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Take a look a this photo of the "Mystery Missile" as it rises straight up and then disappears ...
State of the Nation ^ | November 12th 2010 | Myself

Posted on 11/11/2010 10:55:37 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009

Are you seriously going to tell me that this is an airliner and not a missile???



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Doug Richardson, Jane’s Military Magazine Missile Expert Tells You the Truth: Ballistic Missile, No Doubt

I have posted 4 photos for everyone to look at - this sure looks like one of the many missile launchings that I have seen, and Janes's Missile Magazine editor says the same, and he should certainly know. The smoke seen coming from the base of the object as well as the curled exhaust give it away and make it unmistakeable.

My question to everyone - look at the one photo seen here, of it rising from over the horizon, then in two minutes going straight up and spewing out a smoke exhaust plume, NOT a contrail, and then disappearing from sight into the sky, heading up and north by north west--- NOT arriving at LAX.

Happens every day??? Then why was it not seen and taped before, every day? I live right there and it does NOT happen every day. I do not believe our government about this, they are hiding what it clearly and obviously is, a missile launch.

1 posted on 11/11/2010 10:55:41 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

It’s reflections off unicorn farts.


2 posted on 11/11/2010 10:57:06 AM PST by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009; tx_eggman

Airplane. Nothing to see here. Please keep moving. No photography, please. Please keep moving. Nothing to see. Move along. Please step to the back of the cattle car to make room for others.


3 posted on 11/11/2010 10:58:57 AM PST by SpinnerWebb (In 2012 you will awaken from your HOPEnosis and have no recollection of this... "Constitution")
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
It's a contrail.

A vertical contrail. Planes fly straight upwards, right?

4 posted on 11/11/2010 11:00:13 AM PST by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Russians playing with Buvala missiles.... If this was the case, those things have more capability than we thought. And it means that the Russians got those things working. I expect the December test of the system to “Fail” as not to spook the West.


5 posted on 11/11/2010 11:00:36 AM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Calm down. It’s not a danger. We have no idea where it went nor what it was. Call it a UFO.


6 posted on 11/11/2010 11:00:41 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
My question to everyone - look at the one photo seen here, of it rising from over the horizon, then in two minutes going straight up and spewing out a smoke exhaust plume, NOT a contrail, and then disappearing from sight into the sky, heading up and north by north west--- NOT arriving at LAX.

You must have quite an imagination if you can see all that in this one photo.

7 posted on 11/11/2010 11:00:50 AM PST by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

I’m hoping someone can get an unedited copy of the tape and attempt a time/motion analysis to figure the speed that object is traveling, and how fast it may (or may not) be accelerating. I’d also like to see some altitude calculations based on the cloud formations the object appears to be moving past and through.

The tape I’ve seen is chopped and only a couple of seconds long.


8 posted on 11/11/2010 11:01:01 AM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Can you post the other three? Your link does not work.


9 posted on 11/11/2010 11:01:28 AM PST by houeto ("You know, I actually believe my own bullsh_t," --- BHO)
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To: agere_contra

“A vertical contrail. Planes fly straight upwards, right?”

Especially commercial airliners. It makes the take off more exciting for the passengers.


10 posted on 11/11/2010 11:01:48 AM PST by jessduntno (In the news: Arab assassins. Wind mills. Pirates. We are back in the 7th Century.)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Swamp gas. Whatever that was - it put out a LOT of propellant to leave a trail like that. Especially when viewed so many miles away.

It was not a smaller missile like a Star Wars interceptor test. This was an an ICBM.

It is not a plane or contrail. It looks like a sub launched ICBM.


11 posted on 11/11/2010 11:02:01 AM PST by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: SpinnerWebb

Thats an awful lot of contrail for an aircraft. I see jets in the air all day where I work and none of the contrails look like that. It looks more like a a trail like the ones we see when vandenberg lights one off.


12 posted on 11/11/2010 11:02:01 AM PST by Always Independent
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Everyone with at least two synapses left to rub together knows that this is a missile and not an aircraft. The “authorities” know this but they also know that there are a nation out there loaded with people who are either incapable of thinking or who simply refuse to do so. The only way that they would care about this is if there were a glowing ball of fire in the sky and destruction everywhere. We’re never going to know the truth about this.


13 posted on 11/11/2010 11:02:16 AM PST by davisfh (Islam is a mental illness with global social consequences)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Do people not thing we have RADAR that operates less than 30 miles from one of the busiest airports in the US?

Of course it’s not a plane. We’re being given the answer that is in the official PR manual for situations like this.


14 posted on 11/11/2010 11:02:16 AM PST by bigbob
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Rocket


15 posted on 11/11/2010 11:02:34 AM PST by Lady GOP
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
"My question to everyone - look at the one photo seen here, of it rising from over the horizon..."

