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'I blame Karl Rove'
STG News ^ | 11/3/10 | William Way, Jr.

Posted on 11/04/2010 4:30:30 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta

There is a singular event that shoved the Republican Senate car over the cliff.

That event was the primary victory of Christine O'Donnell. This morning she used a phrase that is right on the money. That description is "Republican Cannibalism."

I personally hold Karl Rove to blame, followed closely by Senator John Cornyn. Rove is an establishment Progressive Republican of the first order.

Following O'Donnell's message of values victory in Delaware, Rove started slinging mud in her direction because he realized she was a woman that couldn't be bought & sold on a D.C. street corner.

It was Rove who almost exclusively undermined an untested Republican. When challenged, he became entrenched, making it a media story.

Coming out of a surprise primary victory, everyone would obviously be questioning O’Donnell’s candidacy.

It's the "Man Bites Dog" story. Rove turned an opportunity to help create an up-and-coming political star into much less.

The bottom feeder Rove chose for his personal aggrandizement to put blood in the water. The sharks had a feeding frenzy.

The result was that yet another "Traditional Values Candidate" was beaten by her own political party, & the momentum of several other races was slowed.

It gave Reid & others the chance to further paint traditional values candidates as kooks. The Republican cannibalism resulted in the Senate leadership failure to get behind Republican nominees.

The cannibalism by a self-professed REPUBLICAN strategist, wrapped up is his own glory led to lost momentum by MIller, Fiorina (albeit her real defeat was the unfortunate infection), Buck, Angle & Rossi.

His poor choices contributed to a decay of no less than 15 percent-point in Delaware. Had Delaware been advocated by Rove, rather than diminished, today we would be looking at a three-seat Senate majority, & a Republican Governor in CA.

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1 posted on 11/04/2010 4:30:32 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

I could not agree more.


2 posted on 11/04/2010 4:32:35 AM PDT by libbylu
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Most everything I’ve ever heard from Rove is not about Republican/Conservative ideology, but about winning.

I don’t know Rove’s true beliefs, but I do believe he is motivated primarily by his drive to win.

He believed that O’Donnell couldn’t/wouldn’t win. I would have voted for her, but I also agreed with him.

Voting for O’Donnell in the primary may have won a battle, but it lost a war. (in a metaphorical sense)


3 posted on 11/04/2010 4:34:23 AM PDT by RangerM (How do we know that man doesn't keep the Earth from freezing?)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

I do nor disagree with this article, but someone should also be called to task for coming up with her first major TV ad, “I am not a witch”. Compare this to the way way Rand Paul handled his similar situation.


5 posted on 11/04/2010 4:36:05 AM PDT by Recon Dad ( "Don't forget, incoming fire has the right of way")
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Do you really believe Rove has that much influence? You don’t think people can look at a candidate and make up their own minds? O’Donnell wasn’t a good candidate. Simple as that.


6 posted on 11/04/2010 4:37:04 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

I also agree...I remember so many FReepers repeating the term,
“Rove, you magnificent bastard”...
I never bought it, but he is certainly the BASTARD now, but nothing magnificent for our side.


7 posted on 11/04/2010 4:37:07 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Its clear President Bush won by those incredibly narrow margins in spite of Karl Rove and his juvenile white ink pad and 4th grade mathematical alleged wizardry! Now its clear that Karl Rove was to being the Lead Political Strategist for President Bush as was Scott McCllellan the Lead Press Secretary, both two thoroughly Incompitent Nitwits thay President Bush felt sorry for and was bound to by some strange Loyalty! Darth Vader would have vaporized both to Siberia in two nanoseconds! For You’al in Rio Linda,
thats a respectful reference to a truly great Leader, Dick Cheney!


8 posted on 11/04/2010 4:37:57 AM PDT by True Republican Patriot (May GOD Continue to BLESS Our Greatest President :George W. Bush!!)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Do we all have a better understanding of RNC Chair,Michael Steele’s struggles; trying to deal with the established GOP and the up & coming TEA movement candidates?

Upon reflection - he was herding cats AND chickens in a basement.

