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Maine Rep Switches From Dem To republican
Bangor Daily News ^ | 11-13-10 | Christopher Cousins, BDN Staff

Posted on 11/13/2010 7:00:00 AM PST by paul in cape

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1 posted on 11/13/2010 7:00:04 AM PST by paul in cape
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To: paul in cape

Tthe TpCaucus contnues to GRoW.. in most all places.. (JAWS THEME)..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvCI-gNK_y4


2 posted on 11/13/2010 7:03:56 AM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: paul in cape

Oh, Olympia..............Oh, Olympia..........are you paying attention.


3 posted on 11/13/2010 7:05:45 AM PST by Carley (WE SAW NOVEMBER FROM OUR HOUSE)
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To: paul in cape
NO, NO, NO! No more Democrats switching to Republicans! All this does is water down the Party creating more RINO's!

I don't care what democrat legislation this guy voted against as a democrat. Once a democrat, ALWAYS a democrat I say.

Don't let him switch, it'll just be one more RINO we'll have to throw out in 2012 anyway.

4 posted on 11/13/2010 7:06:52 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: paul in cape

“and wouldn’t have worked for my district.”

And that’s what our senatorial and congressional members are supposed ot keep in mind when looking at law: Their District.
Whether or not the people who elected them will want to tar and feather them if they vote for something unpopular.
John Hall here in NY learned that the hard way.
He’s gone.
Topo bad JigglyBrand and Schmucker are still reprehensing, er, representing NY.


5 posted on 11/13/2010 7:07:16 AM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: paul in cape

This seems to suggest a “replay” of what happened after the 1994 elections — a number of conservative-leaning democrats switch parties.

Nothing particularly wrong with that. Those who are “opportunists” will be seen for that quickly. Those who switch because they really agree with the Republican side more than the ‘rat side will demonstrate such by their future behavior, and should be welcomed.

Remember that Ron Reagan was the greatest “switcher” of them all!


6 posted on 11/13/2010 7:08:41 AM PST by Grumplestiltskin (I may look new, but it's only deja vu!)
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To: paul in cape

Great! Just what we need...another RINO!!


7 posted on 11/13/2010 7:08:59 AM PST by Howie66 (I can see November from my house.)
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To: paul in cape

What’s the ratio of ‘Rats turning Republican and vice-versa? I’ll bet it’s better than 10:1.


8 posted on 11/13/2010 7:11:27 AM PST by LiberConservative
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To: paul in cape

I wouldn’t touch this turncoat with a sewage dipped barge pole.

He’s just another DemonRAT mole.

The caucus should refuse to seat him, and his election should be nullified for switching parties.

He is a liar and a thief.

We want PRINCIPLED LEADERS, not malleable followers, or even worse, spies and moles.


9 posted on 11/13/2010 7:11:34 AM PST by Westbrook (Having children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: paul in cape

I would not trust a “Switcher.”

They ONLY do it to save their hides!


10 posted on 11/13/2010 7:13:26 AM PST by BobNative
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To: paul in cape
RINO ALERT! If a politician changes their party affiliation like a change my underwear, they're a RINO.
11 posted on 11/13/2010 7:14:59 AM PST by Traveler59 (Truth is a journey, not a destination.)
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To: paul in cape
I don't know, I don't like it when they switch after being elected as one party...even if they go Republican. Seems dishonest.

Plus, just another Republican-lite. We have enough of those already.

12 posted on 11/13/2010 7:15:14 AM PST by CAluvdubya (Palin 2012...YOU BETCHA!.)
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To: paul in cape

No Big Deal

these are local Maine seats not US House seats ....

at first it looks like they are talking about US House seats but it is not.....


