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Old Dominion Blues: Only the Dems in Virginia are Purple Now
The Washington Post ^ | November 7, 2010 | Anita Kumar

Posted on 11/07/2010 2:11:26 PM PST by Senator Goldwater

RICHMOND - After two straight years of crushing electoral defeats, Virginia Democrats know they need to do something to start winning again - they're just not sure what.

Some party leaders and activists say Democrats should keep the focus on the same policies, but also must do a better job of communicating.

"I think the problem is the message is not getting out,'' said C. Richard Cranwell, the outgoing chairman of the Democratic Party of Virginia. "We've got to overcome the disconnect."

Others say Democrats need to concentrate more on policies that Republicans have been advocating: creating jobs and cutting spending.

"If you talk about issues, the rest will take care of itself,'' state Sen. A. Donald McEachin (D-Richmond) said.

But all of them insist that Democrats will return to prominence in a state where for decades, political power has tilted back and forth between the two major parties. The Democrats just need to figure out how to get voters enthusiastic enough to go to the polls on Election Day and, more importantly, to vote for their candidates.

"Back in 2008, people were wrong to write the obituary of the Republican Party,'' House Minority Leader Ward L. Armstrong (D-Henry) said. "And they're wrong to write the obituary of the Democratic Party now."

Last week, Republicans toppled three members of Congress and nearly defeated a fourth, leaving Democrats with just three of the state's 11 House seats.

Tuesday's election came a year after Republicans swept all three statewide races - governor, lieutenant governor and attorney general - and picked up six seats in the House of Delegates. Virginia Democrats' only remaining base of power is the state Senate, and all of those seats are up for grabs in November 2011.

But the party's problems in Virginia are larger than electoral losses.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: blue; purple; red; virginia
The capsizing of Boucher, in place since 1982, along with Nye, Periello and hopefully Connolly, has restored my faith that they get it across the river.

Unlike the Post, which went all in against O'Donnell last year and did pages and pages worth of puff pieces in 2008 about how Virginia was the new vanguard of purple suburbia sweeping the nation.

1 posted on 11/07/2010 2:11:33 PM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: Senator Goldwater

Ken Cuccinelli for POTUS.


2 posted on 11/07/2010 2:14:46 PM PST by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: Senator Goldwater
"Sen. James Webb (D) has yet to say whether he will run for reelection in 2012, and Democrats have few obvious choices for the 2013 races for governor, lieutenant governor and attorney general."

My favorite part of the piece.

Webb is easily among the most endangered Senators in 2012.

George Allen, call your office and watch heads explode down at the Post.

3 posted on 11/07/2010 2:15:27 PM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: Senator Goldwater
This Cranwell puke sounds like an outsider. He failed to notice that under the guidance of former Governor Kaine, the Democrats just went down to one of the greatest elective defeats in the history of the nation ~ and he used to be Virginia's governor.

Did they not imagine that Kaine was as bad a governor as he was DNC Chairman?

I certainly did and was warning people about this guy way back when he was first running for Governor.

As much as some of you people hate RNC Chairman Steele, he did, at least, preside over an elective WIN that is possibly the greatest in the history of the nation.

I've been telling you Chairman Steele had the touch ~ in equal measure to the degree Chairman Kaine doesn't.

4 posted on 11/07/2010 2:20:24 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: Senator Goldwater
"I think the problem is the message is not getting out,'' said C. Richard Cranwell, the outgoing chairman of the Democratic Party of Virginia. "We've got to overcome the disconnect."

Yeah..., we are all too stupid to understand that the Dims are just "taking care of us"!!!

5 posted on 11/07/2010 2:21:24 PM PST by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: Senator Goldwater
"I think the problem is the message is not getting out,'

Uh....I believe the problem is the message is getting out.

6 posted on 11/07/2010 2:21:49 PM PST by WVNan (>)
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To: Senator Goldwater

“Virginia Democrats know they need to do something to start winning again - they’re just not sure what”.

...leave would be a great choice! Go to NY or Cal. They don’t, nor will they ever get it.


