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KC police fire at backfiring van
kansascity.com ^ | Fri Nov 12, 2010

Posted on 11/12/2010 11:33:28 AM PST by posterchild

Two Kansas City police officers who thought they were being shot at from inside a van returned fire Thursday night.

Only later did police realize that the van was actually backfiring and the man inside was not armed. He was not injured by the shots fired by police.

Windows of the police car were apparently shot out by the officers as they exited the patrol car.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; barneyfife; donutwatch; kc; keystonekops; police; shootfirst
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1 posted on 11/12/2010 11:33:30 AM PST by posterchild
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To: posterchild
It must have been impossible to frame the guy, otherwise I'm sure they would have.
2 posted on 11/12/2010 11:35:39 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The people who hate Sarah Palin hate her because they know that her Presidency is inevitable.)
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To: posterchild

If they can’t tell the difference between shots fired and an engine backfiring, I think they’re in the wrong job.


3 posted on 11/12/2010 11:37:09 AM PST by wastedyears (The only good unemployment statistic in America is the number of unemployed Dem officials.)
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To: posterchild

Oh, no....Barney and Ernest T.


4 posted on 11/12/2010 11:37:56 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Hate to say, but I agree with you.


5 posted on 11/12/2010 11:38:41 AM PST by MeganC (January 20, 2013)
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To: posterchild
Windows of the police car were apparently shot out by the officers as they exited the patrol car.

I was ok 'til I got to this. Now my desk and papers are spewed with coffee!

6 posted on 11/12/2010 11:41:08 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Napolean fries the idea powder.)
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To: posterchild

Wow, they shor out their own windows! That’s gonna be hard to explain!


7 posted on 11/12/2010 11:41:12 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Come to think of it. It’s been a long long time since I heard an engine backfire so I’ll give the officers a little slack. The whole of the east side of Kansas City is a battleground so I’d cut ‘em a little slack.


8 posted on 11/12/2010 11:42:14 AM PST by CARTOUCHE
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To: posterchild

Note to self: Stay the heck out of Kansas City ... especially on the 4th of July.


9 posted on 11/12/2010 11:42:30 AM PST by Gator113 (Beauty will devour the Beast in 2012. Kill "Obamamosque"@ Ground Zero)
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To: posterchild

10 posted on 11/12/2010 11:44:21 AM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: posterchild
Windows of the police car were apparently shot out by the officers as they exited the patrol car.

That is WAY funny. Maybe their therapists told them they should release their 'Inner Fifes".

11 posted on 11/12/2010 11:47:27 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th)
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To: posterchild

I had to double check to make sure this wasn’t satire for crying out loud.


12 posted on 11/12/2010 11:47:58 AM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Slings and Arrows; JoeProBono
Windows of the police car were apparently shot out by the officers as they exited the patrol car.


13 posted on 11/12/2010 11:48:09 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: posterchild

Cops seem WAY too jumpy these days. Too MILITARIZED. Certainly this pair was trigger-happy!


14 posted on 11/12/2010 11:49:09 AM PST by 2harddrive
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To: posterchild

Thank God the guy in the van wasn’t hurt. Imagine how shaken up he must have been when he realized it was police shooting at him. I think he’s going to be sitting pretty down the line...


15 posted on 11/12/2010 11:50:56 AM PST by Liberty1970 ("Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you." - RoadTest)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Wow, they shor out their own windows! That’s gonna be hard to explain!

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I’m betting they also pooped their patrol pants too.

Lots and lots of ‘splainin to do!


16 posted on 11/12/2010 11:51:23 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: posterchild

Barney & Goober on patrol? What did Floyd have to say? Where was Andy? On a business trip to Mt Pilot again?


17 posted on 11/12/2010 11:52:12 AM PST by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: posterchild

...."and Andy,if I hadn't dropped the donut bag at just that moment,there's no telling what might have happen, we might have had an ambush on our hands Andy, of course my training allowed my superior fire power and tactics to suppress any further danger"

18 posted on 11/12/2010 11:53:24 AM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: wastedyears

I’m curious what nicknames their fellow officers will give them.


