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Cops bust seven men playing chess in upper Manhattan park
NY Post ^ | November 18, 2010 | PERRY CHIARAMONTE, JAMIE SCHRAM and DAN MANGAN

Posted on 11/18/2010 5:48:50 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia

Drop that bishop and come out with your hands up!

A squad of cops in bulletproof vests swooped into an upper Manhattan park and charged seven men with the "crime" of playing chess in an area off-limits to adults unaccompanied by kids -- even though no youngsters were there.

"Is chess really something that should be considered a threat to the neighborhood?" Inwood resident and mom Joanne Johnson wrote Mayor Bloomberg, the City Council and Police Commissioner Ray Kelly after the raid.

"This incident is an embarrassment to the officers from the 34th Precinct who felt that it was necessary to use their badge and authority to issue such a random summons."

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: New York
KEYWORDS: chess; manhattan
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1 posted on 11/18/2010 5:48:53 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

That’s an odd number (literally), did one get away?


2 posted on 11/18/2010 5:51:02 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

It’s about time the NYPD put these criminals in check.


3 posted on 11/18/2010 5:54:26 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

One thing for sure, you can’t play chess when there ARE kids around.

Cops like soft targets. The DA probably needed some white guys to get busted to keep the stats balanced.


4 posted on 11/18/2010 5:54:47 AM PST by Liberty Ship ("Lord, make me fast and accurate.")
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Nurse Bloomburg strikes again.


5 posted on 11/18/2010 5:55:26 AM PST by sauropod (The truth shall make you free but first it will make you miserable.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Ba-dum-bump.


6 posted on 11/18/2010 5:55:30 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia (Forcing one person to pay for the irresponsibility of another is NOT social justice.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Sounds like an overly ambitious Rookie mistake.


7 posted on 11/18/2010 5:55:43 AM PST by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
A squad of cops in bulletproof vests swooped into an upper Manhattan park

I love the NY Post and read it everyday, but they never miss an opportunity to inflame the situations.

"Cops in bulletproof vests"?! That's what they wear all the time. They didn't don them to take on the chessers.

This is unusual for the NYPD to get involved in such idiocy. Bloomberg must have given a direct order, or somebody spotted them conceal-carrying cigarettes.

8 posted on 11/18/2010 5:59:00 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Incidents like this are what undermine public confidence in LEO and make the citizenry more inclined to view them as Fascist thugs hiding behind a badge.


9 posted on 11/18/2010 6:01:59 AM PST by thethirddegree
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
They were not ticketed for playing chess-they were ticketed for being in an area reserved for kids. The area is clearly marked that only adults accompanying kids can be in that area. I'm not saying I agree with the ticketing (as opposed to a warning) but to say it was because of them playing chess is silly NYPost hype.

"Another man ticketed that day, Inwood resident and artist Junior "Chiqui" Mendoza, 46, said that the police "should have given us a warning, and not a ticket."

Hmmm, 46 year old male "artist" hanging around in a kids park. I hope he doesn't have some obsession with bananas being placed at the rear or between the legs of kids carton characters.

10 posted on 11/18/2010 6:02:04 AM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: icwhatudo
"Hmmm, 46 year old male "artist" hanging around in a kids park. I hope he doesn't have some obsession with bananas being placed at the rear or between the legs of kids carton characters."


11 posted on 11/18/2010 6:03:41 AM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: icwhatudo

12 posted on 11/18/2010 6:05:16 AM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: icwhatudo
The area is clearly marked that only adults accompanying kids can be in that area.

How long has it been so "clearly marked"? I don't know that park. But I do know others with these stone chess tables. At the ones I know kids are a distinct minority.

ML/NJ

13 posted on 11/18/2010 6:06:44 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Is this the Park & Chess tables featured in various TV shows and commercials?


14 posted on 11/18/2010 6:10:34 AM PST by Deaf Smith
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To: ml/nj

According to the article one of those ticketed saw the signs “months ago” but claims a cop told him it was ok to be there anyway.

Again, not defending the ticketing, just commenting on the hyped headline and “interesting” banana placement on kids cartoon artwork of one of the men ticketed in the kids area.


15 posted on 11/18/2010 6:11:41 AM PST by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the existing Constitution"Obama Adviser)
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To: icwhatudo
“According to the article one of those ticketed saw the signs “months ago” but claims a cop told him it was ok to be there anyway.”

Once enough laws are made; everyone will be a criminal.

16 posted on 11/18/2010 6:14:49 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Vote like Obama is on the ballot)
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To: All

Another reason to NOT live in or near New York. How many kids play chess yet they have chess tables set up. The gate and signs were put up and the park authorities failed to move the tables. So the make something illegal that used to be legal by putting up a sign.

The men should have claimed illegal immigrant status and a parade would have been thrown in their honor to celebrate diversity.


