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Climate scientists plan campaign against global-warming skeptics
Chicago Tribune ^ | Nov 7, 2010 | Neela Banerjee

Posted on 11/07/2010 2:13:13 PM PST by SmartInsight

The American Geophysical Union plans to announce Monday that 700 researchers have agreed to speak out on the issue. The effort is a pushback against congressional conservatives who have vowed to kill regulations on greenhouse gas emissions.

"This group feels strongly that science and politics can't be divorced and that we need to take bold measures to not only communicate science but also to aggressively engage the denialists and politicians who attack climate science and its scientists," said Scott Mandia, professor of physical sciences at Suffolk County Community College in New York.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: algore; campaign; climate; climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; gore; mann; scientism; scientists; skeptics
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1 posted on 11/07/2010 2:13:15 PM PST by SmartInsight
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To: SmartInsight

Just crazy communists hoping for grants.


2 posted on 11/07/2010 2:14:55 PM PST by screaminsunshine (the way to win this game is not to play)
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To: SmartInsight

Now, why did the word ‘Krystallnacht’ pop into my head upon reading that headline??


3 posted on 11/07/2010 2:15:09 PM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: SmartInsight

700 clones


4 posted on 11/07/2010 2:16:02 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (posted a total of 1,600 threads and 9,503 replies.)
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To: SmartInsight

GIANT PROPAGANDA CAMPAIGN ALERT.

They do not have any proof. Just speculation by a bunch of Taxpayer Grant Welfare Queens


5 posted on 11/07/2010 2:16:12 PM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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To: SmartInsight

It’s their get rich on the backs of the people scam. They’re not going to give it up easily.


6 posted on 11/07/2010 2:17:08 PM PST by GloriaJane (http://www.last.fm/music/Gloria+Jane)
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To: SmartInsight

Yes, I think you “scientists” need to continue to lobby for “hugh” grants while the country is going down the drain. Good luck with that.


7 posted on 11/07/2010 2:17:32 PM PST by WVNan (>)
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To: SmartInsight

The trouble with this is, they’ll be using American taxpayer dollars to “speak out” against Americans. We need some congressional hearings on this and maybe a few @$$es thrown in jail.


8 posted on 11/07/2010 2:18:08 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("In God We Trust", everyone else must show proof of citizenship.)
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To: SmartInsight

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_scientists_opposing_the_mainstream_scientific_assessment_of_global_warming

We have a list too;)

Love this guy!

Tad Murty, oceanographer; adjunct professor, Departments of Civil Engineering and Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa: global warming “is the biggest scientific hoax being perpetrated on humanity. There is no global warming due to human anthropogenic activities. The atmosphere hasn’t changed much in 280 million years, and there have always been cycles of warming and cooling. The Cretaceous period was the warmest on earth. You could have grown tomatoes at the North Pole”[29]


9 posted on 11/07/2010 2:18:18 PM PST by sodpoodle (Despair; man's surrender. Laughter; God 's redemption.)
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To: SmartInsight

10 posted on 11/07/2010 2:18:21 PM PST by jrg
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To: Marty62

Hand me those Fed grants and I’ll “argue” that a dragon roams outer space, the moon is actually the sun and Santa Claus is real.


11 posted on 11/07/2010 2:18:36 PM PST by max americana (Hoax and Chains, Dopeychangey)
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To: SmartInsight
denialists

Now I'm a denialist, don't think I've seen that one before.

12 posted on 11/07/2010 2:19:05 PM PST by Graybeard58
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To: SmartInsight

“Suffolk County Community College”

Science “R” Us


13 posted on 11/07/2010 2:19:17 PM PST by silverleaf
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To: WVNan

May we have another ass-biting winter with ice 6 inches thick all over DC and New York. And let it last a month...or more.


14 posted on 11/07/2010 2:19:32 PM PST by Huebolt (It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
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To: SmartInsight

Wow - a professor from Suffolk County Community College in New York, taking a break from teaching remedial High School courses to target me and set me straight - I have to say I’m impressed !!


15 posted on 11/07/2010 2:21:11 PM PST by WL-law
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To: SmartInsight

“This group feels strongly that science and politics can’t be divorced...”

