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What caused Mitt's defeat? Projects look at key factors. [Romney = abortionist/statist RINO]
The Deseret News ^ | November 14, 2010 | Trent Toone

Posted on 11/16/2010 3:09:32 PM PST by KateUTWS

PROVO – Did unreported factors contribute to the demise of Mitt Romney's 2008 presidential campaign?

How did the news media cover the 1967-68 presidential campaign of his father, George Romney?

Two research projects presented to an audience of more than 100 people at BYU's Mormon Media Studies Symposium recently compared the two Romneys' campaigns.

BYU professors John Gee and Louis C. Midgley titled their paper, "Under the Media's Nose: Overlooked Factors Undermining the Presidential Campaign of Mitt Romney.

(Excerpt) Read more at deseretnews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: backstabberromney; byu; lds; munchhausenbyproxy; rinobackstabber; rinoblamer; rinoblamesothers; rinomney; romney; romney4obama; romney4obamacare; romneybigdig; romneycare; romneydirtytricks; romneymarriage; soreloserromney
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1 posted on 11/16/2010 3:09:35 PM PST by KateUTWS
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To: KateUTWS

#1 factor. He’s a flip flopper of the kind not seen since John Kerry


2 posted on 11/16/2010 3:12:03 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: KateUTWS

1. He’s not a conservative.

List finished.


3 posted on 11/16/2010 3:13:41 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: KateUTWS

I don’t really care what caused his political demise. He would have been worse then McCain...and that’s saying something.


4 posted on 11/16/2010 3:13:44 PM PST by Artemis Webb (I support Nancy Pelosi for Minority Leader!!!)
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To: KateUTWS
What caused Mitt's defeat?

Mitt

5 posted on 11/16/2010 3:13:50 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Moderates manipulate, extremists use violence, but the goal is the same.)
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To: KateUTWS

I think it was the “sacred underwear”.


6 posted on 11/16/2010 3:14:51 PM PST by golf lover
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To: KateUTWS

It goes back to this:
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,941126,00.html

George Romney: “When I came back from Viet Nam, I had just had the greatest brainwashing that anybody can get when you go over to Viet Nam.”


7 posted on 11/16/2010 3:17:13 PM PST by ari-freedom (Islam is at war against America, while America is at the mall.)
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To: KateUTWS

Good grief. It’s clear that Romney’s Mormon faith played a role, but to blame it on “evangelicals” overlooks the fact that (i) he’s a RINO, and (ii) some Repubs probably realized that the secular left and mainstream media would absolutely crucify him for his faith if he was the nominee against their sainted Obama. Every LDS I’ve ever know has been righteous - it isn’t “fair” that his faith plays a role, but to blame it on evangelical Christians is a joke. And this comes from someone who isn’t one.


8 posted on 11/16/2010 3:17:13 PM PST by rockvillem
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To: pissant

Hell at least McCain had a few core beliefs (granted not many). Romney is the worst example of the cynical man’s definition of a “politician” I can think of. He’ll say anything to any group to get elected.


9 posted on 11/16/2010 3:17:26 PM PST by Artemis Webb (I support Nancy Pelosi for Minority Leader!!!)
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To: KateUTWS

Well, I think the fact that Romney supported abortion, gay marriage, and government healthcare while he was governor of Massachusetts, and then proceeded to lie about it, might have something to do with it.

I think his Mormon religion probably did turn off a lot of Evangelicals, which added to his problems. Romney himself never stopped talking about it, which certainly didn’t help him.

But, frankly, he is NOT a good Mormon, either, if Mormons are pro-life and pro-family, which on the whole they are. Not as bad as Harry Reid, who should be an abomination to Mormons, but trending in that direction.


10 posted on 11/16/2010 3:17:35 PM PST by Cicero
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To: KateUTWS

He’s not a person who tells the truth. And he used to post here under Mitt Romney.

So he probley still lurks around.


11 posted on 11/16/2010 3:18:01 PM PST by stockpirate ("......When the government fears the people you have liberty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: KateUTWS

Romney was the key factor to his defeat. The same will be true if he runs again.

