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Large Hadron Collider Creates 'Mini Big Bang' with Lead Ions
Telegraph.co.uk ^ | November 8, 2010 | Staff

Posted on 11/08/2010 9:22:04 AM PST by lbryce

The latest experiment at CERN went ahead despite warnings by a group called Heavy Ion Alert that it could trigger a catastrophic chain reaction that might destroy the Earth.

The reaction created temperatures a million times hotter than the centre of the Sun, which have not been reached since the first billionths of a second following the Big Bang.

This was expected to cause atomic particles such as protons and neutrons to melt, producing a "soup" of matter in a state previously unseen on Earth.

Scientists, including British particle physicists, will now study the particles in the hope of discovering what holds atoms together and gives them their mass.

The collisions were produced by firing lead ions – atoms with their electrons removed – at incredible speeds in opposite directions around the LHC's underground tunnel at CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research, near Geneva.

The heavyweight particle collisions follow seven months of earlier experiments crashing protons – which are 200 times lighter than lead ions – at near-light speeds.

Dr David Evans, of Birmingham University, said on Sunday: "We are thrilled with the achievement. The collisions generated mini Big Bangs and the highest temperatures and densities ever achieved in an experiment.

"This process took place in a safe, controlled environment generating incredibly hot and dense subatomic fireballs with temperatures of over ten trillion degrees – a million times hotter than the centre of the Sun."

He added: "At these temperatures even protons and neutrons, which make up the nuclei of atoms, melt resulting in a hot dense soup of quarks and gluons known as a Quark-Gluon Plasma.

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: bigbang; cosmology; lhc
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To paraphrase Mark Twain;The reports of Earth's demise are greatly exaggerated.
1 posted on 11/08/2010 9:22:11 AM PST by lbryce
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To: lbryce

I had sex with a lady midget once, ‘Mini Big Bang’ with Lead Pants


2 posted on 11/08/2010 9:24:34 AM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: lbryce

It happened. We’re gone.

This is all just an after-image.

The fading will start in the next few days.

You’ll feel a little light-headed at first but then...

...then, nothing.


3 posted on 11/08/2010 9:24:46 AM PST by samtheman
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To: lbryce
"This process took place in a safe, controlled environment generating incredibly hot and dense subatomic fireballs with temperatures of over ten trillion degrees – a million times hotter than the centre of the Sun."

"But not quite as hot as the center of the Earth." [/Al Gore]

4 posted on 11/08/2010 9:25:23 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: bunkerhill7

I woke up this morning with a Large Hadron....


5 posted on 11/08/2010 9:25:36 AM PST by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: bunkerhill7

"..ya know, readin this headline upside down can cause immediate concern"

6 posted on 11/08/2010 9:26:29 AM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: lbryce
The reaction created temperatures a million times hotter than the centre of the Sun, which have not been reached since the first billionths of a second following the Big Bang.

Which they know for certain, of course, even though they cannot predict tomorrow's weather with certainty.

7 posted on 11/08/2010 9:26:30 AM PST by Nevermore (...just a typical cracker, clinging to my Constitutional rights...)
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To: lbryce

Aside from wanting to see video of these experiments, can it make breakfast?


8 posted on 11/08/2010 9:34:44 AM PST by wastedyears (The only good unemployment statistic in America is the number of unemployed Dem officials.)
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To: ErnBatavia

bttt


9 posted on 11/08/2010 9:36:35 AM PST by ConservativeMan55
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To: lbryce

Did they ever find the missing black holes??

http://scienceray.com/astronomy/cern-missing-black-hole-raises-new-safety-concerns/


10 posted on 11/08/2010 9:36:48 AM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: lbryce

What kind of thermometer measures 10 trillion degrees?


11 posted on 11/08/2010 9:38:25 AM PST by dis.kevin (Dry white toast)
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To: lbryce

*The latest experiment at CERN went ahead despite warnings by a group called Heavy Ion Alert that it could trigger a catastrophic chain reaction that might destroy the Earth....*

...But they thought, what the heck, it’ll be so much fun!


12 posted on 11/08/2010 9:38:45 AM PST by PATRIOT1876 (Language, Borders, Culture, Full employment for those here legally)
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To: lbryce

So is it up to full power or is there a ways to go?


13 posted on 11/08/2010 9:39:07 AM PST by DManA
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To: lbryce
"This process took place in a safe, controlled environment generating incredibly hot and dense subatomic fireballs with temperatures of over ten trillion degrees – a million times hotter than the centre of the Sun."

