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Pentagon calls mystery missile 'unexplained,' cannot rule out threat
NY Post ^ | 11/09/2010 | NY Post

Posted on 11/09/2010 1:45:41 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour

The Pentagon said Tuesday that a missile launch off the southern coast of California remained “unexplained” and that its mysterious origins meant that it was not possible to rule out any threat to the homeland, Fox News Channel reported.

Earlier Tuesday, NORAD (North American Aerospace Defense Command) and NORTHCOM (United States Northern Command) officials told Fox there was no threat, but Pentagon Spokesman Col. Dave Lapan would not confirm that because the military does not know what the missile was or where it came from.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: 800; californiamissile; contrail; flight800; mysterymissile; notbreakingnews; tinfoilbrigade; twa800; twaflight800
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1 posted on 11/09/2010 1:45:44 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Where did it land?
2 posted on 11/09/2010 1:47:08 PM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Unexplained? Yeah, right. They know what it is.


3 posted on 11/09/2010 1:47:09 PM PST by Wee-Weed Up
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Muzzies practicing for the next “Big One.”


4 posted on 11/09/2010 1:47:26 PM PST by Palladin (PA. Goes Republican! Gloating feels good!!)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
Lapan added that the incident did not appear to be a regularly scheduled test, as no warnings to mariners or airmen appeared to be issued ahead of its launch.

No FAA NOTMS were issued for the launch or were the MOA, Vandenberg or Point Mugu NAS Test Ranges activated

5 posted on 11/09/2010 1:47:45 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: Wee-Weed Up

We all better hope so.


6 posted on 11/09/2010 1:47:52 PM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: Wee-Weed Up

China/Russia saying that they are pissed about QE2?


7 posted on 11/09/2010 1:48:29 PM PST by whitedog57
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

can’t rule out a threat???


8 posted on 11/09/2010 1:49:07 PM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

According to a bunch of guys over on Flightinfo.com there were CIVILIAN aircraft airborne and in the test area when this thing launched.

No warning was given.


9 posted on 11/09/2010 1:49:13 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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To: Wee-Weed Up

Who was that msm person saying zero needs an OK city??? With him out of country, I am very suspicious.


10 posted on 11/09/2010 1:49:44 PM PST by gidget7 ("When a man assumes a public trust, he should consider himself as public property." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Oh great, was it a handheld shooting at a plane? How big was the glare from it?
Now if it was some homeless guy with a joint they’ed be all over him, a missile , we don’t know..oh well...
sounds like an uhbummer set up...


11 posted on 11/09/2010 1:50:02 PM PST by aces
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To: Palladin
Sooner or later those j@ckasses are going to get lucky and in spite of their own monumental incompetance actually do damage.
12 posted on 11/09/2010 1:50:17 PM PST by Pietro
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
If the Pentagon can't rule it out as a threat, it was a threat.


13 posted on 11/09/2010 1:50:41 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government has no other end, but the preservation of property." --John Locke)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

This is a joke, right?


14 posted on 11/09/2010 1:51:09 PM PST by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

No FAA NOTMS were issued for the launch or were the MOA, Vandenberg or Point Mugu NAS Test Ranges activated


What’s the bottom line?


15 posted on 11/09/2010 1:51:27 PM PST by unkus
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To: BenLurkin

OldMissileer: “That is a sub launched ballistic missile and it looks as if its’ trajectory was taking it toward Kwajalein Atoll where we target our western test launches.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2624382/posts?page=47#47


16 posted on 11/09/2010 1:51:36 PM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Our 2010 victory was won the Tea Party Way, not the RINO way.)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Okay, so. wait. they have no idea who launched it, but there’s no cause for alarm? I saw it last night, it was like the big Vandenberg launches except no meandering and it as out west instead of up north. Like a big rocket..

If this was not freindly, well then this is NOT GOOD. It was just off the coast at a city with 11 million people. It headed west over the pacific, if it had headed over the mainland... what THEN?


17 posted on 11/09/2010 1:51:39 PM PST by moodyskeptic (Cultural warrior with a keyboard)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

So an unexplained missile launch off the coast of California

...but that’s not a threat?


18 posted on 11/09/2010 1:51:52 PM PST by jerry557
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Obama hit the wrong button on his handheld?