Is there any need, at all, to read beyond that point?

Dean Yeager: “Doctor... Venkman. The purpose of science is to serve mankind. You seem to regard science as some kind of dodge... or hustle. Your theories are the worst kind of popular tripe, your methods are sloppy, and your conclusions are highly questionable! You are a poor scientist, Dr. Venkman!”


16 posted on 11/07/2010 2:21:24 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: SmartInsight

The spokesperson of world consensus scientific opinion is a community college professor?


17 posted on 11/07/2010 2:21:54 PM PST by denydenydeny (Power always thinks it has a great soul and vast views, beyond the comprehension of the weak-Adams)
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To: SmartInsight
"This group feels strongly that science and politics can't be divorced and that we need to take bold measures to not only communicate science but also to aggressively engage the denialists and politicians who attack climate science and its scientists,"

If science and politics can't be divorced, then it really isn't about the science, it's really about what you can force other people to do at government gunpoint.

18 posted on 11/07/2010 2:22:57 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Uncle Ike
Now, why did the word ‘Krystallnacht’ pop into my head upon reading that headline??

C'mon, we're talking "sceintists" here. Egg-heads. Ivory-tower dwelling, video-game-playing, milque-toasts.

'Krystallnacht' to them might as well be a brand of bottled water.

19 posted on 11/07/2010 2:23:38 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (every bad idea once seemed good to someone.)
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To: SmartInsight

Here’s the link to his homepage: you’ll get a flavor for what he teaches and who his heroes are (hint: Realclimate.org, Michael Mann et al)


20 posted on 11/07/2010 2:24:36 PM PST by WL-law
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To: SmartInsight

Typical government welfare receiving global warming scam spiners who are communists, thieves and fools. Greenies,democrats,communists are generally all liars and thieves who intend to destroy free thinking people through any government system they can manipulate.


21 posted on 11/07/2010 2:24:53 PM PST by kindred (Come, Lord Jesus, rule and reign over all thine enemies from Zion, the chosen nation.)
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To: denydenydeny
If they're all part of the Borg, does it matter which one is the spokesperson? I mean, either you are of the body, or you are not of the body.


22 posted on 11/07/2010 2:25:31 PM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: SmartInsight

Show us un-twiddled science and we might want to learn more.

But, as long as you rely on fancy guesses and “consensus” you deserve the epithet of “ignorant”.


23 posted on 11/07/2010 2:26:18 PM PST by plangent
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To: SmartInsight
"Climate scientists plan campaign against global-warming skeptics "

After being trained in sales and being in sales for a long, long time, I am amazed that this buncho of evioro-loonies chose the wording, "plan against skeptics".

Whether your selling cars, shoes, or ideas, you can't convince someone to buy your product by using something AGAINST them.

They come on like the "charge of the liars brigade" and tell us we'll believe it or else. Well, what could we expect from today's "chicago" style salesmanship.

What we're seeing here is a formation of another brigade of "thought police". It doesn't matter what you think, or if you believe in GW, but they are going to make you support it, or ELSE.

Global Warming is the biggest hoax ever, with obamacare coming in a close second.

So you dipsticks start your campaign based on lies - it's a hoax and everyone knows it.
24 posted on 11/07/2010 2:27:42 PM PST by FrankR (DEAR GOP: REPEAL IT, or you'll FEEL IT, in 2012!)
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To: SmartInsight

Great, another consensus.


25 posted on 11/07/2010 2:27:51 PM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: SmartInsight

From the article...
“Climate-change skeptics argued that the sniping in some e-mails showed that scientists suppressed research by skeptics and manipulated data. Five independent panels subsequently cleared the researchers involved and validated the science.”

WHERE? Where is this? I have yet to see the reports from the independent panels.


26 posted on 11/07/2010 2:28:22 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

” Egg-heads. Ivory-tower dwelling, video-game-playing, milque-toasts. “

With the full armed might of the Federal Dictatorial Bureaucracy to add teeth to their temper-tantrums....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2623219/posts

” Battle over global warming now turns to EPA as Obama says he will pursue other solutions “

Underestimate your enemy at your own peril....


27 posted on 11/07/2010 2:30:03 PM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: FrankR

The purpose is not to convince the skeptics, but to intimidate them — pretty soon they will be declared “heretics” and burned at the stake.


