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Fighting Sioux forced by NCAA to change mascot, brand
NewsChief.com ^ | November 15, 2010 | Dave Kolpack

Posted on 11/15/2010 1:37:51 PM PST by Fiji Hill

Edited on 11/15/2010 2:36:07 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Published: Monday, November 15, 2010 at 2:37 p.m. Last Modified: Monday, November 15, 2010 at 2:37 p.m.

GRAND FORKS, N.D. - Duke without the Blue Devil? Notre Dame without the Fighting Irish? Most students and alumni at those proud universities wouldn't dream of dropping those enduring symbols of school pride.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; US: North Dakota
KEYWORDS: chat; dakota; fightingsioux; indians; lakota; ncaa; nd; pc; sioux; sports; tribes; und
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1 posted on 11/15/2010 1:37:59 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill
They should change it to this:


2 posted on 11/15/2010 1:39:16 PM PST by dfwgator (Texas Rangers -Thanks for a great season.)
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To: Fiji Hill

Another Pyrrhic victory for the ‘we know better’ crowd.


3 posted on 11/15/2010 1:39:21 PM PST by relictele (Me lumen vos umbra regit)
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To: Fiji Hill
This must come under the same brand of nonsense that says only black people can use the N-word.
4 posted on 11/15/2010 1:39:38 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The people who hate Sarah Palin hate her because they know that her Presidency is inevitable.)
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To: Fiji Hill

This is pathetic. The tribes would rather be thought of as the “Drunk, Unemployed, Meth-Head Sioux”? You’d think they would appreciate the memorial to their glory days.


5 posted on 11/15/2010 1:39:54 PM PST by Tax-chick (Cry me a river, build yourself a bridge, and GET OVER IT.)
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To: Fiji Hill

I’m a twin and am hopping mad about Minnesota’s baseball team! :)


6 posted on 11/15/2010 1:40:45 PM PST by albie
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To: Fiji Hill

hey NCAA: how ‘bout checking out STFU?

Ridiculous.

Colonel, USAFR


7 posted on 11/15/2010 1:41:47 PM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: Fiji Hill
The NCAA needs to move out of Indianapolis, Indiana.
8 posted on 11/15/2010 1:41:53 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Fiji Hill
Right. Where is NCAA headquarters located again? Oh yeah, Indianapolis, Indiana.
9 posted on 11/15/2010 1:41:58 PM PST by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: Fiji Hill

It worked ok for 80 years, now suddenly, it’s not ok.


10 posted on 11/15/2010 1:42:21 PM PST by albie
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To: Fiji Hill

NCAA= Not Consistant About Anything.


11 posted on 11/15/2010 1:42:25 PM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: Paladin2

Wow, we think a LOT alike...scary...


12 posted on 11/15/2010 1:43:09 PM PST by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: Land Despoiling Savages

If you don't like it here then go back to Asia where you came from.

13 posted on 11/15/2010 1:43:24 PM PST by I see my hands (How's that ballot box working out for you?)
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To: Fiji Hill

I’d Sioux ‘em.


14 posted on 11/15/2010 1:43:31 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Fiji Hill

The Left continuing to rub out any and all symbolic and honorary references to the American Indian.


15 posted on 11/15/2010 1:44:06 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: Fiji Hill

Sioux stupid!!!


17 posted on 11/15/2010 1:45:19 PM PST by sodpoodle (Despair; man's surrender. Laughter; God 's redemption.)
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To: Fiji Hill
Hey NCAA! Come get some.

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18 posted on 11/15/2010 1:45:36 PM PST by Sax
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To: xjcsa
Most of the time, if I post stuff like that and do a Google search on it, I find I'm the ONLY one in the world doing so.

It's good to have some backup ;-)

19 posted on 11/15/2010 1:45:51 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Fiji Hill

I’m so sick of the NCAA....they run college football like their very own fiefdom....they selectively punish and then they come out with crap like this....WHO CARES WHAT A TEAMS MASCOT IS!!!!


20 posted on 11/15/2010 1:45:57 PM PST by BamaDi ("The definition of a racist today is anyone who is winning an argument with a liberal.")
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To: albie
I am honestly amazed that the Cleveland Indians keep getting away with this. I'm almost a little offended by that.
21 posted on 11/15/2010 1:47:30 PM PST by DManA
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To: Fiji Hill

I interpret this to mean the Sioux are too weak to be seen as inspiring collegiate mascots.


