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Marines Defy the Washington-Political-Media Complex
The Daily Caller ^ | 11/15/2010 | John R. Guardiano

Posted on 11/16/2010 1:59:24 AM PST by John R. Guardiano

God bless Marine Corps Commandant Gen. James F. Amos. Despite incredible pressure from the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Secretary of Defense, and the entire Washington-political-media complex, Amos is courageously standing up for his Marines. The man refuses to buckle and bow to the pressure.

The Chairman, the Secretary of Defense and the political-media complex all want to bully the Marines into accepting open homosexuality within their ranks. They simply cannot fathom why anyone would object to this “enlightened — [and politically correct] — view.”

Of course, there are very good reasons — rooted in human nature, human psychology, human sexuality and group dynamics — to oppose openly gay service.

But no matter: the ruling class elites and the popular culture have decreed that only “homophobic” retrogrades oppose this “progressive” measure. And anyone who objects, they insist, must be forcibly removed from military service — or, at the very least, removed from positions of military leadership

Think I’m exaggerating? Think again. In yesterday’s Washington Post, for instance, long-time columnist Richard Cohen declared that Amos should be fired and replaced by a new commandant committed to effecting open homosexuality within the Corps.

“If and when the [“Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”] policy is changed,” Cohen writes, “President Obama ought to see to it that Amos is not tasked with implementing it. At the very top, the Marines need one good man.”

Well, so much for an educated and intellectually engaged military. So much for military leaders providing policymakers and the public with their best military advice and counsel. And so much for liberal tolerance of “dissenting points of view.”

For Cohen and the Left, dissent is only sanctioned when it is politically correct and in accordance with the “progressive” agenda.

I have news for Cohen and the far Left.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: amos; dontaskdonttell; homoagendaalert; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; marinecorps; marines; military; usmc

1 posted on 11/16/2010 1:59:30 AM PST by John R. Guardiano
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To: John R. Guardiano

Good work.
God bless the Marines.


2 posted on 11/16/2010 2:15:18 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

“rooted in human nature” How about human Creation. God created Adam and Eve; NOT Adam and Steve!


3 posted on 11/16/2010 2:23:27 AM PST by Colorado Cowgirl (God bless America!)
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To: John R. Guardiano

Maybe if the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the Secretary of Defense, and the entire Washington-political-media complex had something shoved up their azzes they understand why this “enlightened and politically correct view” is an insane idea.


4 posted on 11/16/2010 2:44:11 AM PST by maddog55 (OBAMA, You can't fix stupid...)
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To: John R. Guardiano

Homosexuality is a mental illness and the mentally ill have no place in the military.


5 posted on 11/16/2010 2:52:24 AM PST by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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To: CodeToad
Homosexuality is a mental illness and the mentally ill have no place in the militaryRight. And enlisted men deserve to have a place to sleep secure that they will not be molested in the dark. Officers have privacy, enlisted men don't.

In the Navy on shipboard at sea quarters are cramped, men are going on and comming off watch at night in the dark. The men deserve a good night's sleep.

6 posted on 11/16/2010 3:14:48 AM PST by tommix2
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To: John R. Guardiano; CodeToad; Colorado Cowgirl

The Lieberman Defense Authorization Act amendment provides the means to repeal U.S. Code Section 654 of Title 10 also known as “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell”. This amendment lacks merit in at least three areas. Repeal requires disregarding the First Amendment by legitimizing threats to confiscate the speech/expression and religious freedoms Chaplains and other service members. Homosexuality must also estrange itself from medicine and science in order to fabricate a discriminatory environment. Finally, arguments maintaining that open homosexuality will not hurt morale declaim the character of military operations.

Tens of millions of Jewish, Christian, and Muslim believers see their First Amendment rights vanishing with repeal. For many followers of desert religions, who send their pastors into the chaplaincy and their believers into military service, homosexual behavior is unacceptable. Instead it resides among the myriad sins entrapping humanity that lives in a fallen world.

For them foundational scholarship concludes homosexual relationships separate believers from God. The Old Testament, holy to “People of the Book”, speaks of the character, identity, and purpose of God in a manner, which continuously addresses homosexuality. God is identified as masculine, and all humans become feminine in relation to Him. In addition to creating all things, God created the single institution of heterosexual marriage as the earthy manifestation for the relationship of absolute unity and love He seeks with each person.

