Skip to comments.Pentagon Can't Explain Missile Off California
Posted on 11/10/2010 10:59:19 AM PST by Eleutheria5
WASHINGTON -The Pentagon said Tuesday it did not know what created a vapor trail that crossed the skies off the Southern California coast and resembled a missile launch. Video posted on the CBS News website shows an object flying through the evening sky Monday that left a large contrail, or vapor trail. A news helicopter owned by KCBS, a CBS affiliate in Los Angeles, shot the video. Pentagon officials were stumped by the event. "Nobody within the Department of Defense that we've reached out to has been able to explain what this contrail is, where it came from," Pentagon spokesman Col. Dave Lapan said. While the vapor cloud captured on video resembled that created by a rocket in flight, military officials said they didn't know of any launches in the area. Lapan said that "all indications" were that the Defense Department was not involved with the object. One expert called it an optical illusion. "It's an airplane that is heading toward the camera and the contrail is illuminated by the setting sun," said John Pike, director of the U.S.-based security analyst group globalsecurity.org. The North American Aerospace Defense Command, or NORAD, issued a statement jointly with the U.S. Northern Command, or NORTHCOM, saying that the contrail was not the result of a foreign military launching a missile. It provided no details. "We can confirm that there is no threat to our nation," the statement said. "We will provide more information as it becomes available."
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Pentagon won’t explain missile off California.
Looked like a Trident launch to me. Did someone spill coffee on the launch console?
They don’t know what it was,But it wasn’t terrorism..........
“We can confirm that there is no threat to our nation,” the statement said. “We will provide more information as it becomes available.”
“more information as it becomes available”. That’s really not what I want to hear.
Are we absolutely sure it's not an old video?? That's one thing I can think of that would cause the resulting "no show on radar" or sighting by other planes.
I remember years back about war using holograms (sp???). Could this be an example?
We're getting played by some computer geeks...
Blue UFO outside DC, missile launch, Carnival Cruise ship low on food, Conan O’Brien coming back to TV...sheesh, do I gotta draw you a map??? It all FITS!
I hope that the press, keep after this until we all know what it really was and who was responsible for it.
I finally saw the video last night. Several times.
It is a simple aircraft contrail. Contrails are a “hobby” of mine. I’ve seen lots like this one. The stills REALLY look like a contrail, and the video even confirms it. You can even see the sun shining off the bottom of the plane. Evening contrails are usually the prettiest.
I’ve also seen planes shining like that with no contrail. They are harder to spot, for obvious reasons.
The only puzzling thing about this is that early reports suggest that someone in an official government capacity was claiming something was launched 35 miles off the coast. That is the part of this story that is “odd”.
U.S. Air flight 808 from Hawaii to Phoenix.
They can explain it... they will not explain it.
Has anyone else heard the "optical illusion" theory?
Anyway, it's probably just some scheme to get the crazies buzzing conspiracy theories.
In other words, to motivate Obama's base.
In your keywords: “othatmissile”
>>Blue UFO outside DC, missile launch, Carnival Cruise ship low on food, Conan OBrien coming back to TV...sheesh, do I gotta draw you a map??? It all FITS!<<
Add to that the radar cop I passed this morning, and the security door that “coincidentally” would not work this morning. I think it’s all pretty clear what’s going on here!
I’m also not getting any responses to my messages to the home world. That one is really freaking me out because if I don’t get off this stinking planet by mid-January, I’m toast along with the rest of yous!
That’s the one! Thanks!
You forgot to mention Hillary buying a bra twice her size.
Think about it.
If it were a enemy sub launch, or surface ship for that matter, do you think the Pentagon of WH would tell us the truth?...........
Fire them all and get someone in there who knows and cares.
And, Im sure that the radar systems that blanket each city in the US for aircraft traffic control, and security, have no image; cannot identify the speed; cannot tell the tragectory; and cannot identify the planes transponders; and have no record of a pilot asking for takeoff clearance.
Plane??? Bull Shit!
I thought is was a roman candle fireworks from the celebration party for Barbara Boxer.;)
I missed that, when did that happen?
Ping to post 10 on this thread
About a missile launch.......
Unless it was a very unusual day why there was only one airplane in the air off the coast of LA pulling a con? Where are the other cons in this very, very busy airspace?