Free at last!!!!!


9 posted on 11/04/2010 4:39:10 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair; man's surrender. Laughter; God's redemption.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
This kind of internecine squabbling will neutralize the Conservative, hard-won victories.

It has to stop.

10 posted on 11/04/2010 4:39:27 AM PDT by SMARTY ("..discover what your enemy fears most by observing the means he uses to frighten you")
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To: ilovesarah2012
Do you really believe Rove has that much influence? You don’t think people can look at a candidate and make up their own minds? O’Donnell wasn’t a good candidate. Simple as that.

Bullseye.

11 posted on 11/04/2010 4:39:38 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 ( Mm, your tears are so yummy and sweet!Oh, the tears of unfathomable sadness! Mm-yummy! --E. Cartman)
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To: libbylu

I agree. I really dislike that fat slob.


12 posted on 11/04/2010 4:41:05 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Let’s be real....Castle had a better chance for the seat.


13 posted on 11/04/2010 4:42:57 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: libbylu

Can you imagine Carville doing something like this to his own party?


14 posted on 11/04/2010 4:43:03 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Sacajaweau
Let’s be real....Castle had a better chance for the seat.

That's quite possible, but once he lost, it was time to get behind the candidate who won.

15 posted on 11/04/2010 4:45:12 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: Darkwolf377

O’Donnell came across as a young kid. She might have won a House seat but a Senate seat? Not.


16 posted on 11/04/2010 4:45:47 AM PDT by Average Al
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To: OneVike

Ping


17 posted on 11/04/2010 4:47:06 AM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta
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To: RangerM

It was personal, Karl was insulted because he couldn’t talk the tea party into not endorsing her, and Coats was his buddy. He was venomous in his rage against her on primary night. A first class temper tantrum. Karl trashed COD, then he trashed the tea party last week, then he trashed Sarah. I turn the channel now if he comes on, just like I do with Shep and Bambi.


18 posted on 11/04/2010 4:48:47 AM PDT by libbylu
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To: RangerM

Agree.
O’Donnell was not the best candidate to come down the pike but Rove clearly did not help.
Time for him to go...


19 posted on 11/04/2010 4:51:39 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: RangerM
Voting for O’Donnell in the primary may have won a battle, but it lost a war. (in a metaphorical sense)

I understand your views, but I've come to a point where I would rather have a liberal Democrat in a seat than a liberal Republican. I guess I've seen too many instances where moderate Republicans become the tail that wags the dog. Even if it costs us seats, better to have a Republican Party I can depend on, with fewer seats, than a Republican Party in the majority that ignores my conservative views.

20 posted on 11/04/2010 4:52:28 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Darkwolf377
Bullseye.

I believe you've misspelled it.

21 posted on 11/04/2010 4:52:49 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: RangerM

Having read Rove’s book I am convinced he is as much of an empty suit at the Obamao.

After watching him on TV during the run up to the election it’s clear that he has no core values at all.


22 posted on 11/04/2010 4:53:19 AM PDT by Carley (WE SAW NOVEMBER FROM OUR HOUSE)
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To: libbylu

Rove didn’t make O’Donnell and he didn’t break her. She became a fruitloop all by herself and has only to look in the mirror to see the cause of her defeat. She’s most probably a kind and sweet woman but she is completely unqualified to do much of anything as far as I can tell. She needs to get off the political stage now. Maybe she can become a regular again on the Bill Maher Show. For that, I’m certain she is qualified.


23 posted on 11/04/2010 4:53:25 AM PDT by Slehn (Resolve)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Of course not! They get behind all of their nefarious candidates.


24 posted on 11/04/2010 4:53:42 AM PDT by libbylu
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To: All

Politics is a science and Rove is a numbers guy. No matter how they shook and stirred them up, Castle was their best opportunity to snag the seat. If I lived in DE I would have voted for Christine, or Castle or any Republican because of the symbolic importance of winning the seat that Biden held.
Imagine winning Obama’s, Biden’s and Byrd’s seat after taking Kennedy’s.. That right there would have been reason to go on a celebration bender.