Classical Semitic theology emphasizes searching for and identifying with God in the spiritual dimension. Worthy actions and thoughts become those finding pleasure by reinforcing the faith commitment to this spiritual relationship. For Jewish, Christian, and Muslim believers any subsequent reasoning from scriptures must derive from that basic understanding. Therefore after repeal, when believers reject homosexual behavior in counseling rolls and normal life activities, these people reside outside Constitutional boundaries guaranteeing First Amendment freedoms to become guilty by popular acclamation of at least cultural prejudice, if not criminal behavior.

Advocates for repeal seek foundational credibility in the 1973 American Psychiatric Association decision (APA) to remove homosexuality as a mental disorder from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM). Removal followed a two year campaign Newsweek described as ongoing disruptive, chaotic attacks on psychiatrists and physiologists. Yet throughout these disruptive attacks, no academic papers arose at conferences refuting any research previously done. Eventually onslaughts forced sufficient abstentions, under-votes, and apprehensive responses for a third of APA’s 17,000 plus membership to approve removal.

Next activists targeted leading individual researchers such as Dr. David Reuben to ensure perpetual sanctity for the APA action. No research papers would again arise to confirm initial therapy success rates of 30% to 60 %, substantiating that 7 of 10 homosexuals could eventually walk away from the lifestyle. Persistent activism over 37 years enabled ubiquitous infiltration of academia ensuring pre-ordained theses, approved flexibility in research designs, suitable human data points, and enchanting statistical enhancements.

Psychology and Psychiatry chose to relinquish scientific rigor for popular societal and political acclaim. With studies concerning homosexuality freed from objective analysis, advocates for social justice rely upon base antidotal politics to dominate debates.

My Representative, Peter DeFazio, presents a classic argument in favor of repeal, which betrays a basic misunderstanding of the essence of military service. He says, “The private, legal sexual conduct of military personnel off duty and off base, whether homosexual or heterosexual, should not be of interest to the Pentagon leadership. The bottom line is that an individual’s performance in uniform is what should count. Sexual contact on base is already governed by the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) - the judicial code that all military personnel are subject to”.

The current law recognizes maintaining high morale, good order and discipline, and unit cohesion requires extraordinary restrictions for environments characterized by sacrificial, primitive and intimate relations. Military operations are not conducted in garrison, and offer no opportunities for off duty or private time. Operating military personnel, locked in small task oriented units, forward deploy, and repeatedly face incredible stress if not actual combat. These environments are inherently chaotic and brittle, and can only be overcome by totalitarian leadership unimaginable in pacific situations.

The DOD can study this subject without legislation. These critical issues should not be subservient to any administrative plan to redefine military service using humanist social justice guidelines to fabricate an attachment to our Constitution and to dissemble concerning military operations. The primary issues to consider should be Constitutional speech and religious freedoms, and whether any mental disorders can be tolerated within the exceptional human structures needed to defeat enemies unconcerned with social alchemy. Such issues should be separately addressed, and the bill should be filibustered and rejected.


7 posted on 11/16/2010 3:17:45 AM PST by Retain Mike
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To: John R. Guardiano
That’s why, in the name of diversity, I’ve urged policymakers and Congress to exempt the Marines from any attempt to repeal “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.” Give traditionalists at least one military service, the Marine Corps, that shares their values and traditions. And, if you must, give so-called progressives the other four military services to affirm their values and traditions.

In this way, everyone wins; no one loses; and we can witness a healthy and instructive competition about whose values and traditions are better, more compelling, and more efficacious.

Don't even go that far! An "experiment" like that would lead Barney & the Boys down in DC to try to 'defund' any project closely identified with the US Marines. The Marines would be left with only knives & entrenching tools or they'd get folded into the Army.

8 posted on 11/16/2010 3:26:22 AM PST by Tallguy (The Dude abides.)
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To: maddog55
why this “enlightened and politically correct view” is an insane idea.

A man enlists expecting his shipmates will be straight. then if they change the rules he is stuck until he finishes his hitch. It is not right to the enlisted men, and they are not going to reenlist. And homosexuals in authority promote other homosexuals. Forget about a career in the military if this goes into effect.

9 posted on 11/16/2010 3:43:45 AM PST by tommix2
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To: John R. Guardiano



10 posted on 11/16/2010 3:48:10 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: John R. Guardiano
For Cohen and the Left, dissent is only sanctioned when it is politically correct and in accordance with the “progressive” agenda.

