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Missle Launch and Obama's Early Return, Are they Connected?

Posted on 11/09/2010 1:02:04 PM PST by Scythian

Any thoughts to whether or not this missle, which was launched from the sea 30 miles off our coast and Obama's early return might be connected? Perhaps the Military/CIA or whomever have requested that he return and quickly? What do you think, any connection?


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1 posted on 11/09/2010 1:02:06 PM PST by Scythian
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To: Scythian

North Korea playing tuff?


2 posted on 11/09/2010 1:02:50 PM PST by Dansong
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To: Scythian
Well, everybody has been saying that Hussein needs a 9/11 to get his approval ratings up.

Looks like somebody's willing to cooperate.

3 posted on 11/09/2010 1:03:39 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government has no other end, but the preservation of property." --John Locke)
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To: Scythian

“Any thoughts to whether or not this missle, which was launched from the sea 30 miles off our coast and Obama’s early return might be connected?”

If something bad is about to happen, what good would having him here do? There are beds he can hide under all over the world.


4 posted on 11/09/2010 1:04:37 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: Scythian

Maybe this is an October Surprise for the Procrastinator In Chief.


5 posted on 11/09/2010 1:04:51 PM PST by earlJam
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To: Scythian
Personally, I think the reason he left the country in the first place was because he knew the largest holder of U.S. debt,China, would blow a gasket after The Fed announced it was going to devalue the dollar.

Notice he took how many warships with him? He made damn sure his ass was protected. Screw L.A., S.F., Half Moon Bay, etc.

6 posted on 11/09/2010 1:05:37 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Scythian

How early is his early return?
I didn’t know he was returning early. Just asking


7 posted on 11/09/2010 1:06:27 PM PST by J Edgar
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To: Scythian

Is this about the M-I-S-S-I-L-E?


8 posted on 11/09/2010 1:06:34 PM PST by La Enchiladita (It's Morning in America!! And darkest night in California....:(:()
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To: Scythian

A nuclear tipped missile launched from a freighter 30 miles off the coast would be immensely effective.

There would be no escape, as the missile would touch down in less than 5 minutes.

Imagine primitive Hiroshima-class devices detonating in downtown Manhattan or in DC, as well as a few other choice east and west coast cities, all within minutes of eachother.

Game over.


9 posted on 11/09/2010 1:07:18 PM PST by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: Scythian

Guess I missed something — When was it announced that he would be coming home early?? What was the putative reason?? What events will he be skipping?? (G20??)

Enquiring minds want to know... ;)


10 posted on 11/09/2010 1:07:18 PM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Scythian

He’s returning because the demo was a success and the customer wants to sign the paperwork right away.


11 posted on 11/09/2010 1:08:11 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Well, everybody has been saying that Hussein needs a 9/11 to get his approval ratings up.

I saw that clip on Glenn Beck yesterday. Sickening. These Libtards have diseased minds. Actually welcoming a terrorist attack on U.S. soil just so Ubama will get a bump in the polls.

12 posted on 11/09/2010 1:08:26 PM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Scythian

I watched the Video on Youtube, it looks like twin contrails, one white, one black, - Perhaps someone was boosting a scramjet up to speed, or a mix of booster, solid to get going, with a liquid fueled main engine. Perhaps an ABM snapshot test.


13 posted on 11/09/2010 1:08:33 PM PST by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: J Edgar

Obama to cut short Indonesian trip due to volcanic ash
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/11/09/indonesia.obama.visit/index.html?hpt=T2


14 posted on 11/09/2010 1:09:06 PM PST by Scythian
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To: Scythian
He is leaving to go to the G20 summit.....

But did you see this article:

Could it be China warning the US after Obama's visit to India.

http://www.kashmirwatch.com/showarticles.php?subaction=showfull&id=1289331373&archive=&start_from=&ucat=3&var0news=value0news

US Strategy to Pitch India against China

Kashmir Watch, Nov 9

By Zaheerul Hassan

President Barack Obama has announced $10 billion trade deals with India and claimed that the deal will create 53,670 U.S. jobs. He brought some of the changes in export rules to make it easier for U.S. companies to do business with the nation of 1.2 billion people. US is also relaxing control on India's purchase of "dual use" technologies that could be used for civilian or military purposes, have been top priorities for the business community. The commercial deals include the purchase of thirty three (33) 737s Boeing by India's Spice Jet Airlines; the Indian military's plans to buy aircraft engines from General Electric; and preliminary agreement between Boeing and the Indian Air Force on the purchase of 10 C17s. Though, Obama’s mentioning of trade deal and creation of jobs in US may attribute in up coming democrats' midterm election partly and also depicting an attempt of put his domestic economy back on track.