How is this even possible? Does this mean we've created a metal that withstands the heat of the sun, or greater? I would think these kinds of temperatures would have melted the entire collider.

14 posted on 11/08/2010 9:39:25 AM PST by Major Matt Mason (I know more about Christine O'Donnell than I do about Barack Obama.)
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To: lbryce

Were they able to create matter out of nothing? If not, then it wasn’t a “mini big-bang”.


15 posted on 11/08/2010 9:40:36 AM PST by circlecity
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To: ErnBatavia

It wasn’t that lagre! ;-P


16 posted on 11/08/2010 9:42:22 AM PST by MortMan (To Obama "Kill them all and let [God] sort them out" is an abortion slogan.)
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To: dis.kevin

A real long one.


17 posted on 11/08/2010 9:42:44 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Major Matt Mason

Temperature is not an instantaneous thing. High temps for very short times is containable.


18 posted on 11/08/2010 9:43:33 AM PST by MortMan (To Obama "Kill them all and let [God] sort them out" is an abortion slogan.)
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To: Major Matt Mason

Very VERY small center of location for the reaction. Very VERY short time frame.

It would be there and gone before the materials had a chance to melt.

A magnetic bottle (an area surrounded by a magnetic field) around the point of the explosion would also help contain the heat.


19 posted on 11/08/2010 9:45:45 AM PST by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: Major Matt Mason

Heat and temperature are different things.

You are routinely struck by cosmic ray particles with an effective temperature in the millions of degrees C.

But a single photon carries so little heat, so little energy that you simply didn’t notice.


20 posted on 11/08/2010 9:45:51 AM PST by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: reagandemocrat

Silliness and conjecture.


21 posted on 11/08/2010 9:46:30 AM PST by Peter from Rutland
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To: circlecity

Headline is deceptive. If you read the article, they created conditions predicted to have existed shortly after the big bang. Like all infinite regressions, as you get closer the energy required to create the state becomes infinitely higher. They didn’t claim to have recreated the big band.


22 posted on 11/08/2010 9:46:43 AM PST by WilliamWallace1999 ( Rebel without a clue.....)
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To: reagandemocrat
Read David Brinn's “Earth”.

Unforgettable novel.

23 posted on 11/08/2010 9:47:04 AM PST by mmercier (cataclysm...?)
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To: lbryce
But it's greatest achievement has been the creation of jobs for those who otherwise would have to look for useful employment.
24 posted on 11/08/2010 9:49:30 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: ErnBatavia
I woke up this morning with a Large Hadron....

LOL! I hope you had a good Large Hadron collider in your household to mitigate the hypervelocity back-scatter there!

25 posted on 11/08/2010 9:51:50 AM PST by Huebolt (It's not over until there is not ONE DEMOCRAT HOLDING OFFICE ANYWHERE. Not even a dog catcher!)
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To: lbryce

Too bad we no longer have an Edison or Bell where we can stick all these scientists together to make stuff we can all use - Like tires that last as long as the car, or oil that lasts as long as the engine... or crops you can grow in your back yard that will keep your family in free food all year round.


26 posted on 11/08/2010 9:52:31 AM PST by Dogbert41
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To: WilliamWallace1999
"They didn’t claim to have recreated the big band."

Recreate the big bands? Now THERE"s something I could really get behind. Benny Goodman, Duke Ellington, Artie Shaw - I love those guys. That is definitely my kind of music. What? You meant "big bang" not "big band"? Oh....nevermind.

27 posted on 11/08/2010 9:53:10 AM PST by circlecity
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To: dis.kevin

“What kind of thermometers measure 10 trillion degrees?”

Very expensive ones.


28 posted on 11/08/2010 9:53:30 AM PST by mmercier
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To: ErnBatavia

good one.....I meant the comment....


29 posted on 11/08/2010 9:59:16 AM PST by muleskinner
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To: mmercier

plus or minus 1 million degrees.....


30 posted on 11/08/2010 10:05:41 AM PST by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet.)
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To: Peter from Rutland

They checked under the Aspelund, on top of the Leksvik AND behind the Smogen:

“The source advised that they had searched under the Aspelund, on top of the Leksvik and even down the back of the Smogen (the containment fields) but were unable to locate the missing black hole.”

What more do you want?