13 posted on 11/13/2010 7:15:32 AM PST by Vaquero (BHO....'The Pretenda from Kenya')
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To: usconservative
I agree! BTW, didn't some idiot up in the NY house switched to republican and gave them the majority only to have switched back to the rat hole for a higher position or something like that? I DON'T TRUST ANY RAT that stabs their own party...he is no good!! Throw him back to the rat hole he crawled out of!
14 posted on 11/13/2010 7:17:16 AM PST by RoseofTexas
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To: paul in cape
Typical liberal. If the liberal message isn't resonating, switch parties and promote the message from a different angle.

Alas, liberal and conservative is what counts.

Republican and Democrat is just a political conduit.

15 posted on 11/13/2010 7:19:20 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: paul in cape
Calm down, everyone!

He's already switched and you can't put a broken egg back together. So give him a chance and see how he votes. He sounds promising.

Remember what's written on Chicago's outdoor trash containers, "Every Litter Bit Helps".

Leni

16 posted on 11/13/2010 7:19:42 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: usconservative
NO, NO, NO! No more Democrats switching to Republicans! All this does is water down the Party creating more RINO's!

Usually. But there are exceptions.

As for myself, I was Democrat being raised in the South. Now I look at Atilla the Hun as a pinko-lib.

There was also another Democrat turned Republican, named Ronald Reagan, who was far from being a RINO.

Thus it is best to reserve judgement on people's words until they show some actions to define their character.

17 posted on 11/13/2010 7:22:06 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't skipper a boat, Can't drive, Can't ski, Can't fly. But they KNOW what's best!)
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To: MinuteGal

How ever he votes, he is one more in the count of how many seats the Demoncrats will need to take back the house-—plus, party pressure on him will now be flowing the opposite direction.


18 posted on 11/13/2010 7:23:51 AM PST by inpajamas (http://outskirtspress.com/ONE)
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To: CAluvdubya

I agree. The right thing to do is what Phil Gramm did back in the eighties: resign and then run in the special election for the other party. After all, it’s wrong to take money and time from one party and then serve in the other.


19 posted on 11/13/2010 7:24:41 AM PST by Our man in washington
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To: CAluvdubya

I agree. The right thing to do is what Phil Gramm did back in the eighties: resign and then run in the special election for the other party. After all, it’s wrong to take money and time from one party and then serve in the other.


20 posted on 11/13/2010 7:24:47 AM PST by Our man in washington
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To: usconservative
I agree 100 percent. I was getting ready to post the exact same thing. I pray that FREEPERS are not cheer-leading this monstrosity. It will make the Republican party more moderate than it already is. I thought we were trying to get the RINOs out. You will never convince me that a guy who switches from Democratic to Republican is going to be a conservative Tea Party type. Of course FREEPERS (some) never see the long term. That is why they love that new Illinois Senator and was going for some of these other liberal Republican. It is very strange for a conservative websites to have some many liberal Republican cheerleaders.
21 posted on 11/13/2010 7:25:18 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: BobNative

Watch their actions and votes. If they don’t vote with the GOP, TOAST in 2012.


22 posted on 11/13/2010 7:27:22 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Grumplestiltskin

He did not switch while in office.


23 posted on 11/13/2010 7:27:43 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: N. Theknow

As President Reagan said: “I didn’t leave the Democratic Party. The party left me.”


24 posted on 11/13/2010 7:32:53 AM PST by rwa265 (Christ my Cornerstone)
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To: usconservative

‘Once a democrat always a democrat’ is SO not true. I came out of UCBerkeley, very liberal, always voted Democrat. Voted for George Bush when I came out of the fog, because of his integrity. I had looked at Ralph Nader’s website that year (!!) thinking that I had always liked him, and realized that it was a load of hooey and that I didn’t believe any of that at all in any way.

Often a convert will be more convinced of his new stance because he has made the decision clearly, perhaps with gut-wrenching soul-searching. I say we welcome the converts. They know how the other side thinks, and they are ‘liberals mugged.’

Personally, it gives me hope to see this. I think it is a harbinger of things to come.


25 posted on 11/13/2010 7:34:28 AM PST by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: napscoordinator

Like a home run hit by a visiting batter...

...THROW IT BACK!!!