It is mentionable here that Obama also promised to support Indian nomination as permanent member of United Nation Security Council. Though, overtly the US leader’s visit seem to be a business tour but his covert agenda could be to promote and present India as second super power while pitching her against China. In this way she will be able to get her ultimate objective of hitting two birds in one stone.

Interestingly, at the same time, President Obama declared Pakistan as American’s strategic partner and deliberately avoided of making any lose statement on Pakistan’s related issues. In this connection while addressing the Common Session of Indian Parliament, he advocated the continuation of peace process between Pakistan and India. He also stressed that confrontation on Kashmir issue should be resolved bilaterally, however US can come forward as a mediator if desired by two countries. In short, India failed to achieve optimum results of threshing out Pakistan on the issue of extremisms since Obama has shown maturity by not involving Pakistan in terrorism. He asked both the countries to resolve the disputes for establishing permanent peace.

In fact, Obama exposed US desire openly while saying that the relationship between the two great powers (India and U.S) "will be one of the defining and indispensable partnerships of the 21st century." Declaring India as great power has to be translated and viewed in its true perspective. Unfortunate part of Obama’s visit is that he backed a country where millions of people have been victimized by the extremists’ Hindus and armed forces. During this visit Obama did not mention clearly about human violation of India. However, to gain more sympathies Indian government ensured that American president to stay in Taj Mehal but at the same time never been allowed or to visit Kashmir, Golden Temple and Babri Mosque. Obama said that he intended to send a signal by making Mumbai the first stop of the trip and by staying at the Taj, which was a target during the terror siege." The United States and India stand united," he said. "We'll never forget." This action of organizers of the visit is enough to show true motive of secular state (India) and so called civilized democratic country (USA). Would some out of Obama’s staff would like to clarify that why he only preferred to show solidarity with Hindus only and failed to say something on the brutality against Kashmiries, Maoists, Sikhs and Christians.

The other angle of the visit depicts that Obama’s visit would be adding tension between China-India and Pakistan. Obama has also broadcasted his underline message more openly as compare to the past i.e. making India militarily and economically strong. The American’s president visit and arms pacts with India are being viewed with concern by the China, Pakistan, Russia and Sri Lanka. An arms race, conventional and nuclear, between India and china is now gaining prominence as India is building her weapon piles increasing day by day. Some analysts have also started to view India competing with China in an arms race rather than acquiring weapons merely for defensive purposes. It is mentionable here that India is also developing her nuclear and missile system with the help of Israel and US. The UN Watchdog “IAEA’ should inspect Indian nuclear programme since it has pathetic security arrangement and could prove danger to the human lives again. Though, Indian concerned authorities are trying to tighten the security at nuke plant sites but no worthwhile improvement has been yet noticed. Recently, security was tightened in Maharashtra's Ratnagiri district after villagers clashed with officials of the Nuclear Power Corporation of India. The corporation was constructing a cluster of nuclear power plants in Ratnagiri under the Indo-US nuclear agreement. The villagers, opposing the nuclear establishment, attacked and chased away the officials who were visiting the villages to take soil samples. India is also planning to buy Israeli Missile System. New Delhi has also launched major effort to develop laser weapons for military applications. Reportedly, Indian military is working on laser weapons for deploying on its submarines, destroyers, air force fighters and transport planes.

Actually, Indo-US-Israel collaboration is emerging the world most dangerous collaboration. Few days back, US National Security Adviser Tom Donilon while briefing reporters said that Obama intends the trip to be "a full embrace of India's rise." At this occasion Indian officials Shivshankar Menon endorsed that he doesn’t think that there’s an area of human endeavor in which we do not actually cooperate.

In this connection, very authenticated reports illustrated that: (one) Israeli systems are being tested in India, (two) India is a stake-holder in Iron Dome and David's Sling systems as these are being tested in India, (two) systems have been tested in controlled environment and thus have not gained the un-questioned confidence of Indian side, (fourth) Japanese were also called for demonstration of Israeli missile systems. They remained skeptical and un-committed; (fifth)India is also persisting with its Prithvi Air Defence System PAD in order to keep its intentions are to contain China and stopped Pakistan for further developments.

As a matter of fact after disintegration of Soviet Union, uni-polar system emerged. The new great game and number of new cold wars like: Indo-Pak, Indo-China, North- South Korea, US-Iran and Sri Lanka-India have been started. The regional and global security environment has been changed drastically because of 9/11, American invasions in Iraq and Afghanistan. India took U-turn and became U.S regional and global ally against China and Russia. India in its pursuit of acquiring high technology has been making headway both politically and scientifically. Recently, Indian Defense Minister, AK Antony, to the US marked the highlight of Indo-US relation. Mr Antony had meetings with Secretary Gates, Secretary Clinton and NSA James Jones. Obama administration has been pushing India in awarding defense contracts to the American companies. Indian who is already purchasing arms to restructure her armed forces has welcomed US lucrative defense contracts for transferring high technology.