17 posted on 11/18/2010 6:16:25 AM PST by texan75010
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
All men are nothing more than potential rapists and child molesters and must be kept away from women and children at any cost.
18 posted on 11/18/2010 6:18:59 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The people who hate Sarah Palin hate her because they know that her Presidency is inevitable.)
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To: texan75010

The chess tables are concrete.

This is ridiculous but then smoking cars illegally parked in Times Square go unnoticed so the police can get to really important ‘crimes’.


19 posted on 11/18/2010 6:21:12 AM PST by Carley (WE SAW NOVEMBER FROM OUR HOUSE)
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To: Deaf Smith
Probably not. I think most of those TV and movie scenes with chess tables are filmed in small neighborhood parks and playgrounds in Brooklyn or Manhattan.

Inwood Hill Park is actually pretty large for a New York City Park. It's about 200 acres, and covers the northern tip of Manhattan where the Harlem River meets the Hudson River.

I'm not sure what the story is behind this incident, but I've long felt uncomfortable about having working-age adult men hanging out in these places -- regardless of what the reason is.

20 posted on 11/18/2010 6:41:31 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Joe 6-pack

A clever metaphor at 5:54 in the morning. Nice work.


21 posted on 11/18/2010 6:45:30 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Crime must have been reduced to a negligible level in NY for cops to have time for this.


22 posted on 11/18/2010 6:46:58 AM PST by luvbach1 (Stop Barry now. He can't help himself.)
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To: Alberta's Child

“Hey, when I see five weirdos in togas stabbing a guy in broad daylight in plain view of 100 people, I shoot the bastards.” - Frank Drebin


23 posted on 11/18/2010 6:47:28 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I wonder if the playground area was the only place with table and chairs. The park walks are (or were once) lined with benches—not the optimal chess board surface.


24 posted on 11/18/2010 6:50:02 AM PST by Oratam
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To: icwhatudo

Yes, a warning would have been the appropriate handling of the situation, with a ticket issued only if there was any non-compliance. An afterthought: Maybe the chess players were thuggish or gang banger types (readily identifiable to police) whose presence anywhere near the children’s area made them suspect and unwanted.


25 posted on 11/18/2010 6:53:49 AM PST by luvbach1 (Stop Barry now. He can't help himself.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

It’s a ROOK not a CROOK, you idiot!!!

As the coach for my high school’s chess club, I find this infinitely entertaining.


26 posted on 11/18/2010 6:54:23 AM PST by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

There’s a chess game in the Bronx,
Brooklyn’s broken out with Yahtzee
Queens has old Italian men
Engaged in open games of Bocce
They’re playing checkers at Penn Station
A Backgammon Situaion.....

Precinct 34, Where Are You?


27 posted on 11/18/2010 7:01:37 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: icwhatudo
Hmmm. Artist that paints paintings (possibly with sexual innuendos) that would contain cartoon characters that would appeal to children is hanging around in a part of the park designated for children .... Article quotes them as having become friends with the children. hmmm.Too many lights are going off ...
28 posted on 11/18/2010 7:09:07 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: Buckeye McFrog

that was clever!


29 posted on 11/18/2010 7:17:13 AM PST by Nevadan
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To: Alberta's Child

Congrats - you just discovered another subversive societal derangement symptom - Gangs of Chess Playing Pedophiles !

I’ve never heard of a GANG of pedophiles congregating anywhere. By nature and definition it would have to be a solitary, secretive, and disgusting pursuit.

If you took the time to read the article, you would have read that many parents defended the chess playing gentlemen and were pleased that children were being taught chess by these guys.

These gentlemen even asked authorities if they could still play there - since that’s where the chess tables were - and were told to disregard the sign.

Signed - a chess lover


30 posted on 11/18/2010 7:22:13 AM PST by A'elian' nation ( America is Exceptional - the only nation of people who escaped from theirs.)
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To: A'elian' nation
I’ve never heard of a GANG of pedophiles congregating anywhere. By nature and definition it would have to be a solitary, secretive, and disgusting pursuit.

It used to be. No longer.

31 posted on 11/18/2010 7:31:12 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: A'elian' nation
If you took the time to read the article, you would have read that many parents defended the chess playing gentlemen and were pleased that children were being taught chess by these guys.

Did you read that article a few days ago about the AF guy in Germany and how he befriended the Mom's before molesting the kids?

32 posted on 11/18/2010 7:33:01 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: A'elian' nation
If you took the time to read the article, you would have read that many parents defended the chess playing gentlemen and were pleased that children were being taught chess by these guys.

I took the time to read the article and did not see any parents defending them. Are we looking at the same article?

33 posted on 11/18/2010 7:35:42 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: icwhatudo

They were not ticketed for playing chess-they were ticketed for being in an area reserved for kids. The area is clearly marked that only adults accompanying kids can be in that area. I’m not saying I agree with the ticketing (as opposed to a warning) but to say it was because of them playing chess is silly NYPost hype”

Then NY needs to MOVE the PRE-PAINTED tables with the chess / checkers boards on them to another area.

