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Qantas jumbo makes emergency landing in Singapore
Yahoo! news/AP ^ | 11-4-10 | By JULIA ZAPPEI, Associated Press

Posted on 11/04/2010 5:43:55 AM PDT by stefanbatory

Qantas grounded its Airbus A380 fleet after one of the superjumbo jets blew out an engine Thursday, shooting flames and raining large metal chunks before making a safe emergency landing in Singapore with 459 people aboard.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: a380; emergency; enginefailure; jumbo; landing; notbreakingnews; qantas; singapore
AP story, see link.
1 posted on 11/04/2010 5:44:00 AM PDT by stefanbatory
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To: stefanbatory

2 posted on 11/04/2010 5:46:12 AM PDT by TSgt (Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho - 44th and current President of the United States)
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To: stefanbatory

If it ain’t Boeing, yadda yadda...

I fly Southwest anyway so it’s not an issue for me.


3 posted on 11/04/2010 5:46:25 AM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: stefanbatory

"...pucker factor 99.5%"

4 posted on 11/04/2010 5:47:08 AM PDT by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: stefanbatory

There was a previous link here on FR, but it was a headline only...This one has much more detail.


5 posted on 11/04/2010 5:48:25 AM PDT by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: stefanbatory

Grounding a bunch of A380s will lead to a lot of less-than-satisfied customers..


6 posted on 11/04/2010 5:50:02 AM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: TSgt
That had to be pretty exciting. In a "I need new pants" kind of way. The amazing thing is that the AC survived and landed with all souls.

/johnny

7 posted on 11/04/2010 5:52:48 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: stefanbatory

Rain Man will be so disappointed.


8 posted on 11/04/2010 5:53:09 AM PDT by Sloth (Civil disobedience? I'm afraid only the uncivil kind is going to cut it this time.)
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To: stefanbatory

Socialist built aircraft.


9 posted on 11/04/2010 5:53:44 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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10 posted on 11/04/2010 5:53:44 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: JRandomFreeper

“Bring me my brown pants!”


11 posted on 11/04/2010 5:53:47 AM PDT by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: stefanbatory

Airbus will blame Rolls-Royce, the engine manufacturer for this.


12 posted on 11/04/2010 5:56:48 AM PDT by ijrazz
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To: stefanbatory

Has Qantas ever had crash? I don’t think it has.


13 posted on 11/04/2010 5:58:56 AM PDT by Padams
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To: ijrazz

I have some friends who work at RR...this could get interesting...


14 posted on 11/04/2010 5:59:31 AM PDT by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: stefanbatory
In another seat, Tyler Wooster watched as part of the skin of the wing peeled off, exposing foam and broken wires...

But "it's not like the aircraft is going to drop out of the sky,"

Yeah, right. Unless under the broken wing skin were wires controlling the ailerons, in which case it could have been another Iowa UA Flight 232 cornfield crash.

15 posted on 11/04/2010 6:00:46 AM PDT by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: Padams

The closest they have come is the incident a few years back over the Philippines when an Oxygen canister exploded in a 747-400 and blew a 5 ft hole in the lower fuselage.

They still have never had a crash. :)


16 posted on 11/04/2010 6:01:01 AM PDT by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: Dan Nunn
If it ain’t Boeing, yadda yadda...

You do realize that the engine has very little to do with who makes the rest of the aircraft? The A380 either uses RR Trent 900 engines or GE/PW engine alliance GP7000 engines. The Trent family of engines can be found on Boeing aircrafts like the original 777 (Trent 800) or the new 787 (Trent 1000), whereas the GP7000 is a close relative of the GE90, which can be found on the 777.

I fly Southwest anyway so it’s not an issue for me.

So it's French-American CFM56 (GE/Snecma) engines for you. Which are also used by Airbus on the A320 series (in addition to PW/RR IAE V2500 engines).
17 posted on 11/04/2010 6:01:31 AM PDT by wolf78 (Inflation is a form of taxation, too. Cranky Libertarian - equal opportunity offender.)
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To: C210N

After Sioux City, plane mfrs began putting their redundant systems in different locations. This way a repeat of the engine shrapnel taking out all 3 hydraulic lines to the rudder simultaneously would be far less likely.

This plane load of people could p[ossibly have been saved because of new design procedures developed as a result of that crash and its ensuing investigation.


18 posted on 11/04/2010 6:04:09 AM PDT by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: stefanbatory
From last night:

Singapore-bound Qantas flight near Indonesia's Batam Island: [No crash]

Qantas plane in mid-air scare

19 posted on 11/04/2010 6:05:21 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

ahhh...that explains why only the first of your links came up in my search. IT was still in the rumor phase at that time. The second link did not include the keyword “A380.”

