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Khalid Shaikh Mohammed will be held in military prison without a trial indefinitely: report
New York Daily News ^ | 11/13/10 | Samuel Goldsmith

Posted on 11/13/2010 7:54:08 PM PST by Nachum

Khalid Shaikh Mohammed will likely be held in military prison without a trial indefinitely as the Obama administration decides what to do with the 9/11 mastermind, according to a new report. A trial - civilian or military - is not expected to happen before the next presidential election, the Washington Post reported Saturday. The Obama administration apparently fears backlash will come from either decision.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: khalid; mohammed; prison; shaikh
Well well, the worm has certainly turned for Obama and Holder.
1 posted on 11/13/2010 7:54:15 PM PST by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


2 posted on 11/13/2010 7:57:02 PM PST by Nachum (The complete Obama list at www.nachumlist.com)
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To: Nachum
The Military Trial was already underway when Obama halted it.
3 posted on 11/13/2010 7:59:10 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: Nachum

BTTT


4 posted on 11/13/2010 8:00:51 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (*)
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To: tobyhill
Send him back to Gitmo, finish the trial, then hang his sorry ass.
5 posted on 11/13/2010 8:01:49 PM PST by ItsForTheChildren
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To: Nachum

Thanks for posting. That POS can die knowing that he was incarcerated...so his beloved jihad WAS NOT SUCCESSFUL when he takes his last oxygen-wasting breath. (Or if you let me at him I can tell you about oxygen “created or saved”)

Life, liberty and the pursuit and destruction of totalitarians.

Fislam


6 posted on 11/13/2010 8:02:11 PM PST by PGalt
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To: Nachum

This is certainly a fine mess, you got us in, Odumbo.


7 posted on 11/13/2010 8:02:47 PM PST by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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To: Nachum

I thought that Zer0 and H0lder wanted to “bring it on” in order to show the world....something or other....


8 posted on 11/13/2010 8:03:18 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Nachum; onyx; STARWISE

Hummmm


9 posted on 11/13/2010 8:06:44 PM PST by tubebender (If you can not read, this thread will tell you how to get help)
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To: ItsForTheChildren

Exactly. He was ready to plea guilty in exchange for making him a “martyr”.


10 posted on 11/13/2010 8:06:51 PM PST by tobyhill
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To: Nachum
Sounds like they're kicking the Tin Mohammad down the road.
11 posted on 11/13/2010 8:07:41 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (If Sarah Palin was President, you would have a job by now...)
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To: Nachum

He brought about the biggest attack on America since Pearl Harbor, and we have to think about it for 2 more years?

Every day some outrageous news comes from this administration. Every single day.


12 posted on 11/13/2010 8:08:43 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: Nachum

What disgraceful cowardice, unworthy of the Presidency! At least Bush made a decision when faced with a choice, and that decision frequently pissed SOMEONE off. But he MADE it.


13 posted on 11/13/2010 8:09:47 PM PST by montag813 (http://www.facebook,com/StandWithArizona)
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To: tubebender

This evil regime is literally clothed in secrecy and totally inept. Thank you for the ping. I’ve missed you!!!


14 posted on 11/13/2010 8:10:15 PM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: Nachum

Well since he closed gitmo he can’t keep him there.


15 posted on 11/13/2010 8:15:21 PM PST by ully2 (ully)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Define 'indefinitely'.

As a student of language change, it's occurring more rapidly lately, JJ.

Tomorrow's will add to my confusion.
16 posted on 11/13/2010 8:15:39 PM PST by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: onyx

So would you say my disguise is working?

I had dropped in on the thread about Holder and Rahm that Starwise had posted earlier earlier


17 posted on 11/13/2010 8:17:40 PM PST by tubebender (If you can not read, this thread will tell you how to get help)
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To: Nachum

Fine by me. The longer he rots, the better. Hope there is no toilet in his cell so he sits and sleeps on his own feces.


18 posted on 11/13/2010 8:18:06 PM PST by libh8er
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To: ItsForTheChildren

New cell. Spare no expense building a pig sty.


19 posted on 11/13/2010 8:28:29 PM PST by K-oneTexas (I'm not a judge and there ain't enough of me to be a jury. (Zell Miller, A National Party No More))
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To: Nachum

I guess this means Obama voted ‘present’ again?


20 posted on 11/13/2010 8:52:06 PM PST by jerry639
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To: Nachum

Not that I like KSM, isn’t indefinite detention without hope of trial unfair? It is certainly unconstitutional to do to US citizen; the “law,” if you can call it that, relating to enemy combatants, is less clear and seems to have been rethought by recent SCOTUS decisions.


21 posted on 11/13/2010 8:53:46 PM PST by Fractal Trader
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To: Kickass Conservative

Punt. The %^&#% can’t make a true executive decision to save his tail.


