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Vietnam vets betrayed again: Pentagon bureaucrat wants to abridge 50th-anniversary ceremonies
The Washington Times ^ | November 11, 2010 | Jim Robbins

Posted on 11/10/2010 8:39:35 PM PST by Abakumov

The 50th-anniversary commemoration of the Vietnam War should be a time of reflection and redemption, when a grateful country pays a long-standing debt to veterans who nobly fought in the conflict but came home to scorn and spit. But if a Pentagon bureaucrat has his way, the Viet vets will be denied their rightful honors once again....

The proposed budget for the commemorations was $100 million, which was less than the amount spent on the World War II and Korean War commemoration efforts. For example, the 1984 commemoration of the Normandy landings alone cost $38 million....

Enter Michael L. Rhodes, director of administration and management at the Pentagon.... According to an August action memo prepared by Mr. Rhodes for Secretary of Defense Robert M. Gates and obtained by The Washington Times, he urged Mr. Gates to reject the proposed commemoration program and adopt instead a "targeted" $30 million program. The memo describes the new approach as "a dignified and meaningful DoD Program of national recognition [that] need not be tied to the full timeframe of U.S. military involvement" and that will "provide nation-wide participation, while utilizing the resources involved in the most effective manner."

Mr. Rhodes' plan cuts the time frame of the commemoration down to 2015-18 and inexplicably features a kickoff in his former home of Honolulu, which is not exactly a resource-effective location. Hawaii is inaccessible for most veterans and is in a time zone where most Americans could not watch the event live on television.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: veteransday; vietnam; vietvets
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1 posted on 11/10/2010 8:39:43 PM PST by Abakumov
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To: Abakumov

I’ll be interested to see what Gates does. Honolulu? Who else do we know from Honolulu? Who else hates the military?


2 posted on 11/10/2010 8:42:43 PM PST by chilltherats (He was born with a roaring voice, and it had the trick of inflaming half-wits against their betters)
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To: chilltherats

Can you say junket? Waste fraud and abuse? This stinks.


3 posted on 11/10/2010 8:44:59 PM PST by Abakumov
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To: Abakumov
"Failing action from the executive branch, Congress should intervene to make sure the anniversary commemoration is undertaken in a way that fulfills its intent. The Vietnam generation deserves better than stripped-down, pro-forma honors. Its veterans were spit on once - they must not be treated that way again."

4 posted on 11/10/2010 8:47:31 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: Abakumov

Government - all groups, regardless of party tends to denigrate the actions of those in the past. It is becoming a pattern and unfortunately forgotten by most.

The good thing is that in older age, we can at least protest against these idiots with our votes and activism.


5 posted on 11/10/2010 8:48:07 PM PST by Deagle
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To: Abakumov

Par for the course for us Vietnam Vets.

After all, according to Walter Cronkite, we lost our war.


6 posted on 11/10/2010 8:50:06 PM PST by DustyMoment (Go green - recycle Congress in 2012!!)
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To: Abakumov

Hmmm...Won’t put down what I’m thinking...Don’t want a visit from the WH S.S.


7 posted on 11/10/2010 8:55:17 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another agitator for republicanism like Sam Adams when we need him?)
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To: Abakumov
Al Bama and his wife get a luxury vacation co$ting hundred$ of million$ per day to glorify themselves and everything un-American, but they can't scrape a tiny portion of that amount of money together to give our Vets the recognition they deserve? The ones who risked their lives daily in the hellhole called Vietnam for years on end?

Well, seeing as the same freak-types who spat on our warriors coming home are now making these types of decisions, I guess I can't be too shocked.

8 posted on 11/10/2010 8:56:50 PM PST by 444Flyer ("The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good."-S. Johnson)
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To: Abakumov

If you don’t get it, the Obama regime has hired the worst bureaucrats it could find, from communists to just plan psychos. Now we get the psychobabble of Rhoads. Why doesn’t he just come out and say it, “I hate all this Vietnam stuff so why should we honor them in a proper way”?

