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House GOP blocks bill to extend jobless benefits (YES!)
State-Controlled Associated Press ^ | By Comrade Andrew Taylor

Posted on 11/18/2010 5:44:37 PM PST by USALiberty

WASHINGTON – Republicans in the House have blocked a bill that would have extended jobless benefits for the long-term unemployed beyond the holiday season.

The most recent extension of jobless benefits expires Dec. 1. Two million people will lose benefits averaging $310 a week nationwide by the end of the year.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alreadyposted; deficit; goplandslide; kenyanusurper; unemployment; unemploymentbenefits; welfare
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To: USALiberty

I suspect many of them are unemployable in an Obama economy. We need a restoration of growth so that jobs trickle down to the weakest members of the labor force. Make the Bush tax cuts permanent and extend the unemployment benefits for a fixed period to let the economy grow. Employment will not gain significantly until Obama gives up his socialist agenda. That may not happen until 2012.


101 posted on 11/19/2010 5:24:44 AM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began,)
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To: HarleyD

“His wife works so he tells us it cheaper for him to stay at home and watch the kids then to go to work. Plus he gets paid for staying at home.”

Of course it’s cheaper, especially if you’re getting paid for it (even a pittance).

If he has young children, it COSTS to “watch” them no matter which approach you take. If he wasn’t doing it, then they’d be paying through the nose for day care. It all pretty much evens out, no matter what you do.


102 posted on 11/19/2010 5:55:42 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Gorzaloon

Every time I walk into Lowes there is a huge sign about 5 feet by 6 feet saying they are hiring. There are plenty of jobs, just not the big pay little work jobs that people prefer.


103 posted on 11/19/2010 6:09:22 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: jerry557
This is risky... What you do is not extend during news of job growth or through some type of incentive for businesses to create new jobs (tax cuts). By just doing this outright...it could easily backfire on the GOP and the Dems will have a field day.

You do the right thing and let the chips fall where they may.

104 posted on 11/19/2010 6:15:55 AM PST by evad (Every time a conservative votes, a liberal cries)
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To: USALiberty

The headline is total bull...the GOP can’t block anything in the House...


105 posted on 11/19/2010 6:19:47 AM PST by stefanbatory (Insert witty tagline here)
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To: Rational Thought
I know exactly how bad things are in LIBERAL areas, and the voters had a chance to throw the commie bums out in those areas, and most decided to keep the losers.

On the other hand, there are plenty of jobs in conservative areas of the country. They may not be the union jobs that overpay high school dropouts by about $50,000 a year for doing nothing, but they are jobs that will put food in your mouth until something better comes along.

So I suggest voting with your feet and moving to a conservative state, just remember to leave your liberal voting history behind when you get here, because we don't need any more liberals screwing up our states.

106 posted on 11/19/2010 6:27:26 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: vpintheak
People need to know that they can and should work at McDonalds to support their family if need be. I

People not having a job is not their own fault.

Your a jack, plain and simple.

Mcdonalds doesn't support anyone's family.

We want jobs. Thats what the people want. Not Mcdonalds.

107 posted on 11/19/2010 6:59:52 AM PST by 08bil98z24 (Say NO to the WOD ------>>> NObama ------>>> Equal Opportunity Politician Basher)
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To: USALiberty

You honestly think there are plenty of jobs out there? I have no problem doing away with unemployment if jobs are created.

To say because of unemployment NO jobs are being created is just plain stupid.

Have you been eating paint chips?

We are still losing jobs. This is the fault of the economy, not the people.


108 posted on 11/19/2010 7:02:47 AM PST by 08bil98z24 (Say NO to the WOD ------>>> NObama ------>>> Equal Opportunity Politician Basher)
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To: cake_crumb; All
You are wrong.In fact , ALL,100% of Senate Republicans voted against the democrats’ Government Healthcare and the Dream act and other socialist bills from the democrats/Marxists. LOOK IT UP. McConnell has been almost perfect. Yet puppets of the liberal media still bash him and Republicans.

See, the liberal media bashes Republicans and people don't even know the votes or ANYTHING.

