Skip to comments.Homeless Woman Charged in LA Train Track Death(pushes elderly woman on tracks)
Posted on 11/17/2010 10:46:27 AM PST by mainestategop
LOS ANGELES (Nov. 16) -- Betty Sugiyama was rushing to catch a train for a shopping trip when authorities say the unthinkable happened: A homeless woman leapt from a bench and shoved her onto the tracks.
Witnesses said the woman then calmly returned to her seat as Sugiyama writhed in pain on the tracks with a cracked skull. The 84-year-old Little Tokyo resident died soon after, and the suspect was arrested on murder charges.
A sister of Sugiyama who witnessed the attack remained stunned Tuesday that anyone would want to kill her friendly younger sibling, a Japanese-American who had grown up in the shadow of World War II and was sent to an internment camp as a child.
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A friend of mine lives near that hell hole and was even homeless there.
Sheriff's deputies arrived moments after the attack and arrested Jackkqueline Pogue. Prosecutors on Tuesday charged her with murder.
He also told me of Jackkque (Is that how her name is spelled!? WTF?) This woman is nuts. She has been kicked out of every SRO and shelter in LA. (How that is possible I dunno!) She goes around the trains and the stations panhandling and begging, sometimes assaulting people if they don't give her any money. She assaulted an 80 year old man in Pershing square a couple years ago, LAPD did little partly because she was insane, He also saw her assault a hispanic woman on the red line going from Vine to downtown because she wouldnt give her any money.
What really makes me angry is that I am doing an article for my blog about how a High School graduate was involuntarily commited because according to doctors and liberal government, she was peculiar. She had her whole future taken from her just like that! Just because some libtard thought it was for her own good. Meanwhile we got insane bums running around skid row robbing, begging and being a nuisance and then THIS happens! WE HAVE LAWS ON THE BOOKS PEOPLE! THE NEW LPS ACT MADE IN 2008 WAS SUPPPOSED TO HAVE PUT THIS WOMAN IN AN INSTITUTION AND GET HER MEDICATED AND THEN ON OUTPATIENT REFERAL!
Instead they go after a high school student, lock her up, chuck her out into the streets and destroy everything she worked hard to accomplish.
No wonder America isn't in Bible prophecy. I am just so angry.
Mentally disordered, psychotic homeless people must be allowed to walk unhindered wherever they wish to go in our society. They must be allowed full, unquestioned access to libraries, train stations, shopping malls and store entrances. They serve to remind us all of the heartless, cruel, inhuman nature of the dog-eat-dog, individualistic hell that is Amerika.
I saw plenty of those creatures When I was in Europe. Yet the European Peons all say that they do no wrong with their socialism.
I used to live in downtown Long Beach and would say that half the homeless wondering around there should have been committed to a mental institution. Had one woman that would camp across the street from my condo and keep us up half the night with her cackling and conversation between her and her dolls. But thanks to the ACLU these people can’t be committed for more than three days. Sucks, usually they’re harmless but as you can see not always.
For the love of me I don’t know how the Japanese put up with living near that S**t. I can only imagine how they put up with beggars purse snatchers and crackheads wandering around there.
I think you both pretty well nailed this down for me.
You know, I don’t like seeing people who have survived so much to be taken out this way. She was eighty-four. While she had lived a full life, it’s just sad to see her ended this way particularly in front of her sister.
She was out enjoying life, and some sub-human found it reasoned to murder her on a whim.
With this one all the warning bells had sounded too.
I know what you’re talking about. I Work close-by in DT L.A. on the weekends and it’s like night and day..
The border street is where the black homeless just litter around while Little Tokyo demarcation line looks like heaven compared to hell on the other side. The Japanese residents did their job on beautifying their own community while the homeless have no qualms destroying theirs.
There was even one time I consulted for a “well known” video games distributor and they are located..in a well fortified compound in Skid Row (due to cheap rent). You have no choice but to stay in your car to enter the compound and right outside, an angry-looking mob just stares at you..I pity those employees who have to commute there.
