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ACLU Wants to Prosecute President Bush for "Torture"
Townhall.com ^ | November 19, 2010 | Robert Knight

Posted on 11/19/2010 5:49:35 AM PST by Kaslin

The campaign to criminalize America’s response to the 9/11 terrorist attacks continues apace.

The ACLU is calling on the Justice Department to investigate George W. Bush over his just-released memoir Decision Points, in which the former president says he ordered al-Qaeda suspects waterboarded in the wake of the 9/11 attacks.

The Nov. 11, 2010 letter, signed by ACLU Executive Director Anthony D. Romero, states that waterboarding is “torture” and notes that Bush says it was used on terror suspects Abu Zubaydah and self-confessed 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

Elsewhere, the ACLU is urging Americans to lobby the Justice Department to investigate top Bush Administration officials. On its accountability for torture website, the ACLU says:

“Last year, the Justice Department initiated a criminal investigation into the Bush administration’s torture program, but it focuses only on ‘rogue’ interrogators who disobeyed orders. That investigation is far too narrow. … the criminal investigation must be expanded to reach not only the interrogators but the senior officials who authorized torture….”

In bold type, the site calls on Americans to:

“Ask the Attorney General to expand the scope of the Justice Department's criminal investigation of the torture program to include not just the interrogators who used torture, but the senior Bush administration officials who authorized and facilitated it.”

In 2009, Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee held a hearing in which they grilled former Justice Department attorney John Yoo over four memos he wrote about the legal limits of interrogation techniques.

In a June 17, 2009 Washington Times column, American Civil Rights Union General Counsel Peter Ferrara defended the memos:

“At the American Civil Rights Union (ACRU), a conservative alternative to the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), we have reviewed the four challenged legal memos. They add up to 124 single-spaced pages of careful legal reasoning reviewing all applicable statutes, treaties, cases and word definitions and applying that law to a thorough discussion of the CIA's enhanced interrogation techniques used under President Bush.

“We found that those memos involve a thorough, well-reasoned, praiseworthy legal effort and analysis. We agree that their conclusions as to the legality of waterboarding and the other CIA enhanced interrogation techniques are correct under applicable law, and we are prepared to debate that point in any forum. A complete report containing our analysis is on our website, The Interrogation Memos.

“… The most controversial of these techniques, waterboarding, was used on just three of the highest-level detainees, all accused senior terrorist leaders involved in major attacks on Americans and U.S. targets and had information regarding planned future attacks. … It resulted in information that stopped at least two planned terrorist attacks on American soil that would have killed thousands of Americans.”

In a recent interview with NBC’s Today Show host Matt Lauer excerpted on al-JazeeraEnglish, Mr. Bush defended his actions:

“One of the high value al-Qaeda operatives was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. And they said, ‘he’s got information.’ And I said, ‘Find out what he knows.’ And so I said to our team, ‘Are the techniques legal?’ and a legal team says, ‘yes they are.’ And I said, “Use ’em.”

Following a statement by an unnamed British legal expert who defines waterboarding as torture, al-JazeeraEnglish correspondent Laurence Lee says: “Bush, though, seems unrepentant as ever.”

Bush: “I will tell you this. Using those techniques saved lives. My job was to protect America. And I did.”

Given the absence of any major terror incident in the United States in the seven years of the Bush Administration following 9/11, it would be hard even for the ACLU to argue with that.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aclu; antiamerican; bush; democrats; doj; dojisajoke; holder; liberalfascism; obama; progressives; soros; spookydude
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1 posted on 11/19/2010 5:49:37 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Right after we get to the case where the ACLU is prosecuted for treason.


2 posted on 11/19/2010 5:50:34 AM PST by a fool in paradise (The establishment clause isn't just against my OWN government establishing state religion in America)
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To: Kaslin

...time to defund the ACLU also.........


3 posted on 11/19/2010 5:50:58 AM PST by Doogle ((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Kaslin

I want to tort the ACLU.............


4 posted on 11/19/2010 5:51:17 AM PST by Red Badger (The House finally fell on Nancy Pelosi..........)
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To: Kaslin

Hmmm

If the TSA next pulls our panties over our heads, can we get Manpolitano prosecuted for torture?


5 posted on 11/19/2010 5:51:57 AM PST by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: Kaslin

That he kept this great country save after 9/11 means obviously nothing to the American Communist Liars Union


6 posted on 11/19/2010 5:52:57 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Perhaps Holder would give him a civilian trial.


7 posted on 11/19/2010 5:53:12 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: a fool in paradise

They need to be the subject of investigation and perhaps even some “lawfare”.

Perhaps someone needs to step up a campaign against them in the media, exposing their communist origins and their record of only attacking traditional values and always siding against America.


8 posted on 11/19/2010 5:54:01 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: a fool in paradise
Another organization funded and influenced by Soros
9 posted on 11/19/2010 5:54:29 AM PST by opentalk
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To: Kaslin

ACLU = Antiamerican Communist Libertine Union.


