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NPR: Website Publishes 100 Pictures Of Federal Security Body Scans
NPR ^ | November 16, 2010 | Eyder Peralta

Posted on 11/17/2010 7:17:58 AM PST by a fool in paradise

one of the images obtained by gizmodo.

A screenshot of one of the images obtained by Gizmodo. 

The website Gizmodo has published 100 pictures of body scans taken at an Orlando Federal Courthouse. The scans are not from the "naked scan" machines that the Department of Homeland Security announced were going into 28 airports in the country, earlier this year. Instead, they are much more pixelated and less embarrassing.

Still Gizmodo points to TSA's Advanced Imaging Technology's privacy policy, which states that the machines "cannot store, print, transmit or save the" images and that they are "automatically deleted from the system after it is cleared by the remotely located security officer."

Gizmodo attained the images by filing a Freedom of Information Act request. The images were among the 35,000 that U.S. Marshals at the Orlando courthouse admitted to saving.

Gizmodo, which blurred the faces in the photographs, explains their reasoning for publishing them:

The leaking of these photographs demonstrates the security limitations of not just this particular machine, but millimeter wave and x-ray backscatter body scanners operated by federal employees in our courthouses and by TSA officers in airports across the country. That we can see these images today almost guarantees that others will be seeing similar images in the future. If you're lucky, it might even be a picture of you or your family.

 

A poll released by CBS, yesterday, asked Americans if airports should use full-body x-rays. A whopping 81 percent of them said yes and it didn't matter their gender, age or political persuasion.

Earlier, today, Nate Silver of the New York Times' Five Thirty Eight analyzed how accurate those polls might be, considering that a wide range of them were conducted after terror threats and that most of them polled Americans who had never been through the machines. He found the numbers are pretty accurate:

My guess is that a majority of such passengers will still approve of them: Americans are willing to tolerate a great number of things at the airport that they would never stand for in other parts of their lives.

How about you? Where do you stand on the debate after seeing the published pictures?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bodyscanners; courthousesecurity; cultureofcorruption; donutwatch; fioa; floriduh; formastraightline; gizmodo; lyingliars; orlando; papersplease; policestate; privacyrights; tsa; tsapervs; tsascanners

1 posted on 11/17/2010 7:18:04 AM PST by a fool in paradise
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To: a fool in paradise

The government is *gasp* LYING to its citizens!! Ping!

D’oh.


2 posted on 11/17/2010 7:19:16 AM PST by pillut48 (Israel doesn't have a friend in President Obama...and neither does the USA! (h/t pgkdan))
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To: a fool in paradise

How about you? Where do you stand on the debate after seeing the published pictures?


Not exactly the pornography that some were *itching about, are they?


3 posted on 11/17/2010 7:21:06 AM PST by Grunthor (affirmative action doesn't work at the polls)
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To: a fool in paradise

The scans are not from the “naked scan” machines that the Department of Homeland Security announced were going into 28 airports in the country, earlier this year. Instead, they are much more pixelated and less embarrassing.


Never mind my last post, I should read the article before opening my fat mouth.


4 posted on 11/17/2010 7:22:20 AM PST by Grunthor (affirmative action doesn't work at the polls)
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To: a fool in paradise
Honesty, I wouldn't object to being scanned by one of the machines that they have in the courthouse there. Far more reasonable than the TSA scanners. I do object, however, to them saving those scans, illegally and in quantity. Even one illegally saved scan would inexcusable, but THIRTY-FIVE THOUSAND? Do these people think that they are above the law???

And anyway, why did they bother? Those scanner images are hardly exciting.

5 posted on 11/17/2010 7:29:30 AM PST by Celtic Cross (I AM the Impeccable Hat.)
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To: Celtic Cross
From the article:

The scans are not from the “naked scan” machines that the Department of Homeland Security announced were going into 28 airports

6 posted on 11/17/2010 7:31:08 AM PST by SouthTexas (WE are the Wave)
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To: a fool in paradise

They’re so fuzzy/blurry/sketchy how can anything be learned from them?


