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Al-Qaeda of Iraq Calls Pope 'Hallucinating Tyrant of the Vatican', Threatens 'Killing Sword'
Catholic Online ^ | November 4, 2010 | Deacon Keith Fournier

Posted on 11/04/2010 2:45:49 PM PDT by NYer

BAGHDAD, Iraq (Catholic Online) - Catholics, other Christians, other people of faith and people of good throughout the world continue to mourn and reflect upon the brutal killing of Catholics at Holy Mass in Baghdad last Sunday. However, those associated with the Muslim extremists who perpetrated the evil act continue to spew their hateful and violent rhetoric. We are committed to updating our global readers on the unfolding danger that these threats portend against Catholics and other Christians. Serious times demand a serious response.

Asia News has provided excellent coverage of the massacre and its aftermath. On November 3, they filed this report: "The so-called 'War Department' of the 'Islamic State of Iraq' (ISI) al-Qaeda in Iraq issued a statement on the Web to announce that the passing of the deadline of its "ultimatum" to the Egyptian Coptic Church to release two Egyptian women, Camilia Cheh and Wafa Constantine, wives of Coptic priests, whom according to the terrorists are detained against their will in a convent after converting to Islam. Their conversion has been denied by all the Islamic religious authorities in Egypt, and the Muslim Brotherhood have harshly attacked the authors of the massacre in Baghdad. Al-Qaeda, however, confirms that all Christians and their churches have become "legitimate targets" of the terrorist group and are therefore are in danger. The message issued today by the Iraqi cell of al-Qaeda also makes explicit reference to the Vatican.'

"While confirming its desire to attack the Christians, the terrorists say they want to give one more chance to the Catholics of the Church of Rome. They claim that "the War Office of the Islamic State of Iraq announced that starting today all the churches and Christian organizations and their leaders are a legitimate target for mujahedeen.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 0bamasfault; alqaeda; alqaedainiraq; alqaida; aq; b16; benedictxvi; bxvi; catholic; iraq; iraqichristians; islam; jihad; muslims; obamasfault; pope; sharia; vatican

Iraqi Christians mourning the loss of one of their beloved priests killed by Muslim extremists

What is increasingly clear is that those behind the massacre of Catholics with their priests, during the celebration of Holy Mass at Our Lady of Deliverance in Baghdad last Sunday, are not finished with their evil. We once again invite our readers around the world to pray for those who mourn, pray for the Pope, and pray for the conversion of the perpetrators of this evil. Serious times demand serious responses. 

1 posted on 11/04/2010 2:45:54 PM PDT by NYer
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To: netmilsmom; thefrankbaum; markomalley; Tax-chick; GregB; saradippity; Berlin_Freeper; Litany; ...
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2 posted on 11/04/2010 2:46:47 PM PDT by NYer ("Be kind to every person you meet. For every person is fighting a great battle." St. Ephraim)
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To: NYer

Amen.


3 posted on 11/04/2010 2:47:21 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: NYer

Soldiers of Allah killing immocent unarmed civilians who are attending church services. Allah must be proud of you gutless cowards.


4 posted on 11/04/2010 2:52:19 PM PDT by Americanexpat
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To: NYer

Absopickinglutely.


5 posted on 11/04/2010 2:55:08 PM PDT by sayuncledave (A cruce salus)
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To: Americanexpat

I believe this is the church that was just a few doors down from the hotel I was living at in Baghdad. Not the first time tyhey have been attacked. What do the people that support the mposque at ground zero have to say about this?


6 posted on 11/04/2010 2:55:23 PM PDT by Americanexpat
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To: NYer

Perhaps we should convert the sand to glass in Iran?


7 posted on 11/04/2010 2:55:35 PM PDT by PATRIOT1876 (Language, Borders, Culture, Full employment for those here legally)
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To: Americanexpat

I can absolutely understand how the Crusades occurred.


8 posted on 11/04/2010 2:55:52 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: NYer

It seems that Al-Q is ramping up for another round of terror, possibly far worse than their previous endeavors.