I disagree. I can't make that conclusion because the horizon is obscured.

16 posted on 11/11/2010 11:03:21 AM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Not saying you’re wrong, but that’s why they call them ‘optical illusions’. We are often most easily deceived by what we see, not to mention what we hear.


17 posted on 11/11/2010 11:03:44 AM PST by Spok ( "Woe to them who call the day, night and the night, day." -Isaiah)
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To: agere_contra
A vertical contrail. Planes fly straight upwards, right?

Some do :)


18 posted on 11/11/2010 11:04:35 AM PST by AFreeBird
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To: Wissa

My remarks were an amalgam of what I read about the video (2 minutes of active smoke, 6 more of lingering smoke) and the Jane’s expert’s remarks (unmistakably a missile) and what I can see with my own two lying eyes...


19 posted on 11/11/2010 11:04:50 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Keith in Iowa

Nothing to see here, please move along.

South Korea rules out navy ship sunk by North Korea
Reuters ^ | Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:47pm EDT | Jo Yonghak BAENGNYEONGDO, South Korea
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2481233/posts
South Korea on Saturday all but ruled out the chance that North Korea was involved in the sinking of one of its navy vessels near their disputed border.
Initial speculation that North Korea might have sunk the ship had spooked Wall Street on Friday. Share prices dipped partly on geopolitical concerns, and the won dropped against the dollar.

“correction” was slow to come.

US hints at North Korean torpedo attack
The Korea Times ^ | 5/02/2010 | Jung Sung-ki
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2505365/posts


North Korea ‘torpedoes and sinks’ South Korean navy ship with 104 sailors on board
daily mail ^
Posted on Friday, March 26, 2010 5:29:43 PM by traumer
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2480719/posts


20 posted on 11/11/2010 11:04:50 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

the Point Of View of the Trail would change the Perspective and thus the apparent trajectory .

“going straight up “,..... only if viewed from the :proper: Point Of View.

I have to suggest that if viewed from several miles to either the Left or the Right one would see a DIAGONAL Trail.. and not something going “straight up”


21 posted on 11/11/2010 11:05:11 AM PST by MeshugeMikey
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

After looking at that picture it should be obvious that AGW is real. /s


22 posted on 11/11/2010 11:05:22 AM PST by Joan Kerrey
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To: agere_contra

Maverick and Goose, yes.

USAir FLight 808, not so much.


23 posted on 11/11/2010 11:05:32 AM PST by NOVACPA
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To: Lady GOP

That could be a space shuttle. Just sayin’


24 posted on 11/11/2010 11:05:41 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
Yup just an airplane or (my personal favorite) an optical illusion. Go back now and enjoy your free health care, the Dear Reader has everything under control.

Seriously, is it me or does it seem like this country's being "tested" a lot in the past 2 years. Underwear bomber, attempted Times Square bomber, Oil rigs blowing up ....with no explanation given ...now this. Not to mention the reports of "trial runs" like the print cartridge rigged like a bomb. Each time a non-response from the Regime.

25 posted on 11/11/2010 11:07:31 AM PST by YankeeReb
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
Watch this strange posting on Youtube claiming that this cruise ship was crippled by a Chinese sub using an EMP attack that then caused the US to launch a missile at the sub. Is there a cover up going on?

Chinese Attack Carnival Splendor with EMP prompting Missile launch ?? What?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g43-4wBmrGw

This is a strange report from the one above. You can't believe anything posted on the internet but you never know if there is something here or just an odd sense of timing.

http://fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/weapons/news.php?q=1289409513 A new report circulating in the Kremlin today prepared for Prime Minister Putin by Director Anatoly Perminov of the Russian Federal Space Agency states that an Arkon-1 military satellite monitoring the western coasta

l regions of North America detected an “EMP anomalous event” occurring on November 8th at 0600 Pacific Standard Time (-8 hours GMT) that bore the “direct signature” of a YJ-62 subsonic anti-ship missile fired from a Chinese People’s Liberation Navy Type 041 submarine (NATO code name Yuan-Class) [photo 2nd left] known to be patrolling approximately 200 kilometers off United States coast.

Nearly 11 hours after this EMP “event”, this report further says, Arkon-1 then detected a BGM-109 (Tomahawk) subsonic cruise missile launched from a US Navy Ohio-Class submarine operating off the coast of California [photo bottom left] on a “training mission” from its home port located at US Navy’s Kitsap Base in Washington State and was enroute to the largest American Naval Base on the US west coast in San Diego, California.

Note: A Russian military intelligence (GRU) addendum to this report states that the “training mission” the Ohio-Class submarine was on is related to a new US law passed this year allowing for the first time in history for women to serve on US Navy subs and was an “operational exercise” testing female Naval Officers competence prior to their first “operational deployment”.