Concluding I must say that though Obama tried to adopt balanced approach while talking about India Pakistan issues but never forgotten his ultimate objective of putting India against China. The arms race between China and India would definitely going to be speed up. She already tested Agni-II, a revamped Agni-II in the Wheeler Island, off the Orissa coast. Agni-II has two stages and both are powered by solid propellants. It has several features of advanced technology. The missile, which can carry nuclear warheads, can be transported both by rail and road. Its projected range is 2750 to 3000 km. Indian second missile system Agni-III is ready for Operational Induction. According to Defence Minister Mr A K Antony, the 3000 km range Agni-III missile is ready for induction into the armed forces. The nuclear capable ballistic missile would give a boost to India's credible minimum deterrence as no other missile in the Indian arsenal has the range to strike targets deep inside China. She also carried out Strategic Weapons Storages in Bikaner, Jodhpur, Jallandar, Jaisalmer, Bhuj, Bhatinda and Barmer.

World community and US administration should know that Indian design of storage, deployment, development of nuke weapons and recently concluded defence pacts with Israel and USA are serious threats to the regional and global peace. There is a need to stop and condemn Indian aggressive nature of expansionism rather than declaring her a great power and future member of Security Council.

Posted on 10 Nov 2010 by Webmaster
15 posted on 11/09/2010 1:09:16 PM PST by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialst States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world or Obamaville USSA.)
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To: Dansong

Could be the Norks jealous about the G-20.


16 posted on 11/09/2010 1:09:45 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012)
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To: Waverunner

It was definitely not a plane, it was literally going verticle, straight up.


17 posted on 11/09/2010 1:09:53 PM PST by Scythian
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

B.O.’s approval numbers go up whenever he leaves the country. I think if he would stay away longer, he might regain some of his losses. People feel safer when he is not in D.C.


18 posted on 11/09/2010 1:10:09 PM PST by Faith
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If the military or CIA asked him to do anything, he would tell them to go pound sand.

It seems like North Korea is testing one of their new sub’s capabilities.

It appears we were caught totally flat-footed and demonstrated that we have no control over what’s happening in the coastal areas around the US.


19 posted on 11/09/2010 1:10:48 PM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances, and it advances relentlessly , freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: Scythian

He’s coming home early? :^(


20 posted on 11/09/2010 1:12:49 PM PST by pepperdog (Why are Democrats Afraid of a Voter ID Law?)
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To: Dansong

You know it.


21 posted on 11/09/2010 1:12:56 PM PST by tuckrdout ( A fool vents all his feelings, but a wise man holds them back. Prov.29:11)
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To: Scythian

Where it took off from is less of a concern than where it comes down? Has it come down, and where?


22 posted on 11/09/2010 1:13:30 PM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Scythian
Perhaps the X-51 .. It uses a solid rocket to boost up.
http://www.designation-systems.net/dusrm/app4/x-51.html

23 posted on 11/09/2010 1:14:01 PM PST by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: Texas Eagle
What you saw was a missile trail but what you didn't see was George Clooney kill a dump truck load of terrorist and divert the missile five seconds before launch.
24 posted on 11/09/2010 1:14:02 PM PST by soupbone1
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While it might have been a classified ABM test it is also possible that someone privately launched a large rocket. It is not clear how big the “missile” is but it is moving fast since the exaust trail remains tight and does not fan out as you might see from a large missile moving more slowly through its first stage burn. That fast “burst” of initial flight seems like an ABM or large private rocket.


25 posted on 11/09/2010 1:14:25 PM PST by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Dansong

I don’t think North Korea has any SLBMs, but the ChiComs do, and they are probably none too please with “the one” getting chummy with India.


26 posted on 11/09/2010 1:15:16 PM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: Daveinyork
Check Ebay.
27 posted on 11/09/2010 1:15:38 PM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult
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To: J Edgar

He’s leaving Indonesia early for the Volcano so he is not disrupted in air travel. I did not read that he was coming home early. Did not read where he was going early. Maybe he will find a battle field where the USA won and apologize.


28 posted on 11/09/2010 1:17:45 PM PST by jy1297
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To: Scythian
IF there were no other reason for the early return the conspiracy may hold water, however, there has been talk about returning early or even completely skipping Indonesia for several days and it completely makes sense to return early because of the volcano. I don't see the Secret Service letting him stick around with that risk- and they have the final say in regards to these type of events.

The other thing is we have absolutely no idea what the rocket was. For all we know, it was some amateur rocketeers shooting one off or a military test they don't want us to know about. We have some amateur rocketeers down in Texas near Midland that launch some pretty big suckers.

It is premature to assume anything at this point.