9 posted on 11/04/2010 2:58:17 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: NYer

Islam . . . the peace loving religion.


10 posted on 11/04/2010 2:59:42 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: Americanexpat

11 posted on 11/04/2010 3:00:50 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: trisham

Bombs made of skittles....


12 posted on 11/04/2010 3:01:01 PM PDT by HushTX (Yep. It's confirmed. Liberals are all idiots.)
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To: NYer

The same Pope who just told Israel to give all its land to the Arabs? That Pope?

How’s that working out for ya?


13 posted on 11/04/2010 3:01:44 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 652 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: NYer

I’m surprised because most christians have fled iraq since 2003.


14 posted on 11/04/2010 3:02:04 PM PDT by jd777
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To: HushTX

?


15 posted on 11/04/2010 3:07:01 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: NYer

Does the Pope still think Iraq was an unjust war?


16 posted on 11/04/2010 3:10:35 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: NYer
careful what you wish for there goathumper... something about those who forget history comes to mind

17 posted on 11/04/2010 3:14:45 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - Voter Fraud should be a Capital Offense!!!)
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To: trisham
Islamic terrorism is not a threat. They use bombs of skittles. This.
18 posted on 11/04/2010 3:17:39 PM PDT by HushTX (Yep. It's confirmed. Liberals are all idiots.)
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To: Americanexpat

And here in the US they are trying to introduce shariah law and Americans don’t even get upset about it.


19 posted on 11/04/2010 3:18:16 PM PDT by 353FMG (In the end, it will be either ISLAM or America -- it cannot be both.)
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To: NYer
Is it too late for the Vatican to form a holy ICBM force?


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

20 posted on 11/04/2010 3:41:58 PM PDT by The Comedian (I really missed you. Next time, I'll adjust for windage.)
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To: null and void

Snop off.

The Pope said nothing like that. This was a statement made by an AMERICAN Melkite bishop. The rest of the Synod’s statement was about how Islam needed to stop killing Christians, which naturally was not reported by the US press.

That said, I wish Protestants would put their money where their mouth is. The Pope always protests the killing of Christians, Protestant or Catholic, in Muslim lands, but the Protestants rejoice at the killings of Catholics.


21 posted on 11/04/2010 4:07:39 PM PDT by livius
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To: NYer

Pope Benedict XVI blesses a child at the end of a Mass
22 posted on 11/04/2010 4:14:49 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (posted a total of 1,600 threads and 9,503 replies.)
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To: Chode

If only. But the form of muscular Christianity that enabled an emerging Europe to free the Holy Land from Muslim conquerors exists now only in memory... and cool graphics!


23 posted on 11/04/2010 4:43:56 PM PDT by karnage
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To: null and void; Religion Moderator; A.A. Cunningham
The same Pope who just told Israel to give all its land to the Arabs? That Pope?

This is patently false, easily demonstrably false.

Now, I'm not reading the poster's mind, mind you, but one could not be faulted for questioning whether this poster is being deliberately false (and therefore deliberately untruthful) or is simply in a state of invincible ignorance. Given the ease with which this bogus claim can be debunked, and its preposterous nature in the first place, I think it is fair to state, without reading this poster's mind, that he is, quite frankly, lying through his keyboard teeth.

24 posted on 11/04/2010 4:49:58 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM (Liberalism is infecund.)
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To: Chode

That does bring up a very good point. Why hasn’t the Vatican organized a military force in modern times?

While the Swiss Guard carry machine guns in Vatican City, wouldn’t it be grand to have a mobile force that could be sent to provide “amenable” protection for Catholics, perhaps even teaching them how to protect themselves?

This does not mean an aggressive group, but one that could provide at least a little defense, for a short, if critical amount of time, to protect the innocent from the unthinking (if cowardly) mob, or a small band of fanatics intent upon doing them harm.

Importantly, this would be as much a diplomatic effort, of one nation to another, requesting a right to protect the innocent from harm, where the local authorities are either unable, or unwilling, to do so. Thus, just asking might do much to settle a potential problem.

The cost of doing this could be small, indeed, as the members of this force would likely be working for free, providing their own equipment and transportation, asking only for two things.

