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Hard Data Supporting Fraudulent Activity in Nevada Election - ACTION NEEDED
<self> | 11/3/2010 | lexinom and Black_Shark

Posted on 11/03/2010 2:03:15 AM PDT by Lexinom

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To: FreeAtlanta

I was thinking the same thing.


51 posted on 11/03/2010 5:49:18 AM PDT by my small voice
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To: Lexinom; kristinn; Jim Robinson
Questions to answer: * Who are the right people to run with this? * Who holds those responsible for this accountable? * How is that done?

Ping

52 posted on 11/03/2010 5:56:41 AM PDT by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality: Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: WellyP

Now now, the Reids are good Mormons dontchaknow. They would never cheat at anything, right???


53 posted on 11/03/2010 6:03:21 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Lexinom
Unfortunately polls are not evidence. There is nothing there that would see the light of day in court.

There may be something in the Harrah's email flap, but outside of a rat confessing to voter fraud there's not much that can be done.

54 posted on 11/03/2010 6:03:37 AM PDT by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: Lexinom; All
Email Rush etc. Call in to Rush and Hannity etc.

Someone should investigate this obvious voter fraud and put those democrats/marxists in prison for voter fraud.

55 posted on 11/03/2010 6:10:46 AM PDT by rurgan (1 gov regulation on banks is now causing a recession by limiting lending to business)
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To: Chet 99

Cashell is an old windbag.


56 posted on 11/03/2010 6:24:28 AM PDT by SC_Pete
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To: Lexinom

Angle Camp: Not so fast

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/watercooler/2010/nov/3/angle-camp-not-so-fast/


57 posted on 11/03/2010 6:33:14 AM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
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To: Lexinom

The media including Fox are ignoing Harry’s fraud. No way his kid loses by 12 and he wins. Total BS. Total fraud in all the west coast states too.


58 posted on 11/03/2010 6:36:19 AM PDT by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: Lexinom

As I have said, one of the first things the new Republican House should do is investigate this election. We simply cannot tolerate cheating and fraud. If we do, what’s the point of having elections?


59 posted on 11/03/2010 7:13:42 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Class warfare is Obama's thing.)
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To: Lexinom

Statistics are nice but not, imo, probable cause. There were similar issues in ‘94 when the R’s took the House, the D’s whined that polling did not match vote tallies. I don’t recall any R agreeing with them back then.

I’ll be convinced when the cops bust a secret ballot-marking “factory” or get a confession from a participant in fraud.


60 posted on 11/03/2010 7:16:46 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Lexinom

I am sick and tired of people complaining about fraud, and not doing anything. If you want a clean election next time, you have to do something now, and keep the issue fresh.


61 posted on 11/03/2010 7:22:00 AM PDT by popdonnelly (Class warfare is Obama's thing.)
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To: Lexinom

Polls are not hard data, they are samples that are subject to easy manipulation.


62 posted on 11/03/2010 7:27:25 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: Lexinom

My book, HARRY: Money Mob & Influence could have made a big difference, but was shut out by the local media. Nevada is just plain corrupt.


63 posted on 11/03/2010 7:39:03 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (HARRY: Money Mob & Influence (See my Expose on Reid on amazon.com written by me!))
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To: Lexinom

Polling data? I wouldn’t trust polls as far as I can throw a pollster.


64 posted on 11/03/2010 7:40:15 AM PDT by King Greymung
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To: nikos1121
Yeah, how does that happen? People voting "none of the above"?

Yep. When that's an option, many voters find themselves looking at the ballot, think, "eh, to heck with both of those clowns", and vote NOTA.

65 posted on 11/03/2010 7:40:17 AM PDT by King Greymung
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To: Lexinom

Call this number and ask GOP attorneys...they are on stand by to answer questions and give advise on voter fraud. 1-888-404-2863 or this one 1-888-775-8117


66 posted on 11/03/2010 7:45:10 AM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: Lexinom
The problem with you analysis is that "Margin of Error" is not actually a measure of accuracy.

"Margin of Error" in a poll, corresponds to the uncertainty in a statistical result, assuming that the sample population is representative of the whole population. It's mainly a function of the sample size.

(The actual explanation of MOE is more detailed than that, but that's the general idea.)

If the sample population is not representative, then MOE is not useful as a measure of accuracy.

Here's the question, then: what methods were used to sample the voters in Nevada's polls? What sort of process bias could explain the consistency of the wrong results?

What you're really seeing, is probably a failure of methods used for telephone-based samples (all polling organizations use essentially the same techniques).

