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Video Report of Swedish Sub That Sunk The USS Ronald Reagan (Did China Use One To Fire Missile?)
ChicoER Gate ^ | 11/13/10 | Chuck Wolk

Posted on 11/13/2010 5:20:27 PM PST by Amos McCoy

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Ever since WWII, America has been a dominant force upon the high seas. We have become so advanced in our military technology that the Soviet Union eventually collapsed, in large part because Ronald Reagan would not back down against them. In honor of his accomplishments and great leadership, congress named the worlds largest aircraft carrier after him, the USS Ronald Reagan

Thanks to Reagan, America has been able to set the standard for which other nations have wished to achieve. Well it has been 22 years since Reagan left office, and while we have been able to hold our status as the worlds most powerful military force the world has ever seen, those days could be coming to an end. Thanks in large part to the anti military sentiment that prevails in Washington, America is beginning to lose the battle of technological advancement.

What you will see in this video is a report about the HMS Gotland, a Swedish submarine that the US Navy says, "This could be the most dangerous submarine in the world". That's because naval ships cannot detected it until they are so close they would already have been sunk. Something that has happened in war games time and time again. Even our best and most powerful naval ships have been repeatedly sunk in mock war games. Check out this report by Chuck Henry of channel 4 news out of San Diego. Henry reports that the US Navy is attempting to figure out how to detect the Swedish submarine before our enemies can discover the secret of its elusiveness.
Follow this link to see the video report of the, Swedish Sub That Sunk The USS Ronald Reagan

I am glad our navy is trying to figure out a way to detect this sub before a rogue nation like Iran or North Korea gets their hands on the technology for it. However, it should be other countries trying to figure out how to stop us and our equipment, not the other way around. Which brings me to the million dollar question, "Why are we even in this predicament"?

Well it begins with the fact that most Americans do not know that the US Constitution explicitly states that the number one job of the United States Government is to secure the borders of America. That's right. The founding fathers knew that it was incumbent upon the government to defend our interests on the high sees so that we have a fair chance of trade via the oceans and now through the air.

Too many Americans do know realize that the founding fathers never planned for the government to supply social spending for programs that would turn Americans into lazy unproductive citizens, who would constantly demand more of what they themselves are responsible for. Most of all, they never expected the government they created to be giving away our rights and money to people who are living illegally within our borders. The governments should be defending our borders from all who would do us harm, not defending the rights of illegals over the rights of citizens of this country.

When a sizable portion of the citizens of any nation puts out their hands and demands more and more from other Americans, who are fed up with the high taxation just to accommodate them, will inevitably fall from within. If we cannot stop the bleeding from within, then we will not have the funds needed to keep our military strong. When that happens we will be unable to defend ourselves from the likes of China, Russia or any other rogue nation hellbent on destroying us.

When a sizable portion of the citizens of any nation puts out their hands and demands more and more from other Americans, who are fed up with the high taxation just to accommodate them, will inevitably fall from within. If we cannot stop the bleeding from within, then we will not have the funds needed to keep our military strong. When that happens we will be unable to defend ourselves from the likes of China, Russia or any other rogue nation hellbent on destroying us.

Like Johnson, Carter, and Clinton, before him, Obama is now in the process of destroying our military so that we will not be able to defend ourselves, thus ending our sovereignty. This is something the leftist have been wanting to see happen for almost a 100 years. The proof of our failures are right before our eyes. Now we just need patriotic leaders who not only recognize those failures, but are also ready to reverse the damage done by years of unconstitutional socialist spending that has left America vulnerable to attacks by our enemy's.

Well just this week we saw what could be a result of liberals having control of our nations pocket book and military. The recent news CBS video report (below) about the contrail that the military says was from a plane, but many are claiming to be from a missile contrail is what I speak of. Now this Swedish sub story becomes very relevant to the current debate about our military readiness.

What are the chances that China may have purchased a few, or stolen the technology for the type of submarine our Navy cannot detect? After, I have learned that diesel-electric subs from countries such as Norway and Australia have scored 'kills' on US and British ships in exercises. Maybe none as dramatic or as consistently as the Swedish sub, but it's not inconceivable that a Chinese Jin-class SSBN (Photo at op of article) could be modified to come close enough to a US carrier. Or at least close enough to our mainland to fire a missile into the skies so a news crew could film it.

Let's just say for arguments sake that China wanted to send a message that they own us economically, and with the idiot Obama in power they could also own us militarily. If I were China and wanted to send a warning shot over the good ship USA'a proverbial bow, then I would do it at a time when we are vulnerable. What better time than when Obama has high tailed it to India with 34 war ships in tow?

Think about it. America's MSM is still preoccupied with their take on the Democrats historic defeat and there is a whole the size of the moon in the Pacific where there was once 34 war ships. Perfect time to test fire a missile from a modified Jin-Class SSBN, just to see if you can. After all, the Chinese know that the Democrat propaganda machine, the MSM, will cover for Obama and lie to the American people even if they do find out. Besides, what's the worst thing Obama would do to China if he found out? Burn down his old neighborhood maybe, but he would never admit he was caught off guard. No, Obama's busy trying to figure out,

How can we blame this on George Bush?




TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bloggersandpersonal; contrail; missile; navy; nukecarrier; nukesub; obama; repost; tinfoilbrigade; ussreagan
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This is a very good possibility. Anyone agree? Or disagree?
1 posted on 11/13/2010 5:20:40 PM PST by Amos McCoy
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To: Amos McCoy

The author demonstrates a mind-boggling ignorance of submarines. Nothing could be more different than a Swedish diesel-electric with AIP and the Chinese Jin-class SSBN.


2 posted on 11/13/2010 5:28:19 PM PST by Strategerist
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To: Amos McCoy

I wonder how much stealth technology that the Swedes are using came from our silent propulsion secrets those bastards at Toshiba sold Russia?


3 posted on 11/13/2010 5:33:58 PM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: Amos McCoy

I just lost ten points of IQ reading that.


4 posted on 11/13/2010 5:34:22 PM PST by hc87
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To: Strategerist
Yep don't even get me started on the media ignorance of Surface ships I don't know how many Newspapers I read that referenced ANY warship as a "Battleship"

ugh, just shows the complete collapse of journalism (I bet if we would have asked the New York Times Marx's birthday they would know lol!)

5 posted on 11/13/2010 5:35:21 PM PST by KC_Lion (Lord help our Armed Service members that they not become pawns in Hussein's quest to destroy America)
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To: Amos McCoy
The recent news CBS video report (below) about the contrail that the military says was from a plane, but many are claiming to be from a missile contrail is what I speak of.

What drivel. There was no conspiracy between Los Angeles-area radar operators to conceal a missile launch.

6 posted on 11/13/2010 5:40:43 PM PST by TChad
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To: Slump Tester

Did they sell sub propulsion secrets? I thought it was the sale of a CNC milling machine.


7 posted on 11/13/2010 5:40:53 PM PST by James C. Bennett
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To: Amos McCoy
Ahh, You Sunk My Battleship!
8 posted on 11/13/2010 5:41:01 PM PST by BallyBill (WARNING:Taking me serious could cause stress related illness.)
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To: TChad

The video report is about the Swedish sub that sunk the USS RR in mock war games. Do you read or just automatically figure you know everything there is to know already so you might as well attack the whole article?


9 posted on 11/13/2010 6:00:54 PM PST by Amos McCoy (I am, The Real McCoy!)
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To: Amos McCoy

btt


10 posted on 11/13/2010 6:04:13 PM PST by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Amos McCoy
It's just a blog rant, Amos, and based on information that's not new. While it has some true generalities, they are extrapolated to grossly over emphasize the threat.

On the other hand, no surface ship is EVER safe from submarine attack.

Politically, China won't piss off the US market by doing anything just off the US coast, they've got everything they want already, and Zer0 did it for free.

11 posted on 11/13/2010 6:04:20 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Sarah and the Conservatives will rock your world.)
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To: TChad

My bad, I miss read what you wrote. I guess i should head my own warning about reading before commenting. Sorry.

The video you had questioned was the video about the contrail. What the author is saying, many disagree with the government’s findings. Even many Freepers think it was a missile. So are the thousands and thousands of freepers who think it was a missile just as loony?


12 posted on 11/13/2010 6:07:28 PM PST by Amos McCoy (I am, The Real McCoy!)
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To: Amos McCoy

I think Rahm launched the LA missile.


13 posted on 11/13/2010 6:08:28 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Navy Patriot
Politically, China won't piss off the US market by doing anything just off the US coast, they've got everything they want already, and Zer0 did it for free.

I would agree in general, but you don't think that maybe this guy's (blogger's) suggestion that China did fire one to see if they could, knowing Obummer would do nothing about it?
14 posted on 11/13/2010 6:09:48 PM PST by Amos McCoy (I am, The Real McCoy!)
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To: Slump Tester
I wonder how much stealth technology that the Swedes are using came from our silent propulsion secrets those bastards at Toshiba sold Russia?

Very little, if any. The Swedes have the capability to develope quieter screws themselves. But what makes this sub so dangerous is it's engines. They are quiet, like a diesel-electric on batteries, but can stay down a long time, and make long moderately fast runs, without having to surface, like a nuke boat. Not quiet so or long or so fast, but long enough and fast enough. Especially in the littoral areas.

The Swedes aren't the only ones going AIP. The Italians, the Japanese and the Germans are as well.

15 posted on 11/13/2010 6:10:46 PM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Amos McCoy

What better way to keep enemies from developing real undetectable subs than saying you can’t detect them already.


16 posted on 11/13/2010 6:14:58 PM PST by kickonly88 (I love fossil fuel!)
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To: Strategerist

Ya gotta love it when people with no military background speculate on military matters.


17 posted on 11/13/2010 6:17:11 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Amos McCoy

Personally I think its just a distraction.

Obama’s regulatory czar has spoken of using conspiracy theories to discredit, distract or otherwise lead opposition.

After all, the military could have simply said it was one of theirs and nobody would have questioned it any further.


18 posted on 11/13/2010 6:25:29 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Amos McCoy
Just buy one,thru a third party if necessary, and reverse engineer it.
19 posted on 11/13/2010 6:32:08 PM PST by nomad
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To: Amos McCoy
NorCal Blogs
20 posted on 11/13/2010 6:37:23 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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