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Pilot Howard Pinkham, US Airways First Officer Refuses Grope
Fed Up Flyers ^ | Today | Pinkham

Posted on 11/17/2010 3:43:35 PM PST by jessduntno

I am a Usairways pilot with hip replacements. I am unable to successfully pass through a metal detector. For approx. 5 years I have been questioned, wanded and patted down every morning each day I report for work. Ive asked for help with a solution, I’ve been through all the company and union channels to no avail. Approx. 1 year ago, I encountered something new called a groin check. This is where they run the back of their hands down your fly from top to bottom 1 inch to eother side. I said I would allow this if they dont touch my stuff. The screener accused me of being a “homophobe” and said he cant guarantee he wont touch me in this area. I said then I can’t go through the check. I called the airline for direction and they agreed to assist me in finding a solution if I would JUST take the flight out. I allowed him his groin check and was so humiliated and enraged that I was pretty much useless in the cockpit, I was self absorbed. Fortunately my Captain could see this and just picked up my duties also and never said a word. I called the union about this and they informed me that I NEVER have to let someone touch me there, that that is wrong. They also reminded me of my obligation to remain fit for duty in our flight ops manual as well as federal aviation regulations and should I find myself in a similar situation again, dont fly. Well, I noticed that this groin check kept popping up more and more often until I forced myself to accept it and block it out. [i.e. go to work on the flight deck of an airplane full of passengers -ed.]

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: tsa; tsapervs
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To: jessduntno

“Oh mercy, can’t someone help that poor man?”

They said you was hung! And they was RIGHT!

(Where the white women at?)


21 posted on 11/17/2010 3:59:35 PM PST by Tigerized (pursuingliberty.com)
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To: jessduntno
For the first time, it occurred to me that it’s humiliation, not embarrassment, that causes anger.

Sounds like someone in the administration wants Americans to suffer payback for Abu Ghraib.

22 posted on 11/17/2010 4:00:42 PM PST by stayathomemom (Beware of cat attacks while typing!)
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To: jessduntno
Wear this:


23 posted on 11/17/2010 4:01:59 PM PST by I see my hands (How's that ballot box working out for you?)
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To: jessduntno

It’s not a phobia, it’s an actual disgust of a serious perversion that is eating at the core of decent society like a maggot.


24 posted on 11/17/2010 4:03:20 PM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: jessduntno

For the screeners to be able to detect explosives, that means that they must know what a normal groin area feels like. I wonder what it says on the job application:
“Have you felt (your sex) groin areas before? Do you know what a normal (your sex) groin area feels like?”
That kinda excludes the vast majority of people, and opens the job to a small segment of the population, say about 1%.

Or maybe there is on the job training with (same sex) anatomically correct crash dummies.

Madness.


25 posted on 11/17/2010 4:03:37 PM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Annoying liberals is my goal. I will not be silenced.)
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To: jessduntno

There’s a simple solution to this.

Just make it an option for the man being searched to select a very attractive female to do the pat down!

It would help the economy also. Guys would be flying all over the place.


26 posted on 11/17/2010 4:03:50 PM PST by precisionshootist
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To: battlecry

I agree. I have had cancer. No one on either side of my family has ever had cancer that we can find. When I was a baby; I had radiation to remove a birthmark. This could have been the reason why.


27 posted on 11/17/2010 4:04:29 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: jessduntno

This is what happens when we let idiots control our government.


28 posted on 11/17/2010 4:04:37 PM PST by 386wt
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To: jessduntno

Simply go to local Law Enforcement and file a formal sexual assualt complaint everytime this happens. Once TSA agents are constantly under investigation/possible arrest and prosecution under local and state law; who’ll want to work for TSA?


29 posted on 11/17/2010 4:05:30 PM PST by JohnKinAK
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To: jessduntno

I think I will just start laughing and when they ask, “What’s so funny?”, I’ll just say, “I’m just thinking of the laughs I’ll get when I tell the guys how easy it is to get TSA agents to play with my junk.”