Is there a law in NV that limits calls to land-lines or cell phones? Is there a class of voters who are unlikely to answer their phones (e.g., casino workers?).

It's probably not evidence of fraud, though.

67 posted on 11/03/2010 7:55:13 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Lexinom

The rats appear to have stolen an election which was not close enough to steal. The only question is what are we going to do about it.


68 posted on 11/03/2010 7:55:37 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: Lexinom
Obama might have had a million people phone banking into Nevada... Because I joined his website last year I was receiving text messages telling me over and over:

1) Vote for Obama and why
2) text "PLACE" to find where to vote
3) text "CALL" to ask voters to get to the polls

If you reply to the text message with "CALL" you instantly got a phone call from an area code 202 number (example: 202-656-9984) with a voice recording. The voice recording told you really quick how to phone bank. Then kept calling places in Nevada. Obama might have had a million people across the country phone banking in Nevada.. By the way, for the last month I kept getting text messages and phone calls about volunteering for my local democrat to put up signs and phone bank. Republicans don't have a chance next election if they don't implement something similar.
69 posted on 11/03/2010 8:10:33 AM PDT by Democrats hate too much
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To: Lexinom

Right you are! The time to do more then bitch is upon us. Our electoral process must be made error and fraud free. It’s going to be hard to do nationally with AG Holder but I hope it can be addressed locally. Our local system of ID verification, even neighbor to neighbor, appears to be fraud free in terms of voter eligibility but don’t know how the paper ballots/machine counting is protected.


70 posted on 11/03/2010 8:24:50 AM PDT by mcshot (I believe he was born in Kenya - YouTube "Not Natural Born - Truth Matters")
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To: All

By my count there were 40k+ more total votes for the Senate race than there were for the governor’s race or any of the other state offices. What would account for this?


71 posted on 11/03/2010 8:30:38 AM PDT by wolfman
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To: nikos1121
I’m looking at the desparity between the no of votes for governor and the number cast for senate race.

Gov - 716,528
AG - 704,331
SoS - 703,512
Lt Gov - 703,494
Treas - 700,915
Cont - 697,618

Senate - 719,830

Margin - 40,659

http://elections.nytimes.com/2010/results/nevada

72 posted on 11/03/2010 8:37:58 AM PDT by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: Lexinom

Why can’t the lawyers for the Republican party file suit to have these machines impounded???


73 posted on 11/03/2010 8:41:17 AM PDT by blondee123 (NO MORE HOAX & CHAINS, VOTE TEAPARTY!)
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To: Lexinom

I agree that Reid stole this election illegally. Just asking a Corporation (Casino) to insist it’s employees appear at polls and vote for Reid is illegal. There needs to be a Republican lawsuit file to investigate Reid, SEIU and the Voting Machines.....it should not be allowed to stand!


74 posted on 11/03/2010 8:57:18 AM PDT by Kackikat (There is no such thing as a free lunch, because someone paid, somewhere.)
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To: wtc911
One poll or two polls may be off, manipulated, yes. But SEVEN POLLS over a long period and all in general agreement? I'm sorry, that stretches the bounds of incredulity.

Another member has brought out the excellent point that there is a 17,000 vote disparity between the total # of votes for Papa Reid and Junior Reid. Sorry, 17,000?

I'm sorry, this stinks to high heaven and combine it with the sudden $1M cash infusion the day before - too late to buy advertising.

75 posted on 11/03/2010 8:59:44 AM PDT by Lexinom
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To: WellyP

If Harry REID’S son is involved in the Voting Machines, as well as SEIU, then those voting machines need to be collected, examined as a criminal act. It was a conflict of interest for the son to be involved, period.


76 posted on 11/03/2010 9:00:01 AM PDT by Kackikat (There is no such thing as a free lunch, because someone paid, somewhere.)
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To: Lexinom

FRAUD is a crime, and if there is one conservative sheriff or Police Chief in that district, and one vote can be proven fraudalent, then can’t those voting machines be taken as evidence for examination by forensics? Where does Nevada Election Laws stand on this, and on the criminal justice aspect of voter fraud. What would it take to get a criminal case going, if there is fraud?


