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Gov. Urges President on Mesa (NM-Richardson wants to prevent natural gas drilling)
The Albuquerque Journal ^ | November 6, 2010 | Rene Romo

Posted on 11/06/2010 6:22:51 PM PDT by CedarDave

Gov. Bill Richardson has taken another step in his effort to protect sweeping grasslands on the Otero Mesa in southern New Mexico by urging President Barack Obama to designate 1.2 million acres of federal land a national monument.

Richardson's move was welcomed by conservationists, but received a cool response from the Oil and Gas Association and Congressman-elect Steve Pearce.

While the president could designate Otero Mesa a national monument by executive order and bypass congressional approval, New Mexico Sen. Jeff Bingaman prefers that a consensus around such a designation is developed before that step is taken, said spokeswoman Jude McCartin.

"The local groundswell of support has not yet been achieved," McCartin said Friday.

Otero Mesa has been at the center of a nine-year struggle over whether the Bureau of Land Management should allow natural gas extraction.

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Steve Henke, president of the New Mexico Oil and Gas Association, said he preferred an earlier BLM plan, challenged by the state, that allowed for restricted oil and natural gas leases, and he said he doubted monument designation has local support.

Steve Pearce, a Republican who defeated Democratic incumbent Rep. Harry Teague in Tuesday's election, questioned the cost of monument designation in terms of lost economic development and management costs. "We've got a lot of questions, and to be suggesting that we get this done by the end of the year is, in my mind, too rushed, too hurried," Pearce said.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; US: New Mexico; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: energy; landgrab; naturalgas; oteromesa
Richardson's request to Obama for designation of a national monument is another step to ensure his "environmental legacy" at the expense of the taxpayers of the state and local business. Also, the area is thought to contain extensive natural gas reserves which such designation would put off limits.

I suspect Obama will give him what he wants before Richardson leaves office in 45 days.

1 posted on 11/06/2010 6:22:59 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: LegendHasIt; Rogle; leapfrog0202; Santa Fe_Conservative; DesertDreamer; OneWingedShark; ...

NM list PING!

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2 posted on 11/06/2010 6:24:30 PM PDT by CedarDave (Juan Williams to NPR: "You and your far left-wing mob fired me. Wasn't that enough for you? ")
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To: CedarDave

LOL...had it been 1.2 million solar panels....No problemo.


3 posted on 11/06/2010 6:25:20 PM PDT by Dallas59 (President Robert Gibbs 2009-2013)
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To: CedarDave

But it’ll be OK to plant a forest of the damn windmills!


4 posted on 11/06/2010 6:25:26 PM PDT by WestwardHo (Whom the god would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: CedarDave
protect sweeping grasslands

Protect them from what?
5 posted on 11/06/2010 6:27:21 PM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Worst. Post-Racial. And Post-Partisan. Agent Of Hope And Change. EVER.)
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To: CedarDave

Just cut off all electricity to Richardson which has been generated by fossil fuels or nuclear power. Oh, and while you are at it, stop the delivery of all foodstuffs, supplies and material to him that have been transported on fossil fuel vehicles. You know, like trucks, trains and aircraft.

One more thing; Richardson has to walk, ride a horse or a bicycle. No more fossil fueled transportation for him either.


6 posted on 11/06/2010 6:29:45 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ("a comeuppance is due the arrogant elites" - Charles Krauthammer)
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To: CedarDave

The President by fiat can do something like that??

Where in the Constitution did we get a dictator?


7 posted on 11/06/2010 6:29:55 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: CedarDave
Gov Richardson and Gov Rendell (PA) probably see the light behind each others eyes.

Gov Ed wants to tax the possibility of drilling in Marcellus shale out of existence. Of course the usual "useful idiots" of the left are demonstrating in support of Gov Ed and the ban on drilling.

I have to get out or PA!

8 posted on 11/06/2010 6:32:33 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts are holding The Constitution together as the Loose Screws of The Left come undone!)
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To: GeronL

You don’t remember Clinton’s last day in office? I think his national monument land grab was called Escalante but I could be wrong on the name and/or spelling.