Another of the manifold benefits of deinstitutionalization
Not when I lived there. May have happened though because they are putting a lot of effort into revitalizing the downtown area. Certainly the marina area has really gone up since I lived there but it’s hard to do when gangland central for LB is right next to downtown and the gang bangers like to go somewhere nice every once in a while.
I used to live in Scottsdale, AZ. We had a homeless guy in the park by the house. His name was Chico or Pico. He used to sing Tex Mex songs all night. It played havoc with my golf game. Every time I missed the fairway due to lack of sleep - I would curse Pico.
“Sheriff’s deputies arrived moments after the attack and arrested Jackkqueline Pogue. Prosecutors on Tuesday charged her with murder.
Los Angeles County sheriff’s Lt. David Coleman said investigators were trying to establish a motive. He said it was unclear if Pogue, 44, is mentally ill or if she had been using drugs, but she seemed coherent when detectives spoke with her.”
I wonder if this “homeless person” is black. It’s awful to say that but blacks KNOW they can get a free pass on punishment. Obama has pushed race relations back 100 years.
So what is Jackkqueline Pogue?
Yes, it is clear America will be irrelevant. We can see why. Just look at the headlines and how Obama is making us impotent as a world power, morally depraved and financially destroying U.S.. Yes, this makes me very angry too. It is horrendous.
So what is Jackkqueline Pogue?
As I mentioned before a crazy psycho who has been banned from every shelter and SRO in LA. It sounds impossible but from what he told me there are people just like this. There was even a Japanese woman who behaved like a 2 year old with a tantrum and would stomp her feet and shout "LEAVE ME ALONE! YOU AMERICANS LAZY! LEAVE ME ALONE!" She also got kicked out everywhere except the Midnight mission.
Anyway, she camps out on the subway, she panhandles and gets made whenever someone refuses to give her change and assaults them. LAPD wont do anything about it. Even THEY can't get rid of her so it comes down to this, waiting for her to push an elderly woman in front of the train.
Anything can be abused, but there are people blubbering on the street who cannot take care of themselves and are a threat to others. Far, far more of them than people locked away by malicous relatives.
I concur, the courts should appoint an independent trustee, especially in cases where substantial funds are involved. My MiL was completely out of it and living in a nursing home for years when her husband moved to be appointed her guardian. (She really didn’t have any money.) She apparently wanted to leave the nursing home and come home, but she was physically and mentally incapable of taking care of herself and far too much of a handful for an elderly man.
Thank the Dems during Reagan who defunded the mental institutions. Worked out great huh?
 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.
The ‘King of the South’ are the Arab nations, the ‘King of the North’ is Russia. ‘Him’ refers to Israel, so the passage clearly describes an attack by these forces on Israel. It also shows how the ‘end of time’ will occur after this war.
Looking at Ezekiel 38:5-7 that you refer to has a different statement.
 Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
 Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.
 Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.
The nations involved are describe in Ezekiel 38: 5-7 are
Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them. Persia is the site of Iran. Gomer and Togarmah are the sites of Turkey. All of these nations are Arab.
BTW Magog is present day Russia. Edom, Moab, Ammon part of modern Jordan and Egypt. It is clear that the “king of the South” are king of the South Arab countries of the Middle East.
The “Kings of the East” is Asia and the most powerful of that group is China.
You can see it shaping up now. Iran is friendly with Russia. China is becoming an economic and MILITARY might. Islam is a worldwide problem and America is shriveling up economically, morally and in influence. Most likely America if it’s around will fold up under what’s left of the EU.
Do you remember who is largely responsible for overturning the laws to commit truly insane people?
It appears that unaccomplished blacks have little tolerance for Asians that are typically more accomplished.
I'd bet you this is a “hate crime” but you know how it is. It's ONLY a “hate crime” if it's WHITE on BLACK. As I said Obama has stirred up NEGATIVE race relations through his winking at the New Black Panthers and other crimes. It's never the fault of the black person.
That must have been horrific beyond words to see your sister murdered in such a gruesome way right in front of you. My heart goes out to this Japanese family and others that loved this woman.