19 posted on 11/09/2010 1:52:21 PM PST by samtheman
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Wait a minute. Haven’t the authorities rushed to assure the public that this was not terrorist related?


20 posted on 11/09/2010 1:52:21 PM PST by Nachoman (Think of life as an adventure you don't survive.)
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I’m sorry, but I have a real hard time believing that we don’t know anything about this launch.


21 posted on 11/09/2010 1:52:28 PM PST by Truth29
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Late payment notice on our national credit card bills? LOL

I refuse to believe that our military does not know what in the hell is going on.


22 posted on 11/09/2010 1:52:49 PM PST by Gator113 (Beauty will devour the Beast in 2012. Kill "Obamamosque"@ Ground Zero)
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To: GeronL

>>can’t rule out a threat???<<

Well, if it wasn’t us, and it was not something coordinated with us, then that is a big DUH!

If that is true, it is, by definition, a threat. The only question now is what SPECIFIC threatening message we were supposed to get and why.


23 posted on 11/09/2010 1:53:44 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Well no one can tell me that the fact that it was launched just after Bush’s book came out is any conincidence! /sarc


24 posted on 11/09/2010 1:54:38 PM PST by bigbob
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
If the Pentagon can't rule it out as a threat, it was a threat.

That's right, and this means we could be closer to the brink of war than the Cuban Missle Crisis.

25 posted on 11/09/2010 1:55:01 PM PST by Never on my watch (Never let a kid play with matches or run with scissors; and never give a gavel to a Democrat!)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

.....and don’t forget this

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-492804/The-uninvited-guest-Chinese-sub-pops-middle-U-S-Navy-exercise-leaving-military-chiefs-red-faced.html


26 posted on 11/09/2010 1:55:21 PM PST by Roccus (Quondo Omni Flunkus Mortati)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Maybe it’s just me, but it seems to me like, as a threat, it was traveling in the WRONG DIRECTION. :O


27 posted on 11/09/2010 1:55:33 PM PST by The Duke
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To: RobRoy

and why is this not THE story of the day for the entire media?

Has Obama been asked about it?


28 posted on 11/09/2010 1:55:58 PM PST by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com <--- My Fiction/ Science Fiction Board)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March; OldMissileer
Ah! Good. Someone there saw it come down no doubt and we will soon have confirmation.
29 posted on 11/09/2010 1:56:08 PM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
told Fox there was no threat, but Pentagon Spokesman Col. Dave Lapan would not confirm that because the military does not know what the missile was or where it came from

Well, that's reassuring.

30 posted on 11/09/2010 1:56:25 PM PST by Cementjungle
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To: Nachoman

Yeah, shouldn’t Janet Napolitano be coming on to tell us everything worked the way it should?


31 posted on 11/09/2010 1:56:52 PM PST by NEMDF
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

I don’t know which is more unnerving.
That we don’t know what it is
or
The Pentagon doesn’t know what it is..........or whose it is.....or where it went..........


32 posted on 11/09/2010 1:56:59 PM PST by Red Badger (The House finally fell on Nancy Pelosi..........)
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To: moodyskeptic

You and everyone else who saw it, and in particular those who took pictures of it on their cellphones or cameras, will be getting a visit very soon from the FBI. You will be told to keep your mouth shut or else! and your cameras cellphones, and other recording devices will be confiscated.

Just ask the more than 150 eyewitnesses who watched the rocket that brought down TWA 800 on a clear July evening in 1996.


33 posted on 11/09/2010 1:57:33 PM PST by Palladin (PA. Goes Republican! Gloating feels good!!)
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To: Never on my watch

Ah, we bombled their embassy accidentally-on purpose and it all worked out. Ofcourse that was over a decade ago, trillions of dollars ago and many technology exchanges ago. We had an asshat at the helm then too, come to think of it.


34 posted on 11/09/2010 1:57:42 PM PST by riri
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To: Truth29

It has happened before. I remember a story a couple of years ago, or so, about an airline pilot in the same area who saw a missle launch and pass through the area of the sky he was flying. It even appeared on the live airline rader site. I want to say he was just leaving LAX headed west when the thing went by his aircraft.


35 posted on 11/09/2010 1:57:46 PM PST by mazda77 (Mike Hogan - JAX Mayor)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

China was pissed about our QE2 stunt, as was Russia. Perhaps firing a missile from a sub aimed away from our shores was a not-so-subtle attention getter.