77 posted on 11/03/2010 9:03:02 AM PDT by Kackikat (There is no such thing as a free lunch, because someone paid, somewhere.)
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To: popdonnelly
I'm sure most of you have heard of the group in TX that started TrueTheVote after witnessing voter fraud in the 2008 election. I wanted to volunteer this year since I figured I could do some of the computer work from home. They were only focusing on a few local TX counties this time around, but have plans on helping others nationwide in the future I read somewhere. I would think that means they will share how they systematically went through and found significant fraud including multiple registrations of same person, non citizen registrations, and vacant lots and halfway houses being used as home address of multiple people.

Of course now they are being sued for finding the fraud—by George Soros funded groups. Gee whiz, who'd ah thunk old George would be interested in this? That man is worse than my closet man nightmares as a child and believe me closet man was scary as all get out. I'm in my fifties and still won't go to sleep with a closet door open! :)

The unfounded lawsuits aren't going to work, but will tie up their time, cost money and attempt to discredit the group. They can pass on to others how to start the search(I think they started with homes that had a high number of registered voters), and what they have learned by trial and error. If FR had a group working on voter rolls in the most questionable districts you know we could make a dent in the fraud. We can't wait for government to do it because it never gets done.

Here's their website http://www.truethevote.org/

fill out the form and see what happens.

78 posted on 11/03/2010 9:04:31 AM PDT by Reb Raider
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To: Kackikat

I don’t know the answers to that but those are important questions, and why I posted this thread. Any NV Freepers know, or know where to find out?


79 posted on 11/03/2010 9:07:32 AM PDT by Lexinom
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To: SeattleBruce

NEVADA ELECTION LAWS

http://www.leg.state.nv.us/nrs/NRS-293.html

Just click on blue numbers at left for more information by category.
If they can find some voter FRAUD, it could be a criminal case of Voter Fraud depending on Nevada law, and then the voting machines could be seized as evidence and examined. Were the machines rigged before the vote? Are there any conservatives in law enforcement in that district?


80 posted on 11/03/2010 9:14:00 AM PDT by Kackikat (There is no such thing as a free lunch, because someone paid, somewhere.)
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To: r9etb
Look at the sample size of polls and the control group of accurate polls for other races. If it were just one poll that had her winning then your point would hold merit. We're talking about seven polls, though, from different firms and probably slight variations in methodologies that were all in agreement in having Angle up in this race.
81 posted on 11/03/2010 9:20:10 AM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Lexinom

Here is a link to NEVADA ELECTION LAW FELONIES...
http://www.leg.state.nv.us/nrs/NRS-293.html#NRS293Sec755

Any citizen who can find an election crime would be wise to speak to the law enforcement leaders to bring an arrest, and seize the equipement as evidence. I’m not from Nevada.


82 posted on 11/03/2010 9:20:49 AM PDT by Kackikat (There is no such thing as a free lunch, because someone paid, somewhere.)
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To: Reb Raider

Here is link to Nevada Election Law felonies:

http://www.leg.state.nv.us/nrs/NRS-293.html#NRS293Sec755

There should be an investigation, and if there is ANY VOTER FRAUD, that can be proven, such as illegal voter, voting twice or voting not under proper name, it may force law enforcement to act. A petition to investigate could help, if any evidence arises.


83 posted on 11/03/2010 9:25:18 AM PDT by Kackikat (There is no such thing as a free lunch, because someone paid, somewhere.)
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To: Lexinom

Can anything be done after a candidate concedes?

Typically with the ‘Rats, it seems that when they steal a race, they REALLY steal a race.

Why? To avoid recounts and closer looks which could expose their shenanigans.


84 posted on 11/03/2010 9:30:26 AM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL (****************************Stop Continental Drift**)
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To: Kackikat
Great work!

We have, from your digging:

NRS 293.750 Removal or destruction of election supplies or equipment.

NRS 293.755 Tampering or interfering with certain election equipment or computer programs used to count ballots; report of violation to district attorney.

NRS 293.760 Alteration, defacement or removal of posted results of votes cast.

NRS 293.770 Refusal of person sworn by election board to answer questions.

NRS 293.780 Voting more than once at same election.

NRS 293.790 Offer to vote by person whose vote has been rejected.

NRS 293.800 Acts concerning registration of voters; violations of laws governing elections; crimes by public officers.

NRS 293.805 Compensation for registration of voters based upon number of voters or voters of a particular party registered.

85 posted on 11/03/2010 9:32:26 AM PDT by Lexinom
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL
They had to steal this one. A victory by someone so closely identified with the Tea Party would have been devastating. The removal of Obama's security blanket Harry Reid would have been devastating.

Anyone following this race based on polling data from MULTIPLE polls from MULTIPLE firms expected Angle to win this.