Why, yes, as a matter of fact I do.
lol...you’re not going to state the name? How does anyone know you do know?
¨Welcome to The United States.¨
I'm supposed to care what you know, or what "anyone" knows? LOL all you want.
“Mentally disordered, psychotic homeless people must be allowed to walk unhindered wherever they wish to go in our society”.....
As all good liberals would have it....
Geez...who peed in your cheerios? I thought you were kidding around by being coy. As it is no one would care what you know.
>>Psychotic homeless people cannot to allowed to roam around. They need to be put in asylums, for their own good and everyone Else’s.<<
Smoke whatever drug is handy when you’re young. Sniff anything and everything to stay stoned during midlife. Then expect me to pay for your room and board in an asylum when you can’t cope anymore or become a nuisance to society in your later years. BS! Am I being clear enough? BULLSHIT!
Instead of playing games, why don’t you just go ahead and tell us all who, in your opinion, was “largely responsible for overturning the laws to commit truly insane people.”
You are a nasty individual or you are in a nasty mood. Really just drop it. You showed what an ass you are earlier and you don’t care what I think as you so clearly stated.
You won't answer the question you yourself posed. Then you respond by calling names. This is the sort of thing that a troll would do, but since I haven't paid attention to your posts in the past, I don't have enough information to come to a conclusion on that. Unlike yourself.
Of course, you could just post an answer to your own question; that might shed some light on what is on your mind.
Failing that, you could tell me what I said that was "nasty." What, precisely, did I say that "shows what an ass I am." The record is right here, in black and white.
Failing that... Well, we know where that leaves you, don't we?
There were a lot of people responsible for this BTW. The ACLU, Some group in Wisconsin I don't remember but they represented some woman named Lesard or something, The Supreme courts, the doctors themselves, Alex Jones, Jimmy Carter and Richard Nixon, ETC. Yes even Reagan bless his soul when he was governor of California did that along with a few other stupid things. But were all human.
Well, what should be done with them?
I know you mean well but the answer is no. You would have to review the posts between Tom and me to put into context.
A truly troll-like answer to someone who's trying to help you swim out of this with some dignity.
So what's the answer to the question you posed, and what did I say that was "nasty" and that that "shows what an ass I am" ?
Let them fend for themselves. I have seen people that one would consider to be ignorant die with hundreds of thousands of dollars in the bank. How did they do it? They worked. That’s right, worked, from the time they were just children until they had to retire.
I don’t have an iota of sympathy for people who abuse drugs or live their life sucking on the taxpayers tit while refusing to get a job. Parasites is what I call them and given the chance I’d exterminate them. Weak minded liberals are the people who believe we should feed these rats - so they can continue breeding and infesting society.
Well of course. They aren’t people. Like yourself.
“Are there no poorhouses? Are there no workshops?”
>>Well of course. They arent people. Like yourself.
Are there no poorhouses? Are there no workshops?<<
Where does self reliance fit into your lifestyle? Are you on four different social programs or do you take care of your problems yourself?
Illegal aliens disgust me because they are parasites. Nothing more.
A couple of times in my life when business slowed down I was laid off and applied for unemployment insurance but I’ve never collected it because I hustled my butt and got another job within a few days.
Then when I became self employed I understood that taking care of the customer was of the utmost importance because s/he decided if I was going to have a reason to get out of bed in the morning.
I am not somebody who has ever relied on the government to take care of my needs and I get sick at the thought of able people who refuse to work.
Then there’s the drug and alcohol addicts whom I have no use for whatsoever.
Funny you ask that.
I have a disability. I’ve collected neither welfare, nor disability, nor unemployment insurance, despite the fact that I’ve paid into and qualify for all.
“Illegal aliens disgust me because they are parasites.”
They have broken the law by coming into the US without proper papers. I agree with you that they should return where they came. But they are still persons, not parasites.
“Then theres the drug and alcohol addicts whom I have no use for whatsoever.”
Life has a funny way of making us reconsider ourselves. Look, I agree that people should be able to take care of themselves, but as you so duly noted, your employment depended on how you provided a service to the community. No community, no business.
