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Amazing Interview: Air Force General says "Sub Launched Missile, 100% Certain"
Fox News Interview with Air Force General Tom McInerney | November 14th 2010 | Fox News Hannity Interview

Posted on 11/13/2010 2:55:59 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009

Hannity was surprised to hear a famous ex Air Force General tell him “That Is A Missile, Shot From A Submarine!” I quote retired Air Force Lieutenant General Tom McInerney (ex commander of 11th Air Force in Alaska) “I spent 35 years flying fighters, and you can see the guidance system kick in, I have watched that film 10 times, I am absolutely certain that that is not an aircraft, but a sub launch ICBM missile!!!” See the video and judge his words for yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LivRJOWrcpA&feature=player_embedded#! I will next post a clickable link.


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The Lieut. General states most emphatically "I am absolutely certain that that is not an aircraft".

Reporter adds: "I am not just hearing it from the General, I am hearing it from other sources too. It leaves me to wonder if NORAD knows what they are doing."

Next, Hannity is amazed to hear another reporter say "It may be a toy rocket !!!"

"It could be a bunch a kids on a boat, pranking."

(Laughable.)

The General then replies:

"If you go to any fighter squadron, Navy or Air Force, in the world today, they are going to agree with me..."

Note: He is a command pilot with more than 4,100 flying hours, including 407 combat missions during the Vietnam War. In addition to his Vietnam Service, Gen. McInerney served overseas in NATO; Pacific Air Forces, and as commander of 11th Air Force in Alaska. Currently, he is a Fox News contributor, and is a member of the Iran Policy Committee.

So, we now have:

1) The Editor at Jane's Missile Magazine, Doug Richardson, saying: "Unmistakable missile, you can tell from the exhaust plume".

2) The former Deputy Secretary of Defense, and former US Ambassador to NATO Robert Ellsworth saying "Spectacular; takes your breath away; that is an underwater sub launched ICBM missile!" and "Too big a smoke plume for the Taliban" (Gee, that's good to know).

and now we have famed Lieutenant General Thomas G. McInerney saying the exact same thing, only more emphatically, on Fox News.

So:

Whose missile? For what purpose? Related to events in Korea? G-20 warning or reply from China?

Crazy NORKs ?

Why is the US government stone walling its own people?

Embarrassment? Know any military with inside news?

Will more information leak out in coming days from shocked staffers at the Pentagon and NORAD?

Everyone ...?

1 posted on 11/13/2010 2:56:05 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

“That Is A Missile Shot From A Submarine!”

states retired Lieutenant General Tom McInerney, Fighter Pilot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LivRJOWrcpA&feature=player_embedded#!


2 posted on 11/13/2010 2:57:21 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009; patton; Doohickey; SunkenCiv; EODGUY; sionnsar; neverdem

I don’t think that “It’s certain” ...

But a sub-launched missile fits all the data. It makes sense.

And Obama’s/the administration’s coverup makes sense. See - THEY don’t anybody else to point start pointing fingers at the Chinese.

Because the Chinese are Obama’s only (non-Muslim) allies.


3 posted on 11/13/2010 2:59:03 PM PST by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Ah, but any of the rest of us are near racists for not towing the contrail line.


4 posted on 11/13/2010 2:59:08 PM PST by umgud
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
I quote retired Air Force Lieutenant General Tom McInerney (ex commander of 11th Air Force in Alaska)

I'm glad he's retired.

5 posted on 11/13/2010 3:00:04 PM PST by Moonman62 (Half of all Americans are above average.)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

As soon as I heard about this I immediately thought of the 1996 TWA Flt 800 disaster. Odd, I haven’t heard or read any comparisons in the media. Perhaps I haven’t been paying attention.


6 posted on 11/13/2010 3:00:31 PM PST by Mobties (Let the markets work! Reduce the government footprint!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

the government is doing the same thing they did with ufo’s.


7 posted on 11/13/2010 3:01:32 PM PST by 1st Division guy
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

US, Russian...or Chinese?


8 posted on 11/13/2010 3:01:33 PM PST by moovova (Beauty is in the eye of the beerholder.)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
Did the General say anything about vital bodily fluids?
9 posted on 11/13/2010 3:01:38 PM PST by Grut
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To: umgud
Ah, but any of the rest of us are near racists for not towing the contrail line.

No kidding. We've got FReepers calling us "missile truthers" and some who are truly upset that we dare question the contrail story.

What is going on here?

10 posted on 11/13/2010 3:01:44 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Mobties

We are the “media” these days and we’ve compared and contrasted it plenty ~ now go take a look at a website that PROVES this is an airplane. It’s a picture taken of the same sector of the sky on November 9 at the same time. There’s a contrail from an airplane in the picture that’s more than incredibly similar to the one in the film: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2626757/posts?page=61#61
Now I don’t know about how reliable these Freepers are, but could be they are on to something!


11 posted on 11/13/2010 3:03:29 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: Grut

LOL!