Those that ignore the will of the conservative voter...... will likewise lose.

The American patriots will refuse any candidate picked by the MSM and the RINOs...... such as Rove and his ilk.


12 posted on 11/16/2010 3:18:27 PM PST by Gator113 ("Don't touch my junk......")
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To: KateUTWS

“Now Mr. Romney, you have thirty seconds to rebut... yourself!”


13 posted on 11/16/2010 3:19:11 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: rockvillem

His liberal Governorship of Massachusetts and Romneycare.

Any Republican that can be elected in Massachusetts isnt much of a Republican.


14 posted on 11/16/2010 3:19:16 PM PST by Venturer
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To: KateUTWS

To me the bottom line is that very few people genuinely trust Mitt Romney.


15 posted on 11/16/2010 3:21:55 PM PST by rogue yam
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To: KateUTWS

#1 He ran in the wrong party.


16 posted on 11/16/2010 3:21:58 PM PST by Ingtar (If Washington and his peers had been RINOs, we would still be a British colony.)
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To: Cicero

Me: Pro Life, Pro Family, LDS.

Not a fan of Romney. Won’t vote for him even if we are from the same faith. I think this study is pretty narrow-minded, and that’s saying something considering my sister teaches at BYU.


17 posted on 11/16/2010 3:23:09 PM PST by derekr44 (Straight, white, conservative male. How else can I piss you off today?)
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To: KateUTWS
What caused Mitt's defeat?

Well, let's see...

He used his executive power to create "gay" "marriage" in Massachusetts.

He pushed through socialized medicine, complete with $50 co-pay taxpayer-funded abortions.

He completely homosexualized the public schools and state government.

He banned guns.

And then he claimed he was a conservative.

American voters have been known to be taken in by liars, but some things are too far-fetched for even the most gullible among us.

18 posted on 11/16/2010 3:24:04 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Without checks and balances, why are you surprised that the courts are capsizing the ship of state?)
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To: rockvillem
We had plenty of "christian" "evangelical" bigots right here on FR who trashed Romney's Mormon religion and him as a member of the faith. Don't know whether they convinced anyone, since they are not very literate or articulate, but rather just spewers of hate. Nevertheless they were and are out there.
19 posted on 11/16/2010 3:24:23 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: EternalVigilance

Heh - your reason needs one more line: “The voters who would have been taken in by his lies were already in Obama’s camp.”


20 posted on 11/16/2010 3:25:32 PM PST by Ingtar (If Washington and his peers had been RINOs, we would still be a British colony.)
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To: rockvillem
"Every LDS I’ve ever know has been righteous - it isn’t “fair” that his faith plays a role, but to blame it on evangelical Christians is a joke. And this comes from someone who isn’t one."

Every LDS I've ever known has NOT been righteous. They certainly weren't righteous in their actions, although they could be very polite when they stabbed you in the back. And they needed the imputed righteousness of Jesus, not the earned righteousness demanded by Joseph Smith. And this also comes from someone who isn't one.

21 posted on 11/16/2010 3:25:57 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: hinckley buzzard

Agreed.


22 posted on 11/16/2010 3:26:34 PM PST by KateUTWS (What would a leftist do without his self-righteousness?)
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To: rockvillem

And it’s absolutely fair that voters consider religion sizing up the man. Religion speaks to character and core values.


23 posted on 11/16/2010 3:27:11 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: pissant
George Romney didn't have Jim Robinson & FreeRepublic to put up with!

...and Jim's crew of Conservative Crusaders.

24 posted on 11/16/2010 3:28:00 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: KateUTWS

I posted this piece for the information of Freepers who only see highly critical articles about Mitt Romney.
Fair and balanced.
Thanks for each and every comment.
Kate


25 posted on 11/16/2010 3:29:29 PM PST by KateUTWS (What would a leftist do without his self-righteousness?)
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To: TexasCajun

Who brainwashed him then? I thought it was Jimrob


26 posted on 11/16/2010 3:29:30 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: derekr44

Yes.

In similar fashion, I’m a Catholic, but that doesn’t mean that I’d vote for Teddy Kennedy or Nancy Pelosi because they call themselves Catholics.


