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Murkowski Pulls Ahead in Vote Count As Division of Elections Ignores Law
Conservatives4Congress.com ^ | 11/16/2010 | Nicole Coulter

Posted on 11/16/2010 2:56:45 PM PST by Qbert

Princess Lisa now leads by about 1,700 votes after Monday's review. There are still about 8,000 write-in ballots and 600 absentees to be counted. It's not looking good given that the Division of Elections is counting 97% of the write-ins for Murkowski, despite the fact that thousands of the ballots do not spell her name correctly, a requirement in the actual law.

Via the Anchorage Daily News:

The Division of Elections has now counted 92,164 votes for Murkowski and 90,458 for Miller. Murkowski's number will grow as the state continues to go through write-in ballots today, looking to see what name voters wrote on them.

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"It's hard for me to figure that they would be able to look at these numbers and come up with any reasonable move other than facing the fact that Lisa Murkowski won the election," Sweeney said.

The Miller campaign insists that's not the case. Miller spokesman Randy DeSoto said he still thinks the court challenge could get enough votes thrown out for Miller to win.

The review of write-in ballots began last Wednesday and should essentially finish in the next day or so. The Murkowski campaign's numbers show another 10,000 write-ins remain to be counted. It predicts that Murkowski is going to end up with a total exceeding 100,000 votes given the trend of the count.

That could give Murkowski a lead over Miller in the 10,000-vote range once the counting is over.

Miller ballot observers so far have challenged 7,601 of the votes the state has counted for Murkowski. Miller has filed a lawsuit asking the federal courts to throw out the challenged ballots that are misspelled or otherwise not written perfectly.

But some of the ballots that Miller observers challenged were clearly spelled right and looked to be filled in correctly. So it's likely that not all the challenged ballots would be tossed, even if Miller ended up winning the lawsuit.

Miller spokesman DeSoto, though, said the race is still in play. He said he believes Miller and Murkowski will end up with about the same total of votes, if you subtract the votes Miller challenged but the Division of Elections counted.

Miller argues that state law doesn't allow misspelled votes. But the state and the Murkowski campaign say Alaska courts have indicated in the past that if "voter intent" can be determined from the ballot -- such as if a slight misspelling still produced a name that sounded like "Murkowski" -- that should be the standard.

Miller has said he would drop the fight if it was obvious he couldn't win. But his campaign said Monday that time hasn't arrived.

"At the end of six days of ballot counting, the race between Joe Miller and Lisa Murkowski is still very close," DeSoto said.



TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Alaska
KEYWORDS: ak; joemiller; murkowski; teaparty
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1 posted on 11/16/2010 2:56:52 PM PST by Qbert
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To: Qbert

How many overseas military ballots have yet to be counted?


2 posted on 11/16/2010 3:00:03 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 665 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: Qbert
I never thought there could be a woman more politically displeasing than Hillary....

I now know better.

3 posted on 11/16/2010 3:01:02 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Qbert

Lisa Murkowski may become an usurper of a Senator.

I hope Joe Miller drags her through another month of recounts, wear her down mentally. The liberal left of Alaska thinks it has more power than the rest of the state.

I cannot predict the future but I suspect some very tense times in the near future.


4 posted on 11/16/2010 3:01:18 PM PST by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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To: Qbert

I would say the lesson learned in Alaska is if you are unhappy with Senator Lisa...it’s best to avoid the Republican primary and vote long and hard for the Democrat running. I’d give up on the state mechanism working and just settle for the lesser of evils.


5 posted on 11/16/2010 3:01:55 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: null and void

At this point let em have her. She will not get any earmarks to pay off her moocher voters. Ha! Welchkowski. They will turn on her like Lampreys with no fish around.


6 posted on 11/16/2010 3:03:33 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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To: Qbert
It's not looking good given that the Division of Elections is counting 97% of the write-ins for Murkowski, despite the fact that thousands of the ballots do not spell her name correctly, a requirement in the actual law.

We have a continuation of the corrupt behavior in connection with the results of the Republican primary. The Republicans are no better than the Democrats when it comes to obeying the law. Laws are for the little people not the elite Republicans or Democrats. Disgusting!

We have a country built on "guidelines" not laws, whether it be immigration laws, primary results, or counting write-in ballots. Where is our country headed?

7 posted on 11/16/2010 3:04:36 PM PST by olezip
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To: Qbert

cheating.


8 posted on 11/16/2010 3:04:39 PM PST by dalebert
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To: Qbert

the ruling class doesn’t care about the law, when the law gets in the way of their continuing to rule us.


9 posted on 11/16/2010 3:08:15 PM PST by Daveinyork
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To: Qbert

The vote counters must be getting writer’s cramp.