7 posted on 11/17/2010 7:33:35 AM PST by luvbach1 (Stop Barry now. He can't help himself.)
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To: a fool in paradise
CBS knows best, and NPR is 'news':
8 posted on 11/17/2010 7:39:38 AM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: luvbach1

That just makes the case for the even higher definition (naked) scanners.

On the other hand, how many smugglers have been caught by the naked scanners? Do they even yield results?

Just because they “see more” doesn’t mean that they are stopping people”.

Terrorists ARE being convicted stateside. We know they walk among us. But they don’t have ONE example of an attacker being thwarted by these machines? Not just “turned away”, but caught red handed, so to speak?


9 posted on 11/17/2010 7:40:49 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: a fool in paradise

Did you see the fellow who took a stand is now going to be investigated?

TSA to investigate body scan resister

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/nov/15/tsa-probe-scan-resistor/

Here’s the Gizmodo link they have a video on site

http://gizmodo.com/5690749/these-are-the-first-100-leaked-body-scans


10 posted on 11/17/2010 7:46:00 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: a fool in paradise

I am not so much concerned with the images.....but VERY concerned about the radiation. I opt out...


11 posted on 11/17/2010 7:47:29 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: a fool in paradise
I didn't even have to wait to see the pictures. I knew I didn't want to have mine taken. It's appalling how many Americans are willing to trade liberty for a very dubious safety.

We're seeing another version of the "gun control" mentality. Take away guns from everyone, in the hope of keeping guns from criminals. Here, it's violate everyone's liberties, in the hope of keeping a bomb off the plane. Just as in the case of "gun control," where it would be better to control criminals than disarm honest people, at airports it would be better to look for bombers than for bombs.

When was the last time an Amish grandmother took a bomb on an airplane?

12 posted on 11/17/2010 7:48:37 AM PST by JoeFromSidney
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To: JoeFromSidney

Thanks. It is the gun control mentality to a T. The gun grabbers disarm law abiding citizens, leaving armed criminals who don’t obey laws to wreak havoc. Here, we force innocent citizens to preen in front of Nazis, while the potential terrorist population is exempted.

This is madness, and you called it.


13 posted on 11/17/2010 8:01:08 AM PST by Luke21
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To: JoeFromSidney

Don’t forget with the “background checks” for guns, they assured the public that the paperwork would be reviewed then destroyed after a few days. It was being stockpiled along with everything else.

When corrupt figures lie to the public on matters of privacy rights, they have violated the oaths of their offices. We are now seeing it from unelected officials who often take no oath. But it is corruption all the same.

Get them under oath before Congress so if they lie about “not saving images” or “about telling anyone images would not be saved”, they can be prosecuted.


14 posted on 11/17/2010 8:01:08 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: SumProVita
I am not so much concerned with the images.....but VERY concerned about the radiation. I opt out...

What a choice radiation or groping, screw your Constitutional Rights and the right to travel!

The Right To Travel

As the Supreme Court notes in Saenz v Roe, 98-97 (1999), the Constitution does not contain the word "travel" in any context, let alone an explicit right to travel (except for members of Congress, who are guaranteed the right to travel to and from Congress). The presumed right to travel, however, is firmly established in U.S. law and precedent. In U.S. v Guest, 383 U.S. 745 (1966), the Court noted, "It is a right that has been firmly established and repeatedly recognized." In fact, in Shapiro v Thompson, 394 U.S. 618 (1969), Justice Stewart noted in a concurring opinion that "it is a right broadly assertable against private interference as well as governmental action. Like the right of association, ... it is a virtually unconditional personal right, guaranteed by the Constitution to us all." It is interesting to note that the Articles of Confederation had an explicit right to travel; it is now thought that the right is so fundamental that the Framers may have thought it unnecessary to include it in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights.

http://www.usconstitution.net/constnot.html#travel

15 posted on 11/17/2010 8:02:44 AM PST by Lockbox (`)
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To: a fool in paradise

I don’t care what they report. Defund NPR! A turd wrapped in classical music.