9 posted on 11/06/2010 6:33:18 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Gone Galt and loving it)
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To: CedarDave

NM will be much better off when this self-serving bag of slime oozes his way out of Santa Fe.


10 posted on 11/06/2010 6:33:42 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: CedarDave
I need some help from those who know more than me. It's my understanding that drilling for natural gas is one of the most non-intrusive activities. It really doesn't affect the environment any way at all. From an environmental standpoint how does a hole in the ground cause much damage?

The environmental groups today are nothing more than anarchists. They want industrial society to be brought to it's knees. They are simply evil. There isn't one form of energy that they are for other than solar and as most intelligent people know solar is a joke and nothing more than a niche source of energy.
11 posted on 11/06/2010 6:34:14 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: CedarDave

Out going Democrat politicians, governors or legislators, are disregarding the 2010 electorate’s wishes on less government and less regulations that hold back our economy by trying these last minute land and power grabs.

We have to stop them by yelling loudly at them and by everything possible as rolling back such moves can be difficult.


12 posted on 11/06/2010 6:47:15 PM PDT by RicocheT
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To: truthguy
I need some help from those who know more than me. It's my understanding that drilling for natural gas is one of the most non-intrusive activities. It really doesn't affect the environment any way at all. From an environmental standpoint how does a hole in the ground cause much damage?

Not quite true. You have to build roads into the area and create a drilling pad several hundred feet square for the drilling rig, mud pits (closed loop), support equipment, frac tanks, etc. A surface casing will be drilled and installed to protect fresh water.

When all equipment has left you will have an unobtrusive well head, an oil/gas/water separator and maybe a couple of small tanks to store water and oil from the well. These days all tanks and such are placed on liners and bermed so that any spills are contained and nothing goes on the ground. A pipeline to connect the wells to a to-be-built compressor station must be dug and buried and then a connection to a pipeline to market must be constructed.

13 posted on 11/06/2010 6:47:55 PM PDT by CedarDave (Juan Williams to NPR: "You and your far left-wing mob fired me. Wasn't that enough for you? ")
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To: SaxxonWoods

How about Obama just nationalize all land and get it over with?


14 posted on 11/06/2010 6:50:00 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: CedarDave

Obama saved this criminals rear end by calling off the Dept of Justice and seeing to it that he escaped prosecution.

Someone should arrest this human garbage and declare him incapable of serving out the rest of his term.

Richardson is a pig and undoing all the damage he has done to NM is going to take years. Unfortunately, the vestiges of his trash will still be safely tucked in nice, comfortable, State jobs and will continue to cost the taxpayers in NM.


15 posted on 11/06/2010 6:52:54 PM PDT by BlessingsofLiberty (BOYCOTT NEVADA...!!!!)
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To: truthguy

Close off the grasslands from economic development to get back at New Mexicans for voting in a Republican governor. That I say would be the real motivation. The politics of punishment, revenge, and putting independent hard working people in there place is the Obama way.


16 posted on 11/06/2010 6:53:28 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (FUBO! I salute you with the soles of my shoes.)
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To: CedarDave
I should not have used the phrase “any way at all”. I meant to say relatively benign. I think you have confirmed that drilling for natural gas is one of the more benign energy activities. It doesn't leave a very large footprint and is relatively unharmful to wildlife and such.

It was also my point that any thinking environmentalist would be in favor of this type of activity. But I know from experience that they are against ANY energy activity. They are fools, idiots, anarchists, or some combination of all of the above.
17 posted on 11/06/2010 6:56:56 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: CedarDave
Too much of the west is already "off limits" for development--most of Utah since Clinton. Enough of the enviro gestapo, already. We can use resources and take care of the environment, too.

vaudine

18 posted on 11/06/2010 6:57:07 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: truthguy
Cedar Dave's reply at #13 pretty well describes it.

