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Why California will stay blue
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | November 8, 2010 | Jane Junn

Posted on 11/08/2010 12:48:39 PM PST by artichokegrower

While the rest of the nation went red in Tuesday's midterm elections, California emerged even bluer. What's going on?

The standard answer is that registered Democrats outnumber registered Republicans, and that many decline-to-state voters lean Democratic.

But there's a more telling reason, one that promises to keep California blue for years. The state's rising numbers of new voters - newly minted immigrant voters, minorities and voters between the ages of 18 and 29 - are overwhelmingly Democratic in their preferences.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: blue; boxer; brown; ca; election; kalifornia; leftcoast
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Warning to the rest of the nation. The huge influx of immigrants into California has created a socialist state. Not that this is news but at least the college professor is admitting to the strategy. We white folks need to just get old, die off and this country will turn into a paradise.
1 posted on 11/08/2010 12:48:41 PM PST by artichokegrower
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To: artichokegrower

Do Woodchucks chuck wood?


2 posted on 11/08/2010 12:50:47 PM PST by bestintxas (Somewhere in Kenya, a Village is missing its Idiot.)
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To: artichokegrower

The problem is, well for us in the other 49, we’ll be picking up California’s tab.


3 posted on 11/08/2010 12:52:09 PM PST by j.argese (Boycott Nevada.)
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To: artichokegrower

The NEW ballad of Jed Clampett for 2010
Come and listen to a story ‘bout a man named Jed
Poor oil entrepreneur barely kept his family fed
Then one day he was working for some food,
And up through the town come a bumbling clown
(Brown that is, take a toke what a joke)

Well the first thing you know old Jed’s taxes are to much to bear,
Kin folk said Jed move away from there!
Said Kalifornia is no place for you to be
So they loaded up the truck and they moved from Beverly
(go’n back to the Hills they are, fish’n holes, country and western stars)

Well now it’s time to say goodbye to Jed and all his kin
They would like to thank you folks for kindly dropping in
You’re all invited back again to their new locality
To have a heaping helping of their hospitality
(Redneck Hillbillies, is what the press call ‘em now,
Clingers of bibles and guns and to Obama no bow!
Nice folks Y’all come back now, ya hear?)


4 posted on 11/08/2010 12:52:09 PM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: artichokegrower
And because Republicans are leaving the state, too.

That is a Federal Republic in action. People can move between the various states based on each state's policies.

5 posted on 11/08/2010 12:52:12 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: artichokegrower

Wait till the state goes officially bankrupt and even the most basic services get slashed. Wait till the thousands and thousands of public employees see their pensions and benefits disappear. Wait till all the contractors are told by the Govt. - “sorry, your bill is not going to get paid.” When the finances go completely red - so will the electorate.


6 posted on 11/08/2010 12:52:35 PM PST by circlecity
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To: artichokegrower
And the productive class — voters that vote Republican — are leaving Crazyfornia for states with fewer looters.
7 posted on 11/08/2010 12:52:39 PM PST by No Truce With Kings (I *saw* November from my house.)
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To: artichokegrower

But Karl Rove and Bush said that family values don’t stop at the Rio Grande. The Republicans should listen to Rove and Mort Kondracke. The GOP should advocate “comprehensive immigration reform” and make kissy face with La Raza. /s


8 posted on 11/08/2010 12:53:33 PM PST by forgotten man (forgotten man)
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To: artichokegrower
But there's a more telling reason, one that promises to keep California blue for years.

The reason why it won't is because reality sucks and it sucks extra big when one pretends it doesn't exist.

What conservatives out there have to do -- and really do it out of compassion -- is to be courageous, stay on message and be clear about what they stand for.

The bunch that likes to vote Democrat likes refrigerators and electric lights and televisions that come on when you hit the power button even more.

9 posted on 11/08/2010 12:53:33 PM PST by Tribune7 (The Democrat Party is not a political organization but a religious cult.)
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To: j.argese

Can the rest of the country just vote them off the island?


10 posted on 11/08/2010 12:53:41 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: artichokegrower
California is the model for the rest of the country, unless there are major changes. I do believe last Tuesday was the first step in those changes.

