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Seniors fled Democrats in midterms
Politico ^ | 11/7/10 | Byron Tau

Posted on 11/07/2010 1:17:51 PM PST by Nachum

In an election marked by dramatic defections from the Democratic Party, older voters swung hardest, seemingly threatened by President Barack Obama’s mantra of change. Voters over 65 favored Republicans last week by a 21-point margin after flirting with Democrats in the 2006 midterm elections and favoring John McCain by a relatively narrow 8-point margin in 2008. Concerned by changes to Medicare and compelled by a Republican Party that promised a return to America’s glory days, seniors played a crucial — and often understated — role in races across the country.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2010midterms; democrats; fled; midterms; seniors

1 posted on 11/07/2010 1:17:56 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Nachum
and compelled by a Republican Party that promised a return to America’s glory days

The MSM certainly wouldn't want that would they?

2 posted on 11/07/2010 1:19:46 PM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: Nachum

Ya think this could have anything to do with the death panels the left came up with this year...you know, to kill off those damned republican voters??!! NAH!


3 posted on 11/07/2010 1:21:19 PM PST by Oldpuppymax
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To: mainepatsfan
I would just guess that any group of people who were told that they would have an interview scheduled with a panel tht would decide if they live or die, would pretty much turn against the party advocating such a rule...just sayin'.


stupid people


4 posted on 11/07/2010 1:22:41 PM PST by FrankR (DEAR GOP: REPEAL IT, or you'll FEEL IT, in 2012!)
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To: Nachum
Seniors fled Democrats in midterms

Just wait until they have to pay for college!

~duck and cover

5 posted on 11/07/2010 1:23:49 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Could be they recognize a communist.


6 posted on 11/07/2010 1:24:15 PM PST by screaminsunshine (the way to win this game is not to play)
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To: Nachum

Seniors were out in droves in my town. Canes, walkers, propping each other up...


7 posted on 11/07/2010 1:25:10 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (Obama promised a gold mine, but will give us the shaft.)
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To: Nachum

Let’s hope they hang on to vote in another two years as well.


8 posted on 11/07/2010 1:30:08 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Nachum
A big thing alot of senior citizens were mad about were the no COLA increases (again)......They blamed the RAT party (and rightfully so), but they are going to want those increases.......

When it comes to Social Security reform, or anything to do with social security, seniors want certain things written in stone...

1) No slashing of benefits.

2) Guarantee cost of living increases (year after year).

3) No increasing the age of eligibility (for those about to collect benefits).

They also don't want any sacrifice or slashing on medicare or any of their coverage programs.

If those are written in stone, it reduces flexibility, but if the GOP, in the short term, can work with it, the GOP could wind up getting a monopoly on those votes...

9 posted on 11/07/2010 1:41:55 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Nachum

Paging AARP, who just apologized for sticking it to them with DeathCare.


10 posted on 11/07/2010 1:43:12 PM PST by SanFranDan
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To: Nachum

I paid far more into Social Security over a lifetime of working than I’ll ever get back from it.

I resent Obama’s CUTS of social security these past two years. Yes, I know, he didn’t call them cuts. He said there was no inflation, so therefore there would be no adjustment.

That is a bald-faced lie. Just go down to the supermarket and buy food if you want to know whether there is any inflation or not.

Also, so far, my doctor continues to keep me on. But he gets paid practically nothing for it, because medicare has been cut severely. The practical result of that is that a lot of doctors are no longer taking on older patients. But at some point, they may have to drop some of their current patients, because they lose money every time they see such patients.

And, yes, I have paid a lifetime of insurance premiums, and medicare deductions since they were introduced.


11 posted on 11/07/2010 1:51:39 PM PST by Cicero
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To: Sonny M

That would be nice but our fiscal problems can’t be solved without changes in entitlements. I think there is a bit of hypocrisy among some older folks. I’m nearing retirement and, of course, I’m angry that the government used the money I paid into the “trust fund” for many years. However, I am willing to deal with the reality of cuts to benefits because I want a bright future for this country and my family.


12 posted on 11/07/2010 2:08:41 PM PST by drjulie
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To: Cicero

Good post;)

Some retirees continue to pay taxes on their investments and pensions. Medicare is not ‘free’. Premiums are paid every month and claims for benefits are subject to deductibles and coinsurance.

Employees and employers were forced to contribute to Social Security. People are postponing retirement, or continue to work parttime into their 70s, often using group medical insurance first and Medicare as secondary payor.

