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Sen.-elect Paul: GOP must consider military cuts
The Daily Caller/AP ^

Posted on 11/07/2010 2:06:31 PM PST by fabrizio

WASHINGTON (AP) — Republican Sen.-elect Rand Paul says GOP lawmakers must be open to cutting military spending as Congress tries to reduce government spending.

The tea party favorite from Kentucky says compromise with Democrats over where to cut spending must include the military as well as social programs. Paul says all government spending must be “on the table.”

Paul tells ABC’s “This Week” that he supports a constitutional amendment calling for a balanced budget.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blameamericafirst; iranianbloodmoney; libertarian; liebertarian; military; paul; paulantimilitary; paulbots; paulestinians; paulistians; paultards; randpaul; ronpaul; wot
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To: behzinlea

“For him to place the mission of the armed forces on the same level of legitimacy as liberal’s extra-constitutional social programs is not merely ignorant—it’s damned ludicrous.”

Yes, not one dollar less than the $600B+ a year they get now. How could the military possibly get by on less than that without jeopardizing our security. Why, if they had to scrape by on $500B, our entire way of life would collapse.


21 posted on 11/07/2010 2:28:41 PM PST by RFEngineer
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To: jiminycricket000
So the consensus is absolutely no? Without the benefit of hearing what to cut? I suspect knee jerk here. Quite understandable, your list is the standard cuts threatened by liberals. Like the local mayor who wants a tax cut saying that police & fire will have to go, and that new playground will close too!

Why not consider pulling out of Europe? 65 years after the fall of Nazi Germany seems long enough. We still have troops in Japan too. Do we really need them there?

There may be good arguments to keep theses bases open, but assuming that planes ships and troop cuts are first on his list is premature.

22 posted on 11/07/2010 2:28:50 PM PST by kAcknor ("A pistol! Are you expecting trouble sir?" "No ma'am, were I expecting trouble I'd have a rifle.")
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To: BiggieLittle

The fact is that our military defense has been subsidizing socialism in Western Europe and Israel for two generations. Let them dismantle some of their social welfare state too. If we’re going to have to pay for socialism in the world, I’d rather be paying for the social benefit of Americans than for Belgians or Germans.


23 posted on 11/07/2010 2:29:09 PM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: fabrizio

Not so fast. If it’s a government program you can guarantee there is massive spending waste somewhere. I have a brother who works for a company that lives off military contracts. They readily admit in some departments it takes no more then a half hour a day to do their jobs. That and they are paid 60.00 an hour with unlimited overtime for a mid talent, non college degree positions. He and my sister in law rake in 120,000 a year each and the toughest part of their day is the job justification meetings.


24 posted on 11/07/2010 2:30:47 PM PST by liberty or death
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To: preamble
I watched him on ABC (Arabic Broadcast Channel) with Christine and he said after the wars are over. This is being taken totally out of context. We are being manipulated and we must be aware. Glad you saw that too!
25 posted on 11/07/2010 2:31:59 PM PST by cameraeye (A happy kufir!)
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To: fabrizio

Cut everything that is unconstitutional out of the budget. Then come talk to me about the defense portion of that spending.

But when you start with defense, your motives are highly suspect as far as I’m concerned.


26 posted on 11/07/2010 2:33:21 PM PST by EternalVigilance (A republic, if you can keep it.)
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To: fabrizio

You can CUT $30-60 BILLION out of the military budget without EVER touching a true military program.

Democrats have loaded the military bills up with that much Pork in the last 4 years.


27 posted on 11/07/2010 2:33:36 PM PST by tcrlaf (Obama White House=Tammany Hall on the National Mall)
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...
Thanks fabrizio.
28 posted on 11/07/2010 2:33:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: conservativebuckeye

Paul is right in also looking at the military. My Army service doesn’t qualify me as an expert but I can tell you that mucho money is being wasted day in and day out. Starters, military seminars on diversity, Islamic relations, etc. Build the tanks, jets, and ships and cut out all the nonsense.


29 posted on 11/07/2010 2:34:35 PM PST by doosee
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To: preamble
I think he wants everything on the table.