As somebody who lives in the middle of the Barnett Shale, I can affirm that the environment is essentially unchanged -- a few more gravel roads across a few more pastures, an unobtrusive drilling pad in the middle of the pasture with some plumbing atop it.

Visually, the environment isn't damaged at all. A new barn would leave a bigger footprint.

The enviro-Luddites have been actively trying to make trouble by claiming the drilling is causing groundwater damage, noxious odors and earthquakes (yes, earthquakes).

They have yet to prove a damn thing. And they won't be able to, either. We've been drilling wells in Texas for over a hundred years now.

19 posted on 11/06/2010 7:08:42 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: CedarDave

***When all equipment has left you will have an unobtrusive well head, an oil/gas/water separator and maybe a couple of small tanks to store water and oil from the well. ****

I used to build those things at the steel shops in Farmington! Amrican Tank & Steel and production Equipment Corp. I see Olman Heath is still there.

The land can be restored afterward. I lived in two gas camps at Governador back in 1955-56. I went out there not long ago and could not find where one camp had been even though I had a map. I did locate the school we went to (Gomez Ranch).


20 posted on 11/06/2010 7:10:13 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I visited GEN TOMMY FRANKS Military Museum in HOBART, OKLAHOMA! Well worth it!)
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To: CedarDave

What is it with these Fvcktards locking up natural resources in deference to “sweeping grasslands”? We have plenty of oil and gas for a hundred years, but we’re forced to import from regimes that hate our guts.

Great plan guys.


21 posted on 11/06/2010 7:11:40 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: CedarDave

Didn’t they ever watch the movie Giant. They proved yars ago that gras and oil wells are not destructive of each other.

Funny they never watched it one of their hero homosexuals starred in it.


22 posted on 11/06/2010 7:17:52 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: CedarDave

That does not belong to those Creeps that is the Americans land and resources.


23 posted on 11/06/2010 7:19:45 PM PDT by Cheetahcat (Zero the Wright kind of Racist! We are in a state of War with Democrats)
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To: CedarDave
I propose for the new congress a though review of all federal lands to be returned to the States..

O'Biden will VETO it... but the sound bites would be delicious..

24 posted on 11/06/2010 7:20:40 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: CedarDave
Gov. Bill Richardson has taken another step in his effort to protect sweeping grasslands on the Otero Mesa in southern New Mexico by urging President Barack Obama to designate 1.2 million acres of federal land a national monument.

Natural gas exploitation of the Otero would mean how many millions to SE New Mexico?

However, designation as a national monument will generate how much tourist traffic? Fourteen families a year, curious to see what 1.2 million acres of "sweeping grasslands" might look like?

In fact, they'll find it looks a lot like West Texas and Eastern New Mexico -- but with even fewer trees and at a higher altitude.

For a better look at what Gov. Bill wants to make into a national monument, go to Google World and find 32.3N lat/105.7W long.

25 posted on 11/06/2010 7:27:06 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance on Parade)
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To: CedarDave

More lame duck madness. What does the governor elect say?


26 posted on 11/06/2010 7:31:31 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Democrat Party is shovel ready)
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To: GeronL; SaxxonWoods
"The President by fiat can do something like that??

Many, many presidents have designated federal lands as National Monuments since Congress passed the Antiquities Act.

Teddy Roosevelt created the most Natl Monuments.

GW Bush created the largest area of Natl Monument, but his Natl Monuments were Marine Monuments in the Pacific Ocean. No resource extraction-no fishing.

These lands in New Mexico, Otero Mesa, were bought from ranchers by the US Army/Fort Bliss when Ike was prez and later transferred to the BLM.

27 posted on 11/06/2010 7:34:18 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: okie01
For a better look at what Gov. Bill wants to make into a national monument, go to Google World and find 32.3N lat/105.7W long.

Excuse my ignorance, but I can't for the life of me find a place to insert coordinates on Google earth. It has the coordinates down the bottom, but no place to put them in.

Help anyone?