We don’t want middle-of-the-road Demopublican and Republicrat Johnny-Come-Lately opportunistas watering down and confusing the agenda.

Let’s not make the same mistake as last time and drift toward the middle. We need to LEAD, dammit, not drift.

Tell him to get the hell back where he came from, NOW !!!!!


26 posted on 11/13/2010 7:34:42 AM PST by Eccl 10:2 (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem - Ps 122:6)
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To: usconservative
I don't care what democrat legislation this guy voted against as a democrat. Once a democrat, ALWAYS a democrat I say.

Wasn't Reagan a Democrat at one time?

27 posted on 11/13/2010 7:35:09 AM PST by Netizen
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To: N. Theknow
There was also another Democrat turned Republican, named Ronald Reagan, who was far from being a RINO.

Back then the ideological gulf that he crossed was not near as wide as it is today. A liberal Democrat could be found who still loved America as founded. What Reagan did was see the Democrat future and wanted no part of it. Today if you are a Democrat who still loves America as it was founded you are persona-non-grata in the Democrat party and must leave it to keep your sanity. The reason a person stays a Democrat is that they hate America and want to mutate it into something resembling the former Soviet Union.

28 posted on 11/13/2010 7:36:38 AM PST by Tonytitan
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To: usconservative
NO, NO, NO! No more Democrats switching to Republicans! All this does is water down the Party creating more RINO's!

Sometimes it works out,expecially in the south. Richard Shelby, Phil Gramm, John Connolly and of course Strom Thurmond turned out okay.
29 posted on 11/13/2010 7:40:24 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Right you are. I would think about half of all Republicans in the South are former Democrats. Ironically, I was not aware that the Tea Party was following the lead of the John Birch Society and demanding loyalty oaths of its followers.


30 posted on 11/13/2010 7:46:26 AM PST by Melchior
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To: paul in cape

This is a pet peeve of mine. If you get elected as a Democrat, you stay a Democrat. If a Republican, you stay a Republican.

If you want to switch parties, do it before the election cycle— not pull a bait and switch as soon as you’re elected.

This is fraud, pure and simple. Thousands of people gave money to their party to help elect their representative— or, even worse, gave money directly to his campaign. He’s got an obligation to those constituents to fulfill that “contract”.


31 posted on 11/13/2010 7:48:24 AM PST by Egon (The difference between Theory and Practice: In Theory, there is no difference.)
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To: hosepipe

Listened to the Maine GOP response to the Gov’s weekly message and the GOPer (a legislator, forgot who) gave all the credit for the historic takeover of the legislative bodies and governorship to..... the GOP establishment. Yes, they got introspective and adjusted their message. Not a mention of Tea Party or the citizens.


32 posted on 11/13/2010 7:51:04 AM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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To: usconservative

Give him a chance. He has just set him self loose from his Dem shackles and may turn out to really be one of us. At least for now, we can hope.


33 posted on 11/13/2010 7:53:36 AM PST by WellyP
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To: Egon
If you want to switch parties, do it before the election cycle— not pull a bait and switch as soon as you’re elected.

Agreed. Phil Gramm did it right:

(from Wikipedia)

Just days after being reelected in 1982, Gramm was thrown off the House Budget Committee for supporting Reagan's tax cuts. In response, Gramm resigned his House seat on January 5, 1983. He then ran as a Republican for his own vacancy in a February 12, 1983 special election, and won. He became the first Republican to represent the district since its creation.
34 posted on 11/13/2010 7:53:53 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: usconservative

Not to pile on, but “Ronaldus Magnus” wouldn’t have gotten through under your test, so how does that hekp us? I agree that it is generally problematic to accept party switchers, because such changes are normally nothing but self-serving opportunism, and you get what you pay for.