We had the best and the brighests in Nam. The political hacks in the Pentagon today are the worst and the dumbest.

Max Friedman, Bao Chi, SVN/Cambodia, 40 years ago today.


9 posted on 11/10/2010 9:01:48 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: DustyMoment

I know what you mean brother. Veteran’s Day for us just brings back memories and another sale day for people with money. It don’t mean nuthin’.


10 posted on 11/10/2010 9:07:35 PM PST by afnamvet (Patriots Rising)
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To: onedoug

ping


11 posted on 11/10/2010 9:11:09 PM PST by stylecouncilor (What Would Jim Thompson Do?)
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To: Abakumov

If you don’t get it, the Obama regime has hired the worst bureaucrats it could find, from communists to just plan psychos. Now we get the psychobabble of Rhoads. Why doesn’t he just come out and say it, “I hate all this Vietnam stuff so why should we honor them in a proper way”?

We had the best and the brighests in Nam. The political hacks in the Pentagon today are the worst and the dumbest.

Max Friedman, Bao Chi, SVN/Cambodia, 40 years ago today.


12 posted on 11/10/2010 9:12:31 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Abakumov

Set up donation booths in Wal-Marts again, and have people collect money during 4th of July parades and events. I know my small town of 4,000 could generate a couple grand easily.


13 posted on 11/10/2010 9:13:18 PM PST by LukeL (Barack Obama: Jimmy Carter 2 Electric Boogaloo)
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To: DustyMoment

Welcome home, brother.


14 posted on 11/10/2010 9:13:24 PM PST by clintonh8r ("Let them eat lobster cake." Michele Antoinette, vacation #6.)
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To: Abakumov

God willing, there will be a new president in office by 2013 and they can have a proper commemoration of the sacrifices made by veterans of the Vietnam War.


15 posted on 11/10/2010 9:13:38 PM PST by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: DustyMoment
Thank you for your service, Sir.


16 posted on 11/10/2010 9:15:42 PM PST by 444Flyer ("The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good."-S. Johnson)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

I Corps, 5/69-7/70.

Welcome home.


17 posted on 11/10/2010 9:16:27 PM PST by clintonh8r ("Let them eat lobster cake." Michele Antoinette, vacation #6.)
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To: Abakumov
Fellow Viet Nam vets - write your Congress critter...protest this travesty.

Viet Nam - 1967-1969

18 posted on 11/10/2010 9:20:55 PM PST by LiteKeeper ("Psalm 109:8")
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To: Abakumov

I’m a Vietnam vet so what’s the big deal? Nothing New!


19 posted on 11/10/2010 9:25:33 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: LiteKeeper

If it is not understood - just what would be accomplished by writing?


20 posted on 11/10/2010 9:28:31 PM PST by Deagle
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To: Abakumov

Vietnam stands as a monument to Democrat bungling. Maybe that’s why Rats don’t want it grabbing headlines again.


21 posted on 11/10/2010 9:41:36 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: unkus

We be F’d again... Typical!


22 posted on 11/10/2010 9:49:34 PM PST by JDoutrider
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To: Abakumov

As a combat wounded Vietnam vet living in Hawaii, I say Mr. Rhodes should stick it where the sun doesn’t shine. There are enough communists in Hawaii, to include a 1960s anti VietNam War hippie as our recently elected Governor and many others to put a sour taste in my mouth already. Congress and the American people turned their back on us one too many times.


23 posted on 11/10/2010 9:57:59 PM PST by Dapper 26
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To: Abakumov
Cr*pping on us again would just be SOP.

Nam Vet

24 posted on 11/10/2010 10:06:40 PM PST by Nam Vet (Are you better off than you were 4 trillion dollars ago?)
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To: JDoutrider

We be F’d again... Typical!


The REMF’s are still REMF’s. F’ em.

No offense to VN Vet rear echelon guys.


25 posted on 11/10/2010 10:43:55 PM PST by unkus
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To: Abakumov

The war we wouldn’t let them win...