10 posted on 11/16/2010 3:10:07 PM PST by InternetTuffGuy
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To: dalebert

Might be fun to do a little kick to Lisa next go round. We run one of “ours” for the Democrat nomination and let Little Lisa have the Republican nomination. Come general election time, everyone votes for the Dem, (we do and those clowns who vote for anyone with a “D” after their name), and he/she wins and Lisa’s out in the cold. Our candidate immediately switches parties. Would love to see Little Lisa’s hissy fit.


11 posted on 11/16/2010 3:10:57 PM PST by Right Cal Gal (Ronald Reagan: "our liberal friends....know so much that isn't so...")
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To: Qbert
But the state and the Murkowski campaign say Alaska courts have indicated in the past that if "voter intent" can be determined from the ballot -- such as if a slight misspelling still produced a name that sounded like "Murkowski" -- that should be the standard.

Oh really, Cow? Then why did you put so much effort into having a list of write-ins available or having your voters wear wrist bands with your name spelled on it correctly?

12 posted on 11/16/2010 3:11:22 PM PST by Shethink13
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To: pepsionice

As Alaskans re-elect a liberal Republican promising pork, the losers will be them. Because there will be more federal strings attached and a further erosion of state sovereignty. The new energy projects that Palin ushered in will get killed while the crony capitalism among the oil companies and politicians will start over.


13 posted on 11/16/2010 3:11:22 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (The Republic of the United States of America)
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To: Eye of Unk
What I would really love to see: (caution, this would require Republicans equipped with “things”, and I don't know how many we have)

Obviously she can chose either side to caucus with, and will probably try to set off a bidding war on her “loyalty.” Since the Dems want her as insurance for keeping control, they'd probably offer something. You would expect the Republicans to offer her something, hoping that a couple of defections might occur and give them control.

I wish that before this “process” even begins, the Republicans would simply say, “no thanks, we don't want you.” And do it publicly. Now, knowing that the Republicans don't want her, the Dems have no reason to offer her anything. Leave her with no choice committee assignments, the chairperson of nothing, a complete nobody.

Fitting poetic justice for her and the idiots that elected her.

14 posted on 11/16/2010 3:12:18 PM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: Qbert

Very sad when a person stoops to the level Lisa Murjowski has.


15 posted on 11/16/2010 3:16:16 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Qbert

Challenge every vote, even if that Oval is not filled in 100% completely.


16 posted on 11/16/2010 3:16:55 PM PST by trumandogz
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To: I cannot think of a name

Good thoughts; except she has no loyality. She is a nothing and everyone knows it.


17 posted on 11/16/2010 3:17:44 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: trumandogz

“Challenge every vote, even if that Oval is not filled in 100% completely.”

Good point.


18 posted on 11/16/2010 3:18:35 PM PST by Qbert
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To: olezip

“We have a country built on “guidelines” not laws, whether it be immigration laws, primary results, or counting write-in ballots. Where is our country headed?”

The result of political correctness and moral relativism, and a people who are so spiritually weak they can see their own destruction.


19 posted on 11/16/2010 3:21:18 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Qbert

It looks like the fat lady is not going to sing any time soon. Probably going to be a long court battle?


20 posted on 11/16/2010 3:21:19 PM PST by golf lover
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To: Qbert

It just shows how desperately congress critters cling to their position. It’s a matter of life and death to them. Nothing else matters.

Term limits is the answer to relieve them of their agony.


21 posted on 11/16/2010 3:22:56 PM PST by 353FMG (In the end, it will be either ISLAM or America -- it cannot be both.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Like I said this may just start a totally new form of domestic cold war, conservatives throwing debris in front of a useless state Senator. The best part of course will be the years of open animosity from literally both sides of the Senate.

She cannot even be a decent Independent. She will be the crow in a flock of seagulls.


22 posted on 11/16/2010 3:23:36 PM PST by Eye of Unk (If your enemy is quick to anger, seek to irritate him. Sun Tzu, The Art of War.)
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To: Qbert

If the law states the name must be spelled correctly, then she loses. Courts have to uphold the law right? Or is that just crazy thinking on my part?


23 posted on 11/16/2010 3:23:36 PM PST by coon2000 (Give me Liberty or give me death!)
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To: Qbert
Miller has filed a lawsuit asking the federal courts to throw out the challenged ballots that are misspelled or otherwise not written perfectly.

I say, even if the federal courts deny Miller's request, go all the way to SCOTUS. W did in 2000. The contested votes were from the state of Florida. Alaska is saying that Miller can't override the state and go to the feds for a ruling. W already proved you can in 2000 with Florida.

I say go for it Joe. All the way to SCOTUS if necessary.