28 posted on 11/07/2010 2:30:12 PM PST by SmartInsight (Bad officials are elected by good citizens who do not vote. ~ G. J. Nathan)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Got to love Ghost Busters!


29 posted on 11/07/2010 2:31:02 PM PST by jafojeffsurf ( Return to the Constitution.)
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To: SmartInsight

Pull their funding. The National Science Foundation either has to be fixed, or abolished. As it is, it’s doing more harm than good, hopping on board the left wing political agenda and rewarding people for global warming, fetal stem cell research, cancer-causing contraceptives, and other bogus projects.

Yes, some of what they support is real science, but less and less of it every day. Time to go back to square one and start over.


30 posted on 11/07/2010 2:32:14 PM PST by Cicero
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To: SmartInsight

That’s all that side does - they SPEAK OUT. They scream at us, they bully us, they lie and try to frighten the children. Lucky for them the MSM is on their side - as usual. Bad for them that no one cares what the MSM says...


31 posted on 11/07/2010 2:34:22 PM PST by GOPJ ('Power abdicates only under the stress of counter-power." Martin Buber /a Tea-nami's coming..)
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To: sodpoodle

One year anniversary of the climategate emails this month.


32 posted on 11/07/2010 2:34:23 PM PST by jd777
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To: SmartInsight

Are from the Kenyan university of science?


33 posted on 11/07/2010 2:34:52 PM PST by DungeonMaster (My dad put his arm around me like that once, to this very day he wears orthopedic shirts.)
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To: SmartInsight
Scott Mandia, professor of physical sciences at Suffolk County Community College in New York.

Are you really a "professor," if you teach physics at a community college?

Anyway, the arrogance of the education cabal never fails to delight.

34 posted on 11/07/2010 2:41:11 PM PST by Trailerpark Badass (I'd rather take my chances with someone misusing freedom than someone misusing power.)
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To: FrankR

Yes, but they are still working with old logic where the silent majority stayed silent.

Their problem is the paradigm has shifted and they do not realize this, yet!


35 posted on 11/07/2010 2:42:48 PM PST by jafojeffsurf ( Return to the Constitution.)
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“pretty soon they will be declared “heretics” and burned at the stake.”

Well, probably hung with hemp rope. Burning adds too much carbon, and drowning is out because of the drastic shortage of drinkable water. A firing squad involves guns, lead, and excess noise pollution.

Hanging, though, is probably OK, as long as it’s with organic hemp.


36 posted on 11/07/2010 2:43:51 PM PST by DBrow
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To: jafojeffsurf; yefragetuwrabrumuy
Got to love Ghost Busters!

Actually, I think the best quote that applies here is; "Dr Ray Stantz: Personally, I liked the university. They gave us money and facilities, we didn't have to produce anything! You've never been out of college! You don't know what it's like out there! I've *worked* in the private sector. They expect *results*." Pretty much sums it all up.

37 posted on 11/07/2010 2:45:35 PM PST by Traveler59 (Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: SmartInsight; scripter; Darnright; WL-law; bamahead; carolinablonde; SolitaryMan; rdl6989; ...
"What do we want?" "FUNDING !!!"

"When do we want it?" "NOW !!!"

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

38 posted on 11/07/2010 2:45:42 PM PST by steelyourfaith (ObamaCare Death Panels: a Final Solution to the looming Social Security crisis ?)
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Some are prepared to go before what they consider potentially hostile audiences on conservative talk-radio and television shows.

Hostile? Who's hostile?


39 posted on 11/07/2010 2:48:25 PM PST by Signalman
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Grants in Danger alert!


40 posted on 11/07/2010 2:52:29 PM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: Graybeard58
Now I'm a denialist, don't think I've seen that one before.

What's the opposite of "denialist"? Dogmatist!

(h/t: Kate McMillan, for her crack about the opposite of "diversity" being university.)

41 posted on 11/07/2010 2:52:29 PM PST by danielmryan
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To: SmartInsight

Junior College Scientist? I am impressed...


