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1 posted on 11/05/2010 8:20:29 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

BTTT


2 posted on 11/05/2010 8:24:25 AM PDT by Ravi
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How many of the Hispanics who voted did so legally? That is the real question that needs to be asked.


3 posted on 11/05/2010 8:25:40 AM PDT by Ingtar (If Washington and his peers had been RINOs, we would still be a British colony.)
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To: Kaslin

And here come the catcalls for moderation, only 2 days later.

Compromise is not on the table as far as I’m concerned.


4 posted on 11/05/2010 8:26:05 AM PDT by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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Oh, boy...popcorn time if this thread takes off!


5 posted on 11/05/2010 8:26:18 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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Seal off Nevada and let it DIE! Boycott Harrah’s forever.


6 posted on 11/05/2010 8:27:15 AM PDT by Huebolt (It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
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Chavez is a pro-amnesty supporter.


7 posted on 11/05/2010 8:27:47 AM PDT by kabar
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Angle won less than 10 percent of Hispanic votes and Beck less than 20 percent.

1) The less than 10% figure has been debunked

2) Chavez must have Glenn Beck on the brain

Angle's immigration ads and statements on them were moronic, though. Oh, no, those people crossing that border fence aren't Hispanic, maybe they're Canadian invaders. C'mon.

8 posted on 11/05/2010 8:28:33 AM PDT by Crichton
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I was one of those 10% of hispanics that voted for Angle. You said it Linda, her positions, not her ethnicity were what got my vote. As to Governor-elect Sandoval, I pray his experience as a former judge gives him the wisdom of Solomon. Word is he sees himself as Presidential timber. I pray he doesn’t turn out to be another mega-RINO.


9 posted on 11/05/2010 8:28:38 AM PDT by Crapgame (What should be taught in our schools? American Exceptionalism, not cultural Marxism...)
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To: Kaslin

No interest in Chavez’s self-serving take on this or any other subject.


10 posted on 11/05/2010 8:30:03 AM PDT by Will88
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Actually, I think the take-away is just the opposite. McCain made the Hispanic gambit in his presidential run, and it did nothing for him. He barely squeeked by holding his seat. The governor of Arizona was highly demonized and attacked, and she walked away unscathed. Enforcing immigration laws may not be a winning issue, but amnesty isn't either. The significance of the “Hispanic” vote is given more weight than it deserves.
11 posted on 11/05/2010 8:34:44 AM PDT by throwback ( The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid)
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“demonizing all illegal immigrants as criminals”

Illegal=criminal, Linda.


12 posted on 11/05/2010 8:40:33 AM PDT by mirkwood (Paul LePage WINS!)
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Mexicans are not Americans. No amount of ass kissing is going to do anything. They have their own priorities, and they do not include a strong and sovereign America. Their political heritage is corrupt, socialist big government. That is what they are used to, and that is what they are bringing about here in the southwest.

Demography is destiny. The only hope is to shut down immigration and demand strict enforcement of legal employment.


14 posted on 11/05/2010 8:42:43 AM PDT by ecomcon
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Legal, Hispanic citizens should be Republican votes given their basic values. The fact that the great majority of them are not indicates that Republicans are screwing up. It’s really that simple. Until Republicans learn to separate the issues of illegal aliens and legal immigrants, we will continue to lose votes we should naturally have.

Hannity’s a good example. After a typical 3-5 minute rant that begins with the issue of illegal aliens, he ends up sounding like he’s against all Hispanic immigration, legal or otherwise. Then someone calls him on it and he proclaims that he’s only against illegal immigrants. But by that time any Hispanic listener has long since given up on him.

For starters, we should stop using the phrase “illegal immigrants.” They’re illegal aliens. We need to reserve the “immigrant” label for those who are here legally, whether as naturalized citizens or with green cards. The rest are illegal aliens. (going off to pop the popcorn now...)


16 posted on 11/05/2010 9:34:07 AM PDT by Norseman (Term Limits: 8 years is enough!)
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“Angle won less than 10 percent of Hispanic votes and Beck less than 20 percent. Hispanics generally vote Democratic — but they are not monolithic voters”

-Cough-

80% or higher is “not monolithic”?

Who’s kidding whom here?

What good is one Hispanic vote when four more vote AGAINST YOU?

I would rather lose 100% of the “Hispanic vote” to a good conservative candidate supporting traditional European-based values and culture, than garner 20% of that vote to a mish-mash candidate who supports amnesty.

Notice how Chavez also subtly “plays the race card” to make her example: “not monolithic voters similar to African-Americans”.

Wrong, Linda. Your own example illustrates EXACTLY why Hispanics are indeed “monolithic voters”. The reality that they are not quite as totally “race-based” as are blacks doesn’t change the reality that they [largely] vote as a block.

I don’t expect to see much, if any, change in the voting patterns of Hispanics in the future. If anything, I expect them to become _more_ liberal in their voting patterns, for studies indicate that the children of newly-immigrated Hispanics - particularly illegals - tend to do less well than their parents, due to lack of a work ethic and poor performance in school.

Ms. Chavez is yet one more milquetoast Republican who has swallowed the “diversity pill” and honestly (yet foolishly) believes that ANY newcomer to this country can be persuaded to embrace “Republican” (she would probably never say “conservative”) values if offered the chance.

That’s a beautiful dream.

But that’s _all_ that it is — a dream.


19 posted on 11/05/2010 9:53:43 AM PDT by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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To: Kaslin
Hispanics made up 18 percent of those voting in the Nevada election -- a much larger than average showing in a non-presidential election. Had Angle won as large a share of Hispanics as did the successful Republican gubernatorial candidate, Brian Sandoval, she'd be Senator-elect Angle today. Instead, she chose to engage in illegal-immigrant bashing as her theme in the last days of the election, with reprehensible ads that depicted illegal immigrants as stealing jobs from Nevadans and terrorizing families as violent gang members.

Sandoval is a Hispanic. They voted for their own.
However, Angle did screw up. She should have run an add showing Reid's support for positions similar to hers in the 1990s and how he sells out Nevadans for votes. She should have explained that the biggest losers from illegal immigration are Americans of Hispanic descent, followed by African Americans.
24 posted on 11/05/2010 7:19:12 PM PDT by rmlew (You want change? Vote for the most conservative electable in your state or district.)
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