22 posted on 11/15/2010 1:47:30 PM PST by Rebelbase (Palin/Christie 2012)
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To: jagusafr

“hey NCAA: how ‘bout checking out STFU?”

Better yet, get serious and find out how much Awburn paid Cam Newton for his services. As they’re starting to say down here in Alabama, “Cam Newton - the best QB that money can buy!”


23 posted on 11/15/2010 1:48:11 PM PST by BamaDi ("The definition of a racist today is anyone who is winning an argument with a liberal.")
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To: Fiji Hill

How about “Sioux your butt off”


24 posted on 11/15/2010 1:48:21 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Fiji Hill
Might I suggest the "Spineless Jellyfish" to be the perfectly appropriate new mascot for UND?
25 posted on 11/15/2010 1:48:31 PM PST by NorCoGOP (OBAMA: Living proof that hope is not a plan.)
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To: Fiji Hill

What bull. They should change their name to the Aborigines.


26 posted on 11/15/2010 1:48:34 PM PST by microgood
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To: Rebelbase

Remember, one of the tribes actually liked it.


27 posted on 11/15/2010 1:49:02 PM PST by DManA
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To: Fiji Hill

They should just assign all teams a number and eliminate names, and, of course, there will be no #1 team.


28 posted on 11/15/2010 1:49:31 PM PST by Doomonyou (Let them eat Lead.)
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To: Rebelbase

See my #5. “The Welfare-Recipient, Casino-Operating Sioux”?


29 posted on 11/15/2010 1:50:29 PM PST by Tax-chick (Cry me a river, build yourself a bridge, and GET OVER IT.)
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To: Fiji Hill
I took the liberty to redo their logo and name for them...


30 posted on 11/15/2010 1:51:03 PM PST by SparkyBass
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To: Fiji Hill

If we remove all these ‘nicknames’ from our school mascots, then the NCAA is removing all memory of American Indians, as free-spirited, family protective, strongly competitive human beings from the early educational years of our children.

What these children will be left with, as they turn adults, is only a memory of the Indians as being the guy at the gambling casino who takes their parents money.

Way to go, NCAA.


31 posted on 11/15/2010 1:53:43 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Fiji Hill

The entire country has been infested with Political Correctness for the last 50 years, tho I prefer to call it Pavlovian Conditioning.

These things are plain and simply idiotic and frankly none of the NCAA’s business. Also those stupid Indian tribes don’t understand that it is done to honor them.

Actually the Florida Seminole Tribe does understand.


32 posted on 11/15/2010 1:54:09 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Fiji Hill

Just change it to Fighting Sue. Worked out OK for Johnny Cash.


33 posted on 11/15/2010 1:54:45 PM PST by JPG (The GOP leadership is on probation. No second chances. Don't blow it.)
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To: Fiji Hill

“after the NCAA concluded the 80-year-old Fighting Sioux nickname was hostile and abusive. “

Well, I guess if you are a passel of politically correct weasely wussies, the “Fighting Sioux” WOULD seem “hostile” and “abusive”.

But were I a Sioux, or Lakota or Dakota or whatever you call that tribe, I would view an attribute like “fighting” as a positive one. After all, under such illustrious chiefs like Red Cloud, Sitting Bull, Crazy Horse, and others, they made an illustrious defense of their homelands, families and way of life. (As contrasted with modern day Americans and western Europeans when confronted with the threat of an insane predatory ideology called “Islam”).

Why, once upon a time, you could have even referred to the “Fighting Americans.”


34 posted on 11/15/2010 1:56:49 PM PST by ZULU (No nation which tried to tolerate Islam escaped Islamization.)
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To: Fiji Hill

So when’s the NCAA gonna jump down Illinois’ throat?


35 posted on 11/15/2010 1:57:42 PM PST by WKUHilltopper (Fix bayonets!)
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To: Fiji Hill

How ‘bout Fighting Sue


36 posted on 11/15/2010 1:57:47 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Gene Eric

In ancient times, it was a common practice to remove the names of unpopular kings by chiseling their names out of the stone of their monuments, or ‘obliterating’ them. In more recent times, various totalitarian regimes have done the same thing to those who ran afoul of the regime. I think that any self-respecting Sioux would be very concerned about his erasure from popular culture.


