Posted on 11/13/2010 12:26:44 PM PST by FS11
According to Forbes, the top 10 most dangerous cities are:
1. Memphis, Tenn.
2. St. Louis, Mo.
3. Kansas City, Mo.
4. Detroit, Mi.
5. Miami, Fla.
6. Tulsa, Okla.
7. Nashville-Davidson, Tenn.
8. Indianapolis, Ind.
9. Oklahoma City, Okla.
10. Stockton, Calif.
http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/city-news/nashville-ranked-seventh-most-dangerous-city
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The rating is based on violent crimes crossed with traffic fatalities. But if you have a lot of single-vehicle drunk driver fatalities, does that translate into “dangerous” for the average resident?
I lived in Tulsa and Oklahoma City and wasn’t concern about crime at all.
2) Why Little Rock, AR and Pine Bluff, AR isn't in the Top Ten.
Per-captia, Pine Bluff has always been in the top three (3) deadliest cities.
What about Phoenix? It’s supposed to have more kidnappings than any US city. (Or has that been debunked?)
houston and dallas?
I have family in OK city and they never had a problem..what about nyc? lol bet they dont include subway crime in their stats.
Cleveland is demanding a recount.
A sad day when Indianapolis pulls ahead of Gary, Indiana in this particular category.
Not knowing a lot about Oklahoma, I admit I was surprised at seeing Tulsa and OKC on the list.
Hard to say. Exactly what crimes is the ranking including under “violent crime”? Fistfights? I don’t care if drunks in bars or teens at football games get into fistfights, because I’m not there. Traffic fatalities are high where seat belt usage is low, but that doesn’t affect me, because I always wear my seat belt.
>Jeez...I’m scratching my head to try to figure out
>what those ten cities have in common...
For the racial makeup of the cities mentioned, see:
http://www.cityrating.com/cityguides.asp
Memphis is about 40% black
I live about 50 miles south of Indianapolis and there are places in that city where I wouldn’t go without a squad of Marines and an armored personnel carrier.
I find this hard to believe. I lived in Tulsa and my daughter lives there. sure there are some areas that are bad but no t the town as a whole.
More dangerous than Oakland, Chicago or Detroit? I doubt it! The statistics are skewered.
Surprised either one or both didn’t make it to the list based on what I have heard about Dallas and what I know about Houston. When planning a trip to Dallas this fall to go to State Fair and play golf, several people who live there told us to not be anywhere near the fair grounds by ourselves after dark and gave us a list of once great golf courses to stay away from because of robberies. People in hotel there also warned us about being out late at night. I don’t go anywhere within the city of Houston after dark except for the Village, River Oaks and West U areas. There are many parts of Houston where the police no longer go so there are no crime reports generated so no stats.
Newark? Detroit? South Side of Chicago? Harlem? Bronx?
Well, maybe there’s so many to choose from that they just can’t all fit into the Top Ten. Yeah, that’s the way to look at it.
If you aren't an illegal alien with ties to the drug cartels, your Phoenix kidnapping risk is close to zero.
Tulsa, less than 9% black. Oklahoma City, around 11% black.
Wow we have shot enough bad guys to get out of the top ten! whoohoo!
I know DAllas. taking a kid to the zoo is scary
Well, as someone earlier pointed out, the "danger" isn't necessarily related to crimes.
I am shocked to see that cities such as Newark, NJ are not on this list.
I actually watched an episode of some gang documentary show last night. The city was OKC. Seems a lot of families left LA in the 1980s to get their kids out of the gang infested areas of LA and went to OKC. The kids all grouped back up and started new gangs.
From the article...
“The magazine used 2009 data from the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s statistics on violent crimes per 100,000 along with 2008 Department of Transportation data on the number of traffic fatalities per 100,000 residents. Furthermore, Forbes only ranked cities with 250,000 residents or more.
Chicago, Las Vegas and Virginia Beach, Va., were not included in the ranking due to lack of data.”
http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/city-news/nashville-ranked-seventh-most-dangerous-city
Things must have really changed in Tulsa since I lived there, because it was just about the safest city I’ve ever been in. More like a small town than a city.
Lol!
United States cities by crime rate:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate
I see that Stockton is falling down the list, I wonder if it’s because it’s actually getting better, or rather that the rest of the top 10 have gotten worse.