Angle did win this in an objective sense of legal citizen votes.

If I lived in Las Vegas I'd be all over doing an investigation on the ground instead of typing messages on FR. I'd be in contact with the Angle campaign's attorneys and would come up with a way to offer a reward to anyone with hard evidence of fraud.

86 posted on 11/03/2010 9:37:29 AM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Lexinom
Look at the sample size of polls and the control group of accurate polls for other races. If it were just one poll that had her winning then your point would hold merit. We're talking about seven polls, though, from different firms and probably slight variations in methodologies that were all in agreement in having Angle up in this race.

I'm still going to to blame the sampling methods, as opposed to calling out "fraud."

At root, the methodologies aren't that different, really: to collect most (not all) of the data, the polling organizations have all still got to call folks on the phone.

So the question is: is there, in Nevada, some systemic factor that affects who you can call, and who is likely to answer, that was not accounted-for in the polls? For example, is there a "no-call list" law that favors land-lines over cell phones, or vice versa? Is there a particular demographic of voters that somehow are less likely to be reached by telephone?

I'm willing to bet that the answer to the poll discrepancy lies in that sort of phenomenon, rather than fraud.

An interesting and highly relevant example is the famous Literary Digest poll of 1936, that predicted Landon would defeat Roosevelt in a landslide.

The sampling methodology was very carefully constructed, but the problem was that the sample population was selected mainly from automobile registration and phone books. The surveys were mailed out, and results were drawn from those who returned their surveys, and the response rate was low. The combination of these three, led to a disastrously wrong prediction.

Pollsters have been trying to deal with similar problems in recent years. Lots of people refuse to participate, and many hang up when they recognize that tell-tale pause between answering and the time when the pollster hits the line.

87 posted on 11/03/2010 9:50:09 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Lexinom

I’m not saying that nothing dastardly took place. I am saying that poll numbers do not under any circumstances constitute hard facts.


88 posted on 11/03/2010 10:16:01 AM PDT by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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To: r9etb
Why the disparity, then, against the backdrop of the relative accuracy of the polling in other races? Surely they, too, would contain one or more of these additional factors. Why just Nevada? For your theory to hold up we'd need to compare previous Nevada races and see if their outcomes, likewise, deviated widely from the preceding polling data.

My theory: Fraud was indeed committed on a large scale in a few high profile, hand-picked races. For political reasons, those who were most harshly attacked and ridiculed could not be allowed to win. Hence the $1 million cash infusion to Reid race on Monday - too late to buy advertising time. What was that money for, then, and where did it go?

89 posted on 11/03/2010 10:20:15 AM PDT by Lexinom
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To: wtc911

No, but we need to use the language. The Left has been doing this for years. Ayn Rand said something to the effect that whoever controls the language controls the culture. It is true something is not “hard” if there’s a 0.000001% chance it may be wrong, but for all intents and purposes, it is hard, if that makes any sense. We cannot afford to continue being wimps.


90 posted on 11/03/2010 10:22:41 AM PDT by Lexinom
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To: BossLady

It kills me how Reno folks could vote Republican across the board for all other offices, but they didn’t for US Senator.


91 posted on 11/03/2010 10:33:07 AM PDT by sf4dubya (I rebelled against my parents by becoming a conservative)
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To: wtc911

I believe that Lexinom is correct and while Polls would not hold in a court of Law they certaintly would get people thinking. If multiple polls were this far off in NV and not other states then that implies something isnt right. In the latest poll by Mason-Dixon, they predicted that Heck would win the right to represent Nevada in the House. Heck won. The other recent polls from Nevada were accurate, why not this one?


92 posted on 11/03/2010 10:42:26 AM PDT by Black_Shark
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To: sf4dubya; Loyal Sedition

I found this comment informative:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2620289/posts?page=61#61

“Another seat we could have won with any other Republican.”

Not true.

“any other Republican” would probably have lost by an even larger margin.

Dingy Harry lost in 15 of 17 counties.

He ALWAYS wins in the same two counties, Clark and Washoe, the only two (liberal dominated) counties he really makes any effort to help.

He has enabled Clark County to grow beyond it’s rational limits.
He has contrived to steal water from rural Nevada counties for the sole benefit of Clark County.

He has “sold” Nevada’s public land to developers so that Clark County continues to grow, enlarging his true base and enriching himself in the process.

He has steered grants and funding to Washoe County (Reno) while doing virtually NOTHING for the rural counties.

By virtue of these shenanigans he virtually owns the vote in Clark and Washoe.

