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Obama Praises Indian Chief Who Killed U.S. General (Sitting Bull)
fox ^ | 11/15/10

Posted on 11/15/2010 10:22:04 AM PST by Nachum

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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
Custer, who had not earned his brevet calvary generalship during the Civil War for his levelheadedness and reserve was probably the wrong person to send on such a mission

Good point. He should have been ordered to stay away from Indians unless it was an all-out battle where they needed his courageous war-fighting skills. Sensitive politics and restraint were beyond Custer's comprehension.

61 posted on 11/15/2010 11:08:08 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: Nachum

Read “My Life on the Prairie” by Custer and you get a really good picture of the man.

Highlights:

He positively hated the Bureau of Indian Affairs. A Bureau that should have been ended 150 years ago.


62 posted on 11/15/2010 11:08:54 AM PST by texmexis best
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To: kingu
“Last I checked, American Indians were US citizens, and since when is it bad to celebrate an American who stood up to a lying and cheating federal government who sends troops after women and children?”

And the stupid bastrich who thought it was terrible when women and kids were killed on his side, but just fine when done to the Indians. Kindly note that the “Battle of Wounded Knee” was also the 7th following the example of their former leader. (Not that Indians were considered citizens back then. Nope. Foreign nationals.)

As another poster noted, good and bad on both sides. AFAIK, I have no Indian blood, but I recognize that they got a rotten deal. Custer wasn't the best representative of our forces. Probably not the worst, either.

63 posted on 11/15/2010 11:09:06 AM PST by Old Student
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To: ArrogantBustard
His name is "Reads From Telepromter".

That's good; I was thinking "Dances With Teleprompters"...

64 posted on 11/15/2010 11:11:31 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: ridesthemiles

Didn’t Custer hold the brevet or temporary rank of Brigadier General during the Civil War (War between the States, War of Northern Agression) and was reduced to his permanent rank of Lt. Colonel after the war?


65 posted on 11/15/2010 11:12:02 AM PST by fredhead (Liberals think globally, reason rectally, act idiotically.)
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To: ridesthemiles

“Another salute to NObama’s unknown & hidden ‘education’.

He doesn’t even know the details about Custer.

I went to a one-room school thru 7th grade. I knew Custer was NOT a General.”

IIRC, it’s customary to refer to a deceased military person by their highest rank held. General would be correct, socially anyway, even though IIRC he was a Lieutenant Colonel when he died.


66 posted on 11/15/2010 11:14:04 AM PST by Old Student
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To: Monkey Face

And for what it’s worth: I love Adam Beach!


67 posted on 11/15/2010 11:14:14 AM PST by Monkey Face (In God we trust!)
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To: CJ Wolf
Walking Eagle - So full of crap he can not fly.

Not bad - and certainly true.

68 posted on 11/15/2010 11:15:02 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: andy58-in-nh
I can think of a few.....

Waglula.....

Cezin....

Makamnaya...

O' ko wayelo...

Among others.......

69 posted on 11/15/2010 11:16:03 AM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: ansel12

Say what?


70 posted on 11/15/2010 11:17:00 AM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Little Ray
Better for him.....

Not so much for the Lakota.

71 posted on 11/15/2010 11:18:35 AM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: antiRepublicrat

I believe the important point is that Obama (or more accurately his ghost writer) did their best to find a character that would cast the U. S. in a bad light.

No, Custer wasn’t the sort of person we should herald. Still, as a president, do you loft our worst to encourage others, or do you loft the best we have had to lift up our children?

This man (Obama) is an egotistical nightmare. And if Custer is so damned bad for being precisely the same thing, only and idiot like Obama would raise the issue oblivious to the obvious comparisons.

I have a hard time reading a thread like this, only to find some Conservatives as oblivious as Obama on the subject.

What three to ten year old kid is going to understand the lessons of Custer? This is nothing but a trashing of the U. S. in children’s eyes. It’s “Learning to Hate America - 101”. Obama gets his foot in the door early, on destroying respect for our nation.


72 posted on 11/15/2010 11:23:42 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Your next chance like this? About 2044. Vote popularity and don't waste time with the details.)
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To: Osage Orange

Well, I’m living on land that was stolen from Cherokees, and I’m not hypocrite enough to wish death on US Cavalrymen, even if, IMHO, they were in the wrong.

And I was in the Cav, too (11 ACR).


73 posted on 11/15/2010 11:28:51 AM PST by Little Ray (The Gods of the Copybook Heading, with terror and slaughter return!)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Colonel Sanders?

Arrogant, his name, if it was given to him by Indians, would be “He who reads floating words” or “He who sees words in the air”.


74 posted on 11/15/2010 11:30:03 AM PST by Terry Mross
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To: Nachum
Sitting Bull did kill Custer...in Buffalo Bill's show. It isn't the historical consensus that he even participated in the actual battle. The campaign of which the Last Stand was only a part was not aimed at the Sioux, but their allies the Cheyenne. The Sioux did, however, have people off the reservation and Sitting Bull was smart enough to know that their turn would come, which was what the meeting was all about.

The one thing that everyone who was there seemed to agree on was that it was a very strange affair. Whatever Custer's real tactical intentions were, a massacre wasn't one of them. Custer did have his vainglorious tendencies but completely discarding his intelligence information as he did was not typical behavior. And numerous spoken histories on the part of the Sioux contained a sincere disbelief that he could have committed the series of blunders that placed him three-quarters of the way up a poorly defensible ridge.

Much of the mythology that surrounds the event is a function of Custer's wife, who tactfully omitted certain particulars (his Native American mistress, for one), and of Buffalo Bill's show, that sensationalized the battle and turned it into a media event. Both Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse strike me as rather admirable men, and so, for all his faults, does Custer, whose career paralleled Crazy Horse's in some very interesting ways. But of them, Sitting Bull was by far the superior strategist. IMHO.

75 posted on 11/15/2010 11:31:57 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Little Ray
Never said you were a hypocrite....

I just stated what I thought...

Peace........

76 posted on 11/15/2010 11:34:00 AM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: Osage Orange

What is your question?


77 posted on 11/15/2010 11:35:14 AM PST by ansel12 (Mitt Romney supporter, and anti-tea party figure, Eric Cantor, won this battle.)
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To: ArrogantBustard
Son Of A Thousand Fathers.

I gotta say that's the winner, right there!
78 posted on 11/15/2010 11:38:30 AM PST by texas_mrs
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To: ansel12
IMO....Indians were NATIVE American’s...Before any other man set foot on this Continent.....

Fwiw-

79 posted on 11/15/2010 11:42:21 AM PST by Osage Orange (MOLON LABE)
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To: andy58-in-nh
"...I wonder what Obama’s “Indian name” would be"

Shi##ing Mouth

80 posted on 11/15/2010 11:42:41 AM PST by sniper63 (I am the leader of the TEA Party, I, myself am the leader of me, myself for I am the TEA Party!)
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