However, there is an important minority of cases that are the result of serious maturation of thought. They have really become convinced that the perspective of their old party is deeply flawed, and more importantly, they’ve seen those defects first hand, understand them from the inside, so they are totally inoculated against them, and are particularly good at opposing and defeating them. You don’t want to give up some of your best A-Team players if you don’t have to. I say we welcome everybody, but just like church, hold their feet to the fire if their “conversion” later fails to pass the test of genuineness.


35 posted on 11/13/2010 7:55:16 AM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: usconservative
Really? No party switchers?

Ronaldus Magnus and Phil Gramm were once Democrats....

36 posted on 11/13/2010 7:55:35 AM PST by Lysandru
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To: usconservative

Don’t be too hasty, there have been a few good conservatives come from the other side of the aisle. Reagan comes to mind.


37 posted on 11/13/2010 8:06:04 AM PST by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: usconservative

Yeah, Ronald Reagan was suuuuch democrat/RINO!


38 posted on 11/13/2010 8:08:57 AM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: usconservative

So Richard Shelby is dead to you?


39 posted on 11/13/2010 8:11:47 AM PST by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds. A pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Grumplestiltskin

Agreed.

At the local level, things aren’t quite so ideologically clear. It’s whether to build a new road here or there, how to save the cost of two maintenance positions, how to get the state to do something that the county needs and has paid for with its taxes. So at the state legislature level it’s not always clearly liberal versus conservative. Even in some states like Wyoming, Democrat doesn’t mean liberal the same way as, say, Pennsylvania.


40 posted on 11/13/2010 8:14:39 AM PST by Blagden Alley
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To: Our man in washington
...resign and then run in the special election for the other party. After all, it’s wrong to take money and time from one party and then serve in the other.

It's never wrong to take money and time from the Democrat party and then serve another party. The Democrat party is evil.

41 posted on 11/13/2010 8:21:19 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: Netizen

And our “other president” as well, Chuck Heston.


42 posted on 11/13/2010 8:23:28 AM PST by FrogMom (No such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: Egon
This is a pet peeve of mine. If you get elected as a Democrat, you stay a Democrat. If a Republican, you stay a Republican. If you want to switch parties, do it before the election cycle— not pull a bait and switch as soon as you’re elected. This is fraud, pure and simple.

Bait and switch my foot.

The Democrat party and anybody voting for it, serving it and running as it is shredding our Constitution and destroying our country.

They are fraudulent.

That's my pet peeve.

43 posted on 11/13/2010 8:29:11 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: Grumplestiltskin

Exactly on Reagan. How are we supposed to increase our ranks if we dont convert some democrats?


44 posted on 11/13/2010 8:34:15 AM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Raider Sam

I agree with the folks who say it is seedy to run under one party’s banner and then switch the next week after you got re-elected.

Phil Gramm did it the right way.


45 posted on 11/13/2010 8:46:47 AM PST by gthog61
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To: gthog61

I agree with you there. I am in huge support of serving as what you ran as. Also, I am in favor of sore loser laws.

I was more talking about whether we should let former dems join us. How they join is another matter.


46 posted on 11/13/2010 8:52:53 AM PST by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: usconservative

NOV 2010
Michael Willette (D / Inc.) 1,604
Jessica Chase Smith (R) 1,262

wonder what Jessica thinks.


47 posted on 11/13/2010 9:21:54 AM PST by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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To: paul in cape
Let me see if I understand this.
A: He ran and won as a Democrat
B: He accepted Democrat money to campaign with
C: He switched parties 10 days after the election.
D: The Republicans welcomed him with open arms.

That is just one of the many reasons I don't trust the Republican any more than I trust the Democrats.
One party with two faces.

48 posted on 11/13/2010 9:25:38 AM PST by Tupelo
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To: paul in cape

Welcome, and remember why you switched. America needs all the help it can get. Our Country is in real trouble.


49 posted on 11/13/2010 9:27:48 AM PST by Logical me
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To: paul in cape

A dem switching over in the county is huge news!! Politics are a bit strange up there and full of social pressure to stay put.


50 posted on 11/13/2010 9:35:07 AM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghan Honor Roll students.)
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