The diplomatic authorization of the Vatican, and its blessing, to protect the innocent.


25 posted on 11/04/2010 4:54:37 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: livius
The Pope said nothing like that.

Ah. *blush* Sorry. I thought I read it here on FR a few days ago, but couldn't find the article.

I assumed it was just that our wonderful search engine had failed me yet again. I gather the thread was pulled because it simply wasn't true.

the Protestants rejoice at the killings of Catholics.

Do they? Not very Christian IMHO.

26 posted on 11/04/2010 5:17:49 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 652 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void
the Protestants rejoice at the killings of Catholics.

Maybe in Northern Ireland, but there's a whole lot more going on there than Protestant versus Catholic.
27 posted on 11/04/2010 5:19:19 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
This is patently false, easily demonstrably false.

So I've just been told.

Now, I'm not reading the poster's mind, mind you, but one could not be faulted for questioning whether this poster is being deliberately false (and therefore deliberately untruthful) or is simply in a state of invincible ignorance.

My ignorance is very vincible. A previous poster already vinced it. Somewhat more gently, I might add.

Given the ease with which this bogus claim can be debunked, and its preposterous nature in the first place, I think it is fair to state, without reading this poster's mind, that he is, quite frankly, lying through his keyboard teeth.

Lying? No. Just malinformed. (mal as in malicious, as opposed to misinformed) after I failed to find the FR article, I did do a quick google search and saw a few articles. That verified it in my mind. Had I drilled deeper I would have figured it out, but I didn't.

These days it's getting harder and harder to discern the difference between preposterous and today's headlines.

I'm sorry I was fooled and even more sorry and embarrassed that I passed it on.

I apologize for any upset I created.

28 posted on 11/04/2010 5:28:53 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 652 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: aruanan; livius
That's what livius said.

there's a whole lot more going on there than Protestant versus Catholic.

Yeah. Someone may have lost sight of Satan and his mohammedan minions here....

29 posted on 11/04/2010 5:35:22 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 652 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: null and void

Well, that is certainly one of the most honest and decent apologies I’ve seen out of the anti-Catholic Caucus on FR in my nine years of posting here. Its a startlingly rare thing. Thank you, kudos and apologies accepted.


30 posted on 11/04/2010 5:44:32 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM (Liberalism is infecund.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

I’m blushing again. This time it’s a good blush.


31 posted on 11/04/2010 5:55:04 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 652 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Outstanding idea... if only
32 posted on 11/04/2010 6:15:31 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: karnage
sad but true...
33 posted on 11/04/2010 6:25:12 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: null and void; aruanan

I’m Catholic, and I have never seen more offensive comments about Catholicism than those posted by self-proclaimed Protestants here on FR. A few times I have considered ceasing to view FR, but what I usually do is simply stop reading anything religious and I also ignore the hate-filled comments about Hispanics, who are evidently are hated on FR both for being of non-English descent and being Catholic.

I don’t think that most FReepers feel this way (otherwise I would never post and donate) but there are a few nasty posters here. I just look beyond them to Our Lord, which is really the only thing you can do, and I think most of the sincere and devout Protestant posters here understand this entirely. But Satan loves to stir up enmity. It’s his trademark.


34 posted on 11/04/2010 7:00:35 PM PDT by livius
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
This is not a Religion Forum thread. For guidelines pertaining to the Religion Forum, click here.
35 posted on 11/04/2010 7:24:59 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: The Comedian

“Is it too late for the Vatican to form a holy ICBM force?”

Brother Maynard, bring out the holy ICBM!


36 posted on 11/04/2010 7:53:44 PM PDT by Daniel II (I'm Jim Thompson, this is my brother Jimmy, and this is my other brother Jimmy)
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To: Religion Moderator
This is not a Religion Forum thread.

Doh! My mistake! I saw the title and never realized it was posted in the news forum. Mea culpa.

37 posted on 11/04/2010 7:55:18 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM (Liberalism is infecund.)
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To: Daniel II
1, 2, 5!


