Skip to comments.L.A. ‘mystery missile’ may have been "errant" launch, experts say (Read that "accidental")
Posted on 11/09/2010 3:33:25 PM PST by The Magical Mischief Tour
Military officials remain stumped about the mysterious projectile spotted in the sky off the Southern California coast, but aerospace experts said it appeared to be an errant missile launch.
Pentagon officials are looking into what they have called an "unexplained contrail" after a KCBS news helicopter shot video late Monday of a luminous point hurtling through the sky followed by a long vapor trail.
The lack of explanation from the Pentagon makes Caceres believe it may have been a mistake -- perhaps a defense exercise launched by accident.
(Excerpt) Read more at latimesblogs.latimes.com ...
In any case, if this were a planned event, military officials would have known weeks in advance.
“There is a safety routine that the government goes through,” Ellison said. “Everything needs to be cleared away. They’re not going to take any risks.”
Looks like Clinton just found where he lost those launch codes.
What is fascinating is that it is now being claimed that it is a contrail. And the evidence is pretty compelling that it is.
What this means to me is that the two look a lot alike and even experts can be fooled. I’m assuming it was a missile launch, though, since “they” said it was.
Yes, I’m confused... how do you “accidentally” launch a missile, did they trip over something?
Hope it landed in Tehran
We have no launch faclities 35 miles west of LA.... just a lot of deep water.
Well, its clear its a contrail... but its a contrail from an outbound missile, a very large one at that.
In the video you can clearly see the glow of the engines at the source point of the plume.
not supposed to be mistakes...I remember seeing something simular in the early 80’s but it crossed several states. they never reported what that was either.
Assuming it was a missile, if you don't know who launched it, how in Hades can you know what the intent was?!
See silentknight’s post #213 here. I’m thinking it’s case closed.
I just saw it on the local TV station. Sure looks like a large missile to me.
which begs the question: did it go into outer space or go into orbit. if not where did it land?
I’ve never been on a sub, or anything else that fires a missile, but I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that there’s no way in hell something that big can be launched by mistake.
I’m SURE there is a process that must be deliberately followed. This thing didn’t go off by someone hitting a ‘wrong button’ or dropping something on a keyboard. No way....
The North Koreans just got it backwards. That’s all.
Now that I think about it, “errant” could be very different from “accidental”. But it still is very strange.
One thing we will know is that we won’t get the truth.
Did anybody ask NORAD if they were tracking it? Where did it land? If it is ballistic it must follow the parabola and land somewhere. It certainly didn’t resemble something like a shuttle launch where it goes UP in a hurry. That contrail was bending in the boost phase, right?
Satellite will have it... right down to where it landed. Retrieval might take some time but anything is possible.
Many questions beg answers, foremost being if it aint ours how did they get in so close for a launch? Just who is playing show and tell?
Wonder if there were any Iranian ships in the area?
Doesn’t Vandenberg AFB launch missiles? But then again, what another poster wrote ... “what, did somebody trip over a wire or something?” ... I remember reading that countdown clocks start weeks before a launch and shortly before launch it’s all automatic ... wonder if somebody plugged their cellphone in to charge it and .... whooomph ....
Sea Launch home port is in Long Beach. Just saying....
I am willing to buy this “maybe”. I mean there was air traffic in the direct vicinity at the time. So this was 2 things 1. An accident 2. A warning.
I am not buying the airplane on the horizon theory...sorry.
I saw that, too. But, is it possible that it was actually a reflection?
This was late in the day, and I think the sun was either near or below the horizon. Maybe the angle was just right to catch the reflection on an unpainted plane?
The thing that makes me wonder: how could radar miss this? I think someone needs to look at what was actually flying through that area and see if the path matches the contrail.
Reminds me of the movie “Operation Petticoat” where the woman accidentally launches a torpedo, and it sinks a truck.
I am betting it was a sub-roc off one of our boats, it may have had a drill and somebody removed a safety, or neglected the safety interlocks, our boats are technically always on war footing.
Or and this may have a lot of truth due to current friction with other countries is that it was a warning shot, and I had a thought that maybe it was supposed to be Obamas “Oklahoma City” where a rogue sub launches a missile at the CONUS. China can get past our SOSUS if they have the technical zone mapping.
Or perhaps a sub was given orders to launch but miss Air Force One thus giving Obama an upper hand to get serious and divert attention from other issues. But the launch was premature, captains decision to make an “error”?
In summary I think Obama knows what it was because he ordered it.
I dunno why everyone thinks its a “model” or an Iranian toy. Its clearly a very large solid fuel ICBM or Space vehicle. I see space launches a lot in FL here.
What makes you think it was a nuke? Was there a big boom when it came down?
Do people realize that at any time off the coast of California there's hundreds of commercial ships and private watercraft in the vicinity where this 'missile' launch allegedly occurred? That the skies of SoCal are filled with commercial and private aircraft taking off and landing at any given moment? That there's always countless human beings watching the coast from any number of vantage points, most of whom have quality digital cell phone cameras capable of recording video?
Yet nobody reported a thing except this wacky news copter crew? No fishing vessels off Long Beach fishing for yellowtail tuna saw an ICBM missile come roaring out of the water on a column of fire like a Polaris ICBM launch? Nobody but this TV news chopper recorded this amazing event? No commercial airliners taking off from LAX, John Wayne, Ontario, or Long Beach airports saw an obvious missile roar into space past their position? No USMC, Navy, or Coast Guard pilots flying around saw a thing? No Coast Guard cutters reported seeing a sub-launched missile bloom and the tell-tale column of smoke rising up from the ocean?
Thousands of people didn't capture astonishing cell phone came video from all points of the compass of this "missile" soaring into space and breathlessly post it on YouTube and alert their local media?
No reports at all?
It was a flipping contrail from a commercial jet, folks. Just some peculiar anomaly of general aviation captured by happenstance photography.
You can't 'clearly' see anything of the sort.
Couldn't possibly be reflection off the windows or skin of a jetliner, right?
Sometimes we do. They're often called "boomers", more properly known as Ballistic Missle Submarines.
There’s video. It’s a missile. Even the Pentagon is admitting its a missile. They just don’t know who’s missile it is, which makes you question why trillions are spent on defense.
They were giving Obama the ALL CLEAR to return to the US.
Probably correct... but it's so much more fun the other way.
Honey I launched the missles.
You know, there might be something to that... if say in all the haste to prep, ship and launch a missile they forgot to change its programed targeting and instead of heading inland it headed towards the NK Target area. Where they've been sending their missiles all along. That would be in the same direction.
I hate to spoil the fun of the “THEY’RE TERKING ER JERBS!” contingent on FR, but the speculation was getting way out of hand.
It was going nearly vertical and then curved to the NW slightly. I have seen many launches and it sure looked like one to me. The smoke looked like it was from a solid booster. The satellites will have the track. and can estimate point of impact as well.
Maybe two MP’s were play fighting and one of them got knocked into the trigger button.
They had better send out a memo to all the subs in the area to count their missiles to make sure they haven’t accidentally launched one.
Yeah, I just checked out the video! Oops! Spoke too soon!
Check out the Naval launch island west of Catalina (may be more like 50 miles from LA). Name starts with “N”, I think.
Wow. So THAT’S what that button on my keyboard does. Cool.
That was clearly a crop duster airplane spraying bugs. I’m surprised the Pentagon hasn’t come clean on this by now. (sarc)
Looks like Darks is still trying to launch himself into outer space.
I've seen several launches with my own eyes and it didn't look like one to me.
It's easy to say "we don't know," even when they do. Not saying, is not the same as not knowing.
If it's a missile, they know.