Case in point look at all the people who vote for democrats/socialism which is voting for the U.S.’s demise and thus their own demise

109 posted on 11/19/2010 7:03:25 AM PST by Democrat_media (Why is no government creating a product we can hold in our hands like a cell phone..?)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Every time I walk into Lowes there is a huge sign about 5 feet by 6 feet saying they are hiring. There are plenty of jobs, just not the big pay little work jobs that people prefer.

Texas is doing pretty well compared to other states. A lot of home improvement and building supply places are dying up here, with some of the local places downright scared, with too many empty parking spaces.

Granted, the big pay for little work jobs are gone and not coming back. And most of them were just paper-shuffling b*llsh*t, anyway.

110 posted on 11/19/2010 7:04:40 AM PST by Gorzaloon ("Mother...My Couric itches.")
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To: Revolting cat!
that’s all right to the still employed “compassionate conservatives” of Free Republic.

It's a proven fact that half of all people in the world are idiots ... the same is true at Free Republic ...

Remember this: if the Republicans would listen to some posters here on FR all the time, they would be a minority party FOREVER.

The Republicans have been elected to fix the economy, if this isn't accomplished they will be voted out next election.

111 posted on 11/19/2010 7:08:05 AM PST by 08bil98z24 (Say NO to the WOD ------>>> NObama ------>>> Equal Opportunity Politician Basher)
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To: April Lexington

I work at a large software company in Redmond, WA where we have 4 - 5 thousand job openings at any given time. Problem is we can’t find the people with the experience, skills and education needed to fill them.


112 posted on 11/19/2010 7:09:36 AM PST by ShandaLear (The price of Obamacare? 30 pieces of silver.)
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To: spiltmilk
I have been out of work since late May.

So, rake leaves, mow lawns, work at McDonald's. You cannot expect society to pick up the tab for your personal failures. This is a free-market-loving community. Work within that context. NO SOCIALISM!
113 posted on 11/19/2010 7:11:18 AM PST by USALiberty
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Your full of it, as there are practically NO jobs, not even crap jobs.

One sign says now hiring, how many posistions? 1? 2? The millions of jobs that people are out of?

That is why the Democrats lost the election, no jobs. To quote the idiot Carville, “It’s about the economy” stupid.


114 posted on 11/19/2010 7:11:18 AM PST by 08bil98z24 (Say NO to the WOD ------>>> NObama ------>>> Equal Opportunity Politician Basher)
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To: 08bil98z24
The Republicans have been elected to fix the economy . . .

Government cannot 'fix' the economy. They can only fix the government's drain on the economy. The Republicans have been elected to fix government - not the economy. One major task will be to get the government the hell out of the way of entrepreneurs and wealth-creators.

115 posted on 11/19/2010 7:12:10 AM PST by Hoodat ( Don't touch my junk, Bro !)
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To: Fishtalk
he problem is, well I dunno how many people are doing this.

Yes, everybody that is on unemployment has a second unreported job. There are NO jobs, hence why the Republicans just were reelected. Do you follow the news?

Honestly? If you believe that, I got a bridge for sale at a good price in Brooklyn.

116 posted on 11/19/2010 7:14:41 AM PST by 08bil98z24 (Say NO to the WOD ------>>> NObama ------>>> Equal Opportunity Politician Basher)
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To: sf4dubya; All

I’ll stay away from Nevada.Nevada, that shows what democrats and their created underclass of illegals and corrupt union thugs will do to state. Unbelievable they managed to get Reid elected. I know democrats cheated but still anyone who would vote for this democrat Reid has got to have the intelligence of a vegetable.


117 posted on 11/19/2010 7:16:44 AM PST by Democrat_media (Why is no government creating a product we can hold in our hands like a cell phone..?)
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To: USALiberty
You cannot expect society to pick up the tab for your personal failures.

Personal failures for losing a job during an economic downturn? Are you stupid? Ignorant?

Do us all a favor and pound sand.

118 posted on 11/19/2010 7:18:04 AM PST by 08bil98z24 (Say NO to the WOD ------>>> NObama ------>>> Equal Opportunity Politician Basher)
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To: Labyrinthos
Good post.