For Cohen and the Left, dissent is only sanctioned when it lacks common sense and is in accordance with "force fitting" the populace into their warped concept of a perfect society.

Male and female human genitalia are designed for union and procreation. That fact is indisputable. The genital organs are the source of intense pleasure for self gratification or perverse use that increases the risk of STDs, AIDS, and many other life threatening and shortening diseases, psychological damage, and mental health disruption. While male-male and female-female sexual gratification provide for unnatural union, they fail to provide for procreation. These sick people place sexual pleasure at the top of the list of what is important in life. That is clearly wrong.

The evil homosexual community, like Democrats and other Marxists, are simply attempting to force all of us into accepting their warped, twisted, and evil concept of a "perfect" society. It has never worked.

11 posted on 11/16/2010 3:51:21 AM PST by olezip
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To: John R. Guardiano; RaceBannon; freema; dcwusmc
God bless our Commandant ping.


12 posted on 11/16/2010 4:09:43 AM PST by Semper Mark (Vlad Tepes was a piker.)
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To: John R. Guardiano

So this whiny little liberal Richard Cohen purports to threaten the Commandant of the Marine Corps with loss of career.

The Marine Corps tradition of courage under fire includes but is not limited to Tarawa, Guadalcanal, Saipan, Iwo Jima, and Okinawa. And then this little creep come along and talks of damaging a Marine’s future!!?

IMO, if General Amos approached Cohen just to shake his hand, the latter would probably faint dead away.

“God bless the Marines!”


13 posted on 11/16/2010 4:15:08 AM PST by elcid1970 ("O Muslim! My bullets are dipped in pig grease!")
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To: skimask

ping


14 posted on 11/16/2010 4:28:10 AM PST by Semper Mark (Vlad Tepes was a piker.)
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To: CodeToad
Didn't a fag JUST sell us out to Wikileaks because he was pissed off at his fag lover? Stupid is a Democrat....
15 posted on 11/16/2010 4:48:04 AM PST by rightwingextremist1776
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To: rightwingextremist1776

Talk about human nature. How about that the anus was designed for exit not entrance. Why is this an issue with these homos? Their lifestlye is not healthy.


16 posted on 11/16/2010 5:26:30 AM PST by eternity (I like IKE)
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To: SkyPilot

My son had his picture taken with Robert Gates at Fort Benning. You would think that it would be something that you would want to display...I can’t stand looking at him.


17 posted on 11/16/2010 6:07:21 AM PST by panthermom
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To: Markos33

Gunny!


18 posted on 11/16/2010 6:28:39 AM PST by steve8714 (Never again should free men be asked to fight for those without the courage to turn them loose.)
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To: John R. Guardiano

I will comment from my personal perspective. My son is 19 and in the infantry.

They are young, adrenal junkies, basically hard core, thick skinned with too much testosterone! You will find most of them were jocks or outdoors type growing up. Yes, they are trained to be very disciplined but they still think farting is funny, they play dead leg or made ya look, they look for reasons to punch each other, they call each other obnoxious names and are merciless. And whether anyone likes it or not Gay and Faggot are part of their vocabulary. Their mentality is not conducive to be politically correct.


19 posted on 11/16/2010 6:33:11 AM PST by panthermom
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To: John R. Guardiano

The enemy of my Country and our way of life are getting nervous. The Marines are acting,and speaking like Marines ought.And when the white mice in the Pentagon toss crap in the fan directed at the Marines the Marines stand tall and have not quit. Col.Ronald D.Ray USMC Retired ,I believe once suggested that it would be the Marines that would restore American principles and our way of life. Perhaps NOW would be a good time for America to stand with the USMC, and Mr.Amos.


20 posted on 11/16/2010 6:36:27 AM PST by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: John R. Guardiano

21 posted on 11/16/2010 6:40:58 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (Sarah Palin....The Thrilla from Wasilla)
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To: John R. Guardiano

This policy would be especially egregious in the military. These men are told who they must live with. They have no choice. They need to focus on their jobs, and not worry about their real or potential roommates.

If two homos want to live together, that’s between them and their God. However, how many American citizens would be willing to open their bedrooms up to a homosexual roommate?

Furthermore, the gays are using this issue to make less outrageous demands seem reasonable.

The camel’s nose is already under the tent. We not only must ensure the camel stays out of the tent, we need to get a big sledge hammer and hit that big ugly beast on the nose!