We are all in a sense dependent on one another, and through charity are called to assist each other in this strange journey called life.
Remember that other line? “Life was our business!”
Actually, not quite right.
“Mankind was my business. The common welfare was my business; charity, mercy, forbearance, and benevolence, were, all, my business. The dealings of my trade were but a drop of water in the comprehensive ocean of my business!”
“Do you remember who is largely responsible for overturning the laws to commit truly insane people? “ I don’t know the answer and the suspense is killing me. Please tell. thx!
In traveling throughout the world where there is no poorhouses or work shops or social programs I’ve seen people with all sorts of disabilities performing tasks that I never would have assumed was possible for such a person to do. Here in America we are taught that if someone has a broken finger they should not have to show up for work but should receive full pay and of course not be penalized in any manner for their absence.
I use a wheel chair to get around if I have any distance to traverse. I don’t ask people to open doors or assist me in getting into my truck perhaps because I want to show them that disabled persons such as myself can do a lot of things without assistance. I want them to push and prod relatives that are also disabled to do more for themselves instead of calling on a convenient social program to provide for them.
The people who work at the social programs encourage disabled people to use their services because that provides them with employment. Politicians encourage people to use them because that results in larger budgets for them to squander. It pisses me off when I see the waste in my city budget that politicians consider absolutely necessary. Supporting parasites is not an absolutely necessity.
I admire guys like Sheriff Joe Arapio who work on a threadbare budget because it is taxpayers money. He know criminals can live in tents because our servicemen have been doing it for years. The local, state and federal politicians would prefer to build humongous air conditioned prisons with earmark money because it provides jobs.
We are in serious trouble as a nation.
Earning a living is what I expect from people who want to live. Performing necessary tasks is what I want to see them doing, not coddling their local parasites. Self reliance is a MUST in our character if we expect this nation to continue to grow.
Agree wholeheartedly. I am deaf, but I teach. I was shocked to find out that the average person with my hearing reads at a 3rd grade level.
The whole ‘system’ has failed. To top it off, when I went to university, I dealt with their ‘disability resource center’. Want to guess what the number one disability they dealt with?
The same one that permitted extra time in exams. ADHD. 80 percent of their caseload. How many of these students would be ashamed that people with actual disabilities perform at a higher level with no accommodation?
It’s all a scam while the people who really do need help are ignored.
I have noticed the flavor of your post has changed tremendously. No more grousing about how the unfortunate deserve our care.
>>Agree wholeheartedly. I am deaf, but I teach. I was shocked to find out that the average person with my hearing reads at a 3rd grade level.<<
If they have community leaders who will pay their bills, feed them, clean their homes and wipe their butts where is the need to read above a 3rd grade level? This is considered providing jobs to the community to most politicians.
ADHD is a chosen disability. Chosen by liberals because it is a great one that cannot be medicated without disabling the patient. It’s like smoking weed. Take a little bit too much and the medications slow you down to where you almost cannot function on your own.
That is wonderful because now the community is responsible for your welfare. This requires a team of educated people who are not inexpensive.....the bigger budget you control the more authority is given to you.
Have you ever listened to the false congratulations given to children who have outgrown the ‘illness’? We’ll be here if you have any difficulty adapting. Be sure to stop in occasionally for a check up.
Have they ever gotten around to checking patients diets and perhaps cutting the level of sugars or has the soft drink industry seen that such research will never happen?
Take care and stay safe.
They do deserve our care. I don’t consider the ADHD scammers as among the ‘unfortunate’.
“Yup, she is black.”
Did this atrocity take polace because she is black?
Or because she is a homeless crazy person who should be institutionalized, for the overall good and wellbeing of the greater community?
I have seen plenty of crazy homeless white people.
You have seen the statistics whereby 2/3 of homeless are alcoholic/addicts and/or mentally ill?
You mean Bandai on 7th street? I remember driving by that place last time I was in LA. What were they thinking putting it next to a restaurant and Gospel mission?