The bottom line, there is not enough money for all the programs. California will soon be on its own as Uncle Sugar is under new ownership. There is no rational reason to live in Cali anymore, if you are there, get out before it is too late.

The problem is Cali is exporting political views, this could be fatal to neighboring states ....

schu

11 posted on 11/08/2010 12:55:43 PM PST by schu
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To: artichokegrower
The people living there imagine that we are going to let them saw off the coastline and turn that part of California into a people's republic.

Maybe we will, but they don't get the water. All that stuff flowing past Sacramento can be turned around to go to Fresno!

And they don't get to cross the new national border into the US.

12 posted on 11/08/2010 12:56:02 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: artichokegrower
When these bastards start eating the few Conservatives left... don't tell us we did not warn you. We will barricade the zombies in california one day... seal the borders and nuke the friggin place!

LLS

13 posted on 11/08/2010 12:56:26 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: artichokegrower
We white folks need to just get old, die off and this country will turn into a paradise.

Demographics is destiny, they say. White women decided they preferred feminism to raising, or even having, children.

14 posted on 11/08/2010 12:56:51 PM PST by MichiganConservative (A government big enough to do unto the people you don't like will get to doing unto you soon enough.)
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To: brytlea

So they will stay blue: that means they will remain stupid!


15 posted on 11/08/2010 12:57:31 PM PST by efs111 (Hasta La Vista, Baby!)
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To: artichokegrower

Career freeloaders.


16 posted on 11/08/2010 12:57:31 PM PST by abigailsmybaby ( I'm not going to buy my kids an encyclopedia. Let them walk to school like I did. Yogi Berra)
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To: artichokegrower
newly minted immigrant voters....is this code for Illegal Immigrant Voters?
17 posted on 11/08/2010 12:57:50 PM PST by Rational Thought
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To: bestintxas

california’s a lost cause . Let the rat’s have it!


18 posted on 11/08/2010 12:58:29 PM PST by pgkdan (Protect and Defend America! End the practice of islam on our shores before it's too late!)
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To: artichokegrower
Amnesty! That will help Republicans win in California!

Yeah, sure.

19 posted on 11/08/2010 12:58:58 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: 5thGenTexan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68ugkg9RePc


20 posted on 11/08/2010 12:59:04 PM PST by edcoil (Today, we start fixing stupid.)
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To: brytlea

would it be cool to one morning, say Febuary 18, 2011, off the top of my head. For many thousands of volunteers to just show up at the California border with shovels, jackhammers and other tools and separate it from the rest of country?


21 posted on 11/08/2010 12:59:13 PM PST by j.argese (Boycott Nevada.)
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To: All

Wasted verbage on what should be a 3 word article: “stupidity, cowardice and sloth...”


22 posted on 11/08/2010 12:59:19 PM PST by Maverick68
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To: artichokegrower

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2615747/posts


23 posted on 11/08/2010 1:01:14 PM PST by RockinRight (if the choice is between Crazy and Commie, I choose Crazy.)
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To: artichokegrower

24 posted on 11/08/2010 1:01:40 PM PST by RockinRight (if the choice is between Crazy and Commie, I choose Crazy.)
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To: artichokegrower
Kaleefornia will stay blue for the same reason that Maryland Stays blue. The entire state is controlled by the blood suckers and looney lefties that HEAVILY populate the cities and other densly populated areas.

There is no solution for this condition since it is self perpetuating. Quite simply, the TAKERS outnumber the GIVERS, 3 to 1.

25 posted on 11/08/2010 1:01:43 PM PST by evad (Every time a conservative votes, a liberal cries)
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To: cindy-true-supporter

ping!


26 posted on 11/08/2010 1:01:43 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Government does nothing as economically as the private sector. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: j.argese

You folks are contributing $40 million per day to California’s unemployment compensation fund. We wish to express our appreciation for this “loan” to our state. (Suckers) This sentiment is not mine but that of those up in the state capitol.


27 posted on 11/08/2010 1:02:29 PM PST by artichokegrower
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To: schu
The problem is Cali is exporting political views, this could be fatal to neighboring states ....

That certainly used to be the case. However CA is now an economic basket case of the brink of a complete collapse. It's all ouyt in the open for everyone to see. Any state that emulates CA deserves it's fate.