26 posted on 11/10/2010 11:34:45 PM PST by VADoc1980
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To: Nam Vet

Thanks for your service.


27 posted on 11/10/2010 11:35:12 PM PST by VADoc1980
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To: JDoutrider
We be F’d again... Typical!

There it is.

II Corps, Udorn & NKP '69 - '71

28 posted on 11/10/2010 11:47:33 PM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus - Domari Nolo)
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To: Abakumov
Mr. Michael L. Rhodes served four years in the active duty Army then became some super civilian staff weeny:

“Prior to serving as the Assistant Deputy Commandant with the Marine Corps, Mr. Rhodes served four years in Miami, Florida as Advisor to the Commander of the United States Southern Command (USSOUTHCOM), responsible for Sustaining Base and Quality of Life Affairs. Mr. Rhodes supported the Commander by providing advice, coordination, administration, and representation concerning issues affecting the sustainment and quality of installation programs, policies, and services impacting USSOUTHCOM personnel throughout the command’s area of responsibility in Central and South America and the Caribbean. . .Other assignments include: Business Analyst in the Public-Private Venture program at the U.S. Army Community and Family Support Center, Alexandria, Virginia; Business Consultant for the U.S. Army Pacific Community and Family Activities Division, Fort Shafter, Hawaii; General Manager of Club Operations at West Point, New York for the U.S. Military Academy; Community and Family Activities Program Specialist, HQ Staff, U.S. Army Alaska, Fort Richardson, Alaska (serving the three Army installations in Alaska); Chief of Community Operations at Fort Richardson, Alaska; and Financial Analyst for the Director of Personnel and Community Activities, HQ Staff, U.S. Army Alaska.” ROUGH DUTY!

http://www.defense.gov/bios/biographydetail.aspx?biographyid=164

29 posted on 11/10/2010 11:57:00 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Abakumov
I tried to caution others 6 years ago when Kerry ran and the people I chatted with here didn't believe me when I said the RATS are still the same RATS they were back in the mid 60's through the early 70's.......... We have an interesting scenario playing out right now, they (rats) are faced with a decision, benefits,increases,and cola for vets HAVE ALREADY BEEN FROZEN. THEIR not so new tactic is how do they cut military expenditures... they have a choice,either slow and reduce enlistment and PAY RAISES.....OR...cut funding for current military operations. EXPECT BOTH! THEY DID IT THEN,THEY'LL DO IT NOW.
30 posted on 11/11/2010 12:46:21 AM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Abakumov

They (US Government) needs to send the $ to the Palis.

And every other son of a b!#tch that wants the US and Isreal DESTROYED.


31 posted on 11/11/2010 1:36:03 AM PST by Levante
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To: SuperLuminal

G’darn, there you go again, reading my mind! But what are they gonna do...send US to V-—uhhh been there, done that.
S/F


32 posted on 11/11/2010 3:26:07 AM PST by Huaynero
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To: JDoutrider

I recall the day when our C.I.C quit.
I heard it on AFVN on my transistor radio.......
“ I shall not seek, nor will i accept the nomination of .......”

I said to the Gunny.....”Our Commander In Chief just quit!”

Gunny`s reply....”We be F’d again... Typical!...lock & load”


33 posted on 11/11/2010 3:30:34 AM PST by Einherjar
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To: Abakumov

Vietnam veterans, our war dead, and their families are betrayed every day as we trade with the Communist government in Hanoi and the Red Chinese government that armed & assisted them. Both Communist Vietnam and Red China should be treated as North Korea is: evil enemies of the free people of the world.


34 posted on 11/11/2010 3:42:14 AM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: Abakumov

Will there be a special special section in the parade for the anti-DADT homosexuals and will we get to watch??

(/sarcasm)


35 posted on 11/11/2010 5:12:26 AM PST by prairiebreeze (The Professional Left: Using Your Money to Promote Their Ideology Since the 1930's)
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To: stylecouncilor

Should we be surprised? soetoro hates us because we´re American.