We might have to learn the hard way that just because we the ideological, involved and strongly opinionated part of the electorate want something, does not make it so. In the end, we need to vote for the most conservative candidate that can win. The next election is too important to impale ourselves on ideological purity. That’s just the reality of it.


25 posted on 11/04/2010 4:54:35 AM PDT by newnhdad (The longest of journeys begins with one step.)
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To: SMARTY

I am a peon, nobody cares what I think. Karl could use some lessons in moderating his language though.


26 posted on 11/04/2010 4:54:53 AM PDT by libbylu
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
I had long come to the Churchillian conclusion that "he's a bastard, but he's our bastard," but when Karl Rove deliberately stuck a shiv into Christine O'Donnell's chances - and remained pleased with himself - I could only conclude that he probably hasn't been "ours" for some time. He is someone I would rather have in front of me than behind me, to put it mildly.

That the Democrats are able to successfully field candidates far less appealing and/or able than COD is, if nothing else, an indicator that she is not far off in remarking about "Republican cannibalism." At this point, however, Christine simply needs to step back and let people like Rove wallow in their own crapulence. Time heals all wounds and wounds all heels.

Mr. niteowl77

27 posted on 11/04/2010 4:55:49 AM PDT by niteowl77 (I don't mind them stewing in their own juices, but I object to them stewing me in their own juices.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

I blame having a crappy nominee. Rove just had the audacity to point it out.

Get over it.


28 posted on 11/04/2010 4:56:08 AM PDT by A.Hun (Common sense is no longer common.)
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To: Average Al

Look at her wikipedia entry. She has exactly one thing in her background that indicated why she was worthy of support—she is a Christian.

That’s it. After endlessly and properly talking about Barack Obama having no qualifications for his job, we were supporting this shallow, uninformed person (her interviews showed she had no grasp of policy, none) who can’t pay her bills, is being sued for financial irregularities, sued a conservative organization because she didn’t get a promotion, hasn’t paid her staff, uses campaign money to pay her rent, and has accomplished NOTHING that leads one to think she could run a 7-11.

I’ve been saying this for a day, and I have no problem criticizing her now that the election is over. She was a horrible candidate who has no business thinking she is qualified for the senate just because she has nothing else going on in her life. And we have no business supporting such an empty candidate when we’re always going on about how we’re different from the dems, we have standards.

You’re right, she came across as a young kid, and whined about Karl Rove. I look at Palin, and Bachman, and Kelly Ayote—accomplished, smart, articulate women who are starting to forge a new public identity for this party, and then I look at O’Donnell.

Forget what Karl Rove said on one TV show—I blame O’Donnell, whose foolishness provided HUNDREDS of hours of television mockery of Republicans.

I think it can be argued that she did a lot more damage than Rove by being a constant reminder of media cliches about conservatives. Are any of those bitching about Rove have the intellectual honesty to consider that she may have cost us control of the senate?


29 posted on 11/04/2010 4:56:30 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 ( Mm, your tears are so yummy and sweet!Oh, the tears of unfathomable sadness! Mm-yummy! --E. Cartman)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

It was WRONG for Rove to attack the WINNER
of the primary. Period.

There is NO other interpretation.

It was HIS immoral backstabbing that outed him
for exactly who he is and for whom he worked
this GOP and TParty loss.


30 posted on 11/04/2010 4:56:30 AM PDT by Diogenesis ('Freedom is the light of all sentient beings.' - Optimus Prime)
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To: Recon Dad

While most folks hated that ad, and focused on the “witch” aspect, I liked the ad.
“I’m you” seemed pretty powerful to me, but unfortunately the damage had already been done by faux conservatives like Rover.
Rush often compares the comments of liberal Democrats to the comments of terrorists, and demonstrates how alike they are. Seems Establishment Republicans sounded a lot like liberal hatemongers to me.
Take away the silly voice and you wouldn’t have known Rover from Carville.


31 posted on 11/04/2010 4:57:55 AM PDT by PalmettoMason (It's easy being a menace to society when half the population is happy being sheep.)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta
That event was the primary victory of Christine O'Donnell.