22 posted on 11/16/2010 6:43:07 AM PST by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: StonyBurk
Mr.(sic)Amos

That's General Amos

23 posted on 11/16/2010 7:00:29 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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Cohen looks like he's smoked a few poles and been driven on the hershey highway himself.

24 posted on 11/16/2010 7:04:17 AM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Pour a pile of sh%t on this loser. But wait he would probably enjoy it.


25 posted on 11/16/2010 7:32:09 AM PST by eternity (I like IKE)
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To: John R. Guardiano

This is a very excellent article. It zeros in on the reasons for the horrendous nature of this liberal push to reorder society.


26 posted on 11/16/2010 8:15:32 AM PST by fwdude (Anita Bryant was right.)
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To: CodeToad; All

“Homosexuality is a mental illness and the mentally ill have no place in the military.”

Practicing homosexuals don’t belong in the military. If the person’s disorder or immoral conduct disrupts, which it does, they do not belong. In fact open homosexuals will never properly belong in uniform. If for no other reason than the conduct is abhorent and just plain wrong.

However, be careful about linking homosexuality to mental illness and then making the illogical jump that “the mentally ill have no place in the military” There are literally ten to hundreds of thousands of military personnel that suffer from depression and anxiety that receive medical treatment (medications) and serve honorably without problem because of the treatment. Do these no longer belong? Many are the result of PTSD from serving in combat.....do you think those service member’s with a mental illness problem like PTSD should be booted?

My point is don’t make generalities and don’t link homosexuality with a treatable mental illness. Homosexuality is a class all by itself.....rightfully attack that...don’t link it to easily treatable mental problems.


27 posted on 11/16/2010 9:03:57 AM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Tallguy
In this way, everyone wins; no one loses; and we can witness a healthy and instructive competition about whose values and traditions are better, more compelling, and more efficacious.

Phooey.

The results are in from other, foreign services already -- like the Dutch.

It doesn't "work" ...... besides being morally repugnant and offensive to the very people you want in the service.

My advice to other conservatives on this issue would be to play for keeps, accept no compromise at all, and if we wind up with a defense structure that contains only "progressives", then the sooner we can get it on for all the marbles, when the neo-Stalinists turn on us to wipe us off the map.

Assuming other nations don't jump us with nuclear weapons first and turn the "blue" counties into smoldering memories.

28 posted on 11/16/2010 3:00:41 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Sola Veritas
...be careful about linking homosexuality to mental illness ....

The trouble is, it truly is one -- it's a paraphilia. Homosexual political activists got it purged from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual by political coup in 1972-3, but it properly belongs there still.

Any mental disorder that is susceptible of treatment can be disabling for a person in the military. My own father developed Jacksonian (grand mal) epilepsy in the service but was able to continue in the service, albeit not as a flying officer. Other service personnel might not be so fortunate, and we have to recognize that.

Some homosexuals might be treatable -- Irving Bieber was looking into that possibility when the homosexual cabal shut down his research; he had already published a longitudinal study that suggested that about a third of homosexual men are "essentially" or biologically homosexual and not treatable by psychotherapy. The rest might be treatable in some fashion, to some result, many having been heterosexual boys who were sexualized -- "queered" -- by pederasts while still young.

29 posted on 11/16/2010 3:09:34 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: A.A. Cunningham
Cohen could at least drag a comb across his head for the camera, and not go around looking like he just fell out of bed. Sorry POS.
30 posted on 11/16/2010 3:17:45 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: Retain Mike
Finally, arguments maintaining that open homosexuality will not hurt morale declaim the character of military operations.

Did you mean "disparage"? Or maybe "mischaracterize"?

31 posted on 11/16/2010 3:23:28 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

Good point. That word does not convey the idea that the rhetoric employed is necessarily deceptive in character.


32 posted on 11/16/2010 5:07:34 PM PST by Retain Mike
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To: Markos33

R.Lee Ermey scares the crap out of me!


33 posted on 11/19/2010 10:48:10 AM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it.)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Why must so many of my fellow Jews be liberals?


34 posted on 11/19/2010 10:50:09 AM PST by POWERSBOOTHEFAN (Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it.)
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To: John R. Guardiano

Lets see. Marines can withstand combat (noise, fire, seeing their buddies blown away, etc.) without becoming careless or distracted to the point that they lose their limbs. But if they know the guy next to them blowing away the enemy is gay, they can`t handle it and become so distracted that they will lose limbs. Does`nt make sense.


35 posted on 12/15/2010 5:36:10 PM PST by chessplayer
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