Social Security was enacted in 1935. Everyone between the ages of 65-75 who started working at age 20 has been contributing for 45-55 years. It’s their money!!!!


13 posted on 11/07/2010 2:10:24 PM PST by sodpoodle (Despair; man's surrender. Laughter; God 's redemption.)
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To: Nachum

Apparently Andy Griffith isn’t enough to sway them. The dems are gonna have to double down on their commercials to fool the old people.

(Every damn time I see one of his lying commercials, I get a massive urge to pistol whip that babbling old fool)


14 posted on 11/07/2010 2:10:49 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Nachum

No senior should ever vote for a DemonRat again. And they should quit the AARP which is a LEFTIST organization that pushes socialism.


15 posted on 11/07/2010 2:18:14 PM PST by SC_Pete
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To: Nachum

Seniors and babyboomers are so screwed. Any of them who voted for Obama deserve what they are getting and it’s going to get worse. I feel bad for Repub seniors and baby boomers.

The problem is lots of old people like fools still watch Tv and network Tv at that. The libs scare them. Still - if they watch TV - they probably deserve it. Don’t blame me.


16 posted on 11/07/2010 2:19:39 PM PST by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Well, once the Democrats got ObamaCare passed, they knew they wouldn’t need to pander to the seniors any more, since they won’t be here much longer.


17 posted on 11/07/2010 2:24:30 PM PST by Defiant (I'm a Fabian Constitutionalist. Roll back FDR and progressivism!)
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To: Sonny M

Tough luck because the seniors and baby boomers who voted Obama in (2008) effing destroyed the effing country.

The USA is bankrupt. I laugh when idiots point things about how NASA needs to grow so we can go to outer space. It’s over folks. Prepare for what happened when the old USSR broke up.


18 posted on 11/07/2010 2:25:51 PM PST by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: KoRn

“Apparently Andy Griffith isn’t enough to sway them.”

Nor did flagrant efforts at vote-buying with $250 checks for prescription drugs. Thank goodness seniors have more common sense than that girl from the 2008 election who was convinced Obama would pay for her gas and mortgage.
http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/261939


19 posted on 11/07/2010 2:33:03 PM PST by DrC
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To: drjulie
That would be nice but our fiscal problems can’t be solved without changes in entitlements. I think there is a bit of hypocrisy among some older folks. I’m nearing retirement and, of course, I’m angry that the government used the money I paid into the “trust fund” for many years. However, I am willing to deal with the reality of cuts to benefits because I want a bright future for this country and my family.

While I agree with cutting and reforming entitlements (the dems screwed the pooch on that one for votes, and amazingly, raped the fund silly), its simple politics.

Seniors will vote, and a vast majority of them, will vote based on increases, and not cuts, etc.....

This has been polled to death, there really isn't anything that is going to change this attitude.

I agree with Paul Ryan absolutely on the need for entitlement reform, but the reason Bohner hasn't signed off on those guidelines or on that agenda, is that he knows if he does, and the Dems go the other way, then we will get slaughtered in the elections....(and those seniors voted for us this time around)....

Simply put, to many seniors, will not accept the reality of needed cuts, they just won't. They should, and yes it is hypocritical, but they have the right to vote, and they will use it to elect rats, who will promise them what they want to hear, and destroy the country trying to do it so as to win elections.

20 posted on 11/07/2010 2:39:39 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Frantzie
Tough luck because the seniors and baby boomers who voted Obama in (2008) effing destroyed the effing country.

And they'll do it again in 2012, if they even think they are losing (or not getting an extra) single red cent.

These polls are clear, the seniors would cut everything else before they would take a single cut to themselves, and that "cut" will include the GOP if the rats make more of these insane promises.

They aren't going to vote for reality when it comes to entitlement reform, hell, they voted against dems because of the COLA issue, they'll vote those dems right back in again, if they don't get guaranteed every red cent...

21 posted on 11/07/2010 2:43:25 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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They fear, with some justification, the “death panels.” Yes, the panels’ existence were mocked and derided by the MSM. But Mengele like ghouls like Emmanuel's brother and the cold eyed baby-killer Sebelius continue to infest the Administration. And I muyself heard our icy, unfeeling president lament the extensive, expensive, end-of-life care that had been given to his own grandmother, the white one, the one who raised him. The context was chilling: at a forum, a woman appeared to be appealng for her mother's life “she is near a hundred but she is very alert, would her care be rationed?” Obama was not reassuring. “We are going to have to make some tough choices”, he said. This was very early in the health care debate, before the stuff hit the fan over death panels. At this early stage, Obama seemed to assume that, as president, he would wield life or death power over the elderly.
22 posted on 11/07/2010 2:45:53 PM PST by Godwin1
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To: Frantzie
Tough luck because the seniors and baby boomers who voted Obama in (2008) effing destroyed the effing country.

