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Progressive leaders back Clyburn over Hoyer for minority whip post
The Hill ^ | 11/8/2010 | Russell Berman

Posted on 11/09/2010 3:04:15 AM PST by markomalley

Both House leaders of the Congressional Progressive Caucus are throwing their support behind Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.) in his race against Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) for minority whip.

"I support Mr. Clyburn. They both have been effective leaders, but Jim Clyburn is our whip, and he’s been a good whip,” the co-chairwoman of the caucus, Rep. Lynn Woolsey (D-Calif.), told The Hill. Woolsey said the group’s co-chairman, Rep. Raúl Grijalva (D-Ariz.), was also backing Clyburn, although the caucus as a whole was not taking a position in the intra-party battle.

“We’ll be working it [for Clyburn], but not for the progressive caucus,” Woolsey said. Grijalva was not immediately available for comment.

House majority leader Hoyer is challenging majority whip Clyburn for his post in the new Democratic minority after Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) announced Friday she would seek to remain as party leader. While House liberals would be expected to line up behind Clyburn, Hoyer — a favorite of centrists and Blue Dogs — has announced endorsements from several members of the caucus, including Reps. Jared Polis (Colo.) and Jerrold Nadler (N.Y.).

Woolsey panned a proposal floated by the Hoyer camp for each of the top four House Democratic leaders to move down a post in order of their rank in the 112th Congress. That would make Pelosi the minority leader, Hoyer the whip, Clyburn the caucus chairman, Rep. John Larson (D-Conn.) the vice chairman and would bump the current vice chairman, Rep. Xavier Becerra (D-Calif.), out of the leadership. Both Larson and Becerra are running to keep their jobs.

“The bump-down scenario I don’t think is a solution,” Woolsey said. “My solution is not to force a runoff between John Larson and Xavier.”

She added that party leaders are trying to work out a deal that would satisfy the contenders and that she hoped it could be resolved in the coming days.

Woolsey said both the progressive caucus and the Congressional Black Caucus had to be represented “fully and with respect” in the Democratic leadership. “We’re going to play a key role in this next Congress, and that diversity has to be represented in the leadership,” she said.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: California; US: Colorado; US: Connecticut; US: Maryland; US: New York; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: blackcaucus; democrats; jamesclyburn; jaredpolis; jerroldnadler; johnlarson; lynnwoolsey; nancypelosi; progressivecaucus; progressives; raulgrijalva; stenyhoyer; xavierbecerra

1 posted on 11/09/2010 3:04:19 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

I’m rooting for Jim Clyburn... I want them to show the country how Far Left they are! Let hope he becomes their whip!

Go Jim, go!


2 posted on 11/09/2010 3:18:25 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: markomalley; Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ..

Maryland "Freak State" PING!

3 posted on 11/09/2010 3:18:45 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Muslims are not the problem, the rest of the world is! /s)
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To: markomalley

It is now apparent that the election of 2010 is a watershed for two reasons: Both the traditional Democrat and Republican parties will soon be no more. The Democrat is trending Socialist in the European manner (and the election of Clyburn would certainly hurry that fact along), while the Republican is trending Conservative. It is no longer easy to be the pragmatist who “votes for the individual” and thus blurs party lines. The ideological chasm that separates the party is now very wide and growing wider by the day. In effect, the individual who states, “the Democrats and Republicans are all the same,” has lost touch with reality.


4 posted on 11/09/2010 3:21:58 AM PST by Melchior
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To: Melchior

let the dims get as far left as they can.


5 posted on 11/09/2010 3:23:51 AM PST by scooby321
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To: markomalley

Clyburn will be a Good Face,For the Republicans! The Guy is an Idiot


6 posted on 11/09/2010 3:25:07 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: markomalley

Clyburn will be a Good Face,For the Republicans! The Guy is an Idiot


7 posted on 11/09/2010 3:25:16 AM PST by ballplayer
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To: markomalley

Isn’t Grijalva the one who took a bribe to appear on keffie olberwomann’s program?


8 posted on 11/09/2010 3:36:29 AM PST by Carley (WE SAW NOVEMBER FROM OUR HOUSE)
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To: markomalley
It's a trap designed to continue the charge that Republicans are racists for opposing Obama and Clyburn. When we run ads in 2012 for congress and the presidency criticizing Obama and Clyburn we will be called racist because they will feature our candidates attacking two blacks. I'm not joking.
9 posted on 11/09/2010 3:41:29 AM PST by Abbeville Conservative (Sarah Palin, the only cure for the RINO virus.)
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To: Abbeville Conservative

If its racism, how come minorities got elected on the GOP banner?

It ain’t the Dead White Man’s Party anymore.


10 posted on 11/09/2010 3:43:21 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Melchior

“...In effect, the individual who states, “the Democrats and Republicans are all the same,” has lost touch with reality...”

You make that statement too soon. We have to wait to see if the Republicans REALLY are conservative and represent those who put them into office. We have to remember that the party was (is) the party of compromise and of those who go along to get along.