The primary victory of Christine O'Donnell should have started an avalanche of support for Christine, starting with Castle and Rove. Castle's sore loser behavior and Rove's insults demonstrated a lack of integrity and hypocrisy of the Republican leadership. If you agree to rules and hold primaries you should respect the results. Otherwise the Republicans are no better than the evil Democrats.

The Alaska Senator race had similar lack of integrity by Lisa Murkowski. The Republican Party needs to repent also. I find their behavior disgusting and disappointing.

32 posted on 11/04/2010 4:58:06 AM PDT by olezip
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To: libbylu

I am ashamed of Karl Rove, he should be ashamed of himself!
Cannibalism is the proper term, but really it’s the “cocktail party” vs.
us. They need to go. Let them vote Democrat..
Who needs them?


33 posted on 11/04/2010 4:58:33 AM PDT by acapesket
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To: Darkwolf377

Blame the victim, Darkwolf377?
Every single week, Gov. Palin and C. ODonnell took on Obama and the corrupt DNC.
Meanwhile, Rove attacked the GOP-election-chosen candidate.

She would have been Senator TODAY (not January 2011)
had not backstabber Rove attacked.

34 posted on 11/04/2010 4:58:52 AM PDT by Diogenesis ('Freedom is the light of all sentient beings.' - Optimus Prime)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

I could not agree less.


35 posted on 11/04/2010 5:00:09 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: A.Hun

Karl is establishment and working for the establishment. He did a better job of trashing COD than any dem. My point is he could have been professional instead of showing how hurt his feelings were than the tea party had not listened to him, and his good buddy had last the primary to her. I resent that I had to look into his soul.


36 posted on 11/04/2010 5:02:29 AM PDT by libbylu
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

For CR’s blunder Rush should withdraw his ‘architect’ moniker.


37 posted on 11/04/2010 5:02:34 AM PDT by exPBRrat (taht sure is)
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Rove is single-handedly responsible for the Republicans’ failure to win control of the Senate, and he must be called to account for it.

This is really the biggest story of this election: how Rove played the Useful Idiot role, and was a complete tool of the Democrats.

As Ann Coulter has said, they don’t call the Republicans “The Stupid Party” for nothing.


38 posted on 11/04/2010 5:02:57 AM PDT by motor_racer (That which you manifest is before you.)
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To: Diogenesis

Cornyn supported Murkowski in Alaska also. When the vote is close, I wonder how much their influence & money were responsible for the Miller loss. Bites my butt but I have witnessed the corruption in the Republican Party up here in Alaska for years.


39 posted on 11/04/2010 5:03:24 AM PDT by Eska
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To: ilovesarah2012
Do you really believe Rove has that much influence? You don’t think people can look at a candidate and make up their own minds? O’Donnell wasn’t a good candidate. Simple as that.
As much as I detest Rove -- and I detest him a great deal, for many reasons, not just the O'Donnell issue (though that's a biggie) -- I have to agree with you.

How many DELAWARE voters said "well, I have to go with Karl Rove on this one"? Who would ever say that about Rove on any issue? How many people in America consider Rove their intellectual guide to anything? (Zero? One? Three?)

Same with NV voters.

Both those states just have too many liberals.

And both those states, unfortunately, had R candidates who couldn't win over enough of those liberals to win.

40 posted on 11/04/2010 5:05:26 AM PDT by samtheman
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To: Sacajaweau

We no longer want RINOs. I don’t care if he would have won. Let the Democrat fail. They always will. RINOs just lie their way through life. I guess you fall for lies.


41 posted on 11/04/2010 5:06:07 AM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: Diogenesis
Blame the victim, Darkwolf377?

Give it up. If she were any kind of candidate, she would have won.

This total fantasy that Rove's stupid outburst somehow MADE the democrats run against her is utterly absurd.

Somehow Sarah Palin has become a kingmaker while the entire establishment has treated her with disdain at best. But O'Donnell was this incredible awesome senator-in-waiting, but one comment destroyed her?