22 posted on 11/13/2010 8:58:26 PM PST by bootless (Never Forget. Never Again. (PursuingLiberty.com))
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To: Nachum

IIRC, didn’t Atty Gen Holder already predict with (pretend) confidence that ksm would get the death penalty?


23 posted on 11/13/2010 8:59:33 PM PST by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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To: Nachum

Indefinite detention. The likely fate of most any POW (even if it is unlawful warfare that is waged against us)


24 posted on 11/13/2010 8:59:34 PM PST by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: ItsForTheChildren

I say string him up from the new Freedom tower......


25 posted on 11/13/2010 9:01:03 PM PST by njslim
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To: Paladin2
The story in the Washington Post is revealing.

You have to read between the lines, but basically Obama and Holder were gung-ho to hold a civilian trial in NYC and they were planning to go forward with it, despite the drubbing the Dems took in the election.

Then Chuck Schumer and Gov.-elect Cuomo paid a little visit to the WH and told Obama that there was no way that they were going to allow a KSM trial in Manhattan, and that if 0 insisted on going forward, that there would be some very unpleasant consequences. These weren't spelled out exactly, but I imagine it had something to do with helping make sure 0 is a one-term president.

So, 0, not wanting to provoke a public battle with fellow Dems from a super-blue state, has decided to shelve the trial for now, although he remains committed to it in principle.

26 posted on 11/13/2010 9:05:46 PM PST by mojito
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To: Fractal Trader

——It is certainly unconstitutional to do to US citizen

Pointless comment. He is not a citizen.

-—the “law,” if you can call it that, relating to enemy combatants, is less clear and seems to have been rethought by recent SCOTUS decisions.

We should observe the directly governing ‘law’ which is the
Geneva Convention, under which KSM merited immediate execution and lacking that - military tribunals.


27 posted on 11/13/2010 9:09:24 PM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: Nachum

What? No public trial in Manhattan for KSM during the 2012 election cycle. Sarah was right - no cojones.


28 posted on 11/13/2010 9:31:29 PM PST by excopconservative
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To: Nachum
Boy is it not fun to vote for a historic president with the experience level of a walmart stockier, and the logic base of Castro to office!

Day one in office he announces that Gitmo is closing in 12 months! Then to show his resolve he spends a Billion Dollars on a used prison in Illinois to convert to Gitmo North. Of course we know that Gitmo is still open and the used prison is still closed.

After running on a platform that Bush was evil because its cruel to keep guys locked up in Gitmo indefinitely while declaring the Military Tribunals were evil his stooge Attorney General Holder announces that KSM will be tried in NY. After a shocked reaction from the City of NY, Ohaha decides to put that suggestion on hold and seek other solutions.

So now within weeks of the 2 year anniversary of Bamsters Gitmo closing party where do we stand.
1. Ohaha is still against military trials.
2. Obama refuses to have a trial in NY, so he chooses to keep KSM locked up forever!

Yep I agree with Ohaha, it isn't that the American people are against his decisions, they just have done a poor job explaining them to us. Thank God Ohaha is really good at making trade agreements with Asian nations or we would be in real trouble.

29 posted on 11/13/2010 10:00:23 PM PST by JohnD9207 (John McCain is a proud Ted Kennedy conservative!)
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That’s just fine: for the rest of his sorry life. Because I fear our “leaders” would never find the courage to execute him in any case.


30 posted on 11/13/2010 10:11:13 PM PST by Godwin1
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To: Nachum

Sounds like a ‘present’ vote to me.


31 posted on 11/13/2010 10:58:59 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Nachum

Anti-Bush mania at a lull.


32 posted on 11/13/2010 11:02:08 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Nachum

I don’t believe a word of it.


33 posted on 11/13/2010 11:24:11 PM PST by Carley (WE SAW NOVEMBER FROM OUR HOUSE)
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To: Fractal Trader

“Not that I like KSM, isn’t indefinite detention without hope of trial unfair? It is certainly unconstitutional to do to US citizen; the “law,” if you can call it that, relating to enemy combatants, is less clear and seems to have been rethought by recent SCOTUS decisions.”

My first thot as well. But now we even have US citizens on O’s hit list ... what a mess. I’m waiting for the ACLU to chime in. There is lots of money to be made here for someone. I should have become an attorney. Bill the taxpayers and get rich on this one case. Paging Mr. Edwards. Would John Edwards pick up the red phone, please.


34 posted on 11/13/2010 11:25:34 PM PST by Bobibutu
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To: Fractal Trader
I agree with you. If it was President Bush doing this, there would be a huge out cry. Obama— not so much. Hmm.
35 posted on 11/13/2010 11:38:23 PM PST by MacMattico
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To: Bobibutu

The way I have always looked at it, KSM is a terrorist who should have been shot on sight. Since that didn’t happen, it is to our benefit that we consider him be a soldier of sorts.

