Skip to comments.Profile Muslims or Pat Down the Masses?
Posted on 11/18/2010 3:11:11 AM PST by Scanian
With all the bad press the TSA has received recently, we can't be sure if the acronym stands for Transportation Security Administration, Touches Sensitive Areas, or Truly Scandalous Attention. But, for sure, its pat-downs and sci-fi radiation screeners give many of us another good reason to avoid the increasingly unfriendly skies. Yet while the TSA right now has supplanted the IRS as the bureaucracy we most love to hate, its policies are merely part of a longstanding cultural trend: the failure to recognize that the good of the many outweighs the good of the few.
It's the same reason why certain cities, most notably London, are now surveilling their residents with thousands of video cameras. If you're not willing to administer punishment sufficient to deter all the criminally inclined save a few intractable miscreants, some of whom you can catch, the only other solution is to have an all-seeing Big Brother that can catch all. It's much like treating a cancer: If you cannot target just the affected tissue, the only other solution is to treat the whole body.
Because the former is preferable not just in medicine, but also law enforcement, behavioral sciences specialists long ago developed the method called "profiling." Unfortunately, social-engineering specialists soon after discredited the universal application of profiling with a method called propaganda. Consequently, when we want to administer targeted treatment in the effort to thwart terrorism, we're told that it's "racial profiling" and beyond consideration. This is utter nonsense.
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Someone needs to do a political cartoon showing and old lady being patted down as Osama bin Laden passes through un touched or questioned
What is the most effective way to get Americans pissed off, willing to be victims for court cases, willing to openly oppose the TSA, and opting out of airline travel, willing to make agencies all along the tourism path lose money and to further hurt the economy?
OBAMA WANTS TO KNOW
Maybe Soros gets all the sexy scans to leer at with his commie sons, since helped pay for the scanner development.
We are being subjected to this because TSA has failed miserably to prevent ‘undesirables’ from getting on planes from outside the USA and attempting to wreak havoc on us, US.
The crotch bomber had no passport, no luggage, a one way ticket paid in cash, and was coming to Detroit in December wearing only a sweatshirt. AND, his father had warned the authorities that his son had been radicalized and was planning to cause harm.
I think the "Thinker" has it backwards. The "cultural trend", more accurately decline, is based on the failure to recognize that our Country is based on individual rights, not group rights. Affirmative action, the victim culture, and even the disgrace at our airports is a result of denying individuals their rights for the good of the "group".
This is wrong and anti-American.
When you leave the screener job up to dumbasses, you can expect dumbass results.
Fortunately, the Crotch Bomber and the Shoe Bomber, to name two, were even dumber.
Keeping the airlines safe is not a job for AA hires.
I think he is hitting on favoritism toward a protected minority over the needs of the majority in US society.
Videos of the screeners stealing from the passengers, looking away from monitors, etc. you just KNOW that luck is all that has kept us safe since the maoist was elected.
Millions upon millions of homeland security dollars to NY and we had a street vendor notice a smoking auto parked illegally in the theater district. No police officer noticed or bothered to investigate.
New Year’s Eve a rookie cop noticed a van that had been parked in Times Square illegally for days. Fake license plates, windows covered with black trash bags, etc. That van had been there for DAYS.
If Times Square doesn’t get priority attention why give NYC another dime for security.
Time for another “DC to NY: ‘Drop Dead’” headline.
No more funding of incompetence to achieve a particular social outcome (Airing AA losers. A redistributionist policy).
“...TSA has failed miserably to prevent undesirables from getting on planes from outside the USA...”
This is a very important point that most people don’t seem to get. The TSA is always responding to the last threat with their procedures, instead of using available intelligence to accurately profile and intercept high risk individuals.
Those Saudis who attended the Florida flight school were very suspicious in that they had no interest in learning how to land, just take off, cruise, and navigate to a fixed target. But since there was a Clinton government mandated firewall preventing information sharing between federal law enforcement agencies, they (mostly) succeeded in the 9/11 attacks. Remember Jamie Gorlick? Like Janet Reno, I don’t remember her feet ever being held to the fire over this.
The Flight 93 hijack didn’t succeed because a handful of average Americans decided against passivity (as advised by our superiors up until then) and got involved, and thwarted the terrorists’ plans.
The terrorists are not stupid. And now they’ve successfully continued their jihad against Americans by using the TSA to effectively punish each and every one of us who has the audacity to fly.
And once again, it will up to the common sense of the average American to set things right. It’s obvious from the comments of Congress that they still don’t get it.
That would be racist/sarc
How outrageous of slovenly sis to say that the ‘system worked’ after the passengers wrestled the crotch bomber into submission and poured water on him to put out the fire.
And underwear, of course :)
Seriously, your point is well taken.
He fit the profile to a T. He should have been detained, and not allowed to board.
John Gibson was all over this yesterday on his radio show.
America, please RISE ABOVE THE TRAP OF PORN CULTURE YOU HAVE FALLEN INTO.
The major reason that people are willing to support these searches, imo, from reviewing thousands of reactions on YouTube videos and many blog, is that common porn culture has debased the ability of too many to object on a proper spiritual basis. It is showing as the inability to object to that which is morally intolerable in a morally tolerable way.