Hopefully, the new office holders will stay the course and change the old ailing party but only time will tell.

Reality is that the old guard is still in power and RINOs rule the nest still today. Let’s see what happens and hope that the old guard is intelligent enough to see that their lifetime jobs are at risk.

I hope your statement becomes truth but I have serious doubts once these newbies are beaten into submission or corrupted by power.


11 posted on 11/09/2010 3:47:13 AM PST by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything, it begins to rot.)
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To: Abbeville Conservative

The “Race Card” is no longer honored anymore. All maxed out.


12 posted on 11/09/2010 3:53:24 AM PST by MCF
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To: MCF

The Race Card expired with Obummer’s election. White Guilt was absolved. And now its time to move on.


13 posted on 11/09/2010 3:56:03 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Melchior

Trending hard left not just trending Socialist in the European manner. I agree with your observation about the ending of the center we will have two political parties-left wing socialists and conservatives. The hard left allows for no middle ground.


14 posted on 11/09/2010 3:56:03 AM PST by Maine Mariner
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To: Abbeville Conservative

I am all for Clyburn getting the Whip’s post. He is also the chairman of the Congressional Black Caucus. You know, the same CBC that Rep.-Elect Allen West is going to join. If they want to scream racism, let them go and the good warrior will hold a special place to smack them down.

I see Allen West being the poison pill of truth the halls of Congress has needed for a very long time and I will buy season tickets when they are available.


15 posted on 11/09/2010 3:56:32 AM PST by mazda77 (Mike Hogan - JAX Mayor)
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To: DH

You are living in the past. I said the election was a watershed event. Already the revolutionaries within the two parties (the Tea Party qua Conservative, and the Progressive qua Socialist) are plotting strategy for 2012. There is no turning back. Huckabee, Romney, Rudy, Newt, etc., are ancient history. Likewise, an attempt to exchange Hillary for Obama would be a failed effort by the handful of Kennedy Democrats still around to turn back the clock and it would split the party. It is quite possible that Palin too has had her day in the sun. Like I said. A watershed event.


16 posted on 11/09/2010 4:05:33 AM PST by Melchior
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To: goldstategop

Clyburn is already Democrat Whip.
Normally, under such a scenario, the former Speaker steps down completely and retires either immediately, or soon after.
Everyone else would keep their position (assuming there are no other resignations.)

But Pelosi is shameless and impervious to public humiliation.
So she will gladly swallow the demotion, and Nanzi gets what Nanzi wants from the idiotic and pliable House Democrats.

So with Nanzi taking Steny’s job, and everyone else keeping theirs, Hoyer is the odd man out. Which is just how Nanzi and the progressives want it.
Hoyer is Pelosi’s long running rival, and she has figured out a way to dispatch him once and for all.

Hoyer was only Majority leader to keep the Blue Dogs in line and on the reservation and with a near extinct Blue Dog caucus, his services are no longer needed, and he has no base in the Democrat caucus left to support him.

The progressives in far Left districts are all that are left, and the Leftist leaders like Pelosi refuse to take responsibility for the historic defeat. Instead, they have blamed the Blue Dogs. And since only progressives are left, they will choose to believe the excuse that leaves progressives blameless. And so they will punish Hoyer, not Pelosi. The only question that remains is if Hoyer, seeing his leadership career over, retires. I suspect so.

This is absolutely delicious. And to sweeten it even more, all the defeated Blue Dogs have written a letter to the Democrat caucus imploring them to dump Pelosi. The Lame Duck session is likely to be consumed by Democrat infighting and recriminations. The Blue Dogs are going to spend the session trying to sabotage Pelosi.


17 posted on 11/09/2010 4:25:32 AM PST by counterpunch ("Some election nights are more fun than others" - Baraq Hussein 0bama)
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To: Abbeville Conservative

No one knows or cares who Clyburn is.
He’s already Democrat Whip.
But you didn’t know that... Further proving my point.


18 posted on 11/09/2010 4:27:48 AM PST by counterpunch ("Some election nights are more fun than others" - Baraq Hussein 0bama)
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To: goldstategop

Just by playing their game on their terms you lose.


19 posted on 11/09/2010 4:28:42 AM PST by counterpunch ("Some election nights are more fun than others" - Baraq Hussein 0bama)
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To: markomalley

Annointing the racist Clyburn as party whip is perfect. He’ll start a race war in the rat party. The entire country will benefit as everyone will see the fascist party ripped apart.


20 posted on 11/09/2010 4:36:33 AM PST by sergeantdave
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To: markomalley
Bettin' it all on zero black.

Let it ride baby, let it ride...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

21 posted on 11/09/2010 4:52:46 AM PST by The Comedian (I really missed you. Next time, I'll adjust for windage.)
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To: counterpunch; goldstategop

Good analysis CP.

Right now the Cong. Progressive Caucus makes up nearly 40% of the Dem. Reps. That percentage has grown not shrunk with this election.

The Congressional Dems are more socialistic than ever. If Hoyer goes, though, especially if it is a bad blood situation, we benefit as we’ll be able to peel off more moderate Dems.