He is a part of Al Quaeda’s declared war on western civilization. A war that will never end, and without a specific country/ governemnt that would ever have the authority to surrender on behalf of all jihadists.

Therefore, he would always remain ineligible for repatriation, even if he were someone who we had little evidence against. He is the enemy in a current war, and he serves an entity that cannot offer a conclusion in an internationally recognized “state based” sense. I.e. it leaves him in permanent limbo

Would we have repatriated German soldiers during WWII, if that war were still being fought today? No. They would still be POW’s.

As for a fair trial, it is more than any one of these createns deserve. That is, unless it’s sure to end in execution. If there’s a chance we wouldn’t get that verdict, we should hold them in a dark prison forever or until Mohammed presents himself to offer a written surrender on their behalf.


36 posted on 11/14/2010 12:12:11 AM PST by Greenpees (Coulda Shoulda Woulda)
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To: Nachum

Can you believe this?

The next pubbie candidate will certainly be able to gripe about the many, many, big messes left to him/her by Obama.

Keep that car in the ditch, big O!

You are doing a great job. Not.


37 posted on 11/14/2010 2:29:01 AM PST by jocon307
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To: montag813

“But he MADE it.”

I realized the importance of being willing to make decisions long ago. And I am bad at that.

I worked in an ice cream store in NYC. People would come in with odd requests. Like - can you give/sell me paper cups.

I would never know what to do. But I had a co-worker who’d say “5 cents each”, take the money and put it in the drawer.

It may sound silly, but I really admired her for that. It was a lesson to me.

Too bad Obama never had a real job, like working in an ice cream store.


38 posted on 11/14/2010 2:33:15 AM PST by jocon307
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To: Nachum

The Bamster votes Present again.

Here’s an out for the administration: declare the Shaikh an extremely late trimester fetus give his mother a retroactive partial birth abortion.

Win-Win all the way around. The moose gets his Virgin frequent flayer rewards. Bamster chalks up another one for “reproductive freedom”, and the enemy (Republicans, Americans) are finally satisfied.


39 posted on 11/14/2010 2:51:04 AM PST by Blado (Bambi - The New Animitronic TelePuppet™ from Sauros Industries! It bows, picks its nose, flips bird)
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To: Nachum

What a wonderful cap to the “The American people are cowards” rant by Holder and Obama’s ability to sell anybody anything anytime persona.

The next President should give the order to take his plea and fulfill his wish to try collection on the 72 virgins. He/she should be the one to give the order to proceed at the execution just to make it perfectly clear who is in charge. Then have the rest of the scum being held in an assembly line parade to join the same heap under the gallows.

The next step would be to repopulate Gitmo as the war proceeds and end the silliness of the unending legal hassles by giving the Military Tribunals clear passage to do what they do. Those who do not meet the test for execution should be sent to the newly constructed prison on the edge of the artic circle for a life sentence to hard labor.


40 posted on 11/14/2010 3:57:01 AM PST by mazda77 (Mike Hogan - JAX Mayor)
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To: FlyingEagle
He brought about the biggest attack on America since Pearl Harbor, and we have to think about it for 2 more years?

If we were thinking about it, planning it, etc. it might be OK.

BUT....

They are doing nothing as they are paralyzed with FEAR. FEAR OF BACKLASH!

They are letting the jihadi win. They are still sending bombs to America, they are still trying to kill Christians and Jews ...it is all still going on whether this SOB goes to trial or not!

Courage and leadership are certainly not in America's White House.

41 posted on 11/14/2010 4:05:47 AM PST by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: EBH

A “Bushism” that the lamemedia do not repeat:

“The third plane that flew into the Pentagon was a declaration of war.”

We must remember to quote this whenever possible to people who are beginning to forget.


42 posted on 11/14/2010 5:10:21 AM PST by maica
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To: Nachum
"The Obama administration apparently fears backlash will come from either decision."

Little boy Barry votes 'present' again. This Presidentin' sure is tough.

43 posted on 11/14/2010 5:28:50 AM PST by norwaypinesavage (Galileo: In science, the authority of a thousand is not worth the humble reasoning of one individual)
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To: jerry639

Excellent! That is exactly what he did, faced with having to make a hard decision he decided to make no decision at all.


44 posted on 11/14/2010 6:26:54 AM PST by ops33 (Senior Master Sergeant, USAF (Retired))
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To: Nachum

As I’ve been saying for the past several years, GTMO ain’t closing ANYTIME SOON.

And it is VERY likely that “Detainee operations” at GTMO will not come to an end until the last “detainee” dies in place of natural causes.


45 posted on 11/14/2010 12:52:53 PM PST by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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