I searched by both title and that keyword before posting.


20 posted on 11/04/2010 6:09:51 AM PDT by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: Dan Nunn
I fly Southwest anyway so it’s not an issue for me.

Ignorance is bliss.

Southwest Airlines engine failure more than just “vibrations”


21 posted on 11/04/2010 6:12:22 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: wolf78
I was only semi-serious, hence the yadda yadda part :)

But since you pointed it out, how come the RR engines on the A380 (which were what exploded here) aren't spontaneously exploding on 777s? It could have been a manufacturing issue. Then again, could it be something deeper down the line of the plane, such as electrical malfunction?

So it's French-American CFM56

You call it French-American, I'll call it American-French. It is half-GE.

Anyway, I'm taking this too far. I really don't care that much. I've flown plenty of SF340s, A319/320s on US Airways, and an infinite number of Brazilian and Canadian regional jets. And I've made it home every time.

22 posted on 11/04/2010 6:13:31 AM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: stefanbatory
Qantas
23 posted on 11/04/2010 6:14:45 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

yup...once again, your mastery of the gerrymandered FR search function far exceeds mine...I bow before your greatness and grovel...


24 posted on 11/04/2010 6:16:03 AM PDT by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Note to self: do not joke around on airline threads. :)


25 posted on 11/04/2010 6:16:18 AM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: stefanbatory; Padams
You're both mistaken.

Qantas fatal accidents

26 posted on 11/04/2010 6:16:52 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Doogle

Pucker factor is right...

I bet the guy sitting in the window seat next to that engine tightened up so hard that when he was finally able to break wind again the ears of every dog in his neighborhood all shot up and pointed to his house.


27 posted on 11/04/2010 6:19:53 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

yes, I neglected to add the qualifier of “since introducing jet aircraft service.”


28 posted on 11/04/2010 6:21:16 AM PDT by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: stefanbatory

I never understood why it defaults to keyword search and not title search.


29 posted on 11/04/2010 6:21:47 AM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: Dan Nunn

The point is, that while not frequent in occurance, uncontained engine failure is an issue for high bypass turbofans and no carrier utilizing same is immune.


30 posted on 11/04/2010 6:23:10 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Dan Nunn

title search would have come up empty because the article I posted was 16 minutes old at the time of posting and I checked before posting it to see if it was up...


31 posted on 11/04/2010 6:26:41 AM PDT by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: stefanbatory
In fairness to John Robinson, the search function works pretty well, providing you use it correctly. It isn't absolute but it does work most of the time.

Searching on exact title usually doesn't work because most titles use words that have three letters or less. If you go to the search page and look for an exact match then you'll get no results since the three letter or less script results in no match.

Limitations: Only article titles can be searched and words with three or fewer letters are not searched at all.

A good rule of thumb is to pick one word from the title; unique words are better, and search for that as either a keyword or part of the title using that search box in the upper right hand corner on the forum index page.

32 posted on 11/04/2010 6:33:20 AM PDT by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

I did that. However, I chose the A380 keyword rather than airbus...


33 posted on 11/04/2010 6:41:31 AM PDT by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

However, no one presently knows that this issue is restricted to the RR turbofan.

If Qantas did, they wouldn’t be grounding all their A380s, would they?


34 posted on 11/04/2010 6:44:34 AM PDT by Dan Nunn (Support the NRA!)
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To: stefanbatory

Apparently, Qantas has recently moved their maintenance off shore (outside Australia). The A&P mechanics in Australia are blaming shoddy off-shore work as the problem with the engine.


35 posted on 11/04/2010 6:45:09 AM PDT by texson66 (Congress does not draw to its halls those who love liberty. It draws those who love power .)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Thanks for the information. I suspect the urban myth that Qantas hasn’t had an accident comes from how long it has been since they have had one.


36 posted on 11/04/2010 8:12:42 AM PDT by Padams
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To: Dan Nunn

It’s not a busco problem, its a roller problem.
So it might be a issue for you too when going abroad.

B had the same problems with their rollers on the 787 [1]. Qantas had the same problem on a roller equipped 747-400 recently ( 08/31/2010 ) [2]. This ain’t no busco problem. Otherwise B would only build junk too.

[1] http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/news/boeing-blames-rolls-royce-for-787-delay/story-e6frg90o-1225911178775
[2] http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2010/08/31/346831/pictures-qantas-747-uncontained-engine-failure.html


37 posted on 11/04/2010 12:48:46 PM PDT by buzzer
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To: Padams

The common claim is that Qantas has never had a fatal accident in the jet era - the modern era of air travel. That is true, and it’s one of only a couple of major airlines with that type of record.

But it would only take one to change that - and there have been a fair few near misses.


38 posted on 11/04/2010 4:33:59 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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