When a third or more of comments are expressing a joy in either being felt up, or a desire to further debase the process by undressing, making even more rude comments, or snaky comments about the “junk” of others — that’s a clue. A further clue is in that half or more of the comments on the non-moderated blogs and You Tube readily resort to profanities.
A debased culture may be unable to reject official policies that further the debasement. I pray this is not the case. And in any case, no moral person accepts such excuses but instead picks up the sword and buckler and strides onward.
If you profile, you must profile.
America has implemented a no profile policy to protect the criminal black culture. Black criminals have become exempt because they are culturally protected by their leaders who insist there is no harm.
America suffers so the criminal black culture can be protected. Terrorist Islamic mideasterners get a pass to protect the black community.
Not watching TV or listening to the radio for more than a few minutes at a time, it’s heartening to know I’m not inventing unreasonable conclusions to the world around us these days.
Personal issues take precedence these days. sigh.
Frankly I am sick and tired of NY’s congressman Peter King with his endless demands for more money more money more money for NYers. There is no end to his demanding attention, all the while praising bubbaclinton as his new best friend.
Excuse me. But if bubba hadn’t been so busy with the cigars we might have put a stop to these attacks years ago.
BTW, I intended to write “hiring” AA losers. Not “airing” them.
Actually, a lot of them ought to be tossed out in the cold.
It would not be racial profiling. The violent, savage political movement cleverly disguised as a religion accepts people of all races.
If there were a reliable way to detect a passenger’s ideology, I would be in favor.
Here is an idea. Offer everone as they approach the plane a piece of bacon. If they eat it, they board, if not they get scanned, wanned, patted, orifice searched, fillings Xrayed, Colonoscopied, held for 72 hours while every bit of crap that comes out is scanned, tested chemically, and Xrayed. Then they can board.
The Israelis seem to have found a way:
Talk to the buggers. Learn to identify liars.
When was the last time El Al had a bombing or a highjacking?
We know who wants to do us harm they should be isolated, searched and questioned.
Let’s just hand everyone a piece of bacon as the are in line to board the plane. After swollowing it and renouncing Mohammed as a pedophile and murderer they can board.
Your anti semitic views fail to consider there are many besides Muslims who eschew pork.
I have the solution. Don’t let Muslims fly
Remember the imortal words of Pistole, "we are risk based and intelligence driven." You cannot make this stuff up.
These clueless idiots have no honor. They have no honor. In days gone by good citizens would have chased folk like this around town with a horsewhip then tarred and feathered them and run them out of town.
Brain dead and anti-America as well.
I find I often invent more unreasonable conclusions the more TV I watch.
I probably should say that I don't think Gibson was specifically talking about the "Crotch Bomber", (at least when I was listening) but rather, using profiling as a means to more efficiently determine which passengers should be subjected to more invasive screenings and/or detention.
That is a great cartoon, and pretty much what I had in mind.
How many more red flags could there have been on the crotch bomber.
What has happened to our country makes me sick.
All this insanity was promulgated by slick willie and his grifter wife. To think that Jamie Gorelick was on the 9/11 Commission..........
There was nothing anti-semitic about that post. Requiring the consumption of pork products guarentees that every moslem will be defiled when on board the plane. A deflie moslem goes to hell when he dies. What person would willingly give up his 72 virgins just to blow up a plane when he knows he is defiled?
There is the issue of how do we handle the Jews. I don't really have a good answer. I seem to remember, from my reading of the scriptures, that they are only unclean until sundown when they eat non-kosher. A small sacrifice to make to be totally safe on the plane.
Fortunately the number of dietary observant Jews is pretty small compared to the number of moslem terrorists.
It is amazing. The other troubling thing is that the TSA screeners/scanners/pat downs/whatever didn't seem to pierce the disguise of that person in the old guy mask.
See my reply #16 on the now locked thread.
TSA should take over the old Allstate Insurance motto:
You’re in good hands with TSA.
Or the newer one:
TSA, the good hands people.
They take away our 4th amendment rights because they don’t want to profile. They say that if it save one life, it’s worth destroying the Constitution.
Why don’t they lower the speed limit to ten mph? That will save 10’s of thousands of lifes each year.
BECAUSE YOU WOULD REVOLT. That is what controls these b**tards.
What if they are Jewish?
If someone is willing to put a bomb up their butt, don’t you think they would also be willing to eat a piece of bacon to complete their mission?
Did he go through TSA, or foreign security before boarding?
If you were a terrorist, would you choose the airline with the tightest security, or the weakest? I don’t believe terrorists fly El-Al very much.
What if they lied and ate it anyway?
??? What if the said the were a different religion or lied?
Don’t you think someone willing to put a bomb in their butt, would be willing to eat a piece of bacon to complete his mission?
Do they have TSA screeners at the Hong Kong airport?
Absolutely not. The whole reason they do a suicide bombing is to be made a martyr. Instant trip to heaven and 72 virgins all their own. EXCEPT if they are defiled at the time of their death. Then they go straight to hell.
So by keeping them defiled when on the plane they have no incentive to die on the plane. They can't claim their virgins so why bother with the attack.
Why bother? To fulfill their mission.
I disagree, but since neither one of us is a Muslim suicide terrorist, I’ll stick with what I believe, and you, with what you believe.
I apologize. I forgot that practicing Jews as well as some Christians also avoid pork.
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