My argument remains that unemployment benefits, as distasteful as they may be, are required in this economy for as long as it takes. Not only does it keep millions of people from starving, I strongly suspect that terminating benefits (right now) will effect everyone, as a major stimulus to the entire economy will be gone.

I'm not saying that unemployment benefits should be extended for ever, just until the economy recovers, which contrary to the MSM beliefs, hasn't happened.

Government has created a huge mess. Through their over regulation and anti-capitalist policies, they have extended a recession which would have healed itself by now, and put us in a depression.

The criticisms of those who blame the victims here are misguided and should be instead aimed at the cause. For if the Government stays on this course, instead of 1 in 5 being unemployed, we could be looking at 1 in 2.

119 posted on 11/19/2010 7:23:56 AM PST by Rational Thought
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To: 08bil98z24
When you get hungry enough you will be amazed at how many jobs you will suddenly “find”

My experience over my lifetime has shown when people are receiving unemployment either from the government or in the form of a severance package, that they stay unemployed as long as the money they are receiving keeps coming in.

I remember a family member who got laid off from a technology company years ago. He swung by the house to tell us he had lost his job, we expressed concern... but he said no big deal he had 2 YEARS to find another job before his severance pay ran out. As soon as he left, I turned to my wife and said “I will bet you dollars to donuts he doesn't get another job for a least 2 years” and ....

I was right.

He lived off that severance for exactly 2 years, and then SUDDENLY found a job! shocking!

lol

You see, conservatives see that world how is actually is, not how we would LIKE it to be. And I know human nature, and knowing human nature... I know that most people are LAZY. Knowing that most people are lazy, it becomes quite easy to predict their behavior. If you provide for someones every NEED for X amount of time, they will sit on their lazy butts until X amount of time is up.

It's that simple.

120 posted on 11/19/2010 7:29:09 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Sure, there are a few tiny jobs out there ... but being someone who has always worked “crap” jobs, the crap jobs are filled.

For every position at Mcdonalds, there is 80 applications.

And that is a problem ... and if you can’t see that that is a problem ...

People losing their jobs because of the economic downturn was NOT their own fault ... and I dare someone to tell me that otherwise.

The economic downturn was caused by governments bad policies ... housing bubble followed by stupid business practices from major corporations and reward by the government... plain and simple.


121 posted on 11/19/2010 7:40:31 AM PST by 08bil98z24 (Say NO to the WOD ------>>> NObama ------>>> Equal Opportunity Politician Basher)
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To: Rational Thought
The criticisms of those who blame the victims here are misguided and should be instead aimed at the cause.

Those who blame the victims are not just misguided, but also ignorant of reason.

122 posted on 11/19/2010 7:42:42 AM PST by 08bil98z24 (Say NO to the WOD ------>>> NObama ------>>> Equal Opportunity Politician Basher)
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To: ShandaLear; All

What company is that , Microsoft?


123 posted on 11/19/2010 7:50:05 AM PST by Democrat_media (Why is no government creating a product we can hold in our hands like a cell phone..?)
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To: 08bil98z24
I contend that it is the peoples fault, the majority of the people who have voted for over 100 years to destroy capitalism in this country. They wanted to shrink they gap between the wealthy and the poor... well it's shrinking, now everyone is poorer... and guess what? the people that had nothing before, still have nothing. But that's ok because now everything is “fairer”.

Now they are reaping what they have sowed.

Does that mean EVERYONE deserves this? no. But life isn't fair. If you live in a liberal state, I suggest you vote with your feet.

124 posted on 11/19/2010 7:51:56 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: spiltmilk; All
spiltmilk,I'm sorry for what you are going through.

If you want to freepmail me also then I Know I can help, with ideas only though.And no I don't charge for advice or helping people.

I know most people don't like to take advice but I only put suggestions out there and people can take some or none at all.