28 posted on 11/08/2010 1:03:58 PM PST by pgkdan (Protect and Defend America! End the practice of islam on our shores before it's too late!)
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To: artichokegrower
Illegal immigrants voting, fraud at the poling sites and stuffing the ballot boxes with fraudulent ballots and it always seems to favor the democrats and their liberal initiatives. Dems are smart and everybody else is stupid, stupid for letting it get this bad. Why don't we make vote fraud a FELONY punishable by a minimum of 20 years in prison. Essentially vote fraud is TREASON against our democracy and it has and will continue to erode our liberties. IT IS SERIOUS and needs to be treated as such. A firing squad would work as well, oh yeah, then charge em for the bullet.
29 posted on 11/08/2010 1:04:00 PM PST by drypowder
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To: artichokegrower

1) remember Gray Davis?
2) if the GOP was smart, they’d pick a conservative Hispanic to replace Jerry Brown. Look at New Mexico and Florida.


30 posted on 11/08/2010 1:04:30 PM PST by ari-freedom (Ding dong the Pelosi is gone!)
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To: artichokegrower

California will be in play again when they get back to basics. Demographics isn’t the problem the problem is the same that the North East has. If you aren’t able to articulate and argue for conservative principles effectively then the amount of money to have to spend won’t mean a thing. California had two top ticket candidates who both appeared unprincipled and soft so that even when they took a stand they could never benefit entirely for it. What we see is the result of letting the Democrats have California for so long uncontested in Presidential races. You have to give voters a choice and a compelling reason to vote for you. It isn’t gay rights and abortion or even immigration that is tripping the GOP up in California. Its the refusal to run like Reagan. It isn’t going to happen over night but we need more individuals like Van Tran and David Harmer who will go toe to toe with the Democrats even when they face disadvantages. If the GOP had truly inspiring top ticket candidates then the GOP would’ve did much better down ticket.


31 posted on 11/08/2010 1:05:34 PM PST by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: artichokegrower

“newly minted immigrant voters, minorities “

oops is that love affair with the illegals growing cold?


32 posted on 11/08/2010 1:05:44 PM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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To: RockinRight

Interesting map. But I'm confused -- are the colors reversed? I thought the coastal cities were driving the "blue" liberalism and the inland areas were the "red" voters.

33 posted on 11/08/2010 1:06:05 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Government does nothing as economically as the private sector. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Tribune7
What conservatives out there have to do -- and really do it out of compassion -- is to be courageous, stay on message and be clear about what they stand for.

I really disagree. What consrervatives out there have to do is get the hell out! CA is lost and deserves to be.

34 posted on 11/08/2010 1:06:53 PM PST by pgkdan (Protect and Defend America! End the practice of islam on our shores before it's too late!)
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To: Kartographer
California's Screamin'

We called on Jerry Brown
Though his hair is gray
'Cause he can talk the talk
Of the Greens and Gays

Poverty's the norm
In large parts of L.A.
California's Screamin'
To make it go away…

Stopped going to church
We passed more laws today
Well, we cut down Liberty
And taxed our wealth and pay

You know the leeching unions drove
All of our jobs away
California's Screamin':
Our debt, we'll never pay…

So call on Jerry Brown
He still lives by the Bay
Where you can’t take a walk
And smoke outside today

And yet illegal felons
Must have their vote and say
California's Screamin':
Is it still all right to pray?

35 posted on 11/08/2010 1:07:07 PM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: bestintxas

“Do Woodchucks chuck wood?”

They do on that Geico commercial that my wife finds eternally funny. :)


36 posted on 11/08/2010 1:07:25 PM PST by Pessimist
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To: Albion Wilde

You are right and the map is wrong. Unless “red” = “commie”.


37 posted on 11/08/2010 1:08:47 PM PST by NathanR (,)
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To: artichokegrower

http://www.forbes.com/2010/06/04/migration-moving-wealthy-interactive-counties-map.html

This is my favorite interactive tool of the year. (You have to click thru an annoying ad.)

Select any county in CA and laugh (or cry).


38 posted on 11/08/2010 1:09:48 PM PST by Locomotive Breath
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To: j.argese

RE: “The problem is, well for us in the other 49, we’ll be picking up California’s tab.”

