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U.S. Consumers Ditching Cable TV In Droves
IBD's Click ^ | 11/17/2010 | Patrick Seitz

Posted on 11/17/2010 9:27:44 AM PST by Slyscribe

U.S. cable TV operators lost 741,000 basic video customers in the third quarter, research firm SNL Kagan reported Wednesday. That’s the single largest quarterly drop for cable since SNL Kagan began compiling data for the segment in 1980.

Cable’s share of the multichannel pay television market continues to slide, dipping to 60.3% from 62.9% in Q3 2009.

Gains in telecom and satellite TV services were not enough to offset the loss of cable subscribers, so the overall multichannel pay-TV market lost 119,000 customers last quarter.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boycotttimewarner; cable; dinosaurmedia; hulu; netflix; nickelanddime; paytv; pravdamedia
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1 posted on 11/17/2010 9:27:49 AM PST by Slyscribe
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To: Slyscribe

WAY overpriced. I’d happily pay $3/mo for my choice of 10 channels.


2 posted on 11/17/2010 9:31:46 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Slyscribe

We cut cable 6 months ago, one of the best things we have ever done, you would not believe how the family dynamic changed (for the better).


3 posted on 11/17/2010 9:32:49 AM PST by Jolla
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To: Slyscribe

I propose a $100B subsidy for the industry. It’s too important to suffer like this. People will die without it.


4 posted on 11/17/2010 9:32:53 AM PST by lurk
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To: Paladin2

I’m thinking about canceling my free TV.


5 posted on 11/17/2010 9:33:05 AM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: Slyscribe

They just need a stimulus package bailout...


6 posted on 11/17/2010 9:33:32 AM PST by ltc8k6
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To: abb; Frantzie

Up your alleys.


7 posted on 11/17/2010 9:33:40 AM PST by Borges
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To: Slyscribe

We went commando an ditched it ALL. Now we have Netflix through our Wii and Hulu through our computer and are perfectly happy.


8 posted on 11/17/2010 9:33:47 AM PST by T Minus Four (Duh. We were talking about in the old days or not-so-distant old days)
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To: Slyscribe

Thats gonna leave a mark


9 posted on 11/17/2010 9:34:08 AM PST by Rightly Biased (Do you know how awkward it is to have a political argument with a naked man?)
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To: Slyscribe

Netflix, HULU and others must be making an impact...Amazing what happens when you want to pay for only what you want to see...

I would gladly pay 50% less for 90% less channels, if I kept the channels that I wanted. This deal of packaging different channels so that you have to pay the top subscription rate is for the birds.


10 posted on 11/17/2010 9:34:45 AM PST by Maringa
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To: Slyscribe; Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...

Defund the Left, drop cable/satellite tv.


11 posted on 11/17/2010 9:35:12 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Sopater
"...my free TV"

You got a free TV from Zer0's stash?

12 posted on 11/17/2010 9:35:39 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Slyscribe

we cut down significantly on our cable
just get basic and Foxnews now which trimmed my bill by about 40 bucks a month
i get my internet from the same provider so the bill is still higher than i would like but this is far better than what i was paying before


13 posted on 11/17/2010 9:36:20 AM PST by DM1
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To: Sopater
I’m thinking about canceling my free TV.

I did a couple of years ago. TV died, didn't get a replacement.

14 posted on 11/17/2010 9:36:48 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Slyscribe

A couple of years ago there was a move afoot to try to get the cable companies to provide an “ala carte” kind of service.

You would pay, let’s say, $30 a month for up to 8 channels from list A and up to 3 channels from list B.

Cable companies fought it tooth and nail and insisted on keeping packaged programming.

You reap what you sow.


15 posted on 11/17/2010 9:36:54 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Slyscribe
Well, I haven't ditched Comcast yet, but I'm making preparations. Built and installed a "media PC" for my new plasma HDTV. Already a NetFlix subscriber. The only thing I see that cable can do to regain market share is allow "a la carte" channel subscriptions charging only for subscribed channels. There are a VERY few premium channels that I would like to get, but to get them I would also have to pay for hundreds I am not interested in.

I think eventually, all show production will move to an internet transmission model.

16 posted on 11/17/2010 9:37:34 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: Paladin2
I’d happily pay $3/mo for my choice of 10 channels.

I'd jump on that deal in a flash as well. Personally, I watch very little TV. Occasional sports, some news (although it's not a primary news source any longer) and I like the occasional travel or cooking show. I don't watch any and I think I could only name 1 tv series that's currently running (assuming some version of CSI is still on).

17 posted on 11/17/2010 9:38:19 AM PST by highlander_UW (Education is too important to abdicate control of it to the government)
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To: Paladin2

It wouldn’t work, considering cable companies pay ESPN something like $4 per subscriber. They pay local broadcast channels about $1 per subscriber.

As much as I dislike the cable companies, they make most of their money on equipment rental and premium channel subscriptions.