27 posted on 11/16/2010 3:29:30 PM PST by Cicero
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To: pissant

This is not an endoresment! Romney ran a good campaign. well organized, staff wasnt infested with goofballs, he stayed on HIS message. They had great organization skills.
A lession could be learned by the way he ran...or others ran his campaign.

Hw will not be the nom in any case thank goodness. People are tired of the slick phonies..which includes the biggest con artist ..the HUCKSTER!


28 posted on 11/16/2010 3:31:08 PM PST by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: pissant

George SOROS BUTTBOY


29 posted on 11/16/2010 3:31:32 PM PST by STD (He walks like a he duck, he talks like a duck, yo' mama married two of the duckers, U a duck Boy!)
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To: rrrod

Yes, they were highly professional liars for Romney.


30 posted on 11/16/2010 3:33:04 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Without checks and balances, why are you surprised that the courts are capsizing the ship of state?)
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To: KateUTWS

My impression is that it was because a lot of people weren’t necessarily voting for him to win, but because they didn’t really want McCain.


31 posted on 11/16/2010 3:34:14 PM PST by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: KateUTWS
All this ink spilled for a simple explanation:

  1. It was McCain's turn.
  2. Soros preferred McCain.

Now there's good news and bad news for Mitt in 2012:
  1. The Good News: Its Mitt's turn as the runner-up to McCain.
  2. The Bad News: These rules will not apply in 2012.

32 posted on 11/16/2010 3:34:33 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: EternalVigilance

You miss the point. His staff did a great job. Not that he was RIGHT. Romney’s staff was better than McCain’s and the hucksters combined. That has nothing to do with his positions.


33 posted on 11/16/2010 3:42:01 PM PST by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: pissant

He is McMitt.


34 posted on 11/16/2010 3:44:04 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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To: KateUTWS

The report appears to present Mitt’s flip-flopping as a figment of our bigoted imaginations:

“George Romney was never portrayed as a flip-flopper the way Mitt was”


35 posted on 11/16/2010 3:45:50 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: rrrod

No, I totally got the point. They were very professional liars for Romney.


36 posted on 11/16/2010 3:47:30 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Without checks and balances, why are you surprised that the courts are capsizing the ship of state?)
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To: KateUTWS
What caused Mitt's defeat?

Well, the whole "he wasn't a conservative" argument won't fly, unless you believe that McCain is a conservative.

One term governors usually don't get Republican presidential nominations. A lot of primary voters (some of whom were actually Republicans) assumed it was McCain's turn, and McCain did have more experience in national politics.

Now this time, Romney can make a case that it's his turn. But he was still only a one-term governor, so he still hasn't proven he's got what it takes.

Obama's argument that winning primaries and the convention are the equivalent of actual political -- even administrative -- experience isn't going to fly with Republicans, especially now.

To a lot of people Mitt comes across a little too much like the CEO who fired them, so, barring some kind of freak perfect political storm, he won't win the nomination or election.

37 posted on 11/16/2010 3:48:43 PM PST by x
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To: KateUTWS

There is one word.

R-I-N-O!!!

This guy tried to look more liberal than Ted Kennedy to try and get elected as a Massachusetts. Then, when that wasn’t enough, he tried to look more conservative than the other GOP. I don’t think anyone knows where on Earth this guy stands on any issues.


38 posted on 11/16/2010 3:50:05 PM PST by Morpheus2009
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To: KateUTWS; Jim Robinson; hinckley buzzard
I posted this piece for the information of Freepers who only see highly critical articles about Mitt Romney.
Fair and balanced.
Thanks for each and every comment.
Kate

Obviously you haven't see THIS comment.

"Not to mention his baby MURDERING traits!! The man is scum of the earth!! he claims to have changed is mind, but I’ve never seen him apologize or beg forgiveness for the thousands of unborn babies he slaughtered on his Altar to himself, the Governor’s Chair of Massachusetts (should have been the electric chair). No, I will never be sympathetic to murdering socialist/statist scumbags or anyone who worships such evil!!