I lived in an apartment over looking Point Fermin and Long Beach Harbor and have seen many contrails like this one.
I was perhaps 100 feet above sea level and could see the outline of Catalina Island on the horizon which was 26 miles from where I was.
When I saw the 35 mile reference, I assumed that was the distance to the horizon from the altitude the Helicopter was flying - where the contrail appeared to be emerging from the surface. Part of the illusion.
Obama’s crack team lost the launch codes in October and inadertently ordered a launch in November?
I sure feel safe and secure in full confidence that our federal government is securing our unalienable rights to life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness.
I saw a few beaut contrails the other day over the South Bay..
the one photo of the trail in question that appears to start at a horizon or close to it, shows a plume that takes a distinct bend to the right, maybe a 30-45 degree adjustment, shortly after it rises into view and then veers right.. not sure how a contrail might do that..
>>>Pentagon wont explain missile off California.
You may be on to something.
See the trajectory, altitude, flight numbers, etc. here:
(rolling eyes) You forgot to put the wet laundry in the refridgerator along with 14.335 ounces of cheddar, loosely wrapped in page 43 of the New York Post from March 14, 1978 (NOT THE 15TH! Remember what happend on Zuvius 4 when you used the 15th????) and kept in an old margarine container full of root beer. How many times we have to go through this? Go do it now, I'll wait... (sigh)
But all the mumbo jumbo and denials make me wonder if it was a ChiCom sub in our waters rattling a very large sabre.
It was a super king-size Vapor E-Cigarette;)
Pentagon...now confirms aircraft.....
absent any intelligent explanation, I’m voting that it’s agitprop.
The prevailing winds will do that. I see bent contrails all the time here in the Albuquerque area. You can even watch the aircraft that leave them flying straight as a rail.
I'm not getting into the "Missile vs. Airplane" debate, just clarifying what happens to these contrails. Another thing about them, if the aircraft is flying at the same altitude, the contrail will hit the horizon at some vantage point due to the curvature of the earth. The ocean gives no vantage point.
One thing I noticed is the "base" of the contrail in question here is not really any wider than a spot farther up on the contrail, or more specifically, the spread of the contrail is fairly even and linear. It's all relatively thick. In the several pictures posted here of contrails from missiles launched out of the water, there is a huge deviation of the contrail/exhaust just above the surface level (a reverse mushroom). This is not present in the video from Monday.
He thought they said “lunch”.
You flight path for Flt808 is well south of the area
Let me just say that I sure as heck hope that this was a contrail of a jetliner.
But if it was, it would be fairly easy to establish. And so far as I know, there has been no linking of the contrail with a jetliner either arriving or departing from LAX.
On the other hand, RADAR from LAX did not record an object in the area, and statements from NORAD also claim that no object was detected.
The DOD has stated that their was no intentional or inadvertent launch of a missile by any branch of the armed forces in the area.
But when I look at that video, that darn sure looks like a missile in flight.
I sure do hope, for the sake of this country, that the DOD is not lying, for whatever reason, about what they know.
More likely WON'T than can't.
It was the only plane off the coast at that time flying at 37,000 feet (Honolulu to Phoenix). Most of the other traffic around LA is taking off or landing so it’s at a much lower altitude where contrails couldn’t form.
Two days ago, I work near the area.
CRAP!!!! I was using page 53!!!
Ok, I’ll go do that now!
This is why we always visit in teams. ;)
I owe you one, bro’!
I notice there have been several posters misleaading people about the video.
It’s a missle plume from a sub-surface sea launch, and one can see the flame from the engine as it moves away from the camera.
Pictures taken by a news helecopter.
While Russia weighs in...
In Moscow, Major General Alexander Vladimirov, vice president of Russia’s board of military experts, told the Interfax news agency the television image “looks like the launch of a missile from a submarine.”
“Most likely we are talking about the launch of a Trident-2 ballistic missile from an Ohio submarine,” Vladimirov was quoted as saying.
“There is reason to believe this was an unsanctioned launch of a missile from a submarine. If this is so, then many questions arise about the condition of the U.S. armed forces,” he said.
Great, there goes Jupiter...
Seems like if it were a missile and not an airplane a bunch of videos would be appearing by now.
You noticed that too?
Just those guys over at the department of dis-information trying to placate us mushrooms.