Now, we get to benefit from “bi-partisanship”. This further bloodies Obama.

Watch for the media capons to work hard to split up the GOP, particularly in the Senate. They’ve already tried to get us to hate Kirk.


22 posted on 11/09/2010 4:53:41 AM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: counterpunch

Not sure about the last paragraph but the entire rest of your commentary is on the money.

Hoyer if you recall ran against Miss Madam for the job, and lost. She is a bitter old lefty and such insolence was not to be tolerated. Remember her call for civility, right, Nazi the civil.

Clyburn will be an excellent example for any conservative to attack, he is beyond a racist, he simply hates white people, and probably any other minority that tries to out do his base in handouts. Unfortunately guys like him and people like Miss Madam are far too strong in their base, like Bwaney Frank, to be removed so we just have to maginalize them or just let them do it for us. The best way it to ensure the dems never ever take control of the house again.


23 posted on 11/09/2010 5:01:49 AM PST by Mouton
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To: markomalley

Of course it will be Clyburn. He is Black. It is therefore forbidden for a Dem to vote for any other candidate.


24 posted on 11/09/2010 5:05:24 AM PST by MindBender26 (Fighting the "con" in Conservatism on FR since 1998.)
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To: goldstategop

Clyburn is the aXXhole who claimed the Tea Party called him n****r and spit at him when he was wading through the crowd and gloating at them last March

I say “YES” for a member of the perpetually offended race pimping victim class to become minority whip.

Someone has to carry Nancy Pelosi’s purse, why not a member of the CBC


25 posted on 11/09/2010 5:13:59 AM PST by silverleaf
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To: counterpunch

http://www.prisonplanet.com/video-proves-tea-party-activist-did-not-spit-on-dem.html

meet Jim Clyburn


26 posted on 11/09/2010 5:15:03 AM PST by silverleaf
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To: Melchior
I think you are way to early to make that statement.

If the Clinton side of the dem party decides that harming the party for a few years is worth taking out the communist in nuclear fashion then you will have a dem party only a little less demented, though one must remember Hillary care does not make them to far off from the Obama side of the party. Clintons took credit for the bills coming out of a republican house and senate to look centrist, but they really are not.

Rino's are still in charge of the republican party and unless a real hard line conservative can win the Republican primary and then the presidential election Rinos will still be in charge.

27 posted on 11/09/2010 5:23:01 AM PST by Lady Heron
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To: MindBender26

Here in South Carolina, Clyburn acts like he is a king.

Criticize him in any way and the earth will stop rotating, the sun will not give its light, and all creatures will fall silent.

Or they should, anyway. And they’re all guilty of racism if they don’t!

;^)


28 posted on 11/09/2010 5:26:45 AM PST by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease!")
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To: goldstategop

Ken Hamblin, the Black Avenger (black talk show host out of Denver some years ago) absolved my White Guilt some years ago. A decade or more.

Here, I found a copy of the certificate he used to have on his web site:

http://www.radical-conservative.org/certificate.html


29 posted on 11/09/2010 6:00:36 AM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: markomalley
That steny hoyer he's a :

First he beats a black Army Vet and now he wants to beat Ole Jim Clyburn.


30 posted on 11/09/2010 6:21:49 AM PST by USS Alaska
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To: elcid1970

The saddest element of current race relations in America is the belief held by way too many Blacks that they can’t be successful without government (i.e. the White man’s) help (and his free money.)

And who sells them this BS?

Jessie Jackson, Sharpton, Clyburn, et.al


31 posted on 11/09/2010 7:31:10 AM PST by MindBender26 (Fighting the "con" in Conservatism on FR since 1998.)
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To: elcid1970; FreedomPoster

Did you ever read “White Guilt” by Shelby Steele?

Steele, like Obama, is half black, from Chicago and was a student radical in college.

But about 10 years after college, he work up one morning and realized the Black Liberalism was nothing more than a new set of chains.

He is now the Distinguished Herbert Hoover Professor at Stamford, and an incredible writer.

Recommend his works highly.


32 posted on 11/09/2010 7:44:55 AM PST by MindBender26 (Fighting the "con" in Conservatism on FR since 1998.)
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To: MindBender26

While I’ve seen it, and probably should, I have not.


33 posted on 11/09/2010 8:20:23 AM PST by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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To: MindBender26

Will check out Shelby Steele.

Meanwhile, “White Guilt” reminds me of radio host Ken Hamblin, AKA The Black Avenger, who used to issue “Certificates of Absolution” to those who requested to be released from their own feelings of white guilt.

Still have mine. It was certified to be in effect by Ken Hamblin “or any other thinking black American”.


34 posted on 11/09/2010 10:10:08 AM PST by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease!")
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To: markomalley

Hoyer is telling Clyburn to ride in the back.


35 posted on 11/09/2010 10:13:49 AM PST by Hoodat ( .For the weapons of our warfare are mighty in God for pulling down strongholds.d)
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