7 posted on 11/07/2010 2:22:15 PM PST by albie
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To: Senator Goldwater
"I think the problem is the message is not getting out,'' said C. Richard Cranwell, the outgoing chairman of the Democratic Party of Virginia. "We've got to overcome the disconnect."

That's right, keep thinking your message isn't getting out. Keep working to get the message out, it's worked so well in the recent past.

The disconnect isn't with the message getting out, it's the message!

The voters have heard your message and have rejected it you idiots.

8 posted on 11/07/2010 2:25:31 PM PST by rllngrk33 (0bama, proof we can no longer underestimate the stupidity of the voters.)
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To: Senator Goldwater

Democrats in every part of VA, with the exception of Maryland South (AKA Fairfax, etc), know they have to adapt to the political reality here... that being this state has had a flirtation with Dems in power, and doesn’t much like it. I’m very happy to see the Old Dominion has re-emerged from the wilderness.


9 posted on 11/07/2010 2:26:12 PM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Senator Goldwater
"I think the problem is the message is not getting out,'' said C. Richard Cranwell, the outgoing chairman of the Democratic Party of Virginia. "We've got to overcome the disconnect."

[chuckle]

You keep on doing what you're doing, Dems, and so will we. While you're fooling around inside your radio sets, we'll take the rest of the country away from you.

Dems don't want to admit it, but there's nothing wrong with their delivery system. The people fully understood the message and rejected it.

10 posted on 11/07/2010 2:26:37 PM PST by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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To: Senator Goldwater

“This is not _blankHarry Byrd’s Democratic Party; it is the people’s Democratic Party.”

LOL! What’s with the editors at the RTD?
Is that “blank” in there by mistake or in place of a swear word? And why isn’t the “P” in “people’s” capitalized?


11 posted on 11/07/2010 2:26:45 PM PST by mrsmith
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To: Senator Goldwater

Webb got what he was really after ~ a much higher High 3 for retirement purposes.


12 posted on 11/07/2010 2:27:22 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: rllngrk33

Their illusion that its a “communication” problem makes it a bit easier for us. That means they’ll continue to attempt the same failed policies and continue being rejected... at least here in VA. Wish that were the case further up along the Eastern Seaboard.


13 posted on 11/07/2010 2:28:16 PM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Senator Goldwater

It was so much fun voting against Boucher! I thought he would win(as always), but there was some hope.

I even had to apologize to my wife. A week before the election, she said that Boucher was going to lose, and I told her she was full of sh1t. I had always considered Boucher to be our ‘permanent’ Congressman. What’s funny is after his loss, Boucher and all of the pundits blamed “outside money” for his loss, when Boucher’s opponent was outspent 2/1.


14 posted on 11/07/2010 2:29:36 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Senator Goldwater
Webb is easily among the most endangered Senators in 2012.

I wonder if he's getting the message. We'll see what direction his votes take. First up: "Don't ask, don't tell."

15 posted on 11/07/2010 2:30:06 PM PST by behzinlea
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To: albie; Senator Goldwater
“Virginia Democrats know they need to do something to start winning again - they’re just not sure what”.

Why not move back to the Peoples' Republic of Maryland, from whence you came.

16 posted on 11/07/2010 2:32:37 PM PST by Hoodat ( .For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.d)
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To: Senator Goldwater

Our junior senator and military hero, James Webb, was not just missing in action during the so-called ‘healthcare debate’, he was absent without leave. Truly the missing man in the largest most profound social policy change in modern times. He is a skunk who has done nothing positive for Virginia or the Nation during his congressional service. Many of us here will do everything in our power to defeat him should he choose to run for re-election in ‘12. Hopefully George Allen or Ken Cuccinnelli will choose to run against him.


17 posted on 11/07/2010 2:39:10 PM PST by dogcaller
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To: Senator Goldwater

Weren’t we all worried two years ago about Virginia turning completely and irreversibly blue?


18 posted on 11/07/2010 2:39:16 PM PST by dr_who
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To: muawiyah

Terry McCullough was a bigger disaster for the DNC chairmanship (and unsuccessful Gov Candidate).

Under his (lack of) leadership the ‘Rats didn’t win anything, yet they kept him because he was a fundraiser and one of Clinton’s cronies.