36 posted on 11/09/2010 1:57:57 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Wee-Weed Up

They may not.


37 posted on 11/09/2010 1:58:02 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Truth29
I’m sorry, but I have a real hard time believing that we don’t know anything about this launch.

Oh I think the Military has a good idea what happened, they are just either still pissing themselves or they are too scared to tell us.

38 posted on 11/09/2010 1:59:07 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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However one unnamed senior defense official added: "There was no threat to the homeland."

Someone just launched a large missile 35 miles from our coast and we don't know anything about it but there's no threat to the homeland? What a joke.

39 posted on 11/09/2010 2:00:09 PM PST by Reagan is King
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To: The Duke

“Maybe it’s just me, but it seems to me like, as a threat, it was traveling in the WRONG DIRECTION. :O”

Looked like it was headed to Hawaii. Anyone checked to see if it’s still there?


40 posted on 11/09/2010 2:00:09 PM PST by Rebelbase (Palin/Christie 2012y)
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To: Cementjungle
...told Fox there was no threat, but Pentagon Spokesman Col. Dave Lapan would not confirm that because the military does not know what the missile was or where it came from...

Well, that's reassuring.

Give the Pentagon a break. They are stretched very thin trying to implement the repeal of "Don't ask, don't tell."

Missile launches are so 1980's. They forbid homosexuality back then.

41 posted on 11/09/2010 2:00:58 PM PST by Never on my watch (Never let a kid play with matches or run with scissors; and never give a gavel to a Democrat!)
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To: GeronL

Based on the information at hand at this point, this is absolutely huge. This sort of thing with no government knowledge suggests I need to get in my car with all my worldly possessions I can stuff in it and head from Seattle to my farm in Kentucky RIGHT NOW with LOTS of extra full gas cans.

Something is not right with this.


42 posted on 11/09/2010 2:01:37 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

Either our guys really don’t know what it was or they know and are not telling. Either way, ignorance or subterfuge it’s of great concern, IMHO.

What if it’s trajectory had been toward the West Coast and not out toward open sea? Are they telling us a missile this size could be successfully launched on 35 miles from our shores and we wouldn’t know what hit us had it come out way?

For my money that’s simply inexcusable. Has our national defense slipped to the point that a ship capable of firing a missile clearly visible from 35 miles away could get into that area without being detected and identified.

I am hoping there is a better explanation forthcoming.


43 posted on 11/09/2010 2:02:33 PM PST by jwparkerjr (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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Of course it could just be one of these guys, in which case I would not want to be them it they decided to launch one without getting the proper permits first...


44 posted on 11/09/2010 2:02:33 PM PST by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour
If the Pentagon truly doesn't know, that's bad news.

If they do know but aren't telling us, that's not good news, either.

However, I think I'd prefer the latter to the former. If it's the latter, at least they're on top of things and think, for whatever reason, we don't need to know.

The former means that the military is having a "WTF" moment and are blundering around in the dark.

45 posted on 11/09/2010 2:02:48 PM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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New Hidden Missile System Unknown To Feds

The promotional video for the Club K Missile system is part of the marketing campaign by a private, Russian-based weapons manufacturer. The cruise missile system is hidden in a 40-foot shipping container. It can fire four long range satellite-guided missiles from a ship, train or tractor-trailer.

The Club K is being marketed at international weapons shows as a military weapon. In the hands of a terrorist group the container could easily be smuggled into the United states. It is so new most international security experts have never heard of it. "To look at an entire weapons system that can be put on a cargo ship and deployed is frightening," said Brent Brown an international security consultant, "It is a pretty devastating piece of technology that could have all kinds of collateral damange."

46 posted on 11/09/2010 2:03:25 PM PST by arkady_renko
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To: jwparkerjr
I am hoping there is a better explanation forthcoming.

Would probably be a good idea at this point...

47 posted on 11/09/2010 2:04:08 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
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Well at least this beats the Flight 800 case where 300 people didn't see one.
48 posted on 11/09/2010 2:04:30 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: BenLurkin

What did it miss?


49 posted on 11/09/2010 2:04:35 PM PST by Gator113 (Beauty will devour the Beast in 2012. Kill "Obamamosque"@ Ground Zero)
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To: The Magical Mischief Tour

They know exactly what it is and who fired it.


50 posted on 11/09/2010 2:05:27 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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