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Leader of TSA offers pat-downs to senators
The Hill ^ | 11/17/2010 | Jordy Yager

Posted on 11/17/2010 10:32:49 AM PST by markomalley

The head of the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) offered on Wednesday to have airport screeners come to Capitol Hill to give senators a pat-down so they could fully understand the mechanics of the newly deployed, controversial technique.  

John Pistole told senators on the Senate Science, Commerce and Transportation Committee that he “insisted” on receiving the pat-down to “experience what that involves so that we would know before we rolled it out,” and added that Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano has gotten a pat-down as well. 

“Honestly, any member who has not experienced that pat-down [and] who would like to do that — I would not offer it — but an experienced qualified security officer would be glad to do that,” Pistole said. 

Pistole has been at the center of growing public concern about the new pat-down techniques, which he described as “clearly more invasive” than the traditional screening airline passengers have been used to. But, he said, the invasiveness is justified by the level and types of threats to the airline industry that he is privy to. 

“Yes, it was more invasive than what I was used to,” said Pistole. “Of course, what’s in my mind … is what are the plots out there, how are we informed by the latest intelligence and latest technology and what do we need to do to ensure the American people that as they travel that we are being thorough.”

“So yes, it is clearly more invasive. The purpose of that is obviously to detect the type of devices that we had not seen before last Christmas. I am very sensitive to and concerned about people’s privacy concerns and I want to work through that as best we can.” 

Pistole told a separate panel of senators yesterday that the pat-down technique is so thorough that, had it been used, it would have thwarted the suspected Christmas Day bomber, who allegedly hid an explosive device in his underwear. 

He declined to go into specific details on Wednesday about what the pat-down technique entails, saying that he didn’t want to give “a road map to anybody” on how to defeat the technique. 

Under new TSA rules, passengers are required to go through whole-body imaging systems. But because some people believe that the technology is too invasive, TSA officials give people the option of passing through a metal detector or receiving a pat-down, which some have said makes them feel like they’re being groped. 

Sen. Mike Johanns (R-Neb.) said he went through the whole-body imaging system and then received a pat-down before a recent flight. Pistole said he wasn’t sure how that would have happened under the current security guidelines in place at airports. 

Pistole said he hopes that new screening technology will soon be available that will depict images of passengers that are more like stick-figures than the life-like representation currently produced by whole-body imaging systems, which have spurred privacy concerns.

Nearly all of the senators at Wednesday's hearing said they had received dozens, and in some cases hundreds, of phone calls from concerned constituents about the new screening procedures.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: junk; tsapervs

1 posted on 11/17/2010 10:32:52 AM PST by markomalley
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To: markomalley

he should check out Lindy Graham first and submit a report.


2 posted on 11/17/2010 10:36:04 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: markomalley

By the end of decade passengers will be forced to drink a laxative and then sit on a clear glass toilet until they crap.


3 posted on 11/17/2010 10:37:05 AM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini)
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To: markomalley

Bet ya ‘ol Barney will be first in line.


4 posted on 11/17/2010 10:37:15 AM PST by Captain7seas
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To: markomalley

Just shaking up the legislator to get a feel for the future.


5 posted on 11/17/2010 10:37:15 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: markomalley

I have a better idea - have the Senators go through the x-ray screeners then show them the pictures and see if they approve of them - then pat them down - just because - you know, get the whole TSA effect......


6 posted on 11/17/2010 10:37:36 AM PST by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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To: Red_Devil 232

When I see video of Malia and Sasha getting the pat down then I’ll change my mind that the ruling class are hypocrites.


7 posted on 11/17/2010 10:39:54 AM PST by updatedscreenname
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To: markomalley

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEeeGMpM_Nk


8 posted on 11/17/2010 10:40:41 AM PST by tumblindice (leggo my eggo you Bass-turd)
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To: lightman

>> By the end of decade passengers will be forced to drink a laxative and then sit on a clear glass toilet until they crap.

Speaking strictly for myself, by the end of the decade, it’ll probably feel so good to take a healthy crap, I may actually enjoy flying again. :-(


9 posted on 11/17/2010 10:40:49 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: markomalley

Wouldn’t be surprised if Napolitano came back for more.


10 posted on 11/17/2010 10:41:25 AM PST by Stosh
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To: markomalley

“Check me out first, you’ll see I’m packing quite a pistol”


11 posted on 11/17/2010 10:42:08 AM PST by AU72
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To: markomalley

Want to give the full effect? Then post the TSA at the congresscritter’s entrance and have them go through the search every-single-time they enter the building. And don’t forget to have their families molested in front of them every time they visit.


12 posted on 11/17/2010 10:42:41 AM PST by yureikumaTN ("Never give in--never, never, never, never.." Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: markomalley

He’s lucky he didn’t offer the pat-down to Bwanney.


13 posted on 11/17/2010 10:43:12 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: markomalley
He declined to go into specific details on Wednesday about what the pat-down technique entails, saying that he didn’t want to give “a road map to anybody” on how to defeat the technique.

LOL, that has got to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. They've got some super-secret technique for feeling people up.

14 posted on 11/17/2010 10:43:22 AM PST by Shethink13
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To: Red_Devil 232

Wow. They can check this, but not ANWR or the evidence against Clinton.