I think I Have solved a lot of problems including other people's problems.For example this is how I would save America:

1. Deport all illegals and build a fence.
2. Abolish all government agencies as in the EPA, TSA, FEC, FCC,FDA,IRS ,HUD,HHS, government schools,etc. This can be done by making all laws expire after 3 years. So all laws , laws that mandate agencies, spending , and make it easy for unions will have to be created again every 3 years.So only the laws the people really want are kept.
3. Deal with China and other countries manipulating their currency.
4. Repeal every law as in 2 above, Repeal every law, Amendment etc. to 1890. Then America was growing faster than all other countries,had a limited government , and manufactored more than all other countries put together and we did it all without the technology we have now and with only 1/4 the population.

I think I'm smarter than anyone. Maybe I'm delusional who knows LOL. But I haven't heard anyone including any politician talk about all these solutions together.

P.S. I'm working on becoming a billionaire too. I don't have any money yet but if I hit it big , then I would give you and the other Freepers on this thread a million $ and to freerepublic and other conservative sites. I'd be the opposite of Soros LOL. Well we can all dream can't we?

Anyway , good luck to you and all those other Freepers here who are looking for a job. I am praying for you all and have you all in my thoughts.

125 posted on 11/19/2010 7:59:01 AM PST by Democrat_media (Why is no government creating a product we can hold in our hands like a cell phone..?)
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To: USALiberty

You can only pay people just so long to NOT WORK before you run out of other peoples money.


126 posted on 11/19/2010 8:04:45 AM PST by Grunthor (Touch my junk and Ill knock you the f**k out)
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To: USALiberty
You cannot expect society to pick up the tab for your personal failures

You've spoken up for the person you are here better than I ever could. Thank you for being honest. I still would not wish my circumstances on you. Good luck.

127 posted on 11/19/2010 8:12:11 AM PST by spiltmilk
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To: Grunthor
You can only pay people just so long to NOT WORK before you run out of other peoples money.

I have paid multiples in federal tax withholdings this year vs. what money I'm eligible for before losing my job. I'm not yet into federal extensions. I will be in December. Is that "my" money coming back to me, or other's people's?

128 posted on 11/19/2010 8:20:26 AM PST by spiltmilk
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To: 08bil98z24

Well good morning to you too.

lookit, everybody I know on unemployment, which is about five people in my surround, has another source of income, OFF the books. Most times it’s not full time type of jobs, helping on a construction project, even walking dogs.

The sorts of jobs that they probably wouldn’t do for fatigue if they were working instead of collecting a check, usually part time type of things.

But again, I said it was anecdotal stuff and I stressed I didn’t have statistics. But by me, these types of things would likely be done by a small business or even teenagers. Point being, it all adds to the general malaise of the economy.

Instead of being polite, mock me, ask me if I knew about recent elections, make me look stupid.

It makes you look so intelligent.


129 posted on 11/19/2010 8:38:02 AM PST by Fishtalk (Dance like nobody's watching; Sing like nobody's listening; Blog like nobody's reading.)
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To: spiltmilk

I’d have to know the exact dollar amount you paid in and exactly how long you have been unemployed. My brother is a 99 weeker. He was a pizza delivery boy....at 37 y/o.

You think he just MIGHT have started dipping into others’ pockets by now?


130 posted on 11/19/2010 8:39:00 AM PST by Grunthor (Touch my junk and Ill knock you the f**k out)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
You see, conservatives see that world how is actually is, not how we would LIKE it to be. And I know human nature, and knowing human nature... I know that most people are LAZY. Knowing that most people are lazy, it becomes quite easy to predict their behavior. If you provide for someones every NEED for X amount of time, they will sit on their lazy butts until X amount of time is up. It's that simple.

Is there any way you could write a book on all of this? Or teach a seminar on how simple it is? Funny how you talk about people seeing the world how they would LIKE it to be and then go on and paint millions of unemployed with a broad brush based on one example. See where I'm going here?

131 posted on 11/19/2010 8:42:19 AM PST by spiltmilk
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To: Redcloak

In other words, the rats are licking their wounds and made this a “throw-away” to criticize GOP later. That’s a good sign. They aren’t feeling particularly united right now. Time for some tough love.