28 posted on 11/06/2010 7:48:43 PM PDT by CedarDave (Juan Williams to NPR: "You and your far left-wing mob fired me. Wasn't that enough for you? ")
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To: CedarDave

All of hussein’s executive orders, and all his little tin-pot czars, are going to be reviewed and reversed in 2013 by President Palin.


29 posted on 11/06/2010 7:52:18 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Restore santiy to DC, send obama, Reid, and Pelosi on vacation.)
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To: Mike Darancette
What does the governor elect say?

She hasn't issued a statement that I know of, but she was really supportive of the O&G industry, so I suspect she would like it to be developed for the resources.

30 posted on 11/06/2010 7:55:02 PM PDT by CedarDave (Juan Williams to NPR: "You and your far left-wing mob fired me. Wasn't that enough for you? ")
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To: CedarDave

Fat Billy needs one of those one way trips to Mars....


31 posted on 11/06/2010 8:41:06 PM PDT by Concho
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To: CedarDave

With stroke of pen, Bush could have undone Clinton’s “national monuments”, but HE DIDN’T!!!!!!!!


32 posted on 11/06/2010 8:42:15 PM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: okie01
I had to poke around to orient myself to what corner of SE New Mexico that Otero Mesa was located in. Most folks that have not radically been off the beaten track in the Southwest probably have not experienced nature at the level of harshness and hazard of this area of New Mexico. This corner of New Mexico makes the plains of Eastern New Mexico extending in to West Texas look like Central Park as a comparison.

For ranching, it probably takes land in blocks of 100,000 acres to scratch out an existence. Tourists? Forget about it. Few are equipped with gear and experience to do anything much more than 4wd to a camp, stay within sight of it more or less than leave in a couple of days when the water runs low. To actually go cross country, it takes horses and pack animals, plus sidearms and rifles for critter protection. Not to protect the wild critters but to protect yourself from them. My guess is that the ranchers that President Eisenhower bought out in the 1950s probably were on old Spanish land grants that had been in the family for several hundred years. The hard won knowledge on how to actually live there probably disappeared with the ranchers bought out in the 1950s. And they acquired it by being taught by their ancestors before them that wrested it from the Apache and Comanche.

33 posted on 11/06/2010 10:15:36 PM PDT by Hootowl99
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To: CedarDave

How big a wallop is the proposed drilling expected to actually deal to the grasslands?


34 posted on 11/06/2010 11:16:14 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: CedarDave

Thank God that legislation in New Mexico prevents Richardson from running for a third term as Governor. Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics (CREW), rated Richardson in April 2010 as one of America’s worst governors.


35 posted on 11/06/2010 11:35:57 PM PDT by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: GeronL

Let’s not give him any ideas, OK?


36 posted on 11/07/2010 1:24:04 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (Gone Galt and loving it)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Unknown since the natural gas reserves aren’t proven. Additionally, BLM has put so many restrictions on the industry that there won’t be much exploratory drilling. Obviously roads will degrade the grasslands but one of the restrictions is that they have to drill multiple wells from the same drill pad so the impact is less.


37 posted on 11/07/2010 7:15:08 PM PST by CedarDave (Juan Williams to NPR: "You and your far left-wing mob fired me. Wasn't that enough for you? ")
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To: jonrick46
Thank God that legislation in New Mexico prevents Richardson from running for a third term as Governor. Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics (CREW), rated Richardson in April 2010 as one of America’s worst governors.

Crew is a Soros funded group who specializes in targeting members of the GOP. I figure they are just piling on Richardson to make them look "even-handed."

38 posted on 11/07/2010 7:29:35 PM PST by CedarDave (Juan Williams to NPR: "You and your far left-wing mob fired me. Wasn't that enough for you? ")
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To: CedarDave

This sounds like it parallels the situation of the wildlife preserve in Alaska. The maximum footprint expected from drilling is literally minuscule compared to the overall size of the land in question. This is bureaucracy run amok, not sound wildlife management.


39 posted on 11/08/2010 7:07:20 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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