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Gates urges Congress to repeal gay ban now
AP ^ | 11/07/10 | Anne Gearan

Posted on 11/07/2010 12:15:43 AM PDT by Rastus

MELBOURNE, Australia – U.S. Defense Secretary Robert Gates said Congress should act quickly, before new members take their seats, to repeal the military's ban on gays serving openly in the military.

He, however, did not sound optimistic that the current Congress would use a brief postelection session to get rid of the law known as "don't ask, don't tell."

"I would like to see the repeal of "don't ask, don't tell" but I'm not sure what the prospects for that are," Gates said Saturday, as he traveled to defense and diplomatic meetings in Australia.

Unless the lame-duck Congress acts, the repeal effort is considered dead for now.

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"Come on, come on! We have limited time to thwart the will of the voters!"
1 posted on 11/07/2010 12:15:44 AM PDT by Rastus
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To: Rastus

The Left is set to ram the rest of their agenda through while they still have power. And who is going to stop them - the GOP eunuchs?

I don’t hold my breath waiting for that to happen.


2 posted on 11/07/2010 12:17:18 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Rastus

Is Gates even a Republican? What a useless tool.


3 posted on 11/07/2010 12:17:44 AM PDT by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius.)
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To: Rastus

Huh?

Was there suppose to be a satire tag? /s

Weird


4 posted on 11/07/2010 12:21:50 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Rastus
At one time, a lot of FReepers admired this a-hole. He's done absolutely nothing but tow the Maobama line at every step along the way. IMO he's a disgrace.

If he's in the the Obamao admin he's a tool.

5 posted on 11/07/2010 12:34:47 AM PDT by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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To: Rastus

And this from the article as well:

“Gates also urged the Senate to ratify a stalled arms control treaty with Russia before the end of the current legislative session in January.”

What the hell is this guy’s problem? He was chosen by Bush? What is his background? I can’t hardly believe the things, the perverted ideas that are in the minds of these people. It’s out of control when the secretary of defense is advocating this bullcrap.


6 posted on 11/07/2010 12:38:38 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (No Compromise!)
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To: Rastus

No I am damned angry at this man. He may be my highest ranking boss after the president but he is NOT listening. AT ALL.

For months now (just ended last month) the DOD web page portal had a link for us to sound off about gays in the military. Asking us without fear of retribution or feelings on impact and more. He has to be totally kidding me that he simply is dismissing us on the issue. This process may be the only secret one but all all the open venues for our positions on the subject are overwhelmingly against repeal. HE KNOWS THIS..I can only surmise that the private process is the same. NOTHING leads me to be a total reversal is what members want. Every vote in this country stands against the homosexual agenda...the big lie that it is and more. They want government acknowledged legitimacy PERIOD.

I will NEVER GIVE THEM this.


7 posted on 11/07/2010 12:43:47 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: Rastus
Maybe someone out there can help ?

A court in california over turned the "don't ask/don't tell", Why did Obama appeal that ruling ?

If Gates wanted this so bad, why not simply lobby his boss, not to appeal the decision ?

8 posted on 11/07/2010 12:47:41 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Outlaw Woman

As I understand it, he is a technocrat, with few core principles.


9 posted on 11/07/2010 12:50:32 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: Sonny M

I think O likes endorsing the crazy idea that the courts have any say over the internal workings of the military. A sane CIC would have instructed the Pentagon to ignore the ruling.


10 posted on 11/07/2010 12:54:34 AM PDT by Rastus
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To: Rastus
I think O likes endorsing the crazy idea that the courts have any say over the internal workings of the military. A sane CIC would have instructed the Pentagon to ignore the ruling.

I'm not sure how a CIC could ignore a court ruling, that said, if he is so pro gay, I don't see why not allow the ruling to stand, but that said, if he could just ignore a court ruling, why not then go a step further and ignore the law altogether (if he felt so strongly about it).

I can see why a President would appeal the decision, I can't see why he appealed the decision however.....

11 posted on 11/07/2010 1:04:25 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Well Lucius, at the risk of sounding dumb, what exactly is a technocrat?


12 posted on 11/07/2010 1:13:01 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (No Compromise!)
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To: Outlaw Woman

That a geek. A very smart geek.


13 posted on 11/07/2010 1:24:59 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Rastus

Wasn’t there supposed to be a complete review of the military personnel’s opinion of the present policy and their reaction to the end of that policy? Let’s see the result of that review first.