19 posted on 11/12/2010 11:53:58 AM PST by posterchild (Endowed by my Creator with certain unalienable rights.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It must have been impossible to frame the guy, otherwise I’m sure they would have.

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Really? I can think the guy would be busted for faulty emissions for a start.

Where I’m from - you drive an old clunker that backfires? You will be receiving lots of tickets.


20 posted on 11/12/2010 11:54:36 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“shot out their own windows”...LOL

Reminds me of a line in “Rooster” Katherine Hepburn “Marshall Cogburn you are shooting your own food!”


21 posted on 11/12/2010 11:55:16 AM PST by DJlaysitup
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To: Responsibility2nd
Where I’m from - you drive an old clunker that backfires? You will be receiving lots of tickets.

Will you have police shooting at you?

22 posted on 11/12/2010 11:55:48 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The people who hate Sarah Palin hate her because they know that her Presidency is inevitable.)
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To: posterchild

suggestions:

Turner and Too Much Hooch

Fatman and Little Boy

Dumb and Dumber


23 posted on 11/12/2010 11:56:36 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: posterchild

The most important thing to a policeman is, that at the end of the day, they go home alive.


24 posted on 11/12/2010 11:56:51 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: CARTOUCHE; E. Pluribus Unum; MeganC; posterchild
Come to think of it. It’s been a long long time since I heard an engine backfire so I’ll give the officers a little slack. The whole of the east side of Kansas City is a battleground so I’d cut ‘em a little slack.

I will give them the slack on not being able to discern the difference between a backfire and gunfire.

I will not give them the benefit of the doubt for firing on a target with out verifying the target is an offensive target (a possible felon with a deadly weapon).

After all is it not the argument of the gun grabbers that LEOs are highly trained on the proper response to incidents exactly such as this. They should not be shooting until there is reasonable certainty that the suspect is armed and dangerous.

25 posted on 11/12/2010 11:56:54 AM PST by Pontiac
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’m also wondering if these cops are Iraqi war veterans with PTSD.


26 posted on 11/12/2010 11:58:07 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (Yes, as a matter of fact, what you do in your bedroom IS my business.)
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To: Responsibility2nd
I’m also wondering if these cops are Iraqi war veterans with PTSD.

In that case, they would have every right to fire at random.

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27 posted on 11/12/2010 12:01:04 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The people who hate Sarah Palin hate her because they know that her Presidency is inevitable.)
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To: posterchild
Oops.

"Whoa, whoa, whoa! Nice shootin', Tex!"

SnakeDoc

28 posted on 11/12/2010 12:01:18 PM PST by SnakeDoctor (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum -- If you wish for peace, prepare for war.)
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To: posterchild

Yup, here in Missouri, we shoot people. Sometimes just for good measure.

I got to see the KC Police, Grandview Police and Missouri Troopers shoot a fellow once. He really, really deserved it.

He had driven by me and my son at 10:00 at night with his lights out at 125 MPH while trying to outrun officers he had earlier tried to run over with his car. He ended up in a ditch and tried to run them over again to escape just as I pulled past the mess.


29 posted on 11/12/2010 12:03:06 PM PST by KC Burke
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To: posterchild

If there were injuries, the police would be guilty of causing them. Hiding behind the badge would not free them of the responsibility.

Fascism is wrong, even when practiced by the government.


30 posted on 11/12/2010 12:03:47 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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To: Pontiac

Concur. Good point.


31 posted on 11/12/2010 12:06:03 PM PST by MeganC (January 20, 2013)
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To: posterchild

I’m gonna go with the windows being shot out not by the cops exiting but by the cops trying to work up a plausible excuse. Just conjecture, mind you.


32 posted on 11/12/2010 12:06:54 PM PST by NonValueAdded (Palin 2012)
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To: posterchild

He was not injured by the shots fired by police.

Windows of the police car were apparently shot out by the officers as they exited the patrol car.


OH, I feel so safe now.


33 posted on 11/12/2010 12:08:41 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Really? I can think the guy would be busted for faulty emissions for a start.

If not before, then certainly after a backfire the emissions are going to be faulty.

I haven't heard a car backfire in years.