I’m waiting for a horse to get appointed...


15 posted on 11/17/2010 10:44:00 AM PST by Darth Tokarev (Liberalism: Using intellectualism to justify moral cowardice.)
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To: markomalley

Any pat-down the senators would recieve
under these conditions would certainly be
a ‘best-behavior’ deal with minimal groping.

Will Boxer volunteer to have her breasts
simultaneously groped and checked for lumps?

Load of crap.

If the senators are that interested,
book a flight for your family and go
through it in real time.


16 posted on 11/17/2010 10:46:32 AM PST by CaptainPhilFan
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To: markomalley

This is too funny, like these pat downs will be the pat downs they give to the public by the perverts. Anyone get their crotch a pat down? X-ray them all - they need the full effect.

Let them pat down and x-ray barry’s daughters and televise it.


17 posted on 11/17/2010 10:46:42 AM PST by presently no screen name ("Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down.." Mark 7:13)
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To: markomalley

No matter what kind of bullshit dog and pony show this NAZI Pistole puts on for Congress, the elite ruling class will never be subjected to the humiliation and threats us lowlife tax livestock will be subjected to.

We draw the line here, or we no longer even own our own bodies.

If these “security procedures” are the best our enlightened ruling class can come up with to deal with MUSLIM TERRORISM then they need to be replaced with competent people.


18 posted on 11/17/2010 10:48:27 AM PST by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: markomalley

While they have Cholera going through Haiti we have insanity going through Washington.


19 posted on 11/17/2010 10:51:31 AM PST by RoadTest (Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you.)
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To: markomalley

Start with Mikulski.


20 posted on 11/17/2010 10:53:53 AM PST by DPMD (~)
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To: DPMD

Senator Claire McCaskell just called them “security love pats.” How nice! One wonders just how Claire would like to be “love patted?” My guess is that it’s a task even a TSA employee would refuse.


21 posted on 11/17/2010 11:00:27 AM PST by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: markomalley
Pistole told a separate panel of senators yesterday that the pat-down technique is so thorough that, had it been used, it would have thwarted ...

Nonsense. Full body cavity search will be the norm once the jihadist nutjobs figure out how to use suppositories smoother than cornhusks.

22 posted on 11/17/2010 11:16:02 AM PST by brucebrucebruceoftheforest (George got jungle rot.)
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To: markomalley

The sheer innanity of this “security protocol” is galling, and it’s good to see that some people are making a stink about it.

But I don’t think it’s going to do any good at all to complain about the inconvenience without also noting that significant security issues remain utterly unaddressed.

We simply have to be willing to speak the truth: we have to look for the bomber as well as the bomb. Even more so. Yes, some innocent people “matching the profile” will be unfairly singled out. Yes, some could still slip through a poorly designed (or even the best designed) system.

But we don’t need to surrender our principles, or our health (ionizing radiation anyone?), or our privacy to get an adequate level of security. We just have to take security seriously, and hold our “leaders” to account.


23 posted on 11/17/2010 11:17:28 AM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You can never do more, you should never wish to do less.)
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To: markomalley

Any Senator serious about the truth will fly with the masses, so he can not be recognized by the screened. Let everyone on the subcommittee go through it a dozen times until they have adequate data about reality.


24 posted on 11/17/2010 11:23:11 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Beelzebubba

I say make Pistole go through a full body cavity search every time he comes to testify then schedule him for a full month of testimony. Then he can start making offers to senators.


25 posted on 11/17/2010 11:26:45 AM PST by JMS
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To: markomalley

The TSA had BETTER NOT say to Sen Boxer: “Step over here, Ma’am.”


26 posted on 11/17/2010 11:29:07 AM PST by SERKIT (TSA-Form 2 Lines: Irradiation or Humiliation)
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To: markomalley

Anyone think that Congress would get the same treatment as the rest of us. They’d get a little pt then scold the rest of us getting the TSA real treatment.


27 posted on 11/17/2010 12:04:44 PM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: markomalley

when he gets ‘round to patting down Al Franken can we have it televised? (say NBC, Saturday night, after 11:30...)


28 posted on 11/17/2010 12:16:53 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: spodefly

It’s going to get worse. They plan on rolling this out for all public transportation. Trains, subways, buses atc.


29 posted on 11/17/2010 12:21:04 PM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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To: markomalley

"Oooh! Oooo! Me first!!!"

31 posted on 11/17/2010 12:22:09 PM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: markomalley

This whole reasonableness thing is a theme with statists.

Reasonable gun-control and now reasonable 4th Amendment violations.

Did he explain how they’ve done nothing and prevented nothing?


32 posted on 11/17/2010 12:26:30 PM PST by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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To: markomalley
The Senate missed an opportunity to put Pistole through a Senate simulation of the full airport screening process with the same amount of privacy and in full view of the que of visitors trying to get into the Senate office building.
33 posted on 11/17/2010 12:55:44 PM PST by Truth29
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To: markomalley

Barney Frank isn’t a senator but I’m sure he would gladly volunteer.


34 posted on 11/17/2010 1:45:32 PM PST by capt. norm (Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups.)
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To: vette6387

More to the point, forget McCaskill; how would she like her children or grandchildren to be groped by strangers?


35 posted on 11/18/2010 12:23:16 PM PST by DPMD (~)
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