14 posted on 11/07/2010 1:29:38 AM PDT by jonrick46 (We're being water boarded with the sewage of Fabian Socialism.)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

And he wears a dress?


15 posted on 11/07/2010 1:37:09 AM PDT by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: ICE-FLYER

I understand that there’s a severe shortage of clergy in the military.

If DADT is “repealed” there will be zero tolerance for clergy who cannot endorse homosexuality and the number able to serve will dwindle even more. All that will be left will be the secular progressive “clergy” but that’s probably part of the agenda as well.


16 posted on 11/07/2010 1:41:11 AM PDT by Nickname
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To: Yehuda

Gates: "What do you think of that outfit?"
Gates' wife: "I think you'd look great in at the next Admiral's Ball!"

Gates: "I love your, um, head covering, could I use it for a dress?"
Kurdish Guy with funny hat: "If you keep massaging my hand like that, I will forget how old and ugly you are and take you home with me..."
Gates: "REALLY!?"
Kurdish Guy with funny hat:"Of course... as long as you...

DON'T ASK AND DON'T TELL!"

17 posted on 11/07/2010 1:46:45 AM PDT by Yehuda (Land of the free, THANKS TO THE BRAVE!)
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To: Rastus

It’s obvious now that Gate’s mission is to destroy our defenses in a stealth mode!
POX on the House of Gates!


18 posted on 11/07/2010 1:08:35 AM PST by J Edgar
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To: Rastus; dennisw

19 posted on 11/07/2010 1:16:25 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under. ~Mencken)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Elephino!


20 posted on 11/07/2010 1:17:33 AM PST by Rastus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Who is that woman gagged with the toy elephant?

Just curious.


21 posted on 11/07/2010 1:20:33 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Those are Mrs. Cindy and Miss Meghan McCain. Meghanhas the toy elephant.


22 posted on 11/07/2010 1:23:23 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under. ~Mencken)
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To: Rastus

I think it might not be a *horrible* idea for the Defense Secretary to focus his energies totally on ... D-E-F-E-N-S-E.


23 posted on 11/07/2010 1:24:16 AM PST by The Duke
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To: dennisw

Another Bush Compassionate Communist.


24 posted on 11/07/2010 1:41:44 AM PST by screaminsunshine (the way to win this game is not to play)
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To: Nickname

I see this as all by design. I am seriously entertaining a law suit against the President and the DOD over the right of Chaplains to live out their faiths. I will NOT be tolerant of homosexuals saying the choice they make trumps my God given right to my faith which says homosexuality is a sin. It does them NO HARM to say this or believe it but many of them want that right stripped from us all.


25 posted on 11/07/2010 3:03:43 AM PST by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: Rastus
What a walking crapsack.

Is he a closet fag or something?


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

26 posted on 11/07/2010 3:08:37 AM PST by The Comedian (I really missed you. Next time, I'll adjust for windage.)
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To: ICE-FLYER

My heart does break for them. There’s no doubt in my mind that there are already militant gays and others waiting to enlist for the express purpose of harassing the chaplaincy.

Those of traditional denominations will be drummed out as homosexuals claim civil rights violations over their choice of behavior. Because skin color and bedroom behavior are totally the same thing I guess. Those higher up in the command simply won’t want to deal with the conflict presented and clergy will be treated as the problem.

But yes, I think you’re right that it’s by design to cause conflict and neutralize the faithful in the military.


27 posted on 11/07/2010 3:20:38 AM PST by Nickname
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To: Rastus

The more I see and hear of Gates, the less I like him.


28 posted on 11/07/2010 3:25:42 AM PST by sauropod (The truth shall make you free but first it will make you miserable.)
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To: Rastus

before new members take their seats

In other words his lies about waiting until the survey of ACTIVE Duty members of Military were in, he never is was or ever has been anything but a proponent of ending DADT.

Nothing like giving the Islamofascists yet anothe reason to fight American troops. Iran killings of Homosexuals (they prefer goats)


29 posted on 11/07/2010 3:31:42 AM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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To: Rastus

I would like to see Gates bend over in a shower with Barny Frank anywhere near him.As disgusting as the image is —methinks it reflects the substance of the Reprobate Gates
public actions. To his Presidents’ desire(and IMO Obama is NOT eligible-so he cannot be my President as well) the only
reasonable response to his insisting the decision by the
Military would be how to git ‘er done. would be
It simply cannot be done -your dungheap ,sir.With all due respect to the Office you are not qualified to make such
decision.