24 posted on 11/16/2010 3:24:36 PM PST by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: Qbert
This effects the nation beyond the states. This should go up to the Supremes.

Two issues. I think they should only allow exact spelling of names. This (close enough) stuff to count every vote no matter how they failed to vote correctly is bull.

Second, if they want so badly to count every vote, why can't Miller have counted those who voted for him by writing in? How can they negate his write in votes and allowed Murks to be all these variations of close enough?

I want constancy everywhere.

25 posted on 11/16/2010 3:25:53 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: ViLaLuz

Right where the majority of people want it to. Everyone of the thieving , librtyrobbing sobs in office were put there by a majority vote. It is the sorry ass people’s fault, not the politican’s. The politicians are only taking advantage of a situation.


26 posted on 11/16/2010 3:26:27 PM PST by sport
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The fault of this is entirely at the feet of the effetes of the GOP leadership.

Steele must go.

Lisa Murky would not have done this without GOP blessings.


27 posted on 11/16/2010 3:28:13 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Evil Slayer
I say, even if the federal courts deny Miller's request, go all the way to SCOTUS. W did in 2000. The contested votes were from the state of Florida. Alaska is saying that Miller can't override the state and go to the feds for a ruling. W already proved you can in 2000 with Florida. I say go for it Joe. All the way to SCOTUS if necessary.

Unlike in a Presidential election, SCOTUS is not the final answer here. Under the Constitution, the Senate is the final judge of the elections of its own members. (Article I, section 5, clause 1). So whoever loses in court can appeal to the full Senate.

28 posted on 11/16/2010 3:30:44 PM PST by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: longtermmemmory

Joe Miller ran a great primary campaign, and a horrible general election campaign.

He had this in the bag, and lost it, through his own mistakes.


29 posted on 11/16/2010 3:31:21 PM PST by nbenyo
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To: Shethink13

Why would she pass out wristbands with her name spelled incorrectly? This is the type of whining that AlGore and the Dems have perfected. We should be better than trying to rely on chickenspit nitpicking.


30 posted on 11/16/2010 3:33:23 PM PST by DryFly
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To: longtermmemmory

Now you know why they did not take her committee positions.

I was going to, in fact, I did use it and then went back and changed it, use the word “strip”. But then I thought, “use strip in conjunction with Lisa?”. The image of that was more than I could handle.


31 posted on 11/16/2010 3:34:36 PM PST by sport
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To: Qbert

If the law requires the spelling to be correct, then sue the Elections board. Sue them for breaking the law.


32 posted on 11/16/2010 3:37:08 PM PST by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Qbert
But some of the ballots that Miller observers challenged were clearly spelled right and looked to be filled in correctly.

Simple. Has it occurred to the review committee that there were several that were absolutely identical handwriting? I bet there are some good lawyers on Joe's team that have already proven this through handwriting analysis.

Now, of course, the dems wouldn't allow someone writing in princess lisa's name multiple times. /sar

33 posted on 11/16/2010 3:40:02 PM PST by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: null and void

How many overseas military ballots have yet to be counted?


From the last line of the posted article [you have to click the link to see entire article].......

Only about 600 absentee ballots remain to be counted later this week from military and overseas addresses, according to the Division of Elections.

Read more: http://www.adn.com/2010/11/15/1555926/murkowski-passes-miller-in-vote.html#ixzz15UUyHGDi


34 posted on 11/16/2010 3:41:01 PM PST by deport
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To: DryFly
Why would she pass out wristbands with her name spelled incorrectly? This is the type of whining that AlGore and the Dems have perfected. We should be better than trying to rely on chickenspit nitpicking.

Point being (since you appear to be a little slow on the uptake) is that she KNEW that the law required the spelling to be correct on the write-ins, and now wants to change the rules when it doesn't suit her.

You're just plain wrong. The Dems have perfected the art of changing the rules mid-game if things don't go their way. The whole crux of conservatism is to stick to the rules and laws as written - we've never strayed from that principle.

35 posted on 11/16/2010 3:41:56 PM PST by Shethink13
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To: deport

Thanks!


36 posted on 11/16/2010 3:42:04 PM PST by null and void (We are now in day 665 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
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To: A CA Guy

Have we ever heard about a significant number of Joe Miller write-in ballots ?


37 posted on 11/16/2010 3:42:55 PM PST by Kellis91789 (There's a reason the mascot of the Democratic Party is a jackass.)
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To: Qbert
The Minnesota election all over again.

We are seeing our Republic being destroyed right before our eyes.

I'll bet that fewer than 25 percent of Americans even realize that it is happening. They will wake up one day and be surprised out of their freedoms.

38 posted on 11/16/2010 3:45:05 PM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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Miller spokesman Randy DeSoto said he still thinks the court challenge could get enough votes thrown out for Miller to win.