132 posted on 11/19/2010 8:54:20 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Economic reform? Great. But without education reform -- history will repeat itself.)
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To: Grunthor

I don’t know your brother and thus am unaware of what level of taxes he might have paid. Perhaps he has exceed his contribution. I’ll cover your end ok? I pay about $63 a week in withholding on my own unemployment. I’ll pay his check, you pay for the Stimulus Highway signs, ok? Is that fair? As for me, we’re talking deep 2011 before I pass the contribution line. So that’s two people’s hands out of your pocket due to unemployment and I hope that will let you sleep better at night.


133 posted on 11/19/2010 8:55:43 AM PST by spiltmilk
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To: Quix

This is one of those times it pays to be a fatalist.

Sad that people need negative pressure to seek work, but like Jesus said, “There will always be the poor.” Go against scripture, and you are doomed to fail. Extended unemployment will never be a good idea. In that respect, I’m a fatalist, same as when Jesus said there would be wars and rumors of wars. The only peace that last for 1000 years is when He sits on the throne. FRegards ....


134 posted on 11/19/2010 8:56:15 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Economic reform? Great. But without education reform -- history will repeat itself.)
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To: stocksthatgoup
A number of Dems voted NO as well.

Well, it is two whole years until they have to buy votes again....with our money.

135 posted on 11/19/2010 8:59:41 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't skipper a boat, Can't drive, Can't ski, Can't fly. But they KNOW what's best!)
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To: spiltmilk

You REALLY have it all wrong, but I understand your feelings. You aren’t dragging the economy down, but what about the guys who game the system? They ARE. People plan to get unemployment. The more it’s expanded, the more some people will game it. To pay you, how many jerks do tax payers have to bribe at the same time?


136 posted on 11/19/2010 9:01:20 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Economic reform? Great. But without education reform -- history will repeat itself.)
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To: ari-freedom
and to think all this time I thought jobs come from business, not from unemployed people. Guess what? Businesses aren’t hiring! Fix THAT problem and then the UI extension isn’t an issue.

I know this is anecdotal, but I work with someone who is receiving unemployment benefits. They closed the hospital she was working at and now she works part-time. As long as she doesn't work over a certain number of hours she still gets the benefits. Naturally, she doesn't want to work too many hours and will often give away shifts to manage it. I can't help but think this happens elsewhere.

Point being, she is perfectly able to work more hours, but why should she when she can get free cash courtesy of her co-workers.

137 posted on 11/19/2010 9:16:51 AM PST by Shethink13
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
No question there are. There was one of the 30 or so who were laid off in my place who were happy about it. I have a friend in a union who has a down season every year and collects for weeks in the summer time. No doubt there are plenty who are fraudulently collecting and making no effort. If it bothers you that much, drop a dime. Call your local office and they will open an investigation. People are required to demonstrate effort in getting back to work. Now, it's a completely ridiculous burden of proof, but other than that, I don't know the course of action to suggest to you.

What I do know is my own experience and I see way too much misinformation and ridiculous assumptions from people here and I am shocked by it. I use this site as a resource for all news topics because I trust that I will read honest, informed discussion that is censored out from the regular news media. I will continue to do so, but I can tell you from my experience in this thread, there are a lot of hollering, unaware people are here as well.

138 posted on 11/19/2010 9:40:37 AM PST by spiltmilk
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To: 08bil98z24

I’m a jack? I think you’ve bought into the government lie hoss.
Everyone wants jobs, DUH! But when push comes to shove a man provides for his family.

Jack on that.


139 posted on 11/19/2010 9:59:59 AM PST by vpintheak (Obama sez I'm an enemy and I will be punished. My Savior has overcome the world.)
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To: USALiberty

I heard it’s up to 99 weeks now with only 52 weeks in a year.


140 posted on 11/19/2010 10:04:02 AM PST by newzjunkey
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To: PGR88

It’s true, I know people who could get jobs at any time but choose to stay on the dole.


141 posted on 11/19/2010 10:29:21 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: demshateGod
It’s true, I know people who could get jobs at any time but choose to stay on the dole.