Knowing the Paul family mindset, the first thing they want cut is support for Israel.

And I'm deadly serious about that.

30 posted on 11/07/2010 2:35:31 PM PST by EternalVigilance (A republic, if you can keep it.)
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To: earlJam
Military spending has gone up because of two wars. Shouldn’t the military be decreased as those wars wind down?

NO, wars cost things - equipment needs repair/replacement, troops need training to maintain readiness levels that let us kick tail like we have. Clinton cut our military to the muscle and bones, Bush was barely able to prosecute the war using our Guard and Reserves. Has the world suddenly become safer? There are realities and there are unrealities. Paul is treading dangerously into unreality. We cannot afford to cut our military spending.

31 posted on 11/07/2010 2:35:46 PM PST by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: fabrizio

20% across the board ACTUAL spending CUTS for ALL gov’t. If the Defense dept needs more they can explain why they need it just like all other revenue consumers. Limited gov’t means LIMITED gov’t. No one’s PORK is better than another’s. The US is broke. Everyone PAYS.


32 posted on 11/07/2010 2:38:11 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bailout)
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To: conservativebuckeye
There have to be ways to reduce spending without reducing the actual strength of our military.

It isn't just procurement either. If the public knew how much the military is spending on bogus environmental projects they'd be the ones up in arms.

33 posted on 11/07/2010 2:38:40 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by central planning.)
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To: fabrizio

Cutting the perks and salary of the politicians need to be on the table before any cutting of our military.

We need our military, we don’t need politician$ who make a career of instituting ‘control’ laws at our expense.


34 posted on 11/07/2010 2:38:51 PM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: fabrizio
This is not a surprise - Rand Paul appeared on the radical left-wing anti-war radio show and pledged to align with the left to cut military spending. It became an issue during the primary and the Paul campaign did a 180 degree turn in its rhetoric, shifting to the right in favor of a "strong national defense", etc. Previously he supported closing Gitmo, which he also changed his position on after it became an issue in the primary. I, as well as others, who pointed this about Paul during the primary were called liars by his merry little band of followers right here on this forum. Now that he's comfortably elected, he can go back to being his real self. You can probably still find the anti-war radio interview to confirm these are in fact his views if you do a search for it. It used to be posted on YouTube - not sure if it is still there or not. He was also not really adverse to prosecuting Bush and Cheney other than to say it is time to "move on" in the same interview when asked.

Like you, I'm glad we kept the seat, and it is certainly better than Conway, which is why I didn't really engage in any further active criticism after Paul won the primary fair and square. He's spot on, like his father, when it comes to domestic welfare program spending, repealing the health care law and implementing other reforms (like breaking the barrier between state lines)...not so much on other things.

35 posted on 11/07/2010 2:39:46 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: fabrizio

cut the EPA, the NEA and repeal the EPA, cut the ATFE, cut the State Department, Cut NPR,Etc.

Leave the military alone.

Stay on the rails Rand!


36 posted on 11/07/2010 2:39:48 PM PST by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: presently no screen name

What part of the US is BROKE do you not understand?


37 posted on 11/07/2010 2:40:23 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bailout)
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To: cameraeye
To all

Military spending is not the problem!
It's entitlements, heck entitlements were out of control before Obama!
Now they are exponentially out of control.
In fact I would argue we need an increase in military spending. Our Navy is almost disastrously too small, and we are starting to border on losing our technological edge in air superiority. Now I agree that DOD spending is often misspent but that's a different problem.

This is one of the things that bother me about libertarians, they seem to be a fantasy driven in their ideology as any leftist.

38 posted on 11/07/2010 2:40:58 PM PST by Reily
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To: Carry_Okie

True that - also need to see about innovating. Difficult when it comes to a monopolistic entity, but certainly something like military cannot be open to privatization and competition...that’s one thing that is certainly closed to such a reform.


39 posted on 11/07/2010 2:41:12 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Reily

Military spending IS a POLITICAL spending PROBLEM. I say again, what part of the US is BROKE, do you NOT understand?


40 posted on 11/07/2010 2:43:05 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bailout)
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