Challenge every damn one! GOP had better step up here.

Hear me Cornyn? Legal docs have to have every i dotted and t crossed so how is this any different?

39 posted on 11/16/2010 3:47:38 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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To: Evil Slayer

Why should SCOTUS hear it? They’ll just say it’s Alaska’s business, how it wants to apply the law its legislature wrote.


40 posted on 11/16/2010 3:49:50 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Starve the beast. Save the liver!)
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To: null and void

Unfortunately I have not been able to find that information anywhere. But, I do know that they will be counted tommorrow, the 17th. Also, Murkowski does NOT lead Miller.

Miller has 90,458 undisputed votes, Murkowski has 84,563, undisputed votes, plus 7,601 challenged ballots that were counted anyway, and 1,869 that were challenged and not counted. If you subtract that 1,869 she’s down about 180 votes. And we have no idea what’s going to happen with the challenged and counted votes which was done based on ‘intent’ rather than the Alaska law, nor do we know anything about the overseas and military ballots.

We can only speculate. I believe it is because of the Primary results in which Murkowski only got 3.2% or so of absentee ballots to Miller’s 13.5% that the Murkowski machine in the gov decided to look for ‘intent’ because they believe that Miller will get a lot more votes from the Military and since her name wasn’t on that ballot she probably won’t get many, if any at all! I also believe that this is the ‘reason’ behind the early count. This count was not supposed to start until 8 days after it did, that meant that the military ballots would have been in already since the count began on the 9th and 8 days means the 17th would have been the starting date, the date Military ballots and overseas ballots are due back!

This whole process has been Frustrating since no information is available on total military/overseas ballots sent out!


41 posted on 11/16/2010 3:49:52 PM PST by Ruth C
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Does Murky take the same drugs as Palousie?

Those eyes......aaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy!


42 posted on 11/16/2010 3:49:55 PM PST by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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To: golf lover

It looks like the fat lady is not going to sing any time soon. Probably going to be a long court battle?


It could be carried on a long time if Miller can get it into a court that will hear the case or depending on how the ‘challenged and counted’ votes for Murkowski are handled. There currently are over 7,000 of ‘challenged and counted’ for Murkowski.


43 posted on 11/16/2010 3:51:38 PM PST by deport
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To: Qbert

When we used to count the absentee ballots, we always had to count each name separately. For instance Lisa Murkowski is not considered the same person as Lisa J (or whatever) Murkowski. Even though you know they mean the same person, it counts as two different people! That’s why write in candidates always hand out cards and specifically show HOW to write in their name.


44 posted on 11/16/2010 3:54:10 PM PST by Cricket24 (Proud to be a CONSERVATIVE WOMAN!!!!!!!)
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To: Shethink13

Whiners and crybabies. It was Miller’s race to lose, and he did a terrific job at doing so.


45 posted on 11/16/2010 3:55:12 PM PST by DryFly
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To: Qbert
... a requirement in the actual law ...

Laws are for the little people.

46 posted on 11/16/2010 3:56:15 PM PST by kennedy (I am a Kennedy. Where do I go to claim my Senate seat?)
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To: Ruth C
This whole process has been Frustrating since no information is available on total military/overseas ballots sent out!


You are correct that information on the entire process has been hard to come by. I know the Divisions of Elections knows the number but like you I've not been able to find it anywhere. They certified to the Feds that they would meet the deadline of Sept 18, 2010 for the mailing of the UOCAVA ballots when they were asking to be removed from the lawsuit brought on by the Feds.

47 posted on 11/16/2010 3:58:13 PM PST by deport
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To: Ruth C
Miller has 90,458 undisputed votes, Murkowski has 84,563, undisputed votes, plus 7,601 challenged ballots that were counted anyway, and 1,869 that were challenged and not counted. If you subtract that 1,869 she’s down about 180 votes.

I hope you are right and Joe's lawyers really jump on top of this.

48 posted on 11/16/2010 4:00:03 PM PST by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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To: Don Corleone

“The Minnesota election all over again.”

Irony: IIRC, Murkowski’s attorney Ben Ginsberg represented Norm Coleman in that election. He didn’t do a very good job (obviously).

I say fight to the bitter end, Joe...


49 posted on 11/16/2010 4:01:15 PM PST by Qbert
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To: DryFly
Whiners and crybabies. It was Miller’s race to lose, and he did a terrific job at doing so.

Almost gave in to the temptation I have avoided for 12 years on Free Republic.

But, my record remains unblemished. We will let your comments stand in comparison to mine and let others be the judge.

50 posted on 11/16/2010 4:04:11 PM PST by Shethink13
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