“The kids all grouped back up and started new gangs.”
Why didn’t they just spank ‘em and send ‘em to bed?;)
All those country singers with guns, y’know....
Tulsa doesn’t have a lot of minorities, period. A few rough neighborhoods, both white and minority, but I expect this ranking is driven by traffic fatalities, because seat belt usage is low in Oklahoma.
This listing is useless without D.C. and NOLA in the top 5.
Where are they in beer guzzling? :)
Just the facts, folks.
If you don’t find your city on this list, then here is another one for you.
http://www.morganquitno.com/cit06pop.htm
Add to that the growing number of muslims in Tn. Several of those cities also have growing numbers of them.
http://www.islamproject.org/education/United_States.html
Impressively high, I would say, from personal experience. Also whiskey-tippling, among your Knights of Columbus, who (I suppose) wear their seatbelts to avoid being traffic fatalities.
Chicago, Las Vegas and Virginia Beach, Va., were not included in the ranking due to lack of data.
How convenient. That says to me Chicago topped the list, Vegas probably in the top 10 also. Hidden stats for Harry and Obongo.
That is, I was not guzzling the beer myself (wine is my favored adult beverage) but observed the consumption by my fellow Tulsans.
Lol! I see.
In any case, guzzling + no seat belts = danger!
The vast majority of traffic fatalities are *yes* alcohol and *no* seat belt. Of the two, no seat belt is the most closely correlated with fatalities. This makes traffic fatalities a very quirky proxy for “dangerous city,” because the event is almost completely under the control of the individual. If I wear my seat belt, I will not be a traffic fatality (with exceptions nearing statistical zero).
I moved from Los Angeles to the Tulsa area in 2003. It hasn’t changed. Very safe, low key and easy place to live. Even the “bad” areas don’t have bars on the windows or that seige mentality. I haven’t had adrenaline creep up my spine due to a subconscious perception of danger in the almost 8 years I’ve been here.....in LA, it was a daily occurrence, along with gun shots, circling helicopters with searchlights, open hostility among citizens, etc. Just a whole different feeling.
As far as danger, I would put the worst part of Los Angeles at a 9 (just below the danger in dangerous places outside the United States), and Tulsa at a 3 or 4 (and even lower if one is properly armed, as most of the bad guys aren’t nearly as accomplished or as serious about crime as they are in LA). There’s crime in my area, but it’s small, disorganized, and generally personal (”I need some meth”, as opposed to “my family has been running drugs for generations”). There are bikers who are involved in large-scale operations, but they generally keep their wars to themselves.
New Orleans, Camden, NJ and Gary, Indiana are no longer on the list ?
What happened?
>Add to that the growing number of muslims in Tn.
Muslims don’t commit many street crimes. Unless you meant black Muslims?
Re: Unless you meant black Muslims?
The black Muslims are more of a political or anti-White thing than religious.
This list is silly.
Oklahoma City and Tulsa are not dangerous.
Most dangerous cities. Most safe cities. Most family-friendly cities. Most unfriendly to retirees cities. I really wish we could find out how these lists are compiled. What data (and money or lack of) is fed into the decision machine? What exceptions are made? What is left out when calculating crime and what is combined? Why do city officials spend thousands of taxpayer dollars actively campaigning for “safest city” awards from who? Then if they’re chosen, they spend thousands of taxpayer dollars travelling to a central point, where they’re wined, dined (by who?)and presented with whatever the distinction calls for.....a certificate, a few signs, banners? Yea! In El Paso, TX officials and police are milking this award (2nd safest city in America) to the hilt. Mayor, City Council, City Manager, Police Chief are all taking credit and daring the citizens to complain about recent criminal activity on the police force and corruption in city government. Why....we’re the 2nd safest city in America. How dare you question us? I think these lists are worthless. Opinions?
Tulsa? Really? San Fransisco, LA, Dallas and NYC are all much more dangerous cities than Tulsa or OKC.
Just the facts, folks.
Lists are compiled from FBI Crime Stats.
http://www.morganquitno.com/cit06pop.htm
Yeah. I saw that. Still confuses me. Nearly every house in this town has burglar bars on the windows and security doors on outside entry doors. It’s a mystery.
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