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Nashville ranked seventh most dangerous city
Nashville City Paper ^ | 10-15-10 | Nashville City Paper

Posted on 11/13/2010 12:26:44 PM PST by FS11

According to Forbes, the top 10 most dangerous cities are:

1. Memphis, Tenn.

2. St. Louis, Mo.

3. Kansas City, Mo.

4. Detroit, Mi.

5. Miami, Fla.

6. Tulsa, Okla.

7. Nashville-Davidson, Tenn.

8. Indianapolis, Ind.

9. Oklahoma City, Okla.

10. Stockton, Calif.

http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/city-news/nashville-ranked-seventh-most-dangerous-city

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Tennessee
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1 posted on 11/13/2010 12:26:46 PM PST by FS11
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To: FS11

The rating is based on violent crimes crossed with traffic fatalities. But if you have a lot of single-vehicle drunk driver fatalities, does that translate into “dangerous” for the average resident?

I lived in Tulsa and Oklahoma City and wasn’t concern about crime at all.


2 posted on 11/13/2010 12:30:36 PM PST by Tax-chick (Don't forget to show your work!)
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To: FS11
I'm sorry to see Oklahoma City and Tulsa on the list that
high. I was born and reared in Phoenix, but my families
are from Oklahoma.
3 posted on 11/13/2010 12:31:08 PM PST by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a United States Marine.)
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To: FS11
Jeez...I'm scratching my head to try to figure out 1) what those ten (10) cities have in common, and

2) Why Little Rock, AR and Pine Bluff, AR isn't in the Top Ten.

Per-captia, Pine Bluff has always been in the top three (3) deadliest cities.

4 posted on 11/13/2010 12:33:23 PM PST by DCBryan1 (FORGET the lawyers...first kill the "journalists". (Die Ritter der Kokosnuss))
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To: FS11

What about Phoenix? It’s supposed to have more kidnappings than any US city. (Or has that been debunked?)


5 posted on 11/13/2010 12:33:59 PM PST by smokingfrog (Because you don't live near a bakery doesn't mean you have to go without cheesecake.)
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To: FS11

houston and dallas?


6 posted on 11/13/2010 12:34:07 PM PST by dalebert
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To: Tax-chick

I have family in OK city and they never had a problem..what about nyc? lol bet they dont include subway crime in their stats.


7 posted on 11/13/2010 12:36:16 PM PST by dalebert
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To: FS11
I think these top 10 lists from Forbes are just a way to attract hits on their web site, and that is about it
8 posted on 11/13/2010 12:38:20 PM PST by Mark was here (It's either Obama or America. There cannot be both.)
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To: FS11

Cleveland is demanding a recount.


9 posted on 11/13/2010 12:39:17 PM PST by bwc2221
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To: FS11

A sad day when Indianapolis pulls ahead of Gary, Indiana in this particular category.

Not knowing a lot about Oklahoma, I admit I was surprised at seeing Tulsa and OKC on the list.


10 posted on 11/13/2010 12:39:21 PM PST by DemforBush (If I ever get back my blue jeans...Lord, how happy could one man be?)
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To: dalebert

Hard to say. Exactly what crimes is the ranking including under “violent crime”? Fistfights? I don’t care if drunks in bars or teens at football games get into fistfights, because I’m not there. Traffic fatalities are high where seat belt usage is low, but that doesn’t affect me, because I always wear my seat belt.


11 posted on 11/13/2010 12:39:58 PM PST by Tax-chick (Don't forget to show your work!)
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To: FS11

>Jeez...I’m scratching my head to try to figure out
>what those ten cities have in common...

For the racial makeup of the cities mentioned, see:
http://www.cityrating.com/cityguides.asp

Memphis is about 40% black


12 posted on 11/13/2010 12:41:20 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: FS11

I live about 50 miles south of Indianapolis and there are places in that city where I wouldn’t go without a squad of Marines and an armored personnel carrier.


13 posted on 11/13/2010 12:42:02 PM PST by EEDUDE
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To: Tax-chick
***I lived in Tulsa and Oklahoma City and wasn’t concern about crime at all.***

I find this hard to believe. I lived in Tulsa and my daughter lives there. sure there are some areas that are bad but no t the town as a whole.

More dangerous than Oakland, Chicago or Detroit? I doubt it! The statistics are skewered.

14 posted on 11/13/2010 12:42:19 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (I visited GEN TOMMY FRANKS Military Museum in HOBART, OKLAHOMA! Well worth it!)
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To: dalebert

Surprised either one or both didn’t make it to the list based on what I have heard about Dallas and what I know about Houston. When planning a trip to Dallas this fall to go to State Fair and play golf, several people who live there told us to not be anywhere near the fair grounds by ourselves after dark and gave us a list of once great golf courses to stay away from because of robberies. People in hotel there also warned us about being out late at night. I don’t go anywhere within the city of Houston after dark except for the Village, River Oaks and West U areas. There are many parts of Houston where the police no longer go so there are no crime reports generated so no stats.