Are you a total idiot? Voters over 44 were not the ones that voted in Obama, it was the under 44 year olds.

23 posted on 11/07/2010 3:23:58 PM PST by ansel12
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To: Sonny M

See post 23.


24 posted on 11/07/2010 3:25:14 PM PST by ansel12
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To: KoRn

That senile, evil, old fart. I can’t believe I used to like him. He disgusts me.


25 posted on 11/07/2010 3:50:19 PM PST by Inspectorette
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To: ansel12
From the article......

In the 2006 midterm campaign (regarded as a more useful basis of comparison than high-turnout presidential elections), voters 65 and older essentially split their vote evenly between Republicans and Democrats

I'm not saying they are democrats, or republicans, I think they are pragmatic voters, who vote their own interests....

Obama won without out them (as noted in the same article above), but the rest of the Rat party needs them.

If the GOP goes after entitlements (which need to be cut or reformed, or something, because this country is going broke), the Rats, will run on opposition, and win elections (and then continue bankrupting the country).

What needs to be done, it a way to incremental work this....

26 posted on 11/07/2010 4:10:28 PM PST by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Oldpuppymax
Seniors fled Democrats...

Running for their lives is more like it.

27 posted on 11/07/2010 4:17:44 PM PST by seowulf ("If you write a whole line of zeroes, it's still---nothing"...Kira Alexandrovna Argounova)
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To: Nachum; proudmilitarymrs; Pontiac; Las Vegas Dave; neoconservative
Republicans need to continually remind the senior citizens that:

$500 Billion dollars in benefits have been removed from Medicare

There have been no COLA increases, but inflation in food prices is going through the roof

The hyper-inflation that is coming is the result of Quantitative Easing that is going on right now. It is going to rob 20% of whatever savings they have set aside for retirement. This needs to be tied directly to Obama/Geitner.

Death Panels were not a figment of Sarah Palin's imagination, but are going to kill many useless elderly "eaters".

There were NO Republican votes for Obamacare

This needs to be repeated again, and again, and again.

28 posted on 11/07/2010 4:22:16 PM PST by North Coast Conservative (Grind the middle class between the twin mill wheels of taxation and inflation-Lenin/Obama)
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To: Nachum

Gramps and Gramma ain’t buyin’ the move to communism, neither.


29 posted on 11/07/2010 4:22:48 PM PST by Lazamataz (Karl Rove: The Republican Jimmy Carter.)
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To: Nachum

Gee Can you blame them? What would you do if Dr. Mengele was coming for you?
Everyone is talking about The Jobs it is going to cost,the Taxes and Premium increases,the Doctors who will leave the Profession,but how about the Just plain Humanity!
Women would be Howling if the Government was in the examination room when they were getting ready to Abort their babies with instructions to the doctor to Stop or you will be subject to fines of One Hundred thousand dollars on the First offense and Jail for second offense.
Now that is what ALL of us over the age of 45 are facing Having the Government in the Doctors office telling the Doctor he cant provide treatment because we are to old and the treatment is to expensive,dont take my word for it ,read the work of the “Coordinating Council On Comparitive Effectiveness Research” Chaired By Ezekiel Emmanuel,Author of the “Complete Lives System”
This Council was set up as a tack on to the Stimulus Package that no one read,this Council got a 1.1 billion dollar Budget to set up the Structure on how to off all of us Grandparents.
So when you all the Talking Heads spewing their BS about Preexisting Conditions, premium increases,Lost Jobs etc. Remember,the Real EVIL is in the Structure of this Monstrosity and tinkering with a couple tenets will not do any good and the socialists know it,the Control of your decisions with your doctor is what they want and if you are to old your fate will be in their hands not yours or your doctors.


30 posted on 11/07/2010 4:53:55 PM PST by ballplayer
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To: Sonny M

Modern youth are the problem as far as liberal voting is concerned.


31 posted on 11/07/2010 5:15:23 PM PST by ansel12
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