37 posted on 11/15/2010 1:57:57 PM PST by jmcenanly
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To: Fiji Hill

Hereafter the “Fighting Sioux” shall be known as the “Pigmented Prairie Pansies,” demonstrating that they are non-White, living in a natural environment, and peaceful in the extreme.


38 posted on 11/15/2010 1:58:19 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Fiji Hill

Will they be forced to change their name too?

39 posted on 11/15/2010 1:58:22 PM PST by dfwgator (Texas Rangers -Thanks for a great season.)
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To: Fiji Hill

NCAA.

I doubt whether those running the NCAA are even real Indians.
They don’t give a darn about the ‘feeling’s or ‘image’ of actual American Indians.

They care about one thing. The same thing Jesse Jackson cares about.

M O N E Y


40 posted on 11/15/2010 1:59:21 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Fiji Hill

That’s disgusting!!!!

Maybe they should change to the Leaping Lakota just to spite the NCAA!!!!


41 posted on 11/15/2010 1:59:26 PM PST by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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To: NorCoGOP
"Might I suggest the "Spineless Jellyfish" to be the perfectly appropriate new mascot for UND? "

UND have been fighting this for some time now. Maybe they got a new PC Prez and knuckled under?

"Funny, but ever since EMU’s Board of Regents foolishly voted to change the nickname to the Eagles, the football team, especially, has been grounded. One (1) winning season since ’91 – and that was just 6-5, in 1995. Eagles with clipped wings, apparently.

As I said, I’m not alone in my outrage. It’s been over 17 years, and I still can’t get past it. Other alumni, many others, feel the same way. Some of the more belligerent (and wealthy) ones have told the school that there will be no more donations forthcoming until EMU is once again known as the Hurons."

Adoption of much of the Indian warrior culture has helped to make America great. Not so much now, but B4.

42 posted on 11/15/2010 1:59:33 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Tax-chick
All these names came around for the same reason...to keep their history alive. I believe it was started by Roosevelt...maybe before that...

Per IIRC, Roosevelt: "If it wasn't for us, they would have killed themselves off a long time ago.

I had a lady friend, a very old and wise Seneca Indian...She says it was terrible; the children are not disciplined, most boys drink and are basically bums...AND THE GOOD ONES GO TO CANADA.

She was wonderful. Here name was Virginia Snow. She passed away a few yesrs ago.

43 posted on 11/15/2010 1:59:56 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Fiji Hill
Yeah, I can see how that has to be offensive to the pacifist tradition of the Sioux. And everybody knows their a bunch of lily-livered, panty-waist, push-overs, anyhow.

By the way, as a German-American, I am offended by the GD pinkos who send their kids to Hessian Hills School. It is a painful reminder of the many Germans (not all Hessians) who were used as cannon fodder in the Colonial Rebellion. I want them to change their name.
/sarc

44 posted on 11/15/2010 2:00:14 PM PST by Nevermore (...just a typical cracker, clinging to my Constitutional rights...)
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To: Fiji Hill

You also have the Big Sioux Truck Stop.


45 posted on 11/15/2010 2:00:16 PM PST by Sawdring
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To: Fiji Hill

Does this mean they will have to return all of the money that one guy donated to build a new hockey arena with the stipulation that the Fighting Sioux nickname be kept? And who will do the refunding, the school or the NCAA? And what about the 150 or so logos built into the arena?


46 posted on 11/15/2010 2:00:39 PM PST by gnickgnack2 (QUESTION obama's AUTHORITY)
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To: Fiji Hill

The school should change its mascot to the “Fighting 7th Cavalry”.


47 posted on 11/15/2010 2:01:24 PM PST by Miles the Slasher
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To: WKUHilltopper
So when’s the NCAA gonna jump down Illinois’ throat?

What about North and South DAKOTA?

The NCAA should force them to change their name.

48 posted on 11/15/2010 2:01:24 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: jmcenanly

>> In ancient times, it was a common practice to...

And the acts of the Taliban in recent times.


49 posted on 11/15/2010 2:01:24 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
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To: ZULU

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_Joseph


50 posted on 11/15/2010 2:02:05 PM PST by Paladin2
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