18 posted on 11/17/2010 9:38:30 AM PST by MediaMole
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To: Slyscribe

I got rid of cable 8 years ago


19 posted on 11/17/2010 9:38:42 AM PST by ezoeni
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To: Slyscribe

When you have an effective unemployment rate of around 15%, doesn’t it seem logical that people would cut back on dicretionary expenses and pay for TV would be one of them?


20 posted on 11/17/2010 9:39:23 AM PST by Old Retired Army Guy (tHE)
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To: Slyscribe

I live in the hills [Hollywood] and get no reception since Mount Wilson is blocked. So I have to pay $65.00 for basic cable.

It’s not worth it as I rarely watch TV.

When I can find another way to watch, I’m dumping my cable.


21 posted on 11/17/2010 9:39:37 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Slyscribe

You would think the laws of supply and demand would kick in at some point but they don’t seem to.


22 posted on 11/17/2010 9:39:47 AM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: T Minus Four

We have none of it. Netflix is all you really need.

Cut the cable and get rid of TV. It will improve your family life and help defund the left.


23 posted on 11/17/2010 9:39:56 AM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: All

I wonder if there is going to be a move to shutdown/limit Netflix/HULU, etc. I can see the cable companies working with TV/Film/Network production companies to limit what can be broadcast over the internet. Also, eventually seeing Netflix pricing go up dramatically from the current low rates...


24 posted on 11/17/2010 9:40:03 AM PST by Maringa
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To: Slyscribe

Not fast enough to suit me. We cut the smut cable years ago.


25 posted on 11/17/2010 9:40:08 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Starve the beast. Save the liver!)
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To: Slyscribe

They’ve got to unbundle the garbage. Customers don’t want 200 channels of drek just to get the 4-5 shows they like.


26 posted on 11/17/2010 9:40:08 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Napolean fries the idea powder.)
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To: Slyscribe

Times are tough, everyone is cutting back on expenses. The high cost of cable TV service can buy more needed groceries. We’re all cutting back, we even disconnected the home phone and went over to Magic Jack, its great, no annoying telemarketing. You have to realize that the computer also acts as a TV. There are many webb sites that provide movies and missed TV shows.


27 posted on 11/17/2010 9:40:15 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (The candidate they smear and ridicule the most is the one they fear the most.)
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To: Jolla

I cut cable several years ago...it is heaven not continually having cable junk pumped into you. It is such a blessing....


28 posted on 11/17/2010 9:40:26 AM PST by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: ezoeni

How do you watch TV? Or do you just not watch at all.

I know during 9/11, the TV coverage was essential to me.


29 posted on 11/17/2010 9:40:45 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: MediaMole
They need a new business model.

I cut them off 10 years ago.

30 posted on 11/17/2010 9:41:17 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: T Minus Four

Same here. Haven’t missed anything either.


31 posted on 11/17/2010 9:41:45 AM PST by Tucker822
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To: Maringa

I get about 40 free channels the old fashion way with an antenna. Told DirectTV to go away years ago. Who wants to pay for all those commercials?

BTW I am 50 and 80 miles from most of the big city tv transmitters.


32 posted on 11/17/2010 9:42:15 AM PST by 386wt
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To: BunnySlippers
"I know during 9/11, the TV coverage was essential to me. "

FR and other web based sources.

33 posted on 11/17/2010 9:42:15 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: 386wt

What antenna and mounting height do you use?


34 posted on 11/17/2010 9:43:26 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: DM1

I watch lots of Fox news on youtube for free. Sometimes you just have to wait 24 hrs, but if it’s any good at all, it’s there.
Their website videos are free too.


35 posted on 11/17/2010 9:44:47 AM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Starve the beast. Save the liver!)
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To: Wonder Warthog

Can I ask you a question what kind of Plasma TV did you get? Our TV is acting up (it’s a 1984 so I can’t complain but still I love that TV and wouldn’t think of replacing it otherwise lol). I was looking at the Black Friday Ads and reading reviews and I had come to the conclusion a Plasma is what we should buy and I noted Panasonic had very good ratings so I was thinking of one of those.


36 posted on 11/17/2010 9:47:54 AM PST by FromLori (FromLori)
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To: 386wt

” Who wants to pay for all those commercials? “

I’m old enough to remember back in the 70’s when the first experimental Cable TV systems were coming on line - back then, the big selling-point was that, since you paid for programming up-front, there would be no commercials....

We’ve come a long way, Baby..... ;)


37 posted on 11/17/2010 9:48:28 AM PST by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: Paladin2
Have you tried tvfool to see what you can expect to receive? I used it before I had an antenna installed and get better reception than the site predicted (I'm roughly 70-80 miles from the transmitters I'm interested in).

Also, something the cable company doesn't advertise, your over-the-air reception will likely be better than what comes over the cable. With OTA, you're getting it straight from the source, but the cable company will receive it and recode it to their standards with loss of quality along the way.