I just don't understand this economy, and I think Obama understands it even less. I have a friend who is commercial/industrial electrical contractor. He has been looking for employees for the last 8-10 months, and says he will take anyone who is breathing at this point - forget about finding anyone with good experience. His problem - few people want to be a journeyman and spend what could be years learning a trade, no one wants "low," but reasonable pay (compared to their utter lack of skills), and no one wants to show up on time to work.

142 posted on 11/19/2010 10:37:08 AM PST by PGR88
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To: Redcloak

Now the dems have their headline. Then again, it’s always been about politics...on both sides. So the dems may let them expired just so they can say “We told you so.”


143 posted on 11/19/2010 10:57:00 AM PST by Terry Mross
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To: vpintheak
I think you’ve bought into the government lie hoss. Everyone wants jobs, DUH! But when push comes to shove a man provides for his family.

Jack on that.

I'm buying into the governments lies?

Your more on page with NObama than I am ... after all ... according to the government: month after month of job loss, with minimum job creation = the unemployment rate staying the same and the economy is recovering ... this is right there with what you say: Plenty of jobs out there most unfilled by choice ... everything is roses.

Funny.

We interrupt your dream for this return to reality.

The economy sucks, if it did NOT, we would not have been successful in this election. End of Story.

BTW - check this out, Just in time for the holidays - awesome electronic version of the fun board game - http://www.youdontknowjack.com

144 posted on 11/19/2010 11:06:20 AM PST by 08bil98z24 (Say NO to the WOD ------>>> NObama ------>>> Equal Opportunity Politician Basher)
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To: USALiberty
You cannot expect society to pick up the tab for your personal failures.

What a rude and arrogant comment. Much like this sickening thread. Some day this bad karma you are spreading around will come back on you. Maybe you will get your own dose of smug condescension thrown back in your face.

145 posted on 11/19/2010 11:06:32 AM PST by txlurker
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To: Fishtalk
lookit, everybody I know on unemployment, which is about five people in my surround,

That is definitely everybody on unemployment. sigh.

146 posted on 11/19/2010 11:08:22 AM PST by 08bil98z24 (Say NO to the WOD ------>>> NObama ------>>> Equal Opportunity Politician Basher)
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To: demshateGod
It’s true, I know people who could get jobs at any time but choose to stay on the dole.

Jumping on the bandwagon too huh?

Most people out of work are not out of work by choice ... some may very well be ... but others are not out by choice. To blame anyone for being out of work as being their own fault is completely stupid and ignorant.

Most people who lost their jobs because of the economic downturn were tax payers and some still are tax payers.

147 posted on 11/19/2010 11:17:02 AM PST by 08bil98z24 (Say NO to the WOD ------>>> NObama ------>>> Equal Opportunity Politician Basher)
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To: spiltmilk
will continue to do so, but I can tell you from my experience in this thread, there are a lot of hollering, unaware people are here as well.

Half of everyone you meet in the world is an idiot, the same is true for an internet forum.

148 posted on 11/19/2010 11:19:12 AM PST by 08bil98z24 (Say NO to the WOD ------>>> NObama ------>>> Equal Opportunity Politician Basher)
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To: USALiberty

I thought they would approve it if unspent stimulus money was used? I don’t think it is an outright block. Which they can’t even do right now anyway since the Dems still control both the house and Senate until the end of the year.


149 posted on 11/19/2010 11:23:54 AM PST by pas
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To: TexasFreeper2009

People in 1910 were not rich, nor was this country better off. End of Story.

I contend that the economic downturn is the fault of the government. Hands down.

I can play the blame the people game. Previous generations of Americans are to blame for creating the bad government that we have now. The same people have been making bad decisions, electing bad politicians, and doing anything else in their power to create horrible situations for a long time now.

The stupid liberal mindset of today’s generations ... you got it ... the faults of Previous generations of Americans... Who you ask? Every single person of every previous generation regardless of political affiliation as ultimately they can be directly held at fault for today’s problems.

Ha - if I had my way ... no one over 40 would be allowed to make a single decision ever again. Maybe we would get somewhere then.


150 posted on 11/19/2010 11:30:04 AM PST by 08bil98z24 (Say NO to the WOD ------>>> NObama ------>>> Equal Opportunity Politician Basher)
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