FUMR!! Keep him the hell off of FR!!

No RomneyCare for America!! No taxpayer funded abortion!! No gay agenda!! No mandates against our free people, even by a state government!!

And he’s never appologized for that either. In fact, he still brags about it!! Scumbag statist, that he is!!

Mitt Romney is an ASSHOLE statist/Marxist whore in drag!!

FUMR!!

Hope his supporters are reading me LOUD AND CLEAR!!

There will be NO Romney campaign on FR EVER!! So if that is your hope, get the FLOCK OFF FR NOW!!

196 posted on Sunday, November 07, 2010 2:42:59 PM by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Nuke the corrupt commie bastards to HELL!!)


39 posted on 11/16/2010 3:52:25 PM PST by greyfoxx39 (VP Cheney says at Bush Center groundbreaking: "This may be the only shovel-ready project in America")
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To: pissant

He’s a RINO- that’s what cost him...


40 posted on 11/16/2010 3:54:29 PM PST by TheBattman (They exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature...)
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To: greyfoxx39

He did manage to convince many movement conservatives. Ann Coulter was an early supporter. Laura Ingraham introduced him to CPAC as the conservative’s conservative. I’m glad at least FR was able to expose him.


41 posted on 11/16/2010 3:55:51 PM PST by ari-freedom (Islam is at war against America, while America is at the mall.)
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To: ari-freedom

Yeah, it’s amazing how many “conservative” “leaders” he got to lie for him. I know for a fact many of them did it for money, but apparently some whored themselves out for nothing.


42 posted on 11/16/2010 4:01:01 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Without checks and balances, why are you surprised that the courts are capsizing the ship of state?)
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To: KateUTWS

I thought it was because he looks fake, kinda like Max Headroom... you know with the plastic hair going on there. Really, out RINO-ing McCain and not being honest about it had more to do with his loss than anything else.


43 posted on 11/16/2010 4:01:30 PM PST by dajeeps
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To: KateUTWS
1. RINO

2. RINO

3. RINO...
44 posted on 11/16/2010 4:05:22 PM PST by dr_who
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To: KateUTWS

Maybe because at either the 1st or 2nd debate RINO Romney boasted that he had been a lifelong abortion pusher because

his mother Lenore Romney had been and she had run for US Senate from MI on an pro-abortion platform...

and he claimed he was “proud of her” for that sick stand..

and because his aunt had died from an abortion during the 1960s ...

though this made less sense than RINO Romney does...


45 posted on 11/16/2010 4:06:10 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9IJUkYUbvI


46 posted on 11/16/2010 4:15:24 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Without checks and balances, why are you surprised that the courts are capsizing the ship of state?)
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To: KateUTWS

Its very simple. Mitt stated the moremans (pun intended) would administer the rule of LAW from MISSOURI !

While Jesus rules from the mount of Olives !

Lol roflmao and this is his doctrin.
Fact is don’t be stupid know your enemy.


47 posted on 11/16/2010 4:27:38 PM PST by Tigen (I shall raise you one .)
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To: golf lover

>I think it was the “sacred underwear”.

Make that, magic underwear with occultic symbols.


48 posted on 11/16/2010 4:30:47 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: rrrod

“well organized, staff “

I especially liked the amazing organization of
his FAKE police force, complete with FAKE police
badges among his staff members!
(http://crooksandliars.com/2007/07/20/they-need-some-stinkin-badges)

That’s organization that every other candidate
could have learned from!

Since RINOmney allowed it to happen, I wonder
what the other candidates should learn about
how to be “ethical” from RINOmney?

ampu


49 posted on 11/16/2010 4:36:16 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: KateUTWS; Jim Robinson

“I posted this piece for the information of Freepers who only see highly critical articles about Mitt Romney.

“Fair and balanced.”

Are you implying the articles that are highly critical
of the baby killer RINOmney are false? Why are you on
FreeRepublic trying to “balance” out Mitt’s lousy
reputation as a conservative.

In other words, why are you taking time to shill for
RINOMNEY on FR, when people get banned for doing this?

ampu


50 posted on 11/16/2010 4:39:53 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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