34 posted on 11/12/2010 12:10:09 PM PST by Ole Okie (American.)
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To: Liberty1970
Thank God the guy in the van wasn’t hurt. Imagine how shaken up he must have been when he realized it was police shooting at him. I think he’s going to be sitting pretty down the line...

Since none of the bullets got anywhere near the van, I'm not sure he knew they were even firing at him.

35 posted on 11/12/2010 12:10:47 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

LOL! Copper hijinx.


36 posted on 11/12/2010 12:10:53 PM PST by Frantzie (Imam Ob*m* & Democrats support the VICTORY MOSQUE & TV supports Imam)
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To: CARTOUCHE
It’s been a long long time since I heard an engine backfire so I’ll give the officers a little slack.

Especially with your WINDOWS ROLLED UP and the RADIO on.

37 posted on 11/12/2010 12:12:37 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: posterchild

That will teach them to get a tune up.


38 posted on 11/12/2010 12:13:13 PM PST by listenhillary (A very simple fix to our dilemma - We need to reward the makers instead of the takers)
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To: KC Burke

It’s all the fault of ..... the Grandview Triangle. There are strange forces at work, once in it’s clutches.


39 posted on 11/12/2010 12:16:12 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Frantzie

If I dial 911 it will be after the situation is under control.


40 posted on 11/12/2010 12:20:20 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: NonValueAdded

Good point. If they shot them from the outside going in then that’s an attempt to pervert the course of justice.


41 posted on 11/12/2010 12:21:37 PM PST by agere_contra (...what if we won't eat the dog food?)
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To: posterchild

Where would we be without these “peace officers”? Good grief.


42 posted on 11/12/2010 12:23:16 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: KC Burke

This guy outran the police (and passed one)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ6CPIM1ZCs


43 posted on 11/12/2010 12:23:20 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: posterchild


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

44 posted on 11/12/2010 12:26:14 PM PST by The Comedian (Time and tide wait for no man. But who needs a bad magazine and cheap soap?)
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To: posterchild
Windows of the police car were apparently shot out by the officers as they exited the patrol car.

This, while apparently funny, does not compute. Windows (plural). How many windows? More than one bullet then. Something smells.

45 posted on 11/12/2010 12:31:21 PM PST by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: KC Burke

Yep. I got to do a ride-a-long with KCPD back in 1990. I was surprised the number of times the weapons came out of the holsters during the graveyard shift.

But then again, we’re talking about the east side (east of Troost Ave). That shift needs a Bradley fighting vehicle on Friday nights.


46 posted on 11/12/2010 12:37:59 PM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Actually the Grandview triangle did play a part in my event of about ‘93. We left a Boy Scout Districk office off 435 & Holmes and made the curve on 435 headed north when about a dozen lights appeared behind me chasing something. I slowed and watched and sure enough, lights-out at double my speed a guy who was escaping Grandview jurisdiction blew by followed by 8 to 12 full bubble-gum patrol cars. Eight miles north, he lost it and ended up mired in the median just south of the I-70 junction — and I pulled up just in time to see him spinning his wheels trying to run over the officers approaching his car with guns drawn. Four guys emptied their clips at less then 20 foot range.


47 posted on 11/12/2010 12:42:38 PM PST by KC Burke
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To: Vaquero

The only way to handle this windshield shooting is to nip it in the bud. NIP...IT...IN....THE....BUD.


48 posted on 11/12/2010 12:56:46 PM PST by DManA
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To: UCANSEE2
Since none of the bullets got anywhere near the van, I'm not sure he knew they were even firing at him,

? I read the article but saw no mention of whether shots hit the van or not. I just assumed since the article assured readers the driver was not hit, that the van at least had been hit. Boy, the image of two officers at close range firing so wildly they can't even hit a large vehicle... confidence this does not inspire...

49 posted on 11/12/2010 12:57:14 PM PST by Liberty1970 ("Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you." - RoadTest)
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To: KC Burke

Nobody calls it the 3-Trails Crossing, will always be the Triangle. I’ll be traveling through there this evening, hopefully with no such incident.


50 posted on 11/12/2010 1:05:26 PM PST by Second Amendment First
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