12 posted on 11/13/2010 3:03:52 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: buccaneer81

This is what’s going on. Check out the considered opinion and field work of OTHER Freepers ~ http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2626757/posts?page=61#61


13 posted on 11/13/2010 3:04:31 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

I want to know where the thing landed......


14 posted on 11/13/2010 3:04:51 PM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Mobties
I haven’t heard or read any comparisons in the media.

The press steadfastly refused to report TWA 800 as a shoot-down, despite scores of independent witnesses who saw a rocket rise from the ocean and strike the aircraft. Clinton was in the White House.

I'll be very surprised if they show that Barry Soetero left the US with its pants down.

15 posted on 11/13/2010 3:05:12 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: muawiyah
Now I don’t know about how reliable these Freepers are,

My guess is they are less reliable than General McInerney and Doug Richardson of Jane's Missiles and Rockets.

16 posted on 11/13/2010 3:05:23 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

I didn’t see this segment, so thanks for posting this. After so many actual experts (as opposed to armchair guessers) saying this was a missile, I’m convinced that’s what it was. The only question remaining is, whose missile was it?


17 posted on 11/13/2010 3:06:00 PM PST by MizSterious ("Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Add this to the Internet speculation that the recent gulf oil rig explosion was actually caused by an NK sub, and we are going to need alot more tin foil.

==


18 posted on 11/13/2010 3:06:10 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

I watched the video and it sure looked like a missile to me.

It certainly isn’t any ordinary plane. It looks like a solid fuel booster to me.

Conceivably it could be some kind of experimental plane, but in that case, where did it take off from? No signs of an aircraft carrier in the area, which pretty much leaves the only reasonable alternative that it was launched from a submarine.

Chinese sub is my guess. I simply can’t imagine our own government taking the risk of firing a submarine launched missile over the U.S. and possibly Canada.


19 posted on 11/13/2010 3:06:15 PM PST by Cicero
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Well he’s 100% wrong. LOL

The story here isn’t the contrail anymore.

It’s the threads like these and how far off those who the media tells us are “experts” on such phenomenon.


20 posted on 11/13/2010 3:06:21 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

How bout an amateur missle shot from a Chris-Craft? Not an SLBM in my opinion.


21 posted on 11/13/2010 3:06:49 PM PST by joelt
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Thanks for that


22 posted on 11/13/2010 3:07:02 PM PST by Ladycalif ("If you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one." Jesus)
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To: muawiyah

They’re acting like the 21st century version of the Center Fuel Tank crowd.


23 posted on 11/13/2010 3:07:02 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Moonman62

For a “missile” that did zero damage it sure makes a great distraction from far more important issues.

I’m starting to think it was a missle launched by our guys to be used as a distraction. If they wanted to shut down conspiracy talk they could have simply claimed to have launched it themselves.


24 posted on 11/13/2010 3:07:07 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

I am shocked ~ totally shocked ~ and to think that last week on November 3 when the Blue UFO hovered over top the Satellite Service near Centerville VA I didn’t call everybody’s attention to the fact they launched all the jet fighters out of a nearby Army airbase. Try this thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2626757/posts?page=61#61


25 posted on 11/13/2010 3:07:24 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

I think it’s most likely it was from an airplane, but who knows for sure?

In order to successfully threaten and intimidate, you have to leave no doubt that that is what you are doing. In my opinion this “is it a missile or not?” stuff is much too subtle for the thugs in Beijing.


26 posted on 11/13/2010 3:07:43 PM PST by devere
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

I’ll settle this thing once and for all, it was a jet fired from a submarine! ;-)


27 posted on 11/13/2010 3:07:48 PM PST by Normal4me
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To: buccaneer81

What is going on here ?
Don’t you believe you govt? /sarc


28 posted on 11/13/2010 3:08:12 PM PST by certrtwngnut
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

I predict you are going to get tread on.


29 posted on 11/13/2010 3:08:16 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

McInerny is spot on.


30 posted on 11/13/2010 3:09:07 PM PST by aviator (Armored Pest Control)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

I forgot to add

#3) Webcam operators at LAX “Incredible. Have not seen anything like it in our 20 years at LAX. Not sure what it was but very fast” (This link posted previously)

So

#4) Interview on Hannity with General Tom McInerney

Quite a few photos at the blog posting: http://state-of-the-nation.com/

I have posted several photos here on FR previously ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2625609/posts

And a search for title word “missile” will turn up many others:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2625028/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2625286/posts


31 posted on 11/13/2010 3:09:18 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Vertical missle contrails will not leave a shadow like this one did in this photo;

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2626757/posts?page=49#49

It’s basic physics, think it though.


32 posted on 11/13/2010 3:10:43 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marylin vos Savant)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
“Why is the US government stone walling its own people?”

Remember: The government doesn't work for the people, the people work for the government.

33 posted on 11/13/2010 3:10:46 PM PST by Starboard
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To: certrtwngnut
Don’t you believe you govt? /sarc

LOL! LBJ cured me of that!