The “immediate effect” of the Chinese Navy’s firing of their EMP missile, this report continues, was the “catastrophic crippling” of the US based cruise ship Carnival Splendor [photo 3rd left] that stranded its nearly 4,500 passengers and crew in a “dead in the water” boat and prompting the Americans to send the US Navy’s Ronald Reagan aircraft carrier, warplanes, and supply aircraft to protect it from further attack after all of its electronic systems were destroyed.

An electromagnetic pulse (EMP) such as was used upon the Carnival Splendor is a burst of electromagnetic radiation that causes rapidly changing electric fields (or magnetic fields) that when coupling with electrical/electronic systems produces damaging current and voltage surges destroying all non-hardened electrical systems.

The US Naval Surface Warfare Center (NSWC) had previously warned that American ships were vulnerable to such attacks with EMP Assessment Group Leader of Blaise Corbett stating that “the consequences of failing to take appropriate precautions to protect fleet mission critical systems can ultimately prove catastrophic to the Navy’s mission.”

The purpose of this Chinese EMP upon an American ship, this report says, was twofold: 1.) A test of the EMP weapon itself that in a war against the Americans and would be used against their Naval Fleet and Marine Forces operating out of California and the west coast of the US, and 2.) A test of the response time for American retaliatory measures against any Chinese warship attacking the US and/or its interests in the Pacific.

The GRU further states that the timing of this attack was timed even more crucially due to China’s testing of America’s response time during a period when their President, as Commander In Chief of all US Military Forces, was out of the country, as Obama was as he was in India at the time.

The Americans response time of nearly 11 hours between the EMP attack on the Carnival Splendor and the US retaliatory strike, the GRU states, “virtually assured” that the Chinese submarine responsible for the attack escaped, but which they further point out may have been intended by the Americans so as not to escalate this crisis.

To the geo-political reason(s) for a Communist Chinese attack upon the Americans just days before the crucially important G-20 Summit in South Korea, which both President’s Hu and Obama will be attending, this report says was due to the United States, in essence, declaring total economic war upon the rest of the world by its printing of nearly $1 Trillion US Dollars in order to monetize its staggering debt and that China warned:



“If the United States can increase the volume of dollars and it can transmit inflation to other countries to lessen the pressure of debt, then it will bring about a catastrophic influence on the world.”

Typical of the United States propaganda media organs in telling their citizens about the true events relating to this crisis, it as if they have put themselves in total Cold War mode reminiscent of the 1940’s to the late 1980’s when they, likewise, failed to inform them of the many incidents or US Soldier deaths related to that conflict.

Most dangerous about the American people not being informed of the true and tragic state of our world today is their not being able to prepare for the much larger conflicts to come, especially in light of China’s Communists vowing that they won’t go down without a fight. A fight, mind you, that now appears not only a sure thing, but imminent.

© November 10, 2010 EU and US all rights reserved. Permission to use this report in its entirety is granted under the condition it is linked back to its original source at WhatDoesItMean.Com.

[Ed. Note: Western governments and their intelligence services actively campaign against the information found in these reports so as not to alarm their citizens about the many catastrophic Earth changes and events to come, a stance that the Sisters of Sorcha Faal strongly disagrees with in believing that it is every human beings right to know the truth. Due to our missions conflicts with that of those governments, the responses of their ‘agents’ against us has been a longstanding misinformation/misdirection campaign designed to discredit and which is addressed in the report “Who Is Sorcha Faal?

www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1421.htm
26 posted on 11/11/2010 11:08:18 AM PST by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialst States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world or Obamaville USSA.)
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To: a fool in paradise

27 posted on 11/11/2010 11:08:38 AM PST by Lady GOP
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Just because you want it to be a missile, doesn’t mean that it was.

http://contrailscience.com/


28 posted on 11/11/2010 11:09:10 AM PST by freedomwarrior998
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To: Spok

I’m illustrating absurdity by being absurd... the overwhelming influx of the “it’s contrails, and anyone who thinks it’s anything else is and idiot” crowd here is enough to make one suspicious that it’s plausible to be something other than an airplane.


29 posted on 11/11/2010 11:09:10 AM PST by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Vertical smoke trail? Missle shot. Look at the relative light reflection off of the exhaust trail, it remains constant, indicating a near vertical trajectory.

Condensation, as in CONtrail, has nothing to do with it.


30 posted on 11/11/2010 11:09:52 AM PST by Tigerized (pursuingliberty.com)
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To: agere_contra

Any high altitude aircraft, coming from offshore (say Hawaii) and heading straight for you (say in LA), always APPEARS to be heading STRAIGHT UP.

IF you could follow the contrails (i.e. they did not dissipate in the wind), you would find they led to the horizon of the ocean.

For the same reason, the TOP OF MASTS on boats appears first, then the actual boat itself.