19 posted on 11/07/2010 2:42:54 PM PST by submarinerswife (Stay focused and determined. Our destination is NOVEMBER!!)
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To: Senator Goldwater

I knew as soon as the elections were over that the Democrats would *immediately* blame “stupid voters”, “not getting the message out”, or Democrat personalities, individuals, for the overwhelming public rejection of their radical *agenda*.

The one thing they will NEVER, EVER DO, is to question their platform, ideas, or philosophy, in even the smallest way. The only people with a comparable mindset are cultists.

But we can’t let them get away with this. We must pound down and reinforce the idea in the public mind that “the people REJECT the radical agenda”.

This was done before, and to this day, this is why so few liberals are willing to label themselves as “liberal”. Because back in the days of Reagan, being called a “liberal” meant that you were a loser. And even to a lesser extent, this is why the MSM rarely if ever identifies Democrats as Democrats.

They are afraid that if they are identified, people will (deservedly) laugh at them and ignore them.

So it’s vital that the public reject the “radical agenda”. Whenever a Democrat talks health care, everybody should be reminded that they *mean* “socialized medicine”, no matter how much they lie about it and say it isn’t.

And whenever a Democrat talks about “fiscal responsibility”, everyone should instantly know that, no matter what they say, they crave higher taxes, big government and profligate spending. And they have no alternative to that.

But it goes on and on. Do not let them weasel out of their agenda, pretending that “the people” want that nonsense and villainy. Do not let them evade the rigidity of their doctrines, their use of gradualism in those ends, and their willingness to be duplicitous about it all.


20 posted on 11/07/2010 2:43:41 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Senator Goldwater

“”I think the problem is the message is not getting out,’’ said C. Richard Cranwell, the outgoing chairman of the Democratic Party of Virginia. “We’ve got to overcome the disconnect.”

Your disconnect is with reality. We do not want your ideology imposed upon us.

The most you can do is cooperate with our path to the future which does involve energy development and new technologies but also involves using our resources which until now have been placed off limits. We need hard-headed rational development and not some airy-fairy Green religion cloaked as morality.

We need healthcare available for those who need it, the poor, the unemployed, the sick. We do not need the hideously corrupt and bloated bill you passed. We need competition to force rates down.

We do not need a welfare state. We need jobs.

We do not need an ever expanding bloated federal government. We need efficiency in a downsized government personnel base and less relience on rafts of regulations that drive corporations overseas.

We need a lot, but not what you offer. Your ideology is the offspring of Statist engineering in the 19th and early 20thC that failed.


21 posted on 11/07/2010 2:44:32 PM PST by OpusatFR
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To: Senator Goldwater
Virginia Democrats know they need to do something to start winning again - they're just not sure what.

Usually at this juncture they just start calling people "racists" and other vile names.


22 posted on 11/07/2010 2:51:49 PM PST by Iron Munro (Buy Ammo, Food and TP - You cannot consume what no one has produced.)
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To: dogcaller

I’m becoming an activist against Webb should he run again.
Nastiest, meanist man in the and so are all the people who work in his Virginia Beach office.


23 posted on 11/07/2010 3:00:34 PM PST by tirednvirginia
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To: Senator Goldwater
"I think the problem is the message is not getting out,'' said C. Richard Cranwell, the outgoing chairman of the Democratic Party of Virginia.

I don't think so - the message did get out loud and clear - and people didn't agree with it.

24 posted on 11/07/2010 3:00:36 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: Senator Goldwater

Earth to Demonrats: The message is getting out. Keep sending it.


25 posted on 11/07/2010 3:01:30 PM PST by luvbach1 (Stop Barry now. He can't help himself.)
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To: submarinerswife
Terry still didn't preside over this vast nationwide blowout ~ been nothing like it in history!

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26 posted on 11/07/2010 3:14:50 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: Senator Goldwater

“”I think the problem is the message is not getting out,’’ said C. Richard Cranwell, the outgoing chairman of the Democratic Party of Virginia”

But the message IS getting out loud and clear. The democrats want a government that has total control over the populace beginning on what foods they are forced to eat right down to who lives or dies.