34 posted on 11/13/2010 3:11:11 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Pretty good argument here that it was a plane:

http://blog.bahneman.com/content/it-was-us-airways-flight-808


35 posted on 11/13/2010 3:11:54 PM PST by advance_copy (Stand for life or nothing at all)
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To: Moonman62
I'm glad he's retired.

You beat me.

36 posted on 11/13/2010 3:12:28 PM PST by kbennkc (For those who have fought for it freedom has a flavor the protected will never know .F Trp 8th Cav)
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To: brytlea

“I predict you are going to get tread on.”

Nice thing about this is I can very safely predict
this kind of contrail illusion will continue to happen again and again in the future.

I also predict nobody will ever type “I was wrong” about this. LOL


37 posted on 11/13/2010 3:12:40 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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To: basil

I’m not worried, because the photo looks like the “missile” is headed east, away from the Pacific coast. I’m thinking their ( whoever “their” is) aim isn’t very good, if they were trying to hit something.


38 posted on 11/13/2010 3:12:43 PM PST by WestwardHo (Whom the gods would destroy, they first drive mad.)
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To: TigersEye

ping


39 posted on 11/13/2010 3:12:46 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: advance_copy

Yet US Airways has clammed up since day one.


40 posted on 11/13/2010 3:13:06 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Mobties

They did an admirable job of covering up that shoot down. TWA Flt 800, it brings back memories of the bogus fuel tank explosion.


41 posted on 11/13/2010 3:13:14 PM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: advance_copy

“Pretty good argument here that it was a plane:

http://blog.bahneman.com/content/it-was-us-airways-flight-808";

Beyond obvious it was.

But that isn’t what it’s about now.


42 posted on 11/13/2010 3:14:02 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares ( Refusing to kneel before the "messiah".)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

I believe you are right about that last one. :)


43 posted on 11/13/2010 3:14:29 PM PST by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: WestwardHo
( whoever “their” is) aim isn’t very good, if they were trying to hit something.

"Shots across the bow" aren't meant to hit anything.

44 posted on 11/13/2010 3:14:55 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81
But they have pictures! All Janes and the retired General have is one picture ~ and they didn't actually stop to think about how wide the blast-off field was if it looks 2 degrees in width at up to 62 miles away (the distance of the horizon at 2500 feet).

That would be the biggest missile launch in all of human history ~ kind of like tying a dozen Saturn Vs together.

When you look up at something maybe 37,000 feet away (6 miles) you are looking through 1/20, at most, the amount of air you are looking through to see the "base" of the contrail. See how it spreads out to the horizon? It's being magnified just like a Full Moon rising on the horizon. It narrows the closer it gets to you as the magnification is reduced.

They say that the closer to the beginning of time we look, the larger the stars appear ~ and that was recently reported to definitely be true. It has to do with the way light is dealt with as it passes through matter and spreads out. Magnifying glasses, eyeblasses, lense appliances inserted after cataract surgery, etc. all work according to the same optical principles.

This stuff happens on large scales and small.

45 posted on 11/13/2010 3:16:24 PM PST by muawiyah (GIT OUT THE WAY ~ REPUBLICANS COMIN' THROUGH)
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To: buccaneer81

Stick with the truth and don’t worry about what others think. I am now going to have to change my mind. I originally thought it was San Fran Nan’s broom going through test flights. No big jet to fly around in don’t ya know. Now I think Chi-coms sending the Big O a message about QE2. He couldn’t care less if a 100 million of us die. So...that won’t work out for them.


46 posted on 11/13/2010 3:17:09 PM PST by Nuc 1.1 (Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009
To make a bit more substantial critique of the General's opinion:

“I spent 35 years flying fighters, and you can see the guidance system kick in...
The first assertion is meaningless unless he spent those 35 years flying fighters while observing ballistic missile launches.

And the guidance system in those suckers is running in the launching tube or silo. It doesn't 'kick in'. I suspect he's thinking about the old SA-2 system we flew against in Vietnam, which followed a pre-programed launch trajectory until the booster dropped off, exposing the guidance antennas.

47 posted on 11/13/2010 3:17:27 PM PST by Grut
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

There are no missiles in LA, Not a single one.

48 posted on 11/13/2010 3:17:30 PM PST by McGruff (A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009; All
This is *exactly* the sort of idiocy enemies of America are taking notes on. How easy is it to fool the gullible Americans? How easily do they drop into fear? Just put a general in front of them, and make him say something stupid, and they will believe it.

Colin Powell says Obama will be the best President. This Lt. General says it's a SLBM.

It's like we've devolved into the Soviet Union or PRC.

It's aircraft contrails, people.


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

49 posted on 11/13/2010 3:18:12 PM PST by The Comedian (I enjoy progressives, especially in a light cream sauce.)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

I didn’t see in the video where the missile emerges from the briney deep and lights up, but the rest of the trip certainly looked like a missile.


50 posted on 11/13/2010 3:18:29 PM PST by Paladin2
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