Tam Ky, 1968 & 2000.


36 posted on 11/11/2010 6:45:09 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Abakumov
Why am I not surprised?

Lamh Foistenach Abu!
37 posted on 11/11/2010 7:11:13 AM PST by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines, RVN '69 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in battle!)
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To: Deagle

Maybe we can stir up some interest and “understanding”


38 posted on 11/11/2010 7:20:25 AM PST by LiteKeeper ("Psalm 109:8")
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To: Abakumov
KING: "Everybody know ...
the poor always being f*cked over by the rich. Always have, always will."

39 posted on 11/11/2010 8:30:46 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Abakumov

I don’t need any more ‘welcome home’ bs. It doesn’t mean anything to me anymore. The country already ‘welcomed’ me home and I’ll stick with that one. At least it was honest.


40 posted on 11/11/2010 8:39:30 AM PST by rahbert (11ACR 70-71)
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To: All

well isn’t this just a Happy Veterans Day. Thank you all who served and all the supporters of those of us who have served whether in combat or as garrisoned. Thank you all!

-KillerMedic


41 posted on 11/11/2010 8:58:42 AM PST by killermedic (Git some, baby)
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To: rahbert
....At least it was honest.

Riiiiiight. Just like everything else before, during and after.

Once I've got past that minor quibble, I'm with you.

Call off the whole damn deal. If it ain't sincere, screw it.

Take whatever they were planning on paying for this cluster**** and take care of the wounded kids coming back from The Sandbox.

42 posted on 11/11/2010 9:32:43 AM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet (800 and a wakeup)
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To: Unrepentant VN Vet

Vietnam is a beautiful country and the people in the South still love Americans.

Go back. You won´t regret it.

The war is still going on, but the theater has changed significantly.

If the War On Terror finally breaks our way, we will have won in Vietnam too, as young people, breathing free, finally dump communism for Liberty.


43 posted on 11/11/2010 10:11:24 AM PST by onedoug
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To: 444Flyer
Al Bama and his wife get a luxury vacation co$ting hundred$ of million$ per day to glorify themselves and everything un-American, but they can't scrape a tiny portion of that amount of money together to give our Vets the recognition they deserve?

The ones who risked their lives daily in the hellhole called Vietnam for years on end?

Well, seeing as the same freak-types who spat on our warriors coming home are now making these types of decisions, I guess I can't be too shocked.

My sentiments exactly...bears repeating.

44 posted on 11/11/2010 10:12:08 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (I love Karma. Loser dem house staffers lose insurance, have to go on ObamaCare. ;o)
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To: onedoug
I'm going back as soon as I can line up Anthony Bourdain as my food guide and his VN lady guide as my traveling companion.. Can't wait to see if they still have 'protein' baked into the French rolls.
45 posted on 11/11/2010 10:19:05 AM PST by rahbert
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To: Abakumov

I want to see a welcome home parade in every major city on Veterans Day 2013, okay, DeMint or Palin?


46 posted on 11/11/2010 11:01:34 AM PST by huldah1776
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To: Abakumov

In 2015-18 there will be a different administration and Gates will no longer be in charge...

Pray that our 2012 president puts a real veteran who loves his/hercountry and the veterans in charge...

Tennessee Nana
USAF 72-79


47 posted on 11/11/2010 11:07:21 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Abakumov

For all of you Vietnam Vets out there, THANK YOU for your service to our Country !!!!


48 posted on 11/11/2010 1:49:10 PM PST by Veeram ("Any fool (Liberal) can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." ---Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Abakumov

May G-d Bless our Vietnam Vets.May the souls of those who died in the war rest in peace in G-d’s loving care.


49 posted on 11/11/2010 1:55:25 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (The road to hell is paved with good intentions)
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To: DustyMoment

G-d Bless you and thank you for your service.


50 posted on 11/11/2010 1:56:43 PM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (The road to hell is paved with good intentions)
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