38 posted on 11/17/2010 9:50:25 AM PST by whd23 (Every time a link is de-blogged an angel gets its wings.)
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To: Slyscribe

I would love a menu of channels to choose from, instead of a comprehensive lineup. The lineup is a way of displaying the logos of all the available channels, and making you feel like you are getting a good deal. But I will never watch BET or MTV. I also don’t like CNN or any of its derivatives, and I don’t like MSNBC or CNBC. I won’t watch Bloomberg, because it makes money for people named Bloomberg. But the reason they won’t unbundle the choices is that CNN and many others would simply go out of business due to lack of income.


39 posted on 11/17/2010 9:52:52 AM PST by webheart (I am a Sarah fan.)
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To: Paladin2

I ditched direct tv last month because I’m sick of paying for a bunch of crappy channels that I never watch and not getting the channels I want unless I pay for all that crap first. I have said many times before that the individual who offers consumers a pay per channel option as opposed to the ususal pay for the bundle of crap that you never watch and don’t want will put the entire industry out of business. I’m hoping the internet puts them all out of business first.


40 posted on 11/17/2010 9:52:57 AM PST by RC one (WHAT!!!!)
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To: Slyscribe

I have cable, but only because it’s a good deal with my Internet service (Road Runner). I would never get it stand-alone.


41 posted on 11/17/2010 9:54:56 AM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist (The Republic of the United States of America)
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To: Slyscribe

We dumped Directv three years ago.
We have Netflix on the PS3 and since Dad hooked a computer up to the plasma, we watch YouTube (Iron Chef Japan) and CBS (Star Trek).

We got a nice antenna for the roof and all the locals, including the Canadian stations from Windsor, come right in.

No way would I go back to paying 60.00 a month for the crap they are showing.


42 posted on 11/17/2010 9:55:08 AM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: Maringa
I wonder if there is going to be a move to shutdown/limit Netflix/HULU, etc. I can see the cable companies working with TV/Film/Network production companies to limit what can be broadcast over the internet. Also, eventually seeing Netflix pricing go up dramatically from the current low rates...

I dumped Comcast tv this past summer but I kept their internet service so I could stream Netflix with less downtime. Now I hear that Comcast is going to dramatically raise the price of their internet pricing just to move in on the Netflix market, or, at least, cause it real harm.

The cable companies aren't going down without a real fight - but the bullet is in the air - and they have only their greedy little selves to blame.

43 posted on 11/17/2010 9:56:11 AM PST by tisket ("So many guns around town and so few brains." - Humphrey Bogart in "The Big Sleep")
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To: Slyscribe

Cable sucked. Lost reception way to often, was way to expensive.
Have Dish. Loss reception for a few minutes once or twice a year, less expensive.
Also have high speed internet and have netflix and get instant streamion movies and use Hulu for free to watch many TV programs I can not record because of recording others


44 posted on 11/17/2010 9:58:30 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA
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To: 386wt

I’d like to know too...what kind of antenna?

We ditched our cable and are only on airwaves now as well—we’re right outside of Philly but our reception is not that great. When I was a kid I used to be able to pull in a couple of NYC channels.


45 posted on 11/17/2010 9:58:41 AM PST by Claud
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To: T Minus Four
We went commando an ditched it ALL. Now we have Netflix through our Wii and Hulu through our computer and are perfectly happy.

What do you do for internet access? Ours is through the cable.

46 posted on 11/17/2010 9:58:48 AM PST by nina0113
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To: Uncle Ike
back then, the big selling-point was that, since you paid for programming up-front, there would be no commercials....

Yep, that was part of it. But another big part of early cable TV was that it gave us more than four channels (ABC, CBS, NBC and PBS).

I can remember when having WTBS was some sort of great enhancement of the TV experience. Now there are so many channels no one could possibly watch more than a fraction of them, but the popular ones still add to what one is charged for cable or dish.

47 posted on 11/17/2010 10:00:36 AM PST by Will88
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To: Slyscribe; Big Giant Head

We cut it after the 2000 elections. It helped out my blood pressure and my budget. It’s no surprise that people would cut cable when looking to slash expenses. It’s a no brainer.


48 posted on 11/17/2010 10:01:15 AM PST by Marie Antoinette (Proud Clinton-hater since 1998.)
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To: Sopater
canceling my free TV...

Always a good idea in threads like this to plug this book. Out of print, but still available from Amazon:

Postman's theme is the decline of the printed word and the ascendancy of the "tube" with its tendency to present everythingmurder, mayhem, politics, weatheras entertainment. The ultimate effect, as Postman sees it, is the shrivelling of public discourse as TV degrades our conception of what constitutes news, political debate, art, even religious thought. Early chapters trace America's one-time love affair with the printed word, from colonial pamphlets to the publication of the Lincoln-Douglas debates. There's a biting analysis of TV commercials as a form of "instant therapy" based on the assumption that human problems are easily solvable. Postman goes further than other critics in demonstrating that television represents a hostile attack on literate culture.

49 posted on 11/17/2010 10:01:36 AM PST by C210N (0bama, Making the US safe for Global Marxism)
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To: Slyscribe

This is Economics 101:

High price + crappy product = declining sales.


50 posted on 11/17/2010 10:03:10 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard
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