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TSA boss: New pat-downs are more invasive
ajc.com ^ | 10-17-10 | EILEEN SULLIVAN

Posted on 11/17/2010 8:48:22 AM PST by rawhide

The head of the Transportation Security Administration is acknowledging that the new pat-downs are more invasive than what travelers were used to in the past.

TSA administrator John Pistole says he has received the new pat-down, as has his boss, Secretary Janet Napolitano.

Some travelers complain that the new inspections target sensitive body areas. Pistole says he understands those privacy concerns, but says the government must provide the best possible security for air travelers.

Pistole was testifying before a Senate committee about TSA policies and procedures. The hearing was scheduled before the recent outrage about airport security pat-downs.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: body; optout; scanner; tsa; tsapervs
Isn't the best possible security to pat down everbody, no exceptions, including the moslem women? Or even better, for everyone to do a complete strip search, women, children, moslem women, and to preform a body cavity search? No religious exemption allowed!

One of the real reason for these enhanced pat-downs is for the government to take control of our lives, just as in the heathcare fiasco!

1 posted on 11/17/2010 8:48:29 AM PST by rawhide
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To: rawhide

“Isn’t the best possible security to pat down everbody, no exceptions, including the moslem women? Or even better, for everyone to do a complete strip search, women, children, moslem women, and to preform a body cavity search? No religious exemption allowed!”

Big government doesn’t care about logic. This is about power, tyranny, and putting us in our place. We have a government of elitist sociopaths.


2 posted on 11/17/2010 8:50:55 AM PST by Luke21
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To: rawhide

“as has his boss, Secretary Janet Napolitano”

We may have found the bravest person on the planet!


3 posted on 11/17/2010 8:50:55 AM PST by I cannot think of a name
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To: rawhide

Can you imagine the left’s heads exploding if this happened under George Bush? They didn’t even want him to wiretap the terrorists!


4 posted on 11/17/2010 8:51:42 AM PST by blondee123 (REPEAL OBAMACARE, NO NEW TAXES, NO NEW SPENDING!)
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To: rawhide

And if you resist you will be investigated!

TSA to investigate body scan resister
Oceanside man took a stand against security, went viral

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/nov/15/tsa-probe-scan-resistor/


5 posted on 11/17/2010 8:51:54 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: rawhide

These pat downs go against my religion as well. I am not afforded the same a muzzies.


6 posted on 11/17/2010 8:55:13 AM PST by Bruinator (God is Great.... Beer is good.... Muzzies are.........?)
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To: rawhide

Exactly what do these new, invasive, unconstitutional searches have to do with “the best possible security for air travelers.”

How ‘bout aggressive profiling? Armed Air Marshalls? Allowing CCW holders to keep their weapons?

Jeez! Get a clue from the Israelis, Big Sis!!


7 posted on 11/17/2010 8:55:39 AM PST by Tigerized (pursuingliberty.com)
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To: rawhide

Instead of driving our economy, fuel efficient vehicles, we’ll all be looking at the big vans to transport our families on vacation!!!


8 posted on 11/17/2010 8:55:39 AM PST by blondee123 (REPEAL OBAMACARE, NO NEW TAXES, NO NEW SPENDING!)
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To: blondee123

RE: Bush.

I’ve been thinking the same thing for a few days now. If this had happened under W’s watch, the left would be up in arms over it. Even the token liberal chick on Hannity’s Great American Panel last night acknowledged that.


9 posted on 11/17/2010 8:55:48 AM PST by YourAdHere (Joey Greco '12)
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To: rawhide
Pistole says he understands those privacy concerns, but says the government must provide the best possible security for air travelers.

Wrong! The government is to provide the best reasonable security for air travelers. The best possible security would be body cavity searches before boarding and protective body armor while on board. The best reasonable security is to identify the problem travelers and screen them from the flights.

10 posted on 11/17/2010 8:57:25 AM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: I cannot think of a name
“as has his boss, Secretary Janet Napolitano”

We may have found the bravest person on the planet!

Make person(S) as it would take more than one to search that fat, clueless, beeatch, unless the one person was being paid overtime!

But your right in the yuuuuuk respect, as even the thought, has spoiled my thoughts about having lunch!