29 posted on 11/09/2010 1:20:02 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Scythian

bm


30 posted on 11/09/2010 1:20:14 PM PST by gunnyg (WE ARE BEHIND "ENEMY WITHIN" LINES, SURROUNDED, November? Ha! ...So Few Can "grok" It.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

TWA 800 West?


31 posted on 11/09/2010 1:21:14 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Scythian

Where is that clip on the 4 missiles that fit into a shipping container?


32 posted on 11/09/2010 1:21:59 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (The candidate they smear and ridicule the most is the one they fear the most.)
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To: Scythian

I thought it was Michelle’s firm handshake with the Indonesian poohbah that was to blame.


33 posted on 11/09/2010 1:22:59 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: RJS1950

I launch “private” rockets. That’s not a rocket from any of the amateur guys I know. We would also have to file a NOTAM (Notice to Airman) concerning a launch. Not doing this on a rocket this size would be stupendously stupid.

And from the rocketry listserve I’m on, no one knows anything about the launch either.

Nope, not one of us. None affiliated with any rocket guys in the U.S anyway.


34 posted on 11/09/2010 1:23:08 PM PST by morkfork (Candygram for Mongo)
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To: jy1297

Anyone know if Obama has stopped the NAVY from using Active Sonar by our 688 Class subs off the coast of CA to assuage the EPA? The ChiComs may have flanked us to test our ears. The Russians were STUPID enough to sell them a Typhoon class Boomer.


35 posted on 11/09/2010 1:24:46 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Scythian

Could be he’s coming back to find out why the launch against DC went awry and headed in the wrong direction.


36 posted on 11/09/2010 1:24:46 PM PST by Iron Munro (Buy Ammo, Food and TP - You cannot consume what no one has produced.)
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To: ncfool
But did you see this article:

Third time

37 posted on 11/09/2010 1:25:40 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: Scythian

Actually I heard it was a large flock of seagulls. The large contrail is result of the birds eating to much Kimchi. They same ones that down that S. Korea ship.


38 posted on 11/09/2010 1:25:48 PM PST by BushCountry (I spoken many wise words in jest, but no comparison to the number of stupid words spoken in earnest)
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To: Westbrook

Keep in mind his car was rigged with the nuclear switch and codes for this trip.


39 posted on 11/09/2010 1:26:17 PM PST by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: Scythian

Go off half cocked much? You should have this thread locked before it turn into a joke.


40 posted on 11/09/2010 1:26:25 PM PST by McGruff (A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs)
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To: Calvin Locke
Another spontaneously exploding fuel tank.
41 posted on 11/09/2010 1:27:38 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government has no other end, but the preservation of property." --John Locke)
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To: Scythian

Re TWA 800...

http://gunnyg.wordpress.com/2010/11/09/was-twa-800-shot-down-by-a-military-missile-war-on-you-breaking-alternative-news-2/


42 posted on 11/09/2010 1:27:59 PM PST by gunnyg (WE ARE BEHIND "ENEMY WITHIN" LINES, SURROUNDED, November? Ha! ...So Few Can "grok" It.)
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To: Scythian

But where did it go? Where did land? or was is intercepted?


43 posted on 11/09/2010 1:29:00 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Scythian

But where did it go? Where did land? or was is intercepted?


44 posted on 11/09/2010 1:29:05 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Scythian

But where did it go? Where did land? or was is intercepted?


45 posted on 11/09/2010 1:29:11 PM PST by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Scythian

Waiting for Janet Napolitano to come out and say, “Because the missile completely took us by surprise and we have no idea where it came from, shows that the system is working.”


46 posted on 11/09/2010 1:29:23 PM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't skipper a boat, Can't drive, Can't ski, Can't fly. But they KNOW what's best!)
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To: N. Theknow

The Type 094 Chinese Ballistic Submarines’ main weapon, the JL-2 would not be operational until 2010. According to GlobalSecurity.org.


47 posted on 11/09/2010 1:32:05 PM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: N. Theknow

TSA has announced that they have banned all missiles on passenger flights now.


48 posted on 11/09/2010 1:32:05 PM PST by CJ Wolf
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To: earlJam

The morons were supposed to launch and take out LA,....but prior to the election! They can’t even get that right! Look, make me President and when you wake up tomorrow morning the world will be a much safer place. That’s because Iran, Yemen, and North Korea will cease to exist. And I do mean cease.


49 posted on 11/09/2010 1:34:30 PM PST by Doc Savage (Stay Thirsty My Friend!!)
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To: RJS1950

I’m sure this was explained but exactly how did a TV helicopter just happen to be filming and just happened to be focused on 35 miles off shore at exactly the right moment to capture this rather brief in-flight video???????????


50 posted on 11/09/2010 1:38:04 PM PST by Doc Savage (Stay Thirsty My Friend!!)
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