10 posted on 11/19/2010 5:56:00 AM PST by wendy1946
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To: Doogle

“...time to defund the ACLU also.........”

It’s long PAST time to do so!!!


11 posted on 11/19/2010 5:56:11 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: Kaslin

Where was the ACLU when Holder dismissed the Philly black panther case when voters were intimidated???

Where is the ACLU in defending a hiding Molly Morris who sponsored the draw Mohamed day in Seattle???

Where is the ACLU when ObamaCare demands we all buy health insurance whether we want to or not???


12 posted on 11/19/2010 5:56:24 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: Kaslin

“ACLU Wants to Prosecute President Bush for ‘Torture’”

Who listens when scu&bags speak?

Just asking.


13 posted on 11/19/2010 5:56:24 AM PST by ripley
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To: Kaslin

states that waterboarding is “torture”

I’d like to see the ACLU try this...the backlash would be a tidal wave.


14 posted on 11/19/2010 5:58:48 AM PST by y6162
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To: MrB

Don’t expect the LSM to do this


15 posted on 11/19/2010 6:02:42 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Le Chien Rouge

And when have they ever defended the right to bear arms?


16 posted on 11/19/2010 6:03:45 AM PST by fruser1
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To: Kaslin

I stand with George W. Bush, the last great president of the USA,

As we do not currently have a president.


17 posted on 11/19/2010 6:05:03 AM PST by chris37
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To: ripley
Eric Holder could be listening. The wording of the ACLU statement implies that the Justice Department is still considering going after the lower-level people (we haven't heard much about that lately). It may all boil down to whether Obama thinks it helps him more with his base to go after Bush with a prosecution, or hurts him more with other Americans. Everything is political with this team.

Has the ACLU said anything about the airport screenings and gropings controversy?

18 posted on 11/19/2010 6:09:24 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: chris37
I stand with George W. Bush, the last great president of the USA,

and the best of this century

19 posted on 11/19/2010 6:11:23 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin
'Criminally Negligent Manslaughter'

There are numerous cases in which an omission to act or a failure to perform a duty constitutes criminally negligent manslaughter. The existence of a duty is essential. Since the law does not recognize that an ordinary person has a duty to aid or rescue another in distress, an ensuing death from failure to act would not be manslaughter. On the other hand, an omission in which one has a duty, such as the failure of a lifeguard to attempt to save a drowning person, might constitute the offense.

Or for failing in his DUTY to secure the border and/or enforce immigration laws, resulting in numerous crimes during his term as President. Include Chertoff, Obama, and Napolitano.

20 posted on 11/19/2010 6:13:13 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Kaslin

“ACLU Wants to Prosecute President Bush for “Torture””

Prosecute the ACLU for “torturing” us with their BS.


21 posted on 11/19/2010 6:14:33 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Kaslin

Perhaps ACLU Executive Director Anthony D. Romero would re-think his actions if he were to see the films of Americans being decapitated by these muslim animals.


22 posted on 11/19/2010 6:15:11 AM PST by Cobra64
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To: Kaslin

An American Citizen to the ACLU PISS OFF ASSWIPES.
Go get buggered by a communist or a muslim..


23 posted on 11/19/2010 6:15:47 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA
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To: Kaslin

Can we put a bounty on them?

Pray for America


24 posted on 11/19/2010 6:17:41 AM PST by bray (A November to Remember)
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To: y6162

Oooooh, a letter from the ACLU and I have a fish that needs wrapping!


25 posted on 11/19/2010 6:19:34 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Kaslin
Uhhhh.../palm.../forehead

Gee, you'd think an organization like the ACLU would be more focusing on prosecuting 'Janet Incompitano' and her private army of closet perverts/molesters (TSA) who are currently getting their jollies feeling up little children and geriatric nuns. But nooooo, we got to GET BUSH, GET BUSH, GET BUSH, because he authorized waterboarding on three TERRORISTS, which subsequently actually prevented attacks that could have cost thousands of American lives.

26 posted on 11/19/2010 6:39:08 AM PST by LoneStarGI (Vegetarian: Old Indian word for "BAD HUNTER.")
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To: Kaslin

Who did Bush torture?


27 posted on 11/19/2010 6:39:17 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Kaslin
Try it commies... McCarthy II is coming... and you are going to be investigated... every last one of you... including the traitor bob commie barr.

LLS

28 posted on 11/19/2010 6:43:03 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: AppyPappy

I wanna know too


29 posted on 11/19/2010 6:49:51 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: AppyPappy

I really hope they try to do it.


30 posted on 11/19/2010 6:50:13 AM PST by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: Kaslin

Try it, ACLU, and we’ll come down on you like a granite sledgehammer.