30 posted on 11/07/2010 3:40:07 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: AAABEST

Sad but true. Gates appears to be operating on the assumption that he is merely obeying a lawful order issued by his CIC.
My contention is Obama has not produced evidence he is Natural born citizen.ergo I must conclude he is not eligible
for the Office If not eligible for the Office according to the Constitution he swore or affirmed to” Preserve ,Protect , and
Defend” then how can ANY order or desire of his be valid.
We have a right to expect the President to be worthy of the Office, and the certification of candidates to be honest and
trustworthy-in this case nether seems true.


31 posted on 11/07/2010 3:47:31 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: Rastus
"Once you give up integrity, the rest is easy."

                  -- JR Ewing Dallas TV Series

32 posted on 11/07/2010 3:51:56 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
LOL!! I just spewed Budweiser on me keyboard, and yes it 12:00 Noon somewhere in the world! :)
33 posted on 11/07/2010 3:52:17 AM PST by MotorCityBuck ( Keep the change, you filthy animal!)
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To: The Comedian

There is only one way out of this box. When are FReepers going to realize the republic is dead?


34 posted on 11/07/2010 3:53:46 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Rastus

On the day that judge in CA ordered DOD to lift DADT, Gates complained that the military-wide culture survey hadn’t been given time to determine the effects of the change. Now, he says, “Hurry up, Congress, before the new members take their seats.” WTH?


35 posted on 11/07/2010 4:01:38 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: central_va
There is only one way out of this box. When are FReepers going to realize the republic is dead?

I think some time over the next 8 days...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

36 posted on 11/07/2010 4:21:28 AM PST by The Comedian (I really missed you. Next time, I'll adjust for windage.)
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To: ICE-FLYER

But anything can be accomplished by issuing an order! At least that’s the attitude I saw when I was in. If DADT is repealed Gates will order the Joint Chiefs to pass the order down the chain, “Be nice to gays.” Problem solved. (Barf)


37 posted on 11/07/2010 4:25:32 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: The Comedian
I think some time over the next 8 days...

Why?

38 posted on 11/07/2010 4:28:06 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Yehuda

‘And he wears a dress?’

I suppose anything is possible, but I have no reason to think so.


39 posted on 11/07/2010 4:45:27 AM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla ('“Our own government has become our enemy' - Sheriff Paul Babeu)
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To: Rastus

MasterGates... sit down and STFU (interestingly enough, a sure preventative measure against acquiring the deadly, and largely, homosexual affliction, AIDS).


40 posted on 11/07/2010 4:57:44 AM PST by DocH (Official Right-Wing Extremist Veteran Seal Of Approval)
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To: Rastus
Gates was and is one of those grey, faceless bureaucrats who have toiled in the morasses of government machinery and politburos everywhere from time immemorial.

He was appointed to a position where he could have shone. Instead he remained a grey, faceless bureacrat toiling in a position above his grasp and vision.

He seamlessly morphed into a tool of the Obama administration and remains there to this day, totally amoral and with no scruples as to whom he works for.

He can be called a "bureaucrat" or a "technocrat", but Democrat or robotcrat fits more aptly.

It's Kafka-esque that such a man holds such a critical position in the defense and security apparatus of our country. Like a chameleon he is a man that can plaster himself to any new regime.......and without scruples adopt his color to it.

No man of honor, principles or true patriotism could work for the evil thugocracy running this nation. He should have resigned long ago but his apparatchik type does not do so. They plough on. They can shift their character easily. If a Josef Stalin became our president he would remain in his postion if asked.....like any amoral functionary worth his salt would.

His out-of-the-blue statement on Don't Ask, Don't Tell is rather strange. It's worth keeping an eye on Gates to fathom not so much WHAT he said, but WHY he's saying it at this time.

As a willing-tool type of humanoid, he's undoubtedly doing his master's bidding....or maybe it's for some other reason we don't know yet. It remains to be seen what his motives are. However with shadowy characters like Gates, we may never know.

I never trusted him for a moment after I saw how stayed on to work with dedication for a marxist regime.

He creeps me out big time. He's like a character out of those cold-war "film noir" classics that were replete with easily-adaptable protagonists and moles operating unnoticed in the fogs of the Cold War.