16 posted on 11/17/2010 8:02:44 AM PST by albie
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To: pillut48

“...The government is lying to its citizens...”
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Surprise, Surprise, Surprise.


17 posted on 11/17/2010 8:05:24 AM PST by Repeal The 17th
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To: a fool in paradise

The government seizes every opportunity to take away our freedoms. Any excuse will do. 9/11 provided an excuse to search passengers to find drugs or contraband. It was not done primarily to prevent hijacking.


18 posted on 11/17/2010 8:07:09 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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To: combat_boots

PBS is Pure BS and ABC is All Bull S-— And if you watch NBC you’ll CBS.


19 posted on 11/17/2010 8:12:07 AM PST by jd777
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To: SumProVita; Lazamataz; wagglebee

Does TSA have a “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy? If homosexuals are going to be permitted to serve as TSA agents groping passengers hands down pants, I’d perfer it to be frisked by a female (no post-op either).


20 posted on 11/17/2010 8:14:42 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
The government seizes every opportunity to take away our freedoms. Any excuse will do. 9/11 provided an excuse to search passengers to find drugs or contraband. It was not done primarily to prevent hijacking.

It stretches back even farther than that.

In the 1980s, the policy began of requiring a driver's license to board an airplane ("in the name of security"). The real reason the airlines wanted it was to prohibit the resale of an unused ticket from a roundtrip purchase (roundtrip tickets could be a lower combined fare than 2 one way tickets or maybe even just a single one way fare).

Driver's licenses did not prevent the 9-11 attacks and since 9-11-2001, corrupt employees at driver's license bureaus have been caught selling valid driver's licenses to middle eastern illegal aliens who have presented falsified information. Not just a case of the employee "not knowing", but the employee knowing and wanting a kickback for "approving" the license.

Require an internally recognized passport or no photo ID at all.

21 posted on 11/17/2010 8:19:22 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
The government seizes every opportunity to take away our freedoms. Any excuse will do. 9/11 provided an excuse to search passengers to find drugs or contraband. It was not done primarily to prevent hijacking.

And contraband includes things like "more than 2 beanie babies" when you are entering America as well as bootleg concert cds. Not necessarily drugs, weapons, or agricultural products.

22 posted on 11/17/2010 8:20:41 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: a fool in paradise
Those images are nonsense. Try these..(too graphic to post)
http://www.prisonplanet.com/inverted-body-scanner-image-shows-naked-body-in-full-living-color.html

From the website..
As we reported yesterday, claims that the body scanners did not provide details of genitals were disproven after a London Guardian journalist who was present at a trial for the machines earlier this week reported that the devices produce an image which make “genitals eerily visible.” German Security advisor Hans-Detlef Dau, a representative for a company that sells the scanners, admits that the machines, “show intimate piercings, catheters and the form of breasts and penises”....
A report from October 2008, when the naked body scanners were first being introduced at Melbourne Airport in Australia, detailed how the X-ray backscatter devices don’t work properly unless the genitals of people going through them are visible.

23 posted on 11/17/2010 8:48:49 AM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Vinnie

http://www.prisonplanet.com/inverted-body-scanner-image-shows-naked-body-in-full-living-color.html

sorry


24 posted on 11/17/2010 8:51:21 AM PST by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: Vinnie

I’m really glad you did this and showed a woman’s intimate details. The media spin here is to assist in the imposition of tyranny through obfuscation and lies.

That statist fiend Hannity yesterday started arguing with the guy who is being harassed by the TSA, asking him what the big deal was about a scanner, and equating it to his wife seeing him naked. That spoke volumes about what an elitist statist type Hannity is.


25 posted on 11/17/2010 8:57:05 AM PST by Luke21
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To: Grunthor

“Not exactly the pornography that some were itching about..”

Remember, these are only 100 photos of 35,000 that are kept. I have seen other photos that do show ... uh... anatomy. The government shows us what they want to show us and when they want to show us.


26 posted on 11/17/2010 10:00:29 AM PST by momtothree
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