I live in the MIDWEST and I saw contrails in the sky that looked almost completely identical to the ‘mystery’ one in LA. There are some very high speed, high altitude winds that have been just wreaking havoc with clouds and arrow straight contrails this past week.

This whole thing is a nice distraction, but I assure you, that is all it is.


31 posted on 11/11/2010 11:10:30 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

It does look like a missle, but I am curious as to what the distance is from the camera to the object? If it is some 35 miles away as some have speculated then why is the smoke plume so distorted at the bottom.


32 posted on 11/11/2010 11:10:38 AM PST by Boiler Plate ("Why be difficult, when with just a little more work, you can be impossible" Mom)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
Only one video of this event - My first thoughts after viewing was could be a sub launch....however, 48+ hours after the fact and only 1 video of this event?? Leads me to go with occam’s razor on this one. It was a plane caught under untypical conditions from a unique position.
33 posted on 11/11/2010 11:11:12 AM PST by SevenMinusOne
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

If it happened everyday, it would not be news. With all the planes that take off every minute in California, surely we all would have seen this many times.

But, the question is, where did it land? What goes up, must come down...


34 posted on 11/11/2010 11:11:41 AM PST by tuckrdout ( A fool vents all his feelings, but a wise man holds them back. Prov.29:11)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
nah - it's a plane - that took off 40 miles out to sea.

Who ya gonna believe - your lying eyes of the spinmysters

35 posted on 11/11/2010 11:11:48 AM PST by maine-iac7
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Where is the missle exhaust to the ground?


36 posted on 11/11/2010 11:11:50 AM PST by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: a fool in paradise

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LO2tBsGrUks


37 posted on 11/11/2010 11:12:02 AM PST by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: Keith in Iowa

It’s a temperature inversion reflecting Venus, or some kind of sh*t like that...


38 posted on 11/11/2010 11:12:02 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (If the GOP reaches across the aisle, we're gonna chop off their hands.)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Tell me this.

Is the object at the forefront of the ‘plume’ moving TOWARDS ‘us’ (our point of view in the video), AWAY from US, or TO ONE SIDE?????????


39 posted on 11/11/2010 11:12:32 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

It’s a bird! It’s a plane!!! IT’S SUPERMAN!!!


40 posted on 11/11/2010 11:12:51 AM PST by Gat˙n(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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Its a weather balloon !

41 posted on 11/11/2010 11:13:01 AM PST by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: tuckrdout
Here is another view of the Missile launch regarding the Cruise ship incident.
http://coyoteprime-runningcauseicantfly.blogspot.com/2010/11/did-chinese-emp-attack-cripple-us.html
42 posted on 11/11/2010 11:13:13 AM PST by ncfool (The new USSA - United Socialst States of AmeriKa. Welcome to Obummers world or Obamaville USSA.)
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To: YankeeReb

The regime responded by banning printer toner and rubbing the private parts of flight attendants.


43 posted on 11/11/2010 11:13:23 AM PST by omega4179 (Quem deus vult perdere, dementat prius)
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To: Always Independent

Just for grins, in virtually EVERY aircraft contrail, one can discern ‘strands’ from multiple engines near the origin of the condensate. Also there is generaly a short gap between the aircraft and the beginning of the contrail — the space where the moisture in the engine exhaust is too hot to condense In this photo, there appears to be one unified exhaust plume.


44 posted on 11/11/2010 11:13:35 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: Thunder90

Russians or

http://www.therightperspective.org/2010/11/10/north-korea-develops-long-range-sub-nuke/


45 posted on 11/11/2010 11:13:53 AM PST by maine-iac7
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To: ncfool

If it was an EMP attack on the Carnival ship, how were they able to radio for help?


46 posted on 11/11/2010 11:14:37 AM PST by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
A few years ago I watched a missile being launched off the coast at Scott Creek north of Santa Cruz, could've been as much as twenty miles off shore. Watched it take off - never found out what fired it.

I will say it looked very similar to your picture.

I'm sure the military has its reasons for being vague with the inquiries.

47 posted on 11/11/2010 11:14:37 AM PST by skeeter
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Yeah, it’s flight 808 inbound from Honolulu, the pilot just decided at the last minute to take the scenic route over eastern Asia.


48 posted on 11/11/2010 11:14:44 AM PST by bereanway (I'd rather have 40 Marco Rubios than 60 Arlen Specters)
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To: Lady GOP

That is a missile launched from a submerged submarine. I have seen several launches and this photo is exactly like the launches I saw.


49 posted on 11/11/2010 11:14:59 AM PST by Roklok
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To: agere_contra
3-D in real life, but you are viewing it in 2-D. You lose a lot of perspective in the translation.

OMG!!!!! IT'S STRAIGHT UP!!!!!

50 posted on 11/11/2010 11:15:10 AM PST by SengirV
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