawful immigrants to "interrogation and police surveillance.''

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: arizona; departments; edwinkneedler; ericholder; immigration; judge; justice; obama; palin; questions
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1 posted on 11/01/2010 5:45:39 PM PDT by Nachum
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The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

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2 posted on 11/01/2010 5:46:30 PM PDT by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum

Notice the argument they make in court is different than the argument they use in public.


3 posted on 11/01/2010 5:52:17 PM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton, Paradise Lost)
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To: Nachum

Bump.....


4 posted on 11/01/2010 5:53:48 PM PDT by Buddy B (MSgt Retired-USAF - Year: 1972)
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5 posted on 11/01/2010 6:00:17 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Nachum

Well, Mr. Kneedler (apt name), doesn’t that apply to every crime with multiple suspects—whether they’re white, black, hispanic or indifferent. This is a text book speciously juvenile argument.


6 posted on 11/01/2010 6:02:12 PM PDT by dools0007world
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To: Nachum

So let me get this straight, state folks can’t arrest illegals because it is a federal crime not a state crime. When the state makes it a crime, the feds say no, we are in charge of federal crimes and your laws are not necessary.

So when OKC was bombed by McVeigh, the state trooper who caught him should have said go on your way, I can only arrest folks for state crimes?


7 posted on 11/01/2010 6:06:46 PM PDT by Huskerscott
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To: Nachum
"I've read your brief, I've read the District Court opinion, I've heard your interchange with my two colleagues, and I don't understand your argument," Noonan told deputy solicitor general Edwin S. Kneedler.

And that's the POLITE way of putting it.

8 posted on 11/01/2010 6:10:29 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: Nachum

Reporter claims the Arizona law “has triggered a fierce national debate.” Who is debating? Criminals versus citizens???


9 posted on 11/01/2010 6:11:23 PM PDT by Missouri gal
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To: Nachum

Is it just my imagination, or is Obama’s plummeting approval rating affecting judges’ attitudes and decisions? It sure looks that way to me, especially with the indefinite stay the 9th Circuit put on abolishing DADT.


10 posted on 11/01/2010 6:18:42 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Nachum

power to the states!!!


11 posted on 11/01/2010 6:19:50 PM PDT by aces
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To: Fantasywriter

It sure seems like that to me also but I think it’s coming from a different place. Reports out about Pelosi leaving and burning bridges and some other indications lead me to believe that there is a concerted effort to oust Obummer from the Democratic side.


12 posted on 11/01/2010 6:29:43 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: CynicalBear

Seeing Pelosi retire would be the cherry on top of what is shaping up to be a great election day. I hope any effect that is having on the judges isn’t a temporary thing, though, and that they won’t shift back to tilting left once she’s gone and Obama is disgraced.


13 posted on 11/01/2010 6:35:30 PM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: aces
power to the states!!!

Leash the beast!!!
14 posted on 11/01/2010 7:03:15 PM PDT by Sparticus (Tar and feathers for the first dumb ass Republican that uses the word bipartisanship.)
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To: Nachum

On ABC radio this evening, I coulda sworn I heard them report this as the judge showing signs of throwing out key provisions in the law.

huh.


15 posted on 11/01/2010 7:06:14 PM PDT by digger48
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To: Nachum

Look, this whole lawsuit business against Arizona was a political move to gin up latino support for Obama and the dems. As a legal case, all I can say is OBAMA/HOLDER FAIL.


16 posted on 11/01/2010 7:07:23 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (T-Minus 1 Day and Counting to Return to Constitutional Principles)
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To: digger48

There are two articles out on today’s hearing...what you heard was the other report.


17 posted on 11/01/2010 7:10:31 PM PDT by HiJinx (I can see November from my front porch - and Mexico from the back.)
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To: Nachum

Harray! Could it be there exist Federal judges who try law instead of legislating from the bench? I’ll wait for further developments in the court room before assuming such in this case.


18 posted on 11/01/2010 7:16:35 PM PDT by veracious
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To: Missouri gal
Obama and the press versus the rest of America?
19 posted on 11/01/2010 7:20:58 PM PDT by Lexinom
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Thanks Nachum.
20 posted on 11/01/2010 7:28:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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