31 posted on 11/19/2010 6:52:31 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Scratch a “progressive” and a fascist bleeds)
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To: a fool in paradise
Right after we get to the case where the ACLU is prosecuted for treason.

I totally agree.

32 posted on 11/19/2010 6:53:56 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: DTogo
Oh yeah? What about the arrogant pos, who currently resides at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue? He stopped the building of the border wall that was started under President Bush. He refuses to send more additional National guard troops to the borders that the border states has requested. And he never bothers to go to the border to see the situation for himself.

Go see a shrink that can help you with your BDS. You sure need help

33 posted on 11/19/2010 6:57:48 AM PST by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

Yeah and some idiot overseas called for his arrest.


34 posted on 11/19/2010 7:03:57 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Kaslin

FUACLU!


35 posted on 11/19/2010 7:05:03 AM PST by ScottinVA (The West needs to act NOW to aggressively treat its metastasizing islaminoma!)
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To: Doogle

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1328251/The-waterboarding-backlash-Bush-face-arrest-sanctioning-torture.html


36 posted on 11/19/2010 7:06:14 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: wendy1946
Anti-Christ Lawyers' Union
37 posted on 11/19/2010 7:06:26 AM PST by Hoodat ( Don't touch my junk, Bro !)
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To: Hoodat

As someone once said: Bring it on!


38 posted on 11/19/2010 7:17:24 AM PST by uscga77
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To: Kaslin

Perhaps it would be better to get these ACLU types in the dockate and find out why they prefer defending terrorists against our country.


39 posted on 11/19/2010 7:19:36 AM PST by hgro (Jerry Riversdun)
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To: Kaslin

Here’s a novel idea, how about they prosecute Bozo for the torture he’s put us through, the last 2 years!


40 posted on 11/19/2010 7:21:16 AM PST by blondee123 (REPEAL OBAMACARE, NO NEW TAXES, NO NEW SPENDING!)
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To: Kaslin
HEY!.....ACLU!
41 posted on 11/19/2010 7:22:10 AM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: Kaslin

Go laud W’s border security and immigration enforcement policies to the numerous victims of illegal alien crime.


42 posted on 11/19/2010 7:27:06 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: fruser1

The ACLU believes all bears should have arms.


43 posted on 11/19/2010 7:29:35 AM PST by 2dollarbill
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To: Kaslin

Finally! The ACLU wants to prosecute somebody for the events resulting from 9/11!![sarcasmoff]


44 posted on 11/19/2010 7:38:56 AM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: Kaslin

This is so stupid and ridiculous. We are at war with al-Qaeda. When Obama orders a strike on al-Qaeda with an anti-tank missile fired from a drone, what does the ACLU think that missile does to the people it hits? It tears them apart and burns them up. It’s severe torture...it’s war. Water-boarding is child’s play compared to what a drone missile strike does to the people it hits. When are the ACLU and the other liberal groups going to understand that we’re in a nasty little war with al-Qaeda and this is a case of either kill or be killed? The ACLU is so silly and so obviously partisan and biased against the Bush Administration. Why does anyone donate money to that stupid group?


45 posted on 11/19/2010 7:43:56 AM PST by socialism_stinX (He didn't invent fresh-brewed coffee, but he perfected the art of sipping it during tennis warm-up.)
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To: Verginius Rufus

“It may all boil down to whether Obama thinks it helps him more with his base...”

Absolutely terrifying that he has such a base.

It seems that the bounds of pschosis have become the halls of the U.S. Government.

IMHO


46 posted on 11/19/2010 7:49:23 AM PST by ripley
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To: y6162
I’d like to see the ACLU try this...the backlash would be a tidal wave.

Which makes me think that the inclusion of that comment was a deliberate provocation by Bush to force Obama into a rock/hardplace situation with his base.

NO President is going to support, in any way shape or form, the prosecution of a former President for official acts taken while in office. Why not? Because it opens up a whole legal can of worms that could then be used against THEM once they leave office.

So, if the ACLU gets its way and this think starts gaining traction, Obama will have to side with Bush just to make sure that HE (Obama) is protected post-presidency. That's going to piss an already agitated Dem base off even more.
47 posted on 11/19/2010 7:50:13 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: Kaslin
BDS is surely alive and well with the libtard mentally challenged left.
48 posted on 11/19/2010 8:11:16 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Kaslin
American Civil Liberties Union seems to always be more concerned about foreigner's civil liberties than American's civil liberties.
49 posted on 11/19/2010 8:20:18 AM PST by crosshairs (The word for actor in Greek is hypocrite (its true).)
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To: Kaslin

Oh oh...You’re going to get it now! You’ve just ruined the illusion that Bush is guilty of not doing anything about the border! ;*)
Now the Bush-bashers are going to have to resort to the other gripes they have about him, that they usually unload on us! eeekkkk...


50 posted on 11/19/2010 9:41:46 AM PST by dsutah
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