Combined with the MSM bias and “republican” support this race shows he is in for life, probably less than another full term.

61 posted on Wednesday, November 03, 2010 3:14:29 AM by Loyal Sedition
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93 posted on 11/03/2010 10:43:56 AM PDT by thouworm
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To: sf4dubya
It kills me how Reno folks could vote Republican across the board for all other offices, but they didn’t for US Senator.

Perhaps the good people of Reno felt that Sharron Angle was not for them.

Sure, you could blame Reno for that .... but maybe Ms. Angle is also part of the explanation.

94 posted on 11/03/2010 10:49:14 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Lexinom

There were a LOT of voters disenfranchised. The ones I’m most irate about are out troops, who were denied a right to vote by states like my own, NY, which didn’t send them their ballots at all. This is NOT the way our country was meant to be and it is something that has to be addressed from every angle. AND we have to make sure that people who are voting are actually citizens and have the right to vote.


95 posted on 11/03/2010 11:57:46 AM PDT by Bookwoman ("...and I am unanimous in this...")
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To: chilltherats

“The rats started busing illegals into vote at secret polling places since the beginning of early voting. Most were bussed from the casinos and hotels where they work. Pubs should have been watching for this but they didn’t even notice it for four days, and then all they did was file a complaint with the SOS. Then their were the machines switching votes to Reid. They should have gone to court to have those machines seized immediately. They did nothing.”

How in the world can these things go on under all of our collective noses? Even if Reid is finally declared the winner, we need to set examples of this fraud up on pedastals for the all to see...just to see how desperate for power these socialist monger moralizers are.


96 posted on 11/03/2010 1:00:51 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (Yesterday we voted-TODAY we fight against vote fraud! Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chron. 7:14!)
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To: chilltherats

Here are the propagandists:
http://www.lvrj.com/news/reid-holds-off-challenger-angle-106597348.html
“No substantial complaints of Election Day irregularities were reported to the secretary of state’s office, although a complaint about last week’s early get out the vote efforts by Las Vegas casino companies backing Reid was filed with the U.S. Department of Justice.”

Didn’t LVRJ endorse Angle? Wow, I will hold my breath waiting on Holder to dig into that complaint against Harrah’s...


97 posted on 11/03/2010 1:05:06 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (Yesterday we voted-TODAY we fight against vote fraud! Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chron. 7:14!)
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To: SeattleBruce

More from the LVRJ article:
http://www.lvrj.com/news/reid-holds-off-challenger-angle-106597348.html

“The key to Reid’s victory Tuesday, however, goes beyond his get-out-the-vote effort this year and dates back to 2002 when he began to rebuild the state Democratic Party from the ground.

His effort culminated in 2008 when the Democrats registered thousands of new voters, giving them a 100,000 registered voter edge over Republicans and helping Obama win the state, thanks mostly to first time voters, Hispanics, blacks and other minority voters that Reid won again this time.

The Democrats still have 60,000 more registered voters than Republicans now and Hispanics organizers registered 10,000 more Latinos in 2010, making them an electoral force.”
+++++++++++++++++++++++

I’m sure all those 10,000 additional voters were totally up and up! Voter registration, validation, proof of ID etc., motor voter laws, instant registration laws without proof of ID, are COMPLETELY OUT OF CONTROL IN MANY states.

Fair elections - dealing with this election FRAUD must be a key focus of the Tea Parties into the future.

Our fight for the soul of this nation has only just begun..


98 posted on 11/03/2010 1:09:37 PM PDT by SeattleBruce (Yesterday we voted-TODAY we fight against vote fraud! Tea Party like it's 1773! Pray 2 Chron. 7:14!)
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To: SeattleBruce

They do this at every election. The pubs do nothing.


99 posted on 11/03/2010 1:46:17 PM PDT by chilltherats (He was born with a roaring voice, and it had the trick of inflaming half-wits against their betters)
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To: Lexinom

Let me know what I can do, but i’m east coast. Do you have a local conservative radio show that can ask voters to call in, if they hear or know about any election violations.

Find out who was at the polls for the Republican side monitering what was going on, and see if they saw anything.

Maybe an ad in local news to ask voters if they saw or know of any irregularities in election.

Check names against death certificates in that county for registered voters, to see if any dead people voted.

Best Wishes, and I am praying for something to be brought out into the open.


100 posted on 11/03/2010 2:00:51 PM PDT by Kackikat (There is no such thing as a free lunch, because someone paid, somewhere.)
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