11 posted on 11/17/2010 9:01:06 AM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: rawhide

the best possible security... would mean full body cavity exams of all passengers and crew.

Barney Frank full supports this, so we could count on some bi-partisan support :P


12 posted on 11/17/2010 9:01:39 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: rawhide
TSA administrator John Pistole says he has received the new pat-down, as has his boss, Secretary Janet Napolitano.

I call BS. Unless it's done in public it didn't happen.

13 posted on 11/17/2010 9:03:36 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Napolean fries the idea powder.)
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To: rawhide

>>but says the government must provide the best possible security for air travelers. <<

That line could be used to support pulling each and every passenger into a private room and having a TSA agent cram their hand up their lower intestine/vagina and feel around for “stuff”.

IOW, it is BS. Or worse. After all, what will they do after someone is discovered who DOES get C4 onto a plane with that method?


14 posted on 11/17/2010 9:03:50 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: rawhide

I hope at today’s hearing that someone ask these TSA guys if the moslem women will undergo these enhanced complete body pat-downs, as are the ‘infidels’?


15 posted on 11/17/2010 9:05:40 AM PST by rawhide
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To: rawhide

Boycott. Stop flying. Put it at the feet of Obama, the Kenyan Mooselim.


16 posted on 11/17/2010 9:15:45 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: rawhide
From FoxNews:

The Transportation Security Administration says airline passengers won't get out of body imaging screening or pat-downs based on their religious beliefs.

TSA chief John Pistole told the Senate Homeland Security Committee on Tuesday that passengers who refuse to go through a full-body scanner machine and reject a pat-down won't be allowed to board, even if they turned down the in-depth screening for religious reasons.

"That person is not going to get on an airplane," Pistole said in response to a question from Sen. John Ensign, R-Nev., on whether the TSA would provide exemptions for passengers whose religious beliefs do not allow them to go through a physically revealing body scan or be touched by screeners.

Civil rights groups contend the more intensive screening violates civil liberties including freedom of religion, the right to privacy and the constitutional protection against unreasonable searches.

17 posted on 11/17/2010 9:15:54 AM PST by rawhide
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To: rawhide
TSA administrator John Pistole says he has received the new pat-down, as has his boss, Secretary Janet Napolitano.

Guaranteed to be a BULLSH1T lie!!

Or our gubmint officials really ARE as stupid as they look!!

18 posted on 11/17/2010 9:16:34 AM PST by GoldenPup
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To: rawhide

The government always responds to the last threat. I predict if we find one of the terrorists coming at us with a bomb in his anal cavity we will soon have to take TSA supervised mandatory enemas before boarding planes.

Can’t someone tell these guys about the Israeli system of behavior modeling.


19 posted on 11/17/2010 9:28:25 AM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: RobRoy

Just a matter of time.

Drug smugglers have already been using condoms filled w/cocaine.


20 posted on 11/17/2010 9:28:36 AM PST by fruser1
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To: rawhide
...but says the government must provide the best possible security for air travelers.

Then why aren't they focusing on the people who are a real threat? Why have they prevented most pilots from being armed? Why have they forced sky marshalls to wear recognizable suits?

21 posted on 11/17/2010 9:30:53 AM PST by 3niner (When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
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To: rawhide

These pat downs go against my religion as well. I am not afforded the same a muzzies.


22 posted on 11/17/2010 9:34:12 AM PST by Bruinator (God is Great.... Beer is good.... Muzzies are.........?)
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To: rawhide

As long as the sheep put up with it, why not?

The choice is simple:

Is flying worth being groped and felt up?

If the answer is yes, continue flying.

If the answer is no, stop flying.

Do what the TSA Agents do to someone in a bar would get one arrested.


23 posted on 11/17/2010 9:34:47 AM PST by sport
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To: Bruinator

Nope!


24 posted on 11/17/2010 9:36:08 AM PST by sport
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To: Tigerized
Exactly what do these new, invasive, unconstitutional searches have to do with “the best possible security for air travelers.”

This all has little to do with security. As long as political correctness is used as exemptions for the real issue of profiling then there will be no security. Therefore this is just a further opportunity for governmental control.

