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Bush Considered Dropping Cheney From 2004 Ticket
New York Times ^

Posted on 11/02/2010 4:53:50 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Bush Considered Dropping Cheney From 2004 Ticket By PETER BAKER

6:14 p.m. | Updated President George W. Bush considered dumping Vice President Dick Cheney from his 2004 reelection ticket to dispel the myths about Mr. Cheney’s power in the White House and “demonstrate that I was in charge,” the former president says in a new memoir.

The idea came from Mr. Cheney, who offered to drop out of the race one day during a private lunch between the two men in mid-2003. “I did consider the offer,” Mr. Bush writes, and spent several weeks exploring the possibility of replacing Mr. Cheney with Senator Bill Frist of Tennessee, the majority leader, before opting against the switch.

“While Dick helped with important parts of our base, he had become a lightning rod for criticism from the media and the left,” Mr. Bush writes. “He was seen as dark and heartless – the Darth Vader of the administration.” The president resented the caricature that Mr. Cheney really controlled the White House. “Accepting Dick’s offer would be one way to demonstrate that I was in charge,” he writes.

But in the end, Mr. Bush writes, “the more I thought about it, the more strongly I felt Dick should stay. I hadn’t picked him to be a political asset; I had chosen him to help me do the job. That was exactly what he had done.” Mr. Bush wrote that he trusted Mr. Cheney, valued his steadiness and considered him a good friend. So, “at one of our lunches a few weeks later, I asked Dick to stay and he agreed.”

(Excerpt) Read more at thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush43; cheney; gwb2004; veepcheney
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1 posted on 11/02/2010 4:53:51 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

That sounds just like Cheney: concerned for the team and the country, not just for himself. We need many more politicians like Dick Cheney. He’s always been a humble classy guy.


2 posted on 11/02/2010 4:57:42 PM PDT by DeweyCA
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To: Sub-Driver

Sounds like Bush’s book is going to be honest and straightforward, just like the man.

If you’ll read the quotes, he’s very complimentary toward Cheney. This was likely one of the easiest decisions of his presidency.


3 posted on 11/02/2010 4:59:22 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: Sub-Driver
Cheney was the perfect pick. George picked well seasoned people and it's the right way.

I wouldn't want "political payoffs" giving me advice. I'm looking for wisdom across the table from me. President Bush was running a country not a PTA meeting.

And I miss him and wish him and his family all good things.

I think George and Laura ae gonna make great grandparents someday.

4 posted on 11/02/2010 5:01:07 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sub-Driver

Cheney shoulda dropped Bush.


5 posted on 11/02/2010 5:01:14 PM PDT by MountainDad (Support your local Militia)
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To: Sub-Driver

That’s nothing.

Bush kept defending Def. Sec. Rumsfeld up through the 2006 election, despite Republican requests to toss him, to help the election.

Days after the election, Bush dumped Rumsfeld. Remember the shocked faces in Washington?

That’s Bush, showing his toughness by standing up to his party.


6 posted on 11/02/2010 5:02:32 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: DeweyCA
We need many more politicians like Dick Cheney. He’s always been a humble classy guy.

with an incredibly sharp mind... and quick wit...

7 posted on 11/02/2010 5:02:40 PM PDT by latina4dubya ( self-proclaimed tequila snob)
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To: Sub-Driver

NY Times’s other motive in reporting this is to show voters that O’Fartface will not be the first president in history to have considered dumping his veep before running for a second term.


8 posted on 11/02/2010 5:04:33 PM PDT by TXBlair (Clinton: 0%. Obama: 50%. I wonder how black our third "first black president" will be?! :))
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To: Sub-Driver

He hadn’t picked him to be a political asset? The fact the memo was out he lacked gravitas and they needed to shore up conservative base had nothing to do with Cheney being picked in 2000? And removing him and thus depressing that base in 2004 wasn’t to your political gain? Right Mr.President.


9 posted on 11/02/2010 5:05:07 PM PDT by Soul Seeker ( I was there when we had the numbers, but didn’t have the principles.---Jim that leans conservDeMin)
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To: TXBlair

“NY Times’s other motive in reporting this is to show voters that O’Fartface will not be the first president in history to have considered dumping his veep before running for a second term.”

Impressive - you’re right of course. The NYT obviously knows that Biden is history, but doesn’t think it necessary to let the country know that. Naa, why bother, he’s only the number 2 person in government.


10 posted on 11/02/2010 5:07:41 PM PDT by BobL (The whole point of being human is knowing when the party's over.)
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To: Sub-Driver

It would have also been nice to have dropped GWB from the 2004 ticekt.


11 posted on 11/02/2010 5:08:27 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Rush was right when he said America may survive Obama but not the Obama supporters.)
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To: Sub-Driver

The real issue with Dick Cheney has always been his health. He started having heart attacks at the age of 37, and has had five, as well as an assortment of other cardiovascular problems.

Truthfully, I never thought he would make it through his terms in office. For a time, there was a strong suggestion that he would retire, so that Bush could appoint Condoleeza Rice as VP, but that the Democrats in congress adamantly refused to let that happen. And since a replacement VP has to be approved by congress, it couldn’t happen.

But in his role as VP, Cheney was exemplary. He is likely the most effective VP the US has ever had.


12 posted on 11/02/2010 5:10:24 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Sub-Driver

Then who would he have had to kick Edward’s ass during their debate?


13 posted on 11/02/2010 5:19:40 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Sub-Driver

Advice from Rove, that ba$tard?


14 posted on 11/02/2010 5:26:06 PM PDT by Carley (VOTE AS IF YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT, BECAUSE IT DOES)
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To: Sub-Driver

Why is it an issue? The suggestion came from Cheney himself. As a president who listened to his confidant, Dubya listened to Cheney, considered it for a while, and decided that it was not a good advise.


15 posted on 11/02/2010 5:30:47 PM PDT by paudio (The big difference between 2010 and 1994 is me - Barrack Hussein 0bama)
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To: Sub-Driver

I like Cheney and I am glad Bush kept him.

I did have and still have some doubts regarding how much better we all might have been had he selected a viable candidate for 2008 much like Reagan had in Bush 1.

I would much prefer that some conservative VP taken the reins from Bush in 2008 and extended the era another 4-8 years. I think that could have happened with the right choice.

By closing that door, it did allow Bush and Cheney to stick to their guns more fiercely— which I think many Freepers might contest but I really believe. There was no effort by the two to play to the coy middle. They even let McCain and Palin run against them which is incredibly generous given how awesome the two were.

I still believe the Bush presidency may rival Reagan’s

I do wonder if there was any way to hand it off. I would even have gone for Cheney pairing with some young conservative VP. That would have been awesome and the ultimate heart attack for liberals.


16 posted on 11/02/2010 5:35:29 PM PDT by lonestar67 (I remember when unemployment was 4.7 percent)
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To: MountainDad

You’re reading my mind on that one.


17 posted on 11/02/2010 5:41:02 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (Look up "fat, unfunny, strident hag" in the dictionary and see a picture of Joy Behar.)
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To: MountainDad

A good start.


18 posted on 11/02/2010 8:43:38 PM PDT by Pelham (Islam, the mortal enemy of the free world)
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To: lonestar67

I liked Cheney, too...but I think he was the wrong pick for a second Bush term - and I have a very simple reason for that. Cheney didn’t want to run for the White House. This was a missed opportunity to get a fresh face on the big stage prior to the presidential election. We well may have had a different, better candidate than McCain running for president...and that may well have saved the country from the mistake of electing 0bama.


19 posted on 11/03/2010 5:55:01 AM PDT by AlaninSA
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