When you put such pre-painted boards in plain view with public money- the public thinks they have a right to USE such items.

This bust by the NY cops is so wrong on so many fronts, it is another joke of how Bloomberg runs the city.

GOD HELP US ALL if this fool decides to buy the Presidency with his millions of dollars.


34 posted on 11/18/2010 8:22:28 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius
Odd number indeed if they were playing chess.

Maybe that odd number is what scared King Bloomburg.

Maybe because of that odd number King Bloomburg thought it couldn't possibly be 6 guys playing chess and 1 watching.

Maybe because of that odd number King Bloomburg thought it was actually 7 guys sitting around plotting to bring down the King and chess was just a cover story.

It's a conspiracy I tell you a conspiracy!

35 posted on 11/18/2010 8:24:04 AM PST by IMR 4350
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To: Buckeye McFrog

< applause >


36 posted on 11/18/2010 8:27:37 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

As we slouch yet even closer to becoming a Fascist State.


37 posted on 11/18/2010 8:32:51 AM PST by dfwgator (Texas Rangers -Thanks for a great season.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

The rule is designed to protect kids from pedophiles. What web have here are cops who lack common sense and who have nothing better to do with their time than roust innocent citizens who play a game of chess.

When playing chess is outlawed, only outlaws will play chess.


38 posted on 11/18/2010 8:41:16 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: A'elian' nation
I dunno . . . Even in Searching for Bobby Fischer, the mother of young Josh Waitzkin was initially very concerned about having her son hang around with all of those seedy older men.

:-P

39 posted on 11/18/2010 8:44:00 AM PST by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Once enough laws are made; everyone will be a criminal.

From my FR Homepage:

“Did you really think we want those laws observed?” said Dr. Ferris. “We want them to be broken. You’d better get it straight that it’s not a bunch of boy scouts you’re up against... We’re after power and we mean it... There’s no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren’t enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What’s there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that’s the system, Mr. Reardon, that’s the game, and once you understand it, you’ll be much easier to deal with.” - Ayn Rand, ‘Atlas Shrugged’ 1957

Rand was a prophet.

40 posted on 11/18/2010 8:46:11 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker
Wow.
That describes red light cameras to a T. Plus the state profits from those “crimes”.

I need to read Rand.

41 posted on 11/18/2010 8:58:35 AM PST by HereInTheHeartland (Vote like Obama is on the ballot)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
Atlas Shrugs is worth the read, even today. But her non-fiction is just as good. Try "Capitalism, The Unknown Ideal".

Best,

L

42 posted on 11/18/2010 9:10:29 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: SeeSac

From the article:
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/kiddie_pawn_shock_KnKyQ0JfMITAIqGawRJf8J

“parents have welcomed him and the other players — and even had their kids take chess lessons from them.”

Come on people, we get a bit too hysterical here at times.
If any of these chess playing men had a record the cops would have sure let us know about it.
And I repeat - Gangs of Pedophiles I have never heard about. It is a non-sequitur


43 posted on 11/18/2010 9:19:39 AM PST by A'elian' nation ( America is Exceptional - the only nation of people who escaped from theirs.)
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To: goldstategop

“When playing chess is outlawed, only outlaws will play chess.”

I like that. Clever

Truth is, I find the whole concept of an area just for kids and parents crazy. It suggests a false sense of security for parents. After all you never know who might be playing chess.

Parents should be with their kids all the time in parks and recreation areas. I play ball with my son instead of just sitting on a bench and watching him wander about.


44 posted on 11/18/2010 9:30:23 AM PST by A'elian' nation ( America is Exceptional - the only nation of people who escaped from theirs.)
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To: SeeSac

That’s because you can’t read.


45 posted on 11/18/2010 9:38:29 AM PST by Maewen
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

There are way too mnay cops getting paid way too much with nothing to do.

“Life on the line” my #$%%%.


46 posted on 11/18/2010 9:45:41 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (I'm not Anti-Obama - I'm Pro-America)
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To: Maewen
That’s because you can’t read.

Since you have interjected here, please post the sentence where the many mom's supported the guys. Thanks.

47 posted on 11/18/2010 9:50:13 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: A'elian' nation
“parents have welcomed him and the other players — and even had their kids take chess lessons from them.”

Mighty convenient excerpting skills noted.

48 posted on 11/18/2010 9:52:29 AM PST by SeeSac
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To: SeeSac

“Mighty convenient excerpting skills noted. “

Go ahead and cower in fear of chess players.


49 posted on 11/18/2010 9:56:07 AM PST by A'elian' nation ( America is Exceptional - the only nation of people who escaped from theirs.)
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To: A'elian' nation

Did you see the paintings this guy did? See #11 and #12 above. The guy is weird.


50 posted on 11/18/2010 9:56:35 AM PST by SeeSac
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