Ridiculous.

Every single week, Gov. Palin and C. ODonnell took on Obama and the corrupt DNC.

She took on nothing. She has accomplished nothing, has no credibility, can't even manage her own finances as a single woman. Stop linking her to Palin, a far more powerful force in this race than Rove, who couldn't help her. Palin is outstanding and accomplished, O'Donnell is a poor victim.

She would have been Senator TODAY (not January 2011) had not backstabber Rove attacked.

Yeah--she lost by double digits because she was an incredible, outstanding candidate--who's already lost TWICE BEFORE by double digits--because Karl Rove made a mean comment.

Your use of a superhero picture shows the problem with those who become cheerleaders for personalities instead of thoughtful conservatives who aren't fooled by TV images and celebrity foolishness.

She lost, again, and she will go away while the real, accomplished candidates who made it on their achievments will assume the offices they earned without whining.

42 posted on 11/04/2010 5:08:56 AM PDT by Darkwolf377 ( Mm, your tears are so yummy and sweet!Oh, the tears of unfathomable sadness! Mm-yummy! --E. Cartman)
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To: Diogenesis

I don’t know if she would have won, but it certainly is possible. There is absolutely no excuse for Rove’s attacks. It was purely a matter of ego. He’s never been all that good. George W. Bush would have won comfortable victories without him. With him, he was barely elected both times.


43 posted on 11/04/2010 5:11:46 AM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: Darkwolf377

Christine was not the best candidate, thats for sure, but Rove should have shut his mouth until after the election, period. His criticism would have come across as much more constructive. Now, the haters will reject what he says, as good as his advice might be. He should have been the bigger and smarter man.


44 posted on 11/04/2010 5:13:19 AM PDT by Paradox (Democrats new Motto: Vini, Vidi, Lewinski!)
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To: samtheman

When Rove went on the attack, it turned into a media feeding frenzy.

There’s absolutely no defense for his behavior.


45 posted on 11/04/2010 5:14:02 AM PDT by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: RangerM

If Rove was just being pregmatic, he would have said I don’t believe she is the best candidate we could have fielded there, period. No, he went beyond that in an across the board full attack on her. It was beyond the pale, bitter and petty. Coons has to run again in 2012, let’s hear what he has to say about whom should run against him, Castle, the RINO? The results are the results of course but does anyone think they were not worried as they sent both the boy wonder and his comical side kick into De where they have a 2 to 1 advantage in party membership, to try to ensure they held the commic’s senate seat.


46 posted on 11/04/2010 5:14:32 AM PDT by Mouton
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To: Dr. Scarpetta

Tokyo Rove sunk O’Donnell, plain and simple! In one fell swoop, I lost nearly all respect for Tokyo Rove!


47 posted on 11/04/2010 5:14:37 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Darkwolf377

Well said.


48 posted on 11/04/2010 5:15:47 AM PDT by Average Al
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To: Darkwolf377

...And we have no business supporting such an empty candidate when we’re always going on about how we’re different from the dems, we have standards....

Just so, if the Tea Party and those aligned with it want to be a long-lasting movement that is taken seriously as a political force, it must act like a serious political force. Miss “I am you” O’Donnell was a profoundly unserious candidate whose incompetence and superciliousness reflected very poorly on the group that was credited with her primary success. It may be painful to admit a mistake after the fact but the Tea Party must recognize that this was a mistake and endeavor to make better decisions in the future. Too many more unforced errors along these lines will lead to the quick marginalization of this movement and it will be consigned to the dust bin of history along with the all but forgotten “Reform” party. Please people, this is too important.


49 posted on 11/04/2010 5:16:09 AM PDT by irish_links (: ... but only say the word and I shall be healed.)
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To: B Knotts

I think Rove should be kicked out of the Republican Party and off of Fox News. He’s a back-stabber and a traitor to the Republicans and an obviously dishonest and self-interested “journalist”.

But I don’t believe that CO lost because of Rove.

Just my opinion.


50 posted on 11/04/2010 5:18:57 AM PDT by samtheman
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