Leni

41 posted on 11/07/2010 5:04:07 AM PST by MinuteGal (Bill O'Reilly Opines That Obama's Luxurious Indian Trip is Curry-Peachy!)
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To: Rastus

Gates is an idiot. He wants to destroy the military. He knows his only chance now is in a lame duck session, because it will never happen with the new congress.


42 posted on 11/07/2010 5:09:31 AM PST by Roklok
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To: central_va
I think some time over the next 8 days...

Why?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2620795/posts


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Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

43 posted on 11/07/2010 5:10:03 AM PST by The Comedian (I really missed you. Next time, I'll adjust for windage.)
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To: Rastus

TRAITOROUS BA$TARD


44 posted on 11/07/2010 5:17:48 AM PST by Carley (WE SAW NOVEMBER FROM OUR HOUSE)
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To: AAABEST

He just repeats whatever his boss tells him; he’s a yesman and nothing more - and I’ve always said the same about him.


45 posted on 11/07/2010 6:17:25 AM PST by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla; Outlaw Woman; MinuteGal
"he is a technocrat"

Gates is a Foreign Policy Realist aka Pragmatist. Other prominent Republican Realists are Kissinger, Brent Scowcroft, James Baker, George Schultz, Colin Powell, Condi Rice.

There are also Democrat Realists. Most prominent would be Brzezinski, Sam Nunn, Lee Hamilton. Keep in mind that Gates served three times as Deputy NSA. First under Kissinger, then under Brzezinski under Carter, then under Scowcroft under GHW Bush.

There are also politically unaffiliated Realists such as Generals Jones, Petraeus, and Eikenberry. Recall that General Colin Powell was politically unaffiliated when he served as NSA under Reagan. He was recruited by both Dems and Pubs and became a republican.

Typically a Republican Prez's foreign Policy team will be composed Realists and NeoCons, but one will dominate.

The NeoCons dominated Reagan's first term and the Realists dominated his second term. The Realists dominated GHW Bush's foreign policy with Scowcroft, Baker, Gates, Rice, and Powell while the NeoCons were congregated in the defense dept under Cheney.

Under GW Bush the NeoCons dominated until the Iraq Study Group was convened and it was chaired by Republican Realist James Baker and Democrat Realist Lee Hamilton. Realist Gates went from being a member of the Iraq Study Group to SecDef replacing NeoCon Rumsfeld. In 2007 the Iraqi Security Forces Independent Assessment Commission was convened and it was chaired by Realist General Jones. In 2008 the Afghanistan Study Group was convened and it was co-chaired by Realist General Jones and Realist Thomas Pickering.

In campaign 2008, McCain campaigned on NeoCon foreign policies and Obama campaigned on Realist foreign policies. Like Carter and Clinton, Obama's foreign policy team is composed of Realists and Liberal Interventionists, with the Realists dominating.

46 posted on 11/07/2010 6:52:27 AM PST by Ben Ficklin
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To: Outlaw Woman
"He was chosen by Bush? What is his background?"

He's a CIA guy chosen by Bush II.

Apparently, he only sees the DADT problem from the IC viewpoint of the dangers of people hiding "secret lives" that are subject to extortion.

He doesn't seem to be too worried about the other 500 reasons why the DADT ban should stay in place.........
47 posted on 11/07/2010 6:58:16 AM PST by indthkr
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To: Rastus

Is this guy a closet homo himself?


48 posted on 11/07/2010 7:01:33 AM PST by qwertypie
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To: Ben Ficklin

Gates is a Foreign Policy Realist aka Pragmatist. Other prominent Republican Realists are Kissinger, Brent Scowcroft, James Baker, George Schultz, Colin Powell, Condi Rice.


Every one of these people are globalists and traitors to the constitution and American interests, IMO. They are elitist predators who look at the US public as prey in the global power games they play. Elistists are anything but “realists.” This is the mob that is going to cut Israel off at the knees very shortly.

I know people adore Condi Rice, but Condi is an animal of the leftist State Department. She exposes the truth about who she is in her loyal support to the radical Kenyan in the White House.


49 posted on 11/07/2010 7:01:50 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Rastus

NOT A FREAKING CHANCE, BUTT BOY!!!


50 posted on 11/07/2010 7:10:59 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion......the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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