******************

I’m in CA; many here on FR live in CA — some plan to leave; if I had a business or young family I’d leave. Instead I stay and fight, and go Galt to the extent possible.

I sincerely hope other states do NOT get stuck with CA’s bills — racked up because ‘voters’ are overwhelmingly leftwing nutjobs, govt. workers, union members, immigrants dragged into voting ‘blue’ with promises of more and more freebies.

This has been a LONG time coming and old Jerry Brown shares a good part of the blame for it though certainly not all. CA has been beckoning ‘takers’ of all types for decades now via its various policies — especially cheap prices for college for out of staters. Not good!


39 posted on 11/08/2010 1:12:09 PM PST by CaliforniaCon
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To: brytlea

I say sell it to the Japanese and then after they have cleaned up the immigration problems, and they will, just repo it.


40 posted on 11/08/2010 1:12:39 PM PST by biff
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To: Albion Wilde

I switched the colors so they would make more sense...in my map, “red” = “Communist.”


41 posted on 11/08/2010 1:15:15 PM PST by RockinRight (if the choice is between Crazy and Commie, I choose Crazy.)
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To: NathanR

It does.


42 posted on 11/08/2010 1:15:49 PM PST by RockinRight (if the choice is between Crazy and Commie, I choose Crazy.)
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To: artichokegrower
"...newly minted immigrant voters, minorities and voters between the ages of 18 and 29..."

I've been saying this for quite some time. CA is dominated by political ignoramuses.

So stop with all the rants about CA already. As you can see, CA politics is totally schizoid. It's not that the majority of voters wants the world to come to an end, they just want free stuff.

Appeals to reason have no effect. We're dominated by idiots and the Democrats who love them. Case closed.

43 posted on 11/08/2010 1:16:50 PM PST by telebob
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To: j.argese
would it be cool to one morning, say Febuary 18, 2011, off the top of my head. For many thousands of volunteers to just show up at the California border with shovels, jackhammers and other tools and separate it from the rest of country?

Maybe it could be done, but you'll need more than shovels and jackhamers on the California/Nevada border, there is a 14,000' mountain range running right up the middle of the border.

In fact, Nevada's highest mountain is actually part of an even higher peak in California.

44 posted on 11/08/2010 1:17:36 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden the Sierra Club surely would have.)
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To: artichokegrower

Note to CA: We, the other 49, ain’t bailing you out. Period. If you want it, come and get it. Just try.


45 posted on 11/08/2010 1:21:15 PM PST by RedElement
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To: Tribune7
The bunch that likes to vote Democrat likes refrigerators and electric lights and televisions that come on when you hit the power button even more.

When CA allows a state-level version of cap and trade to go into effect, brownouts and blackouts are only a matter of time. IIRC, that was one of factors that resulted in Gray Davis being recalled. Moonbeam may suffer the same fate if he's not careful.

46 posted on 11/08/2010 1:26:54 PM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: j.argese

Works for me.


47 posted on 11/08/2010 1:28:58 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: RockinRight
Well change them back. It is confusing. (Since blue now is “commie” not “patriotic”.) Either that or change the colors completely. Make “commie” pink or green or something.
48 posted on 11/08/2010 1:30:24 PM PST by NathanR (,)
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To: artichokegrower
"Hispanic" voters in L.A. county broke 2:1 for Brown over WHitman, then just voted for the rest of the democrats on the ballot. The so-called Independants tend to be social liberals who may or may not vote for a social conservative. The rest of the democrats along the coast are also social AND fiscal liberals, who will in no way vote for a Republican - social lib or not.

Democrat registration - 7.5 million
Republican - 5.3 million
Ind - 3.4 million

Therefore, Republicans have to get at least 66% of the Indies in a given race to win. A tall order for the social conservatives California Republicans usually run.

49 posted on 11/08/2010 1:31:12 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: RockinRight
in my map, “red” = “Communist.”

Until the Clintons came along, such was true for all US elections -- red was for Democrats and blue was for Republicans. A corrupt media changed it all for us; no one was consulted for permission. Read this:

Dave Leip's Atlas of U.S. Presidential Elections

50 posted on 11/08/2010 1:32:30 PM PST by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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