42 posted on 11/07/2010 2:59:04 PM PST by richardtavor (One of the rare establishment Republicans backed by the "Tea Party" movement that wants limited gove)
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To: Traveler59

It does speak the truth!


43 posted on 11/07/2010 3:00:53 PM PST by jafojeffsurf ( Return to the Constitution.)
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To: silverleaf
“Suffolk County Community College” “Suffolk County Community College”

Science “R” Us

Hey man, don't mock them!

They are dragging out their "Big Guns"!

/sarc

44 posted on 11/07/2010 3:05:32 PM PST by BwanaNdege ("a comeuppance is due the arrogant elites" - Charles Krauthammer)
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To: SmartInsight

The AGU (American Geophysical Union) is another government union like the SEIU that should be dissolved. Everyone of these guys has their hands in our pockets.

I can’t do this because of a multitude of projects I’m working on. But I suggest as a single or continuing reporting project some FR, or even a group of Free Republicans, go through their (AGU) membership list and post their picture citing with what type of grant ammount they received, for what type of project, through what institution. As well as what conclusion of that project was arrived at (if published),and how it was reached . And post it here in Free Republic. Billions have been wasted on this pesudo scientific premise.


45 posted on 11/07/2010 3:08:00 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("To punish a province Let it be ruled by a professor " Frederick The Great paraphrased)
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To: SmartInsight

700 pinheads who are afraid that their 2 years of “global warming” studies at a junior college will be wasted if they aren’t able to create government jobs for themselves.


46 posted on 11/07/2010 3:08:03 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("In God We Trust", everyone else must show proof of citizenship.)
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To: SmartInsight

Just out of curiosity, it would be interesting to see the percentage of these 700 “scientists” who are getting full funding from the govt and who would have no jobs if they come up with research showing that the vast majority of their stats cannot be supported.


47 posted on 11/07/2010 3:11:32 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: FrankR
After being trained in sales and being in sales for a long, long time, I am amazed that this buncho of evioro-loonies chose the wording, "plan against skeptics".

Whether your selling cars, shoes, or ideas, you can't convince someone to buy your product by using something AGAINST them.

Sorry to be so cyncial, but why should they worry? They're not trying to sell; they're trying to lobby. There's a big difference between the two. In order to make a sale, you have to convince someone to part with money - typically, their own or funds over which they're responsible - for whatever it is you're selling. Lobbyists don't have to do that. They have to convince politicians, and/or bureaucrats, to do something for (or to) someone else.

As long as politics is adversarial, which it is, that bad sales strategy will not be bad for lobbying. As you know, a sale isn't made by saying "buy this and you'll really get back at those so-and-sos that have been cutting into you." On the other hand, laws and/or regulations are often passed using that technique. Once it gets to the politicians and/or bureaucrats, it morphs into "You will save those poor people from the depradations of those so-and-so's. You can smite the wicked!"

From this angle, selling is actually cleaner.

One more point: the AGW lobbyists-with-degrees don't even need to hustle the politicians and/or bureaucrats. They just need to hustle the public-school teachers. That's what "the long march through the institutions" is all about. All ya need is a plausible-sounding high ground, and it's a'rollin'. The absurdities of yesterday become the "impractical idealism" of today and the base for coercive measures tomorrow.

After all, who would sit down with his kid and say something that has a real chance of inducing the kid to blow off his studies? What youngster would be reckless enough to have an "F in indoctrination" dogging his transcript? [Feel free to substitute "her" is appropriate.]

48 posted on 11/07/2010 3:14:08 PM PST by danielmryan
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To: SmartInsight

Get real jobs you bums!!!


49 posted on 11/07/2010 3:14:22 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("In God We Trust", everyone else must show proof of citizenship.)
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To: danielmryan
Selling is about filling the customers' needs and convincing him that you can do it for him to get a return on his investment.

The ONLY point I was trying to make is they were trying to "sell" a point by using threats and intimidation. That usually makes the "customer" hunker down and resist with all his might.

I just thought it was bass-ackwards and didn't mean to get into a dissertation on selling. Sorry you missed that point, but I'll bow out now and let you continue on your own.
50 posted on 11/07/2010 3:18:15 PM PST by FrankR (DEAR GOP: REPEAL IT, or you'll FEEL IT, in 2012!)
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