27 posted on 11/07/2010 3:18:33 PM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: tirednvirginia

I have to say that Robb was a gentleman, even though a dem. He was completely at ease with the GOP constituents as well as the dems.

That was in another era. Now the whole bunch of dems are nothing more than Bolsheviks.

Webb is simply an opportunist much like a cockroach invading the kitchen.


28 posted on 11/07/2010 3:48:45 PM PST by OpusatFR
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To: muawiyah

Cranwell is no outsider. He was a 30-year veteran of the House and Majority Leader for 8 years and Minority Leader after the Dems lost their majority in 2000.


29 posted on 11/07/2010 4:12:16 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
You are aware that as people get older their brains can deteriorate. I'm just saying that Cranwell simply does not sound like he's connected to reality in Virginia.

His boy, Governor Kaine, FAILED totally.

No way it was a problem with us understanding those people.

30 posted on 11/07/2010 4:16:29 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: ScottinVA

The Fairfax comparison is hardly apt. If Maryland were as Conservative as Fairfax County the Democrats would not have a stranglehold on the state.


31 posted on 11/07/2010 4:18:51 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: muawiyah

No, no... I get what you’re saying. I just wanted to make it clear this guy was a big part of the Dem power structure (indeed, he spent all those years in the House hoping to make Speaker until the GOP took it away). He did luck out with having some big gains on his watch as VA Dem Chairman (both Senate seats, the Governorship in ‘05, Zero in ‘08 and the State Senate), but now that it’s trending back to us, he obviously isn’t happy.


32 posted on 11/07/2010 4:25:18 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: freeangel

Yup... they tell us we haven’t heard them.

I guess they will need to hear from us in VA in 2011.

Maybe they’ll get the message then.


33 posted on 11/07/2010 4:30:38 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Senator Goldwater; All

The one who’s really interesing to watch is Warner...not to long ago hailed as presidential quality, he has kept a very low profile during this campaing season..and may be regretting his vote for Obamacare..he refused to take the DSCC job..


34 posted on 11/07/2010 4:30:42 PM PST by ken5050 (I don't need sex.....the government screws me every day..)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Let’s hope he develops terminal depression and sighs and heaves his way into oblivion. Hate to have a guy like that wander into the State House wearing a suicide belt or something ~ so typical of the Democrat party’s allies in AlQaida.


35 posted on 11/07/2010 4:40:03 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: muawiyah

Maryland is a disgrace, but at least my corner of it down here in Southern Maryland was blazing red.

Ret. marine Charles Lollar beat Steny Hoyer 57-43% in Calvert County. We also went 52-48% for Eric Wargotz over Barbara Mikulski. Also, we ousted an NEA tool Sue Kullen for a Democrat state delegate and replaced her with a small businessman conservative Republican Mark Fisher, and all five County Commissioners were Republican. Also, Erhlich won over O’Malley down here, as he did in 22 other counties.

But as usual, Montgomery, PG and Baltimore City carried the state as they always do:

Off a cliff.


36 posted on 11/07/2010 4:43:08 PM PST by Senator Goldwater
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To: Senator Goldwater

Blaming the messenger and not the message has always been a mistake.


37 posted on 11/07/2010 4:49:35 PM PST by x_plus_one (Illinois BDR 529)
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To: tirednvirginia

“I’m becoming an activist against Webb should he run again.
Nastiest, meanist man in the and so are all the people who work in his Virginia Beach office.”

I’ll amen that. I, too, plan to be an activist when that guy comes up for re-election in 2012. I want him defeated.

I also want Warner defeated. Those two voted for the Obama agenda.


38 posted on 11/07/2010 6:18:51 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: Senator Goldwater

“Some party leaders and activists say Democrats should keep the focus on the same policies, but also must do a better job of communicating.

“I think the problem is the message is not getting out,’”

Seems to me that their message did FINALLY get out, and the people rejected socialism. They are welcome to scream their message even louder in 2 years...and, of course, we’ll be happy to help them.


39 posted on 11/07/2010 8:22:57 PM PST by BobL (The whole point of being human is knowing when the party's over.)
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