31 posted on 11/08/2010 10:09:10 AM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: dis.kevin
A very large one- perhaps the world's largest.

32 posted on 11/08/2010 10:09:22 AM PST by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: Waverunner

Baker!

Is the Bun-Boy still open?


33 posted on 11/08/2010 10:12:48 AM PST by reagandemocrat
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To: reagandemocrat
"Der blacken holen ist inna de pot wit de chickie! Bork! Bork! Bork!


34 posted on 11/08/2010 10:14:09 AM PST by Dead Corpse (III, Alarm and Muster)
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To: reagandemocrat

I don’t know,You’ll have to ask Barney Frank that question.


35 posted on 11/08/2010 10:18:49 AM PST by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: wxgesr
When one is talking of temperatures that vaporize steel, whats a million or hundred million plus or minus matter?

Plasma is so cool. Missing man made singularities, not so much..

36 posted on 11/08/2010 10:21:36 AM PST by mmercier (everybody is looking for something)
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To: mmercier

“What kind of thermometers measure 10 trillion degrees?”

Very expensive ones.”

Rectal.


37 posted on 11/08/2010 10:24:03 AM PST by Cyman
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Fortunately, the test spawned an infinite amount of parallel universes, and then collapsed the ones that weren’t destroyed into what is now our local universe.


38 posted on 11/08/2010 10:33:54 AM PST by vollmond (I'm an issues voter. If you're a Democrat, I've got issues.)
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To: lbryce

“atomic particles such as protons and neutrons to melt”

Oh yes! Tell me more about how ELEMENTARY particles melt!


39 posted on 11/08/2010 10:45:42 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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To: Major Matt Mason

Frankly.......I agree and I’ve concluded.....it’s all a load of crap! They built the damn thing knowing damn good and well it wouldn’t actually “do” anything except make a big whirring noise and shake a little bit for the observers. Then they can report whatever it is they want to report.


40 posted on 11/08/2010 10:57:43 AM PST by Rich21IE
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To: Major Matt Mason

I believe they use magnetic field containment.


41 posted on 11/08/2010 10:58:42 AM PST by brivette
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To: Major Matt Mason

I believe they use magnetic field containment.


42 posted on 11/08/2010 10:58:47 AM PST by brivette
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To: Major Matt Mason

I believe they use magnetic field containment.


43 posted on 11/08/2010 10:58:57 AM PST by brivette
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To: Major Matt Mason

I believe they use magnetic field containment.


44 posted on 11/08/2010 10:59:07 AM PST by brivette
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To: ErnBatavia
I woke up this morning with a Large Hadron....

Make sure you call your doctor if it lasts longer than 4 hours.

45 posted on 11/08/2010 11:11:19 AM PST by balls
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To: lbryce; All

This is just more government funded junk science like global warming.

These idiots have no clue. Of course they come up with wild theories to get millions in government grants.


46 posted on 11/08/2010 11:36:31 AM PST by Democrat_media (Why is no government creating a product we can hold in our hands like a cell phone..?)
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To: Dogbert41
"Digital beds! Antproof casters! Watches that won't melt! A cure for the Shuffles!

Easy! Efficient! Affordable!

And all this by ...... Sixty-one!"

---Jonas Acme, fair-haired pharaoh of American Industry, explaing his theft of the fabled Zeppelin Tube ("Useless Tube or Tool of the Universe") from its pagan worshippers in SumaRatra.

47 posted on 11/08/2010 12:08:00 PM PST by Erasmus (Personal goal: Have a bigger carbon footprint than Tony Robbins.)
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To: mmercier; dis.kevin

They’re verrrrrrry long.


48 posted on 11/08/2010 12:10:21 PM PST by Erasmus (Personal goal: Have a bigger carbon footprint than Tony Robbins.)
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To: reagandemocrat
“The source advised that they had searched under the Aspelund, on top of the Leksvik and even down the back of the Smogen (the containment fields) but were unable to locate the missing black hole.”

What more do you want?

I wish they'd look beyond the Ikea store.

49 posted on 11/08/2010 12:13:01 PM PST by Erasmus (Personal goal: Have a bigger carbon footprint than Tony Robbins.)
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To: mmercier
And Gregory Benford's Cosm. It has this experiment as its premise.
50 posted on 11/08/2010 12:14:22 PM PST by Erasmus (Personal goal: Have a bigger carbon footprint than Tony Robbins.)
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