25 posted on 11/17/2010 9:36:14 AM PST by clove (God, Country and Family, the truth will live!)
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To: rawhide

Think BIG! Big Invasive Gubamint .. Get Used to It!


26 posted on 11/17/2010 9:38:32 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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You have no rights when you purchase an air travel ticket. Read the fine print. He’s right.
If anything happens, passengers are subject to the Geneva Convention and a value of $75K is set as maximum damages (or it used to be).
You surrender your rights everytime you step into an airport terminal.
.. and some folks think we’re winning the War on International Interlopers.
The biggest enemies to our way of life are here in our own gubamint.


27 posted on 11/17/2010 9:45:12 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: rawhide

Here’s what you do. Teach your kids to scream bloody murder if anybody touches them in the wrong area. Tell them that this is the rule, except for doctors during a medical exam.

When the kids yell and scream, go over to them and comfort them, and take them from the area. If TSA arrests you and your kids, then this country is no longer worth saving.


28 posted on 11/17/2010 9:47:29 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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To: rawhide

If you’re an 82 year old woman, here’s what you do. If one of the agents touches you where you don’t want to be touched, yell and scream and squirm and say “miss - no one touches me there! you stop it right now!”

If TSA arrests the 82 year old women, then this country is no longer worth saving.


29 posted on 11/17/2010 9:50:01 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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To: rawhide

They are doing this to train us to be submissive. The American government has never been happy with the freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution, and so they have been chipping away at them, little by little, intruding into our lives and training us to accept more and more invasive probing into our lives.


30 posted on 11/17/2010 9:53:05 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged
If you’re an 82 year old woman, here’s what you do. If one of the agents touches you where you don’t want to be touched, yell and scream and squirm and say “miss - no one touches me there my clitoris! you stop it right now!” Fixed it for you.
31 posted on 11/17/2010 10:07:19 AM PST by pops88
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To: pops88; Leftism is Mentally Deranged
If you’re an 82 year old woman, here’s what you do. If one of the agents touches you where you don’t want to be touched, yell and scream and squirm and say “miss - no one touches me there my clitoris junk! You stop it right now!” -- Fixed it again...
32 posted on 11/17/2010 10:16:00 AM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: rawhide

A trusted traveler program would work, as would some form of what the Israelis do. With the modern highly secure driver’s licenses as photographic and basic biometric ID — there should be no trouble letting most Americans through on the basis of social profiling. Almost no one should have to go through advanced screenings.


33 posted on 11/17/2010 10:20:34 AM PST by bvw
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To: sport

Sir, as an American I DEMAND my right to travel by common carrier, by airline. And to do so without being subjected to experimental forms of radiation, or indignities to person.


34 posted on 11/17/2010 10:22:51 AM PST by bvw
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To: Paine in the Neck
TSA administrator John Pistole says he has received the new pat-down, as has his boss, Secretary Janet Napolitano.

Breitbart should offer $10,000 for any video of Napolitano getting groped.

35 posted on 11/17/2010 10:27:07 AM PST by Sloth (Civil disobedience? I'm afraid only the uncivil kind is going to cut it this time.)
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To: I cannot think of a name
Heeeeres Janet!


36 posted on 11/17/2010 10:27:56 AM PST by csmusaret (Tax revenue increased 39% from2002 to 2007 as a result of the Bush tax cuts.)
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To: rawhide
New pat-downs are more invasive

Could it be this is for flying AF1 also? No wonder, 0b0z0 has been flying his ass off and enjoying it!

37 posted on 11/17/2010 10:33:13 AM PST by melancholy (It ain't Camelot, it's Scam-a-lot!)
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To: bvw

I’m with you. But I don’t think they give a damn about what we demand. We said we did not want obama care. They said ,hell with whar we wanted and put it on us anyway.
From their point of view, we cab demand in one hand and shit in the other hand and see which one gets full first.


38 posted on 11/17/2010 10:44:02 AM PST by sport
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To: rawhide
TSA administrator John Pistole says he has received the new pat-down, as has his boss, Secretary Janet Napolitano

Yeah....uh-huh. That's a lie.

39 posted on 11/17/2010 11:12:12 AM PST by Sarajevo (You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
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