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

38 posted on 11/04/2010 8:35:48 PM PDT by The Comedian (I really missed you. Next time, I'll adjust for windage.)
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To: The Comedian

39 posted on 11/04/2010 9:03:07 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM (Liberalism is infecund.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

Qui in captivitatem duxerit, in captivitatem vadet : qui in gladio occiderit, oportet eum gladio occidi. Hic est patientia, et fides sanctorum.

Apocalypsis Ioannis XIII-X


40 posted on 11/05/2010 1:45:15 AM PDT by Traianus (YES I GOT HIM! BASHAR IS 666....)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
That would look great in my Castle of Agggggg...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

41 posted on 11/05/2010 6:23:02 AM PDT by The Comedian (I really missed you. Next time, I'll adjust for windage.)
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To: livius

Livius, I have noticed the anti-Catholic froth here, too. Having been Protestants for 20 years before we joined the Catholic Church, I have seen that in Protestant churches/ heard it on the radio. It is very un-Christian — “Satan is the accuser of the brethren” — and vile. And, of course, it is very short-sighted, because the Foe we all fight is bigger than any family differences.


42 posted on 11/05/2010 6:36:16 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: Traianus

Amen.


43 posted on 11/05/2010 6:48:18 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM (Liberalism is infecund.)
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To: null and void; NYer
That "Pope-is-anti-Israel" meme is not true.

Pope on Israel, reported HERE (Link) in an Anti-Defamation League (ADL) Press Release November 6:

“Pope Benedict XVI today assured top leaders of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) that he would continue to raise his voice against anti-Semitism and attempts to isolate the state of Israel,” reports a press release from the ADL sent by William Doino, author of a recent “On the Square” article, Singling Out Israel Isn’t Christian.

The release continues:

"Thank you for what you do. It is very important what you do,” the pontiff told the ADL leaders. “Continue what you do.” When asked if he would continue to condemn anti-Semitism, the Pope replied: “I will, you know I will.” . . .

He [Abraham Foxman, the ADL's national director] asked the pontiff to use the Church’s moral authority to help prevent Israel from being made a pariah by its enemies. ”Please do not permit the world to isolate Israel,” Mr. Foxman said, to which Pope Benedict replied, “I will be there.”

Mr. Doino also pointed to Benedict’s brief address as he left Israel in 2008, particularly this part near the end where he quoted the Pope:

"I wish to put on record that I came to visit this country as a friend of the Israelis, just as I am a friend of the Palestinian people. Friends enjoy spending time in one another’s company, and they find it deeply distressing to see one another suffer. No friend of the Israelis and the Palestinians can fail to be saddened by the continuing tension between your two peoples. No friend can fail to weep at the suffering and loss of life that both peoples have endured over the last six decades.

"Allow me to make this appeal to all the people of these lands: No more bloodshed! No more fighting! No more terrorism! No more war! Instead let us break the vicious circle of violence. Let there be lasting peace based on justice, let there be genuine reconciliation and healing.

"Let it be universally recognized that the State of Israel has the right to exist, and to enjoy peace and security within internationally agreed borders. Let it be likewise acknowledged that the Palestinian people have a right to a sovereign independent homeland, to live with dignity and to travel freely. Let the two-state solution become a reality, not remain a dream. And let peace spread outwards from these lands, let them serve as a “light to the nations” (Is 42:6), bringing hope to the many other regions that are affected by conflict.


44 posted on 11/07/2010 10:07:33 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Dies irae! dies illa ...Solvet saeclum in favilla .... Teste David cum Sibylla....)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Thanks. I’ve already repented...


45 posted on 11/07/2010 10:22:28 AM PST by null and void (We are now in day 654 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Chode

What’s the name of that graphic? I wonder if it’s available as a poster.


46 posted on 11/07/2010 10:26:35 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick
Crusader.jpg, if you do a search for Crusader you'll find this one in different styles and sizes as well as others
47 posted on 11/07/2010 10:54:54 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: Chode

Thanks — found it. Artist’s name is Bohbot.


48 posted on 11/07/2010 3:24:20 PM PST by Yardstick
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