TSA: Are you calling me a homosexual.
Passenger: No, but I’m not the one with my junk in his hands. By the way, am I supposed to leave a tip?

They cannot humiliate you if you humiliate them first.


30 posted on 11/17/2010 4:08:32 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: jessduntno
Can you just strip in front of these @ssholes instead of having them play with you?

ML/NJ

31 posted on 11/17/2010 4:09:48 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: jessduntno
This guy should be getting a medal.

The guy who said, "I allowed him his groin check" should get a medal?

Save some medals for the guys who get arrested or lose their jobs for resisting.

32 posted on 11/17/2010 4:09:59 PM PST by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast (Starve the beast. Save the liver!)
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To: jessduntno

I imagine any sort of refusal or remark will put you on the “No Fly List”


33 posted on 11/17/2010 4:12:56 PM PST by Cheapskate (Play loud and carry BIG sticks!)
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To: jessduntno

If Conservatives had first instituted this policy the Leftists, Big Media, NPR and the Newspapers would be screaming bloody murder.


34 posted on 11/17/2010 4:13:40 PM PST by originalbuckeye
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To: jessduntno

http://www.zug.com/live?func=view_thread&thread_id=68619

Shakes on a Plane

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“My question was this: are the security checks really any more effective? To find out, I decided to re-enact the classic scene from the 1984 movie This is Spinal Tap, where bassist Derek Smalls puts a foil-lined cucumber down his pants, which is picked up by the security wand. Only I decided to go one better, by putting a buzzing vibrator down my pants.”

“You know I was sweating cheeseburgers as I waited for the guy to return. We stood there awkwardly, while my crotch hummed a one-note tune. It was a muffled drone, like someone using a weed wacker in a neighboring township.”

http://www.zug.com/live/74827/Undressing-at-Airport-Security.html

Salad Dressing In The Pants

“Calmly, I reached down into that unstable barrel of atomic liquid and grabbed my salad dressing. Then I calmly boarded the moving walkway, and stuffed the salad dressing down my pants. The TSA lets you keep things there, apparently.”


35 posted on 11/17/2010 4:13:40 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: jessduntno
Imagine there was no TSA and this screening was being done by the airlines. Imagine the government's response to a private company like Delta subjecting its passengers to this kind of treatment.

We are way over the edge now...

36 posted on 11/17/2010 4:13:49 PM PST by Senator_Blutarski
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To: stayathomemom
Sounds like someone in the administration wants Americans to suffer payback for Abu Ghraib.

I have come to the same conclusion. We are being ruled by a mob of Moslem apologists. The State Department. The Justice Department. The Department of Homeland Security. But most of all, the White House.

A new rebellion is brewing, to rival the rebellion launched by the Stamp Act.
37 posted on 11/17/2010 4:15:34 PM PST by Tzfat
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To: jessduntno

Yeah, I have an artificial knee. I get pulled over all the time and meanwhile watch others walk past that didn’t even take off a belt ... but they didn’t buzz the scanner. So they walk on by and I get a full body pat. With the scanners they’ll be able to easily see the knee (hell, its solid steel!) so they would know what it was, pull me aside and wand me (yep, its an artificial knee). Then pat down the REST of me that didn’t show or wand a problem. It just isn’t right.


38 posted on 11/17/2010 4:15:45 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (You are just jealous because the voices aren't talking to YOU!)
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To: jessduntno

Can anyone explain why a pilot would need anything other than an identity check?


39 posted on 11/17/2010 4:15:54 PM PST by 3niner (When Obama succeeds, America fails.)
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To: jessduntno
Want to stir up some real stuff? If you're to be groped, make sure that you ask for someone of the same race; i.e. if you are white and the TSA person is black or vice-versa, demand that a white person do the pat down.

After all, being a racist may be vile but it's not illegal. That should start some really fun stuff (works especially well in "redneck" states")

OK, sarcasm tag attached to avoid Viking Kitty attack.

40 posted on 11/17/2010 4:16:57 PM PST by par4
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