15 posted on 11/13/2010 12:42:33 PM PST by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: FS11

Newark? Detroit? South Side of Chicago? Harlem? Bronx?

Well, maybe there’s so many to choose from that they just can’t all fit into the Top Ten. Yeah, that’s the way to look at it.


16 posted on 11/13/2010 12:42:46 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine (/s, in case you need to ask)
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To: smokingfrog
What about Phoenix? It’s supposed to have more kidnappings than any US city. (Or has that been debunked?)

If you aren't an illegal alien with ties to the drug cartels, your Phoenix kidnapping risk is close to zero.

17 posted on 11/13/2010 12:44:30 PM PST by Mr. Jeeves ( "The right to offend is far more important than any right not to be offended." - Rowan Atkinson)
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To: ETL

Tulsa, less than 9% black. Oklahoma City, around 11% black.


18 posted on 11/13/2010 12:45:11 PM PST by Tax-chick (Don't forget to show your work!)
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To: dalebert

Wow we have shot enough bad guys to get out of the top ten! whoohoo!


19 posted on 11/13/2010 12:45:17 PM PST by waterhill (I have never met an E.T. that I could not shoot)
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To: Grams A

I know DAllas. taking a kid to the zoo is scary


20 posted on 11/13/2010 12:47:26 PM PST by dalebert
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To: Tax-chick
Tulsa, less than 9% black. Oklahoma City, around 11% black.

Well, as someone earlier pointed out, the "danger" isn't necessarily related to crimes.

21 posted on 11/13/2010 12:47:55 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: FS11

I am shocked to see that cities such as Newark, NJ are not on this list.


22 posted on 11/13/2010 12:50:35 PM PST by I Hate Obama ("Sorry I had a fight in the middle of your Black Panther Party." -Forest Gump)
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To: righttackle44

I actually watched an episode of some gang documentary show last night. The city was OKC. Seems a lot of families left LA in the 1980s to get their kids out of the gang infested areas of LA and went to OKC. The kids all grouped back up and started new gangs.


23 posted on 11/13/2010 12:52:26 PM PST by riri
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To: Tax-chick

From the article...

“The magazine used 2009 data from the Federal Bureau of Investigation’s statistics on violent crimes per 100,000 along with 2008 Department of Transportation data on the number of traffic fatalities per 100,000 residents. Furthermore, Forbes only ranked cities with 250,000 residents or more.

Chicago, Las Vegas and Virginia Beach, Va., were not included in the ranking due to lack of data.”

http://nashvillecitypaper.com/content/city-news/nashville-ranked-seventh-most-dangerous-city


24 posted on 11/13/2010 12:53:21 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Tax-chick

Things must have really changed in Tulsa since I lived there, because it was just about the safest city I’ve ever been in. More like a small town than a city.


25 posted on 11/13/2010 12:53:23 PM PST by mojito
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To: bwc2221

Lol!


26 posted on 11/13/2010 12:54:02 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: FS11; All

United States cities by crime rate:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_cities_by_crime_rate


27 posted on 11/13/2010 12:57:27 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: FS11

I see that Stockton is falling down the list, I wonder if it’s because it’s actually getting better, or rather that the rest of the top 10 have gotten worse.


28 posted on 11/13/2010 12:57:35 PM PST by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: riri

“The kids all grouped back up and started new gangs.”

Why didn’t they just spank ‘em and send ‘em to bed?;)


29 posted on 11/13/2010 12:58:01 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: FS11

All those country singers with guns, y’know....


30 posted on 11/13/2010 12:58:40 PM PST by smalltownslick
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Tulsa doesn’t have a lot of minorities, period. A few rough neighborhoods, both white and minority, but I expect this ranking is driven by traffic fatalities, because seat belt usage is low in Oklahoma.


31 posted on 11/13/2010 1:01:06 PM PST by Tax-chick (Don't forget to show your work!)
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To: FS11

This listing is useless without D.C. and NOLA in the top 5.


32 posted on 11/13/2010 1:03:04 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Tax-chick
seat belt usage is low in Oklahoma.

Where are they in beer guzzling? :)

33 posted on 11/13/2010 1:07:24 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: dalebert

Just the facts, folks.

If you don’t find your city on this list, then here is another one for you.

http://www.morganquitno.com/cit06pop.htm


34 posted on 11/13/2010 1:07:50 PM PST by FS11
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To: ETL

Add to that the growing number of muslims in Tn. Several of those cities also have growing numbers of them.

http://www.islamproject.org/education/United_States.html


35 posted on 11/13/2010 1:10:46 PM PST by mojitojoe (In it’s 1600 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: ETL

Impressively high, I would say, from personal experience. Also whiskey-tippling, among your Knights of Columbus, who (I suppose) wear their seatbelts to avoid being traffic fatalities.


36 posted on 11/13/2010 1:12:31 PM PST by Tax-chick (Don't forget to show your work!)
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To: FS11

Chicago, Las Vegas and Virginia Beach, Va., were not included in the ranking due to lack of data.

How convenient. That says to me Chicago topped the list, Vegas probably in the top 10 also. Hidden stats for Harry and Obongo.


37 posted on 11/13/2010 1:13:31 PM PST by mojitojoe (In it’s 1600 years of existence, Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curr)
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To: Tax-chick; ETL

That is, I was not guzzling the beer myself (wine is my favored adult beverage) but observed the consumption by my fellow Tulsans.


38 posted on 11/13/2010 1:16:03 PM PST by Tax-chick (Don't forget to show your work!)
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To: Tax-chick

Lol! I see.

In any case, guzzling + no seat belts = danger!


39 posted on 11/13/2010 1:18:19 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

The vast majority of traffic fatalities are *yes* alcohol and *no* seat belt. Of the two, no seat belt is the most closely correlated with fatalities. This makes traffic fatalities a very quirky proxy for “dangerous city,” because the event is almost completely under the control of the individual. If I wear my seat belt, I will not be a traffic fatality (with exceptions nearing statistical zero).


40 posted on 11/13/2010 1:21:34 PM PST by Tax-chick (Don't forget to show your work!)
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To: mojito

I moved from Los Angeles to the Tulsa area in 2003. It hasn’t changed. Very safe, low key and easy place to live. Even the “bad” areas don’t have bars on the windows or that seige mentality. I haven’t had adrenaline creep up my spine due to a subconscious perception of danger in the almost 8 years I’ve been here.....in LA, it was a daily occurrence, along with gun shots, circling helicopters with searchlights, open hostility among citizens, etc. Just a whole different feeling.

As far as danger, I would put the worst part of Los Angeles at a 9 (just below the danger in dangerous places outside the United States), and Tulsa at a 3 or 4 (and even lower if one is properly armed, as most of the bad guys aren’t nearly as accomplished or as serious about crime as they are in LA). There’s crime in my area, but it’s small, disorganized, and generally personal (”I need some meth”, as opposed to “my family has been running drugs for generations”). There are bikers who are involved in large-scale operations, but they generally keep their wars to themselves.


41 posted on 11/13/2010 1:23:17 PM PST by PinkChampagneonIce
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To: FS11

New Orleans, Camden, NJ and Gary, Indiana are no longer on the list ?

What happened?


42 posted on 11/13/2010 1:26:04 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: mojitojoe

>Add to that the growing number of muslims in Tn.

Muslims don’t commit many street crimes. Unless you meant black Muslims?


43 posted on 11/13/2010 1:30:34 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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Re: Unless you meant black Muslims?

The black Muslims are more of a political or anti-White thing than religious.


44 posted on 11/13/2010 1:33:33 PM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: FS11
This list is wacky.

Where is Chicago, Cleveland, Gary Indiana, Oakland CA on this list??

EFin' Tulsa??? North Tulsa yes cause it looks like Oakland!

Remember the story about the 2AM murder in front of a fried chicken drive-in? All the patrons stepped over the dead body and lined-up at the order window. Nobody called 911. The bars had just closed. Everyone had their hunger-on. That's North Tulsa.
45 posted on 11/13/2010 1:43:24 PM PST by CaptSkip
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To: FS11

This list is silly.

Oklahoma City and Tulsa are not dangerous.


46 posted on 11/13/2010 1:44:44 PM PST by DarrellZero
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To: FS11

Most dangerous cities. Most safe cities. Most family-friendly cities. Most unfriendly to retirees cities. I really wish we could find out how these lists are compiled. What data (and money or lack of) is fed into the decision machine? What exceptions are made? What is left out when calculating crime and what is combined? Why do city officials spend thousands of taxpayer dollars actively campaigning for “safest city” awards from who? Then if they’re chosen, they spend thousands of taxpayer dollars travelling to a central point, where they’re wined, dined (by who?)and presented with whatever the distinction calls for.....a certificate, a few signs, banners? Yea! In El Paso, TX officials and police are milking this award (2nd safest city in America) to the hilt. Mayor, City Council, City Manager, Police Chief are all taking credit and daring the citizens to complain about recent criminal activity on the police force and corruption in city government. Why....we’re the 2nd safest city in America. How dare you question us? I think these lists are worthless. Opinions?


47 posted on 11/13/2010 1:54:34 PM PST by FryingPan101 (Go Huskers!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: FS11

Tulsa? Really? San Fransisco, LA, Dallas and NYC are all much more dangerous cities than Tulsa or OKC.


48 posted on 11/13/2010 2:00:40 PM PST by Peanut Gallery (The essence of freedom is the proper limitation of government.)
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To: FryingPan101

Just the facts, folks.

Lists are compiled from FBI Crime Stats.

http://www.morganquitno.com/cit06pop.htm


49 posted on 11/13/2010 2:01:20 PM PST by FS11
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To: FS11

Yeah. I saw that. Still confuses me. Nearly every house in this town has burglar bars on the windows and security doors on outside entry doors. It’s a mystery.


50 posted on 11/13/2010 2